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Need some fluffy and inexpensive lists for Sons of Horus. Can't decide fluff wize what to make, I love big blobs, but then no deep strike and little armor. Not a fan of armor but STEHL REHN tactics just sounds like SoH. That or Reavers sounds fluffy. What do?
Jason Butler
How to play vs waac-faggot with mass thanatar?
Hudson Adams
So how many times did Fulgrim smash eidolon's boipussi?
Kevin Torres
6 times obviously.
Grayson Ramirez
more information needed
or
dont play them
Eli Hill
So I have a question about basing for advantage (or not as the case may be). I'd like my ICs to be on higher bases so they stand out, and I've modeled away and now just noticed that the one I've made is now standing on something that's effectively the height of two bases. Is that going to annoy people? I didn't do it to gain or lose advantage, I just didn't think about it.
Kayden Sanchez
don't play if you're not having fun.
for the sake of argument because it's an enetertaining proposition: bring lots of armor (probably dreads) and spread out so his str 8 template does fuck all. if it's sollex lascannon variants, pity him for shitty choice of models and the amount of points invested for mediocre return.
Levi Adams
if anything you have lost advantage by making them harder to stick in cover.
basing for advantage is generally using larger bases than the model was supplied with. There are very, very few cases where that is considered acceptable (and pretty much all of them are warhound titan scale or larger)
Wyatt Evans
nobody will care
Tyler Foster
mastodon filled with contemptors and justarians.
Jackson Watson
>I love big blobs and I cannot lie >You battle brothers can't deny How about Kharybdis pods bringing 20-man units, or 20-man Assault squads? You know, they're toops too. Orbital Assault m8. SoHs reroll ones for reserves.
Cooper Sanders
2+ with magus in 1k game. I play AL.
Nicholas Reyes
I want to add a Praevian to my Thousand Sons. Any suggestions on what to do with it?
Legion Inductees for Raptora Castellax (5++/4++)? Same for some Vorax?
Or use one of the generic rules?
Nathaniel Cox
Jesus fucking christ, tell him to fuck right off.
Parker Richardson
nah fuck that.
Brody Rodriguez
Why Praevian instead of just taking psi beep boops and saving an HQ slot for another IC or Osiron?
Christopher Murphy
Why are you playing with someone like that?
Owen Green
infiltrate like 50x sniper veterans
Mason Brown
No other choice. Only 3 people wanna play heresy in our club. And he - one of them. He always play waac, and now seek the most power in game.
Gavin Russell
>mastadon >inexpensive lel
Leo Richardson
No LoWs can fit at 1k points.
Xavier Nguyen
ask to swap lists for a game, see what he says.
or just start running sisters of silence and custodes everywhere. he can't do much with no juice.
Isaac Rogers
this . sniper vets fucking wreck automata. also, if you can get thanatar in combat they can't do jack shit, they just don't have enough attacks.
actually yeah this is a good point, how the hell is he even fitting two thanatars and magnus in the same list at 1000 points? there's no way to take a primarch at 1k without using primarch's chosen
Zachary Jones
I think he meant magos.
Angel Reed
But they heavy support, no?
>ask to swap lists for a game, see what he says
I don't wanna buy weak models.
Dylan Cooper
oh I'm dumb.
well, yeah, original point then, sniper vets should wreck 'em. they're the best way to deal with artillery and MC in general in my opinion. either that or the best tarpit melee unit you can think of then just hold the board while they grind away for the whole game in the most boring non-lethal assault.
honestly, thanatar are not actually a very efficient unit and are more of an intimidating distraction threat than anything else. if they're in the same unit they also suffer the problem that any multi-shot large blast barrage unit has in that the second shot is going to flip off and hit absolutely nothing most of the time. granted, when you only have 1000 points of dudes it only takes a few good shots to kill half your list, so I don't think you can really afford to ignore them in this case.
Lucas Watson
So I was reading some tactica for the TSons and people were saying that the Osiron Dreads are HQ choices? Where does it say that? Does this mean an Osiron Deadnought Talon would be a HQ choices then?
Brody Powell
I thought Osirons were an upgrade to a normal Dread Talon.
Samuel Davis
What's on your painting table /hhg? I'm working my way through some Apothecaries today.
Daniel Collins
Better shooting with ETA, Dark Lances and the re-rolls. Better mobility and melee with Scouting from Vorax and WS4. Praevian is a tough HQ for handling Signs & Portents unlike the Osiron. The Osirons are shit IMO.
Eli Davis
Is your spray ok? White seems kind of uneven
Anthony Rivera
As did I but even people in this thread seem to think its HQ I just thought I'd missed something.
Jayden White
Because that's what's written right there on the TS rules.
Jackson Flores
IIRC TS have unique RoW that makes Magnus HQ
Ryder Evans
The minimum playable with that is 1005 points, so not fitting in a 1k list.
Thomas Cruz
That's after drybrushing, and after adding some chipping and weathering powder the unevenness helps with texture.
Robert Jenkins
Huh. So would that make the Osiron Deadnought Talon a HQ choice?
Ryan Cook
not him, but you might want to reconsider a smoother white, it doesn't look very good at least from what I can tell of that photo.
got any other finished stuff to give a better idea once it's on base?
on other topics: Repost from last thread, basing suggestions for black armor? I did medium tone desert for 40k Inquisition, but I'm not sure if I want to do my 30k raven guard differently.
Carson Hill
Not that user but I think he meant the TSons Castellax.
Also whats not to like about the Osiron? They dont get affected by Signs and portents as they dont have the LA special rule, although their perils still trigger it.
Gavin Perez
Do you guys have any girls in your local group?
Matthew Morales
I'll come back when this is a Hale's Own Will we have made it to Terra by then?
Nicholas Torres
It's weird.
You aren't forced to upgrades dreads the same so the fate of other dreads when one gets upgraded is confusing.
Christopher Lopez
It's really expensive and force weapon is redundant one something that already smack bitches left and right.
William Gutierrez
After more work they turn into something like these guys.
Parker Morgan
>Excited to have my first game with Tsons on Saturday >45 minutes after he says he would show up, he sends a text saying he cant make it
Cameron Gomez
Well, I assembled some rubric marines so I can use them as command squad members for Ahriman.
Is it just me but lightning claws have zero love in this game?
Xavier Richardson
>just as I'm so sorry user
Easton Johnson
what were you gonna be up against? also batrep when you get round to it
Justin Ramirez
Single lightning claws are really good on Terminators that you're sending in to blend normal marines, but if you're going up against 2+ saves or characters they're useless next to power/chainfists.
Carson Wright
raven guard
Christian Jenkins
Well, I equipped my command squad with 5 plasma pistols, 1 power fist, 1 lightning claw, rest in "charnabal" sabers once I acquire appropriate bits.
Bentley Hughes
>Any contermptor dreadnought talon taken as part of a Thosuand Sons detachment may be upgraded to a Osiron Dreadnought for 50 points each.
Forge World rules everyone. Does this mean every dreadnought in the talon must be upgraded to an Osiron? The first line specifies talon which I guess mean yes?
Andrew Edwards
looks pretty good, I see what you mean by the texture now, it makes that agrax wash 'weather' them pretty well.
Easton Johnson
Because you can't take the Castellax-Achea with a Praevian and I'm explaining why a regular Castellax does some things better.
Christian Reed
And they don't count for the "All HQs dead" rule while taking an HQ slot, that's why I call them shit.
Zachary Anderson
What color should I make my apothecary's manskirt. Pic related is also the rest of my power armored mooks.
Christian Young
Teal for extra surgeon feel.
Jayden Hill
Isn't it more of a seafoam green?
Gabriel Gonzalez
sure. I'm blind
Kayden Powell
Nice way to dodge actually providing proof.
Camden Cooper
Angron confirmed for poor. Can't get a car, has to ride the bus.
Owen Hill
Mr. Nailbrain couldn't pass the driving test anyway
Ethan Cook
Angron cannot ride in a Caestus, this is a fact. Playing with house rules with you jerk off buddy is fine, playing in events or pick up games with custom rules are not. Argument over, stop flooding threads with shit.
Jackson Barnes
trolls can't even keep who they're replying to straight
but yeah this needs to stop
Lincoln Reyes
Yes. I got my gf into it.
Christopher Myers
what does she play? 30k doesn't have tyranids
Connor Garcia
user, this is what he was replying to . I don't give a shit where Upsetron can and cannot ride, I want to know what proof user has that 8e WoC army book says Khorne has honour and Russ is a tractor.
Jonathan Baker
kek
Cameron Gutierrez
Probably ECs because dat purple and gold
inb4 someone suggests BAs as an unfunny joke
Jonathan Barnes
ECs and BAs are the pretty marines, so that makes a lot of sense
Jose Lee
I'm going to guess custodes
Tyler Rodriguez
Any advice for an AL army in general? Units to stick go for?
Blake Phillips
What Discipline would suit Magnus best when used as psychic D-platform?
Henry Brown
>taking Magnus
Kevin Allen
For D platform, Pyromancy.
I honestly think he's best overall going max biomancy. The buffs make him a monster in combat and while there's no novas, smite is fine power to unleash on some tanks and heavy hitters.
Owen Rodriguez
Anyone have a gaming mat, like the FAT mats that frontline sells? is there a particularly good brand to buy?
Wyatt Morales
Not a troll, people just following rules.
Follow the rules.
I've never had people actively complain about mats to make a definitive claim. I know that zuzzy mats are really nice, but can take forever to be delivered.
Valdor vs. generic Tribune for HQ choice. Which one would be better? Tribune's 'choose your trait' seems neat.
Kevin Mitchell
Depending on the ruling of Magnus's special rules and Sanctic perils I believe Sanctic will be the best. Blessings, a nova and D power all in one tree.
Jacob Cox
Only one of those models gets a 3++ rerollable invuln.
Caleb Fisher
Sanctic Perils?
Angel Carter
you always peril on doubles when casting sanctic powers if you arent a grey knight, you fucking animeposter
Nicholas Perez
Uhhh... I mean the mobile game.
Justin Ramirez
So what's the problem cunt? Magnus says that he perils on trip 6. Model special rule trumps general rule.
You fucking cunt
Lucas Baker
magnus's rules are ludicrously broken so good luck getting anybody to agree with it
Robert Reed
eh, I'd wait for an FAQ on that, since that sounds like a general case perils change rather than what specifically happens for sanctic.
this entire book is full of garbage they didn't think through or test for inconsistencies that are pretty obvious to most of us immediately. it's a bit of a letdown. I wonder how many flat-out misprints there are in the talons rules given that they pretty obviously fucked up the weapon stats for secutarii.
Alexander Long
Nothing to argue about. Model rule trumps general rule.
Ryder Kelly
nobody is even going to agree to play against magnus, so its irrelevant.
Jeremiah Moore
Erratas will likely nerf him down significantly if FW has any sense, but for now he perils on trip 6, all form of witchfire gets range + S boost, and invisibility make him impossible to hit.
Tyler Rivera
There's always something to argue about user.
Jordan Ward
Well yeah, but the important thing is that things are correct.
But not this
Blake Jackson
If Magnus is like this then how the fuck would the E be since he's kind of garanted ML6