We got a lot of plot progress in the previous months. Though it was a lot of fun, a lot of misinformation spread intentionally and unintentionally by anons. I mostly blame a certain slavic posters, Imperialfags, and fucking Arch Hammer for this.
So I decided to start this thread to straighten up the record once and for all.
First misinformation that's being spread around is that Fenris was destroyed. I am glad to tell you that it isn't true. Fenris is wounded but unbroken. the World Spirit begins the process of slowly purging the corruption from its soil. Its tribes live on but they suffer through corruption from within and without. The seed that Magnus planted in the people of Fenris may one day bear terrible fruit but for now it doesn't matter. The Wolf Time is near.
Kayden Lewis
After the whole thing ends, the Wolves assemble their grand fleet and head to Cadia hoping they get their in time to to stop Abaddon from wrecking it.
Daniel Wright
The High Lords note the danger the Imperium is in with the emergence of the traitor Primarchs and they unleash the Sisters of Silence.
They have the power to "unmake a god". We have seen Sisters threatening to perma-kill daemons before. Obviously, this is a hint that one of the Traitor Primarchs is going to die at their hands. Which of the Daemon Primarch gonna get it from the Sisters? I hope it's Lorgar. He is pointless with Be'lakor around.
Aaron Watson
>and they unleash the Sisters of Silence. On genestealers
Thomas Price
Magnus was banished from Fenris but it turns out that Fenris's destruction was his real goal. He used the death of one of the Fenris systerm's world and its inhabitants and the energies he robbed from the World Spirit Wolf in a ritual that teleported his daemon world into real space. This burst the walls of reality and caused a permanent rift.
Now the Planet of Sorcerers and the Silver Towers are free to travel through the galaxy and cause whatever mayhem Magnus's wishes. He hints at another go at the poorly defended Fenris or perhaps he wants to target somewhere else? Only time will tell.
That's all for the Fenris Saga. Should I go with Traitor's Hate/Angel Blade or just skip to Fall of Cadia?
Logan Lee
>After the whole thing ends, the Wolves assemble their grand fleet and head to Cadia
I haven't actually read Fall of Cadia; does this get any mention in that book, or are they going to turn up and find the planet's already been lost?
Ryder Price
I'd like to hear it all, please.
Cooper Myers
Wulfen and Iron Wolf company take part in FoC. They play a part in the fleet fight against the Blackstone Fortress as well the last ground fight.
Though, the rest of the Space Wolves are not seen or mentioned in the story which is odd considering that the 7th ED woof codex said Logan arrived and became the High Marshall of the Defenders of Cadia. What the hell, GW?
James Hernandez
Angel Blade/Traitor's Hate are about the fight over the Daemon Cage.
>The First Captain, initially angry at the Magos’ imperious summons, had become serious and engaged as Ivasnophon revealed the nature of the technology that he sought upon Amethal. It was an ancient prize, something made by those who ruled the galaxy long before the first Terran life forms emerged from the primordial ooze. Other examples of its sort had been found across the galaxy from time to time, hints at an incredibly potent weapon against the powers of Chaos. Ivasnophon specialised in the location, excavation and imitation of such archeotechnological treasures. For centuries he had been following a tenuous trail of clues towards this, his greatest find. Amethal was not a planet, he explained, but rather a skin of rock and biosphere stretched as camouflage over an ancient cage. Vast beyond belief, wreathed in arcane wards and dark technologies, it was a prison-eternal for daemonic entities. It was the Magos Dominus’ belief that the Amethal Cage contained hellish beings beyond count, trapped for millennia behind warded bars. Why the ancients had sought to isolate these creatures from the Warp was a mystery lost to the mists of time, but the Magos was certain they had succeeded. Captain Karlaen was horrified at this revelation, for if that were true, then the empyric inmates of this world represented a dreadful danger to the defences around the Cadian Gate. At the same time, he was not slow to grasp Ivasnophon’s purpose on this world. Building upon his countless decades of study and experimentation, the Magos Dominus was at last nearly able to replicate the technologies of the Daemon cage. He was weeks, months at most, from creating – and then mass producing-devices that could cage Daemons on a vast scale. Though not a permanent solution to the daemonic threat, such devices might end daemonic incursions as soon as they began, and thus turn the tide in the war for the Cadian Gate.
Samuel Gutierrez
The Imperium seeks to harness the ancient technology of the Daemon Cage and use it against Chaos while the Black Legion seek to break the Daemon Cage wide open.
Not only will the breaking of the Daemon Cage cause a warp rift and unleash primordial daemons, it will drag the Eye forward towards helping Abaddon guide the Eye's expansion towards Terra.
Jordan Campbell
Nah, Lorgar is the diplomat Primarch, he's the guiy who'se gonna rally the forces of chaos with his charismatic charismaness. I personally hope they neck Mortarion. Dude is boring as fuck. But realistically, it's probably going to be Fulgrim, what with Slaanesh (probably) getting squatted and all. Shame, I always liked that guy.
Tyler Green
>Nah, Lorgar is the diplomat Primarch, he's the guiy who'se gonna rally the forces of chaos with his charismatic charismaness. lolwut? Chaos forces already rallied among the Abaddon, after Legions wars
Christopher Martinez
The traitor used an artifact called Banshee Stone to crack the Daemon Cage before teleporting out of there.
Adam White
Though, the Imperials managed to destroy the stone, they were oblivious that the traitors achieved their objective.
Jack Allen
Ah, sorry, should have added 'once Cypher kills Abaddon'.
Everything is shaping up for Primarch Wars 2: Geneseed Boogaloo, they're going to want a Primarch leading the forces of chaos.
Gavin Ross
Kranon, master of the Crimson Slaughter, stole Black Legion thunderhawks and escaped the lanet with the reminder of his men.
Kharn was teleported out of the planet on orders of Abaddon. He didn't like that one bit.
As for the Cage, it's breaking apart. The Black Legion are hiding and watching it happen. Abaddon is most pleased.
Gabriel Gomez
>'once Cypher kills Abaddon'. >implying Cypher wouldn't be killed by genestealer "nothing personnel man-thing"
Easton Turner
But the situation is not entirely hopeless for the Imperium. Though Magos Ivasnophon who was so close to unlocking the secrets of the Daemon Cage was unfortunately killed by Kharn....he had a back up clone back on his forgeworld. The work continues and perhaps he will be able to reserve engineer the technology of the Daemon Cage and put it to good use against the 13th Black Crusade.
Owen Hughes
The Blood Angels left the system and began their journey to Baal hoping to get there before the Tyranids and the Khornate legions of Khorne begin their invasion of their home system.
They left a librarians and a squad of scouts to watch over the Daemon Cage, and they called the Grey Knights for help. The arrival of the Grey Knight might resolve the situation before it gets any worse.
This plotline ends here. Will GW continue it? Who knows. They skipped it and went to FoC. What's with all the hurry, GW? Up next is Fall of Cadia.
Connor Robinson
This is good summary of Fall of Cadia. I am gonna into the specifics of Fall of Cadia that people got wrong. If you have request please tell me.
Gavin Collins
Make a YouTube channel and do regular lore videos. The only person doing even remotely decent ones is arch, and well, he's not that great.
Connor Hughes
For some reason people doubted that the destruction of the Cadian Pylons is going to doom the galaxy as the Eye expands to consume everything. What can I say? Imperialfags made acting a fool an art.
Anyways, posting the bits about it.
Bentley Smith
I ain't got the time or patience, man. This is the best I can do for now. Also my biases tend to get the better of me sometimes.
Joseph Russell
The Cadian Pylons are destroy and process of galactic unmaking has begun. The Eye will grow and grow until it eats up and dissolves the galaxy.
Can it be stopped or is everything DOOMED?!
Colton Long
Fall of Cadia had some hints about the future events that actually took place other two books. Cypher coming out of hiding. The Belial IV re-invasion.
So I am gonna dumb the hints from Fracture of Cadia so they might help us predict what's going to happen in the future for this narrative.
First off, the Ymgra Monolith. A mystery dating back to 2nd edition. Finally, we get some information and revelation about what it is. It seems to be Necron related.
As the Warp storm crashes around the region, the Ymgra Monolith is creating a sphere of order that's keeping the bale energies of the Warp away.
The Sautekh Dynasty has surrounded the Ymgra Monolith with, well, more monoliths. Thousands of them! They seem to be defending the structure. Also most puzzling Necron ships that come near the Ymgra Monolith are duplicated, increase the Necron fleet numbers.
For some reason the daemon legions of Khorne are attacking the Necrons defending the Monolith. What does this event mean for the Necrons? What's inside the monolith that's worth is much assets to defend? Why are the daemons of Khorne attacking the bloodless Necrons?
Chase Murphy
Fracture of Biel-Tan*
Julian Miller
Lucius the Eternal and his band are leading an orgy of slaughter noise across Imperial space.
Alongside them a is a huge serpentine figure that's utterly destroying everything thrown at him/her. Any idea who is that serpentine being?
Michael Young
Literally only if the Necrons and Imperium become temporary allies until Chaos is stopped.
Noah Torres
>Any idea who is that serpentine being? You are pathetic. How many GW pays you for this circuis
Cooper Garcia
You know the Firewall that the Admech created via igniting the Damocles Gulf with a doomsday weapon? Well, the firewall merged with the forming Warpstorm and have apparently attained malignant sentience. It's now spreading towards Imperial and Tau space and attacking any fleet it comes across.
Good job, Imperials. The Tau cannot catch a break, goddamn.
Aaron Clark
I do it for free
Dylan Ward
I refuse to believe in it
Jace Sullivan
They are literally doing the same thing as they did with WFB, aren't they?
I know it gets said a lot and so far I've been pretty cynical, but there's no fucking way all this new stuff about the warp merging with the material universe is just the usual empty fluff. It's too consistent.
Also, was the war in heaven always over three billion years ago or did they change it? I seem to remember it being around the time the dinosaurs went extinct before.
Daniel Williams
>They are literally doing the same thing as they did with WFB, aren't they? Nah, more likely there will be no total destruction of setting
Jacob Price
A massive genestealer infesation was revealed in the cradle of mankind. Terra is crawling with them.
This shouldn't be possible. Not with all the extensive vetting and scanning programs utilized to protect Terra. While an investigation is underway to discover how this breach happened, efforts are being made to contain and cover up the infestation.
So how did the genestealers get on Terra? incompetence or was it a deliberate conspiratorial act?
Nathaniel Thompson
I reckon they're setting up for the The Great Crusade 2. The Emperor will be reborn (with a £80 model, that everyone will buy), there will be expansion (so new gear for the Space Marines), Daemon and regular Primarchs and the rebirth of the Eldar race (with a trademarked name and shiny, new models).
Landon Hill
So, genestealers have basically achieved the goal that chaos have been working on for ten thousand years in under four hundred? And it isn't even their primary goal as a faction; just another fucking planet to them.
Wyatt Turner
>They are literally doing the same thing as they did with WFB, aren't they?
Kinda. The destruction of the Cadian Pylons and the enacting of the Middenheim ritual are similar. Both revolve around expanding existing warp rifts to swallow the whole world/galaxy. But there is one thing that 40K doesn't have that gives it advantage over WHFB. 40K doesn't have Mannfred Von Carstein.
>Also, was the war in heaven always over three billion years ago or did they change it?
No, the War in Heaven is still 60 million years old.
Bentley Murphy
Actually, the new Vaults of Terra series focuses on xenos and Chaos infiltrators on Terra.
Iskandor Khayon also travel to Terra and bypassed Imperial defenses to act as Abaddon's messenger to the Emperor.
Julian Perry
>The Emperor will be reborn (with a £80 model, that everyone will buy), there will be expansion (so new gear for the Space Marines), Nah more likely Guilliman will be new Emperor, and using Draigo he creates new Space Marines for his anti-Chaos crusade
Hunter Watson
>Iskandor Khayon btw what happens to him after Talon of Horus?
Luke Brown
He is still a prisoner of the Inquisition on Terra as the 13th Black Crusade rages. The next book in the series will have him telling the story of the First Black Crusade. The book should come out this year.
Justin Hill
What's the deal with the Wulfen? How on earth is the Inquisition, Guard, etc. not dealing with the fact that a Chapter has literal mutants among them?
Austin Ward
I have no idea what to make of this? Play card? Steel serpent? Wat?
Tyler Perez
In Fenris? The Grey Knights said they were okay.
On Cadia? Greyfax wanted to do something about them and all the heresies around her. Trazyn set her straight on the priorities.
Isaiah Wilson
might be Malys's kabal
Charles Turner
It seems that GW may be retconning the Mary Sue, seeing as in talon of Horus he scoffs at the mention of Ygethmor, saying it's an Imperial urban legend about various chaos sorcerers, but in FoC Abaddon talked to Ygethmor
Colton Lee
>No, the War in Heaven is still 60 million years old.
So, this daemon cage was built to hold daemons nearly four billion years before daemons were a thing?
I know that the warp can do some timey-wimey bullshit, but come on.
Gavin Morales
>saying it's an Imperial urban legend about various chaos sorcerers, Nope he just said that in ignorance Imperium named several different sorcerers by this name (also, it could by anything title, or daemon name)
Henry Allen
They'll unmake the Eldar's new god and everything will go back to normal.
Magnus will go and sulk for 10,000 years, Fulgrim will go back to jerking it, Rowboat will go back into stasis like the Rodimus Prime he's always been, the Inquisition will continue to be rightly suspicious of pricks like the DA and SW, Abaddon's arms will fall off.
It's moving forward, but it's not building up to the end like people have been making out. This isn't anything more dramatic than 2E was in lore terms - and if there's a new edition coming? 2E was significantly improved over RT+12 books of White Dwarf reprints, and not just because it was easier on your spine.
Slaanesh isn't getting squatted. The whole "butts n' titties offend the moms!" argument is pointless - if it was a problem with sales that way, they'd redesign or dump the line completely, not phase it out over the better part of a decade's worth of storylines that specifically draw attention to it. Sales won't wait for that.
Fact is, nobody ever even liked Slaanesh, so the lack of sales clearly wouldn't be a problem.
>implying Cypher isn't actually Luther >implying the Luther who confessed wasn't an Alpha Legion stooge >implying it won't be Lionel Blair who unites his traitor brothers but loses his own legion/successor chapters
see? i can play bullshit too daddy
Sounds like a really big C'Tan Shart, or maybe an extradimensional storage facility.
Lincoln Foster
>but in FoC Abaddon talked to Ygethmor
No, Abaddon talked to Zaraphiston. Abaddon says clearly that Ygethmor is dead, in FoC.
And Khayon just explains that Zaraphiston and Ygethmor are not names but titles that more than one guy wore.
Isaiah Ortiz
>Slaanesh isn't getting squatted. Because..?
Daniel Lee
>Slaanesh isn't not getting squatted Because.. ?
Nathaniel Baker
If any faction is going to get squatted, it's the Tau. They're fucking shit.
Well, simple maths answer this one. Terra is such a vastly overpopulated world that it must rely, in addition to massive recycling (near 100%) of biomass, on imports of foodstuffs and, probably air and water just to prevent mass starvation. That means hundreds of vessels a day with near-automatic clearance (since they're kilometers long and would take days to search with hundreds of ground crew). Genestealers only need to get *one* through on any of those vessels - one hybrid, one purestrain, even just one infected cultist.
Never mind searching the vessels - keeping tabs on every ship's crew *at the genetic level* is impossible, especially for a society of cargo-cult priests like the AdMech. Of course one got through, with all the millions that must have been coming ahead of the three major hive fleetst for hundreds of years, even if they never got through before. Once you're in, you're in.
Anthony Morris
the tau sell shit sells shit can't get squatted
Zachary Robinson
You have to read what people are saying to understand what you've been told.
I know it's hard for you, but try and keep up. We're all rooting for you.
Jack King
>The Grey Knights said they were okay.
For fuck's sake.
Jeremiah Jones
Then the biggest change to come out of all this will be Fourth Sphere expansion, and the Tau are getting Warp Drive. Otherwise they're just a little blue irrelevancy on the edge of the map.
Alexander Jones
the grey knights deal with daemons and their hosts
Adam Butler
Stop evading the question and add some arguments to your post
Adam Ross
Age of Sigmar
Andrew Bennett
It seems that the Cadians aren't gonna be the only guys that are homeless.
A massive wounded void whale is heading towards Catachan, and behind it is our favorite Ork freebooter and his Waaaagh!. Captain Badrukk!
Bentley Foster
If the Tau are irrelevant then how come Vielwalker mentioned them as possible candidates as allies in saving the galaxy? There are hundreds of species but she mentioned the Tau among the big ones as possible allies.
Jose Ramirez
>GW will make the story the same, twice >because it happened once before >last year >the non-eldar fanbase will accept this
autist logic.
Caleb Thompson
The Thousand Sons are back where they belong but they aren't satisfied with just that. Those who oppressed them will be punished.
Jackson Roberts
>GW squatted Slaneesh in AoS because lol why not? >GW will not make the story twice because they're a scrupulous and original company >the almost non-existent Slaneeshi fanbase will cause serious harm to their profits
Retard logic
Luke Ramirez
Do the Imperials have no idea what Slaanesh is and what's his connection with the Eldar?
Elijah Garcia
Daemosn exist beyond linear time.
Joshua Jenkins
Whether they like it or not, the Eldar will help the Imperials in their darkest hour.
What bros.
Luke Robinson
The simplest explanation is that the guy who wrote that line had no idea how old daemons are, and just wanted to say how old it is
Adrian Thompson
>under Kirby >no longer under Kirby >it's about a single fanbase and not the widespread feeling of fear/insecurity caused by the new hip storyline offering jarringly stupid canon changes and offing an armies patron.
I'd be like the Emperor actually dying, or the Eldar losing Cegorach, or the Tyranids the Hive Mind.
Once GW sweeps something like that under the rug as a token story-advancing, who will feel safe?
>AoS duurrrr Slaanesh went missing because the entire setting got turned on it's ass, mortals became celestials, and all existence became the "warp"
Understand yet, autist? It's not happening. Just like Rhana Dhandra.
Adam Jones
I like Slaanesh.
Ethan Bennett
>Once GW sweeps something like that under the rug as a token story-advancing, who will feel safe? Squats were eliminated completely years ago, yet people still panic like crazy BUT still buy GW's shit without a problem. Plus, by eliminating Slaneesh you open the doors for a new god and if it works a new fan base.
>Slaanesh went missing because the entire setting got turned on it's ass, mortals became celestials, and all existence became the "warp
Yeah total coincidence Sigmar, Nagash, Tyrion, Horned God and the other three chaos gods survived but sex man got killed
Jose Russell
As if things cannot get any worse....
The explosion of a forgeworld has caused a signal to travel in the Warp for some reasons. Psykers affected by the signal experience terrifying visions and nightmares. These psykers would later implode into daemons within a week.
The signal is now expanding and heading towards Terra and trailing it warpstorm behind it.
Remember guys, the Emperor protects.
Asher Brown
>killed more willing delusion. Just stop already.
Mason Clark
Have they ever before said that the Eye of Terror is likely to expand and cover the entire galaxy?
Because they seem to be saying that in literally every 40k supplement that gets published recently. Seems a bit weird to start pushing that as a possibility (and usually presented as being pretty much inevitable) so consistently if they have no intention of following through with it.
Carter Morris
>Have they ever before said that the Eye of Terror is likely to expand and cover the entire galaxy?
Not to my knowledge.
The whole thing started in 6th ED with the CSM codex and Black Legion supp.
Wyatt Adams
Is that seriously your only rebuttal?
Think I found the real autist
Logan Howard
>your only rebuttal >slaanesh is totally dead, not missing in action, because I say so >slaanesh will "die" in 40k because he "died" in AoS
source of AoS fluff alluding to Slaanys verified death. don't have it? don't know it? doesn't exist? then it's just wishful thinking/headcanon masquerading as a valid point, isn't it?
Thomas Jenkins
I used kill because for all intents and purposes, he is, and for the forseeable future he'll remain so.
Obviously GW might bring him back, and then I'll eat my words, but you really should stop getting hung up on stuff like this
Logan Cook
>you shouldn't get hung up on stuff like this "Slaanesh is dead in AoS" - you, untrue "Slaanesh will die because he died in AoS" - you, untrue "It's sooo obvious, too" "What? Proof?" "Jeez stop obsessing"
Eat shit, retaliation-dodger.
Andrew Reed
Well, that seems to say that there will be life on Fenris for some time after and that the Dark Angels and Ordo Hereticus will be around for a while too.
But, really GW, can the fucking wolves maybe catch a little bit of shit for being blatantly corrupt? The ordo hereticus are 'frequent guests' but somehow fail to do anything about the fact you worship a fucking wolf rather than the emperor and have a collection of mutant marines you have been hiding from them?
Nathaniel Watson
If he is AWOL and doesn't act in the plot from an out of game perspective he's dead
Adam Perry
>shilling for AoS and possible AoG so hard Also, Slaanesh cannot return into AoS since it's 8+ game now, no matter for what reasons they did it, but god of sex and drugs cannot exist under such age rating, or GW will be sued by Mohhamad's {or what was name of this Sudan little boy from WD} mother.
Chase Moore
Slaanesh armies are playable and boob daemons and Slaaneshi characters are a part of the main story.
Get out.
Jayden Ward
biel-tan epub where
Asher Ward
Check the general.
Evan Phillips
>Slaanesh armies are playable So as Tomb Kings. >and Slaaneshi characters are a part of the main story. Only when it comes to tease audience about Slaanesh returning.
Parker Nguyen
Guess how I know you're autistic.
Liam Roberts
That I am right about everything?
Jason Cox
Tomb Kings are not part of the story.
And if the Slaaneshi faction is playable and boobs faction still playable and a big part of the story proves you wrong. Slaanesh never had personal presence on the TT so whatever happens to him doesn't matter. You can still play boob daemons and rapists on the TT as much as you want so take your age rating talk elsewhere, slav.
Nolan Turner
>Never had a presence. Horseshit.
John Perez
Do you personally play Slaanesh on the TT or her/his armies?
You play her/his armies which are still playable and a part of the main story of the setting. Boobs still here and aren't going away.
Luis Murphy
Have a boob snake.
Connor Cruz
IG getting squatted confirmed
William Perry
>All the IG get turned into scions
might be good,
Christian Flores
>Tomb Kings are not part of the story. Yet still they are playable. >and a big part of the story proves you wrong. But it's not big part of the story, since only gods are main characters in AoS. >can still play boob daemons and rapists on the TT as much as you want So as i can play TK >so take your age rating talk elsewhere, slav. Make me, shill.
Henry Powell
not an argument
you've been btfo completely
Hunter Price
>NO U"VE BEEN BTFO, I SAID IT! not an argument
Mason Robinson
No arguments in this post. Primarily lie was disproven. Slav shit BTFO.