Song of Swords: $17,000 Get

Last time on Song of Swords:
Jimmy's anime girl reaction face folder dumped
Rat fecht repost
Why SoS is the way it is
Rules for the upcoming Tournament and a few character submissions!

The KS link & Opaque's website
kickstarter.com/projects/2006613790/song-of-swords-tabletop-roleplaying-game
songofswords.net/

Song of Swords is a a tabletop RPG centered around realistic medieval fightan' with a ludicrous variety of weapons and fighting styles, centered around a dice pool system. It's currently in beta, and can be used for both fantasy and historical games. Kickstarter is happening NOW we are kicking ass baby!

Call of the Void: Ballad of the Laser Whales is a pulpy sci-fi tabletop RPG about fighting space-nazis and hunting giant whales with harpoons made out of the moon. Its combat system is more modern, based in the early 20th century, but can probably handle combat up to the present day.

MEGA folder containing current version of the game and all supplementary materials.
Note that the latest version of the game is v1.9.9 but with additional supplements. It's NOT what's currently on Opaque's website, because Jimmy is Jimmy.
mega.nz/#F!S89jTT7J!ozFi9GvzaFGHfBa59Ik2-Q

Here's a wiki detailing SoS's fantasy setting, getting filled up bit by bit as Jimmy reveals more details:
tattered-realms.wikia.com/wiki/Tattered_Realms_Wiki

We also have a Discord now, at discord.gg/zzTq7Xw
Come join us if you wanna ask a question or have a friendly fecht, or shitpost at Jimmy in real-time

>There's also a roll20 room where new players are encouraged to try the rules, test new rules, and find game breaking issues: app.roll20.net/join/346755/hRKd4w
>The room might be empty, but the people who teach the game still browse the thread frequently. If you're looking to learn, post here in the thread. We also play Guy Windsor's card game Audatia in the room.

AND THE LEGEND CONTINUES

Other urls found in this thread:

reddit.com/r/SongofSwordsRPG/
myarmoury.com/feature_mail.html
reddit.com/r/ImaginaryCharacters/comments/5v9vvm/sarah_gizka_from_the_song_of_swords_rpg/
paste2.org/B1hwmz8d
reddit.com/r/ImaginaryCharacters/comments/5va215/sarah_gizka_from_the_song_of_swords_rpg/
therpgsite.com/showthread.php?35499-KICKSTARTER-The-RPGsite-Thread-for-Information-About-Kickstarter-Projects
paste2.org/M2OsNVeD
forums.spacebattles.com/threads/song-of-swords-rpg-now-on-kickstarter.494800/
twitter.com/SFWRedditVideos

Don't forget to vote in the new NPC Army Deck poll!
Link on the kickstarter.

Should include
reddit.com/r/SongofSwordsRPG/

And the other threads on other sites.

Submitting my tournament character for lore review before I build him.

An Orredin nobleman who, long ago, was a high up in the Imperial army. He commanded, led, advised the Emperor, and was generally a pretty fucking big deal. However, following his retirement, he spent literally centuries throwing debauched orgies and absurd tournaments. By the time he was approached with a request to back a coup against the Emperor, he had forgotten most of the things that had made him valuable to the Empire in the first place. When the coup failed he was shoved off in a pointless position that would never support his way of life. Now (relatively) impoverished and having forgotten most of the things he made his fortune with in the first place, he has done the unthinkable and left Helion to remake his fortune. As it turns out, this involves hand to hand combat in the arena. Oh, well. He fought once, he can fight again.

>someone is trying to argue that maille armor wasn't widely used in europe and is just a meme
Someone give me sources, I need to bludgeon this person.

It's okay. Today, because of For Honor, I had people try to tell me that A) katanas could cut through late-medieval plate B) katanas weren't made of steel, but they couldn't tell me what they were made of, and c) plate was super heavy and made you slow.

>tfw /sos/ has trained an entire generation of realistic arms/armor autists

Literally any medieval illustration. Is this somewhere on Veeky Forums, or a retarded person you know from elsewhere?

Here's a basic overview of the stuff.
myarmoury.com/feature_mail.html

Can you point to a museum as your source?

It's all true though
Katanas are the greatest weapon ever made
You can even cut through T-72s with a katana. That's why the USSR didn't invade Japan after WW2

They probably also think that samurai armor was made of wood.

Given that katanas could cut through steel plate, why wouldn't they armor themselves in wood? Arrows get stuck in trees and it's not going to stop a katana anyway
this is bait

...

That said, finding out that they were going with wood armor for the samurai faction really did fricassee my fanny even more than the slightly off armor design itself

Woh. I didn't know wood could rust!

It must be the famous Ironwood!

Stay beautiful, /sos/

Honorable Wapanese tree, folded ten thousand time. Cut through steel like katanah through tank.

Obligatory

Daily reminder that if you use anything but a 2H Blunt weapon you deserve what's coming to you

Godendag for life, m8

Zeyaad Sulakir
Kedouin Raider Captain
26 PCP

Race 1 (Human)
Stats 7 (160)
Profs 8 (21)
Skills 3 (6)
Social 5 (10 GP 2 [W]
B&B 2 (-10)

STR:7 AGI:7 END:6 HET:5
WIT:7 INT:4 WIL:6 PER:6
ADR:6 TOU:6 CHA:8 MOB:9 GRIT:3
Carry: 12
CP: 18
++++++++++++++++++++++++

School: Soldier 10

Polearm: Riposte, Hook [Superior], Disarm [Superior], Hew [Superior], Break [Superior], Simultaneous Parry/Attack

Wrestling: Clnch [Superior], Disarm [Superior], all other Clinch Maneuvers [Superior]

1H Sword: Pommel Strike [Superior], Shield Bind [Superior], Deep Draw Cut, Riposte [Superior],
Murder-Strike, Half-sword, Quickdraw, Shield Bash [Superior], Shield Beat [Superior], Simultaneous Parry/Attack [Superior], Beat [Superior], Disarm [Superior], Hilt Push [Superior], Push Cut [Superior]

Throw: Fling

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Skills:
Strategy 2
Tactics 2
Drill 1
Ride 4
Navigation 1

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Banes:
Wanted (10), Technologically Impaired (5), Honorable (15)

Boons:
Natural Leader (3), Natural Born Killer (12), True Grit (4), Languages (1, Karthacki)

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Heavy Backsword: 1H Sword | L | STN: 7(+2c) | TTN: 8(+1p) | DTN: 8(3) | Wt: .5 20 sp

Khyber Knife: Dagger/1H Sword | S | STN: 7(+0c) | TTN: 7(+1p) | DTN: 7(2) | Draw 4*, Thin Blade | Wt: 0 | Custom Gripx2, Custom Hilt, Ridiculously Sharp, Fine Forgingx2 5 sp

Ge: Spear/Polearm | VL | STN: 7(+3c) | TTN: 7(+2p) | DTN: 7(0) | AP Strike 1, Heavy Weapon, Hook | Wt: 5 | Ridiculously Sharp, Fine Forgingx3 5 sp

Light Javelin: Thrown | Range: 15 | MTN: 7 | +2p | Catch 5/10 | Wt: 0 | 1 sp

Rodela: Bash: 8(+0b) | Block: 7 | AV: 8 | Hand, Forearm, Elbow, Upper Arm,
Chest, Side | Wt: 1 | 10 sp

++++++++++++++++++++++++

Eastern Conical Helm (Morion): 8/7/6 | Lower Head*, Upper Head | Hard, +1 Vs Downward swings | Wt: 1 | PP: 0 | Intimidating Crest, Identifying Crest 52 sp

Mail Ventail: 6/4/3 | Face | Hard, Mail, Layer 1 | Wt: 1 | PP: -1 | 2 sp
Padded Ventail: 2/3/4 | Face | Textile | Wt: 0 | PP: -1 | 1 cp

Mail Camail: 6/4/3 | Lower Head, Neck, Shoulders | Hard, Mail, Layer 1 | Wt: 1 | 4 sp
Padded Camail: 2/3/4 | Lower Head, Neck, Shoulders | Textile | Wt: 0 | 8 cp

Heartguard: 8/7/6 | Chest? | Hard | Wt .5 | 1 sp
Mail Shirt: 6/4/3 | Full Torso, Groin, Hips, Thighs | Hard, Mail, Layer 1 | Wt: 1.5 | 20 sp
Heavy Quilted Coat: 3/4/5 | Full Torso, Shoulders, Groin, Hips, Thighs, Knees | Textile | Wt: 1 | 5 sp

Spaulders: 8/7/6 | Shoulders?, Upper Arms? | Hard, ½ AV vs thrusts | Wt: .5 | 6 sp
Mail Sleeves: 6/4/3 | Shoulders, Upper Arms, Elbows, Forearms | Hard, Mail, Layer 1 | Wt: 1.5 | 20 sp
Leather Lam. Sleeves: 3/4/3 | Shoulders, Upper Arms, Elbows, Forearms | Wt: 0 | 3 sp
Hard Leather Gloves: 4/3/3 | Hands | Wt: 0 | 2 sp

Mail Groin Gusset: 6/4/3 | Groin | Hard, Mail, Layer 1 | Wt: 0 | 3 sp
Hard Leather Cuisses: 4/3/3 | Hips, Thighs | Wt: 0 | 8 cp
Hard Leather Knees: 4/3/3 | Knees | Wt: 0 | 6 cp
Greaves: 8/7/6 | Shins | Hard | Wt: 1.5 | 6 sp
Hard Leather Boots: 4/3/3 | Feet | Wt: 0 | 3 sp

Total weight 11/15.5
8 gp 19 sp a few cp spent

Crap, I forgot Talents.

Brigade upvote this shit for exposure:

reddit.com/r/ImaginaryCharacters/comments/5v9vvm/sarah_gizka_from_the_song_of_swords_rpg/

The character art is good, we should tap it.

>there doesn't seem to be anything here
Nice link.

Keep in mind that while you may have javelins, you will not be in a Bystander phase. You'll have to wield them as a melee weapon and Weapon Throw.

That's mainly for flavor. I almost went through and statted out a camel as well, but that I'm lazy.

Rosalie Azevedo, Pretty Knave

Race: Human (1)
Att: 140 (6)
Skills: 15 (6)
Profs: 15 (6)
Wealth: Poor Freeman - 3g (3)
Boons: 0 (4)
26/26 CRP

Money: 13s 5c
CP: 14
MP: 8
CAR: lol cloth/10

STR 3 AGI 8 HT 4 END 5
WIT 8 WIL 5 PER 7 INT 4
ADR 7 TOU 4 CHA 10 GRIT 3 CAR 10

Profs: Self Taught [Blind-Toss] Level 8
Firearms (+0)
1H Swords (-1)
Daggers (-1)

Talents:
Accuracy (N)
Specialist: Disarm (N)
Infighter (J)
Stepping Parry (J)

Skills:
Athletics: 2
Navigation: 1
Observation: 1
Stealth: 2
Persuasion: 3
Subterfuge: 5

Weapons:
Rapier (Sword) 1H/ M/ 6(-1c/+0p)/ 7(3) Fluid Thrusts, Thin Blade .5WT - 30sp
Main Gauche (Dagger) 1H/HA/ 7(-1c/+0p)/ 6(3) Companion, Light Blade 0WT - 3sp

Armor:
Cloth Coat (Exquisite 600% [Naval Officer]) 1/1/1 Textile, Full Torso, Groin, Hip, Knees, Shoulders, Thighs 1s
Cloth Everything Else: 1/1/1 Textile, Hand, Elbow, Forearm, Upper Arm, Shins - 5cp
Leather Boots: 3/2/2 Feet - 1s

Misc Items:
Matchlock Pistol (Won’t be used) 10s 6c
Ballx20 2c
Matchcordx3feet 3c
Gunpowderx1lb 5c

Boons & Banes (0):
Ambidextrous (3)
Beautiful (3)
NBK (6)
Allies (1)
Languages [not!Portuguese] (1)
Favor (1)
Hale and Heartyx2 (SC)
Craven (-7)
Short (-8)
Complete Monster (-10)

Arc Goals:
Epic - Sink the Rosalie’s Love
Glory - Getting Away with It
Flaw - Compulsive Liar


Anyone wanna take bets on how long she'll live?

Reposting tournament character

German Longsword Jobber
Saga Arc: Win the tournament
Epic Arc: Train the next generation of warriors
Belief Arc: Children must surpass their parents
Glory Arc: Earn fame as the mentor of the greatest fighters
Flaw Arc: Risks injury, death, and worse by intentionally fighting strong opponents while at a low level; so convinced is he that his technical approach is the best

This girl scares me.

Where does this sheet come from, anyway?

It's my personal sheet that I made after getting tired of doing text sheets like this >will you release it
No
>why
It's not complete

I mean, I certainly have an Excel sheet of my own device but I figured I'd step in line with the crowd.

paste2.org/B1hwmz8d
Reposting due to thread dying.

...

That's the comments. The actual thread is there, but nobody has commented on it yet.

Worked in Chrome, but not Firefox? Reddit is fucking garbage.

Anyways, here's the link. Let me know if this one works or if my tendies level is too high to do this.

reddit.com/r/ImaginaryCharacters/comments/5va215/sarah_gizka_from_the_song_of_swords_rpg/

>doesn't show up on the "new" list for the sub
uh

>Looking at other kickstarters
Ahh, nothing like a tall glass of whitepill in the evening.

She will live for about 10 seconds before I burn her as a witch for having no Faith arc

With AGI 8 and WIT 8, her ADR is 8, not 7.

>if I compare myself to failures and idiots, I feel good
You are better than them. Your product is better, your design is better, and your marketbase is better. The only thing holding you back is marketing, and many of the other ones you're looking at probably sucked there even worse. Comparing yourself to them is like comparing your house to a homeless man. Sure, it puts things in perspective, but it's only one half of the perspective. Also compare your house to the Sun King, and realize that in fact the successes and failures of others are so broad as to be functionally irrelevant to your own situation. Then, armed with that knowledge, set high goals for yourself and strive to attain them. If you have reached your goals, they were not high enough and you need new ones. If you fail to reach your goals, then you have at least drawn closer to them than if you hadn't tried.

tl;dr: Make some more promotional threads on various forums. Good ones, ideally, ones situated to receive plenty of traffic. Hell, at least get a form intro for things like therpgsite.com/showthread.php?35499-KICKSTARTER-The-RPGsite-Thread-for-Information-About-Kickstarter-Projects

Speaking of this, how is the RPG.net Q&A, or whatever you have planned, going to go down? You're going to have to go there some time.

And any news on the Adventure? How much it will cost, what it might entail, when you're going to talk about it, anything?

Well, shit. Seems I got shadow banned for spamming (deleting my old post, reposting). Will talk to the moderators and maybe repost tomorrow.

Posting the sweet art to the Imaginary Network and what not will get us those sweet, sweet Gamemaster pledges.

Characters currently submitted to the tournament:
1) Jean-Grant de Saint Colere, Failed Revolt Leader
2) Kal Desar, Karthacki Footsman
3) Zeyaad Sulakir, Kedouin Raider Captain
4) Rosalie Azevedo, Pretty Knave
5) German Longsword Jobber, Jobber

If you've submitted one and I haven't seen it, post it again!
If you're still working on your character, keep at it, and submit it when you're done!

Remember that your characters should be actual characters, and certainly need to have their Arcs filled out.
Your Saga Arc can be as simple as "Win the tournament."

>Looking at other kickstarters
So we're aiming for 900% funding, right?

Those are the very top. Dont be ridiculous.

Honestly you should participate in the off-site threads if you wanna see it do it better

paste2.org/M2OsNVeD

Now with Arcs and Talents!

>Those are the very top.
Song of Swords should be too.

>you should participate in the off-site threads
What makes you think I haven't been? Hell, I've got the most recent post in several of them. But there's only so much you can do before it's spam, I'm not a dev and don't even know the system that well compared to a lot of other folks here, and the threads are mostly not well-situated to get attention in the first place.

UNFRIENDLY REMINDER

On the subject of promoting the game
forums.spacebattles.com/threads/song-of-swords-rpg-now-on-kickstarter.494800/
Somebody with a proper account (has an avatar, at the very least) go post something in this thread, ideally something a bit intelligent, to bump it.

Also Jimmy, some kind of breakdown on which sites are routing in backers would help volunteer shills.

I knew I shouldn't do things after work. I am pretty sure her AGI is 7,not 8. I will confirm in the morning when I am not a corpse.

Complete Monster removes the Belief Arc, though.

>Complete Monster removes the Belief Arc, though.
You're right!

Right now this place and Reddit are our big sellers, and while a lot of the people posting on plebbit are our people, a very significant number of people seem to back us from there, suggesting that they don't post, but they do read what we post, and then decide we're worth funding.

I think this is going to be a repeating thing, people don't know what questions to ask and they don't know how to start broaching the subject of the game, but if they see/hear things they like, they might want it anyway. Reddit has hueg potential.

Ah, my oldest gripe with SoS:
Wanting to make a balanced suite of skills, but the Skills-per-PCP ratio being the rankest of ass.

Frankly, guys, if you fixed skills at chargen, you wouldn't need to have buffed CHA's determination.

Here and reddit are given, though, since they're the only sites we've had high-profile threads on. What about the other ones?

I have this idea of doing a roll20 game where it's a fecht like

All the players are playing 1 character that's carted around with a track of choices like the old John Galt fecht threads.

Something to celebrate the recent luck with the KS.

I was thinking of making it a weekly thing, hosted on several dates and times to accommodate multiple parties. The games would range from a wide host of different time periods, genres, and subject matter with diverse character pools to chose from.

Skill packets don't exist anymore do they?

We've finally hit $18k

Not at present, no.

Well fuck that, they're supposed to

For all of 1.9.9 we've been doing homebrew skill packets. Choose five skills, pay three. That's how I made my character for the Tournament.

NOT IN THE RULES
REEEEEEEEE

Skill packets are a dumb notion anyways. They need to be replaced with something better, but removing them isn't a bad thing in itself.

They didn't address the core problem adequately for as much as they bloated the rules.
They encouraged diverse skill acquisitions, sure, but at the end of the day no character came out of the box more than merely competent in anything.

Fuck off. Making a character who isn't completely incompetent is impossible without them as it is. They're back in Ballad, they were admitted to only be left out of 1.9.9 as an editing mistake, and Jimmy himself suggested the 5 for 3 system. They're part of the rules.

Unless the tournament master says so, it's kind of a moot point, mate.

Not that the tournament will use them for anything.

There was a time when people received extra Skill points from Intelligence. I still use that rule in my own games, on top of Packets. That helps some, but it's only a bandaid on skills being so hard to come by.

Pretty sure that's still in there.

Holy fuck it is. It should be listed along with the Intelligence stat as well, not just way down in Skills.

Can you respond to this post?
>

Shouldn't skills be a function of age? I mean, that's basically how it is in real life, intelligence can impact it a bit but the normal human variation in skills due to intelligence is much smaller than the variation in skills due to age.

But also quality of training, access to education, and personal motivation.
Which is why it's just a general category in chargen.

>an old man who fucked around all his life should have more skills than a young man who has dedicated himself to learning/training

I'm ok with him not responding.

You are probably busy with video stuff and shit, but can you answer the king and firearm question on lelddit and rpgnet?

>quality of training,
True, that goes along with intelligence as a modifier on, essentially, the speed of acquisition. That too, I would say, is comparatively minor.

>access to education, and personal motivation.
Those have more to do with which skills than with the quantity or magnitude of the skills. People spend their lives learning stuff, and generally stuff that's relevant to their lives.

>implying otherwise
Have you ever met an old man who fucked around all his life? Fucking around is actually way more conducive to quantity of skills than just getting one job, one routine, and sticking with it. But even old people who've lived like that acquire skills from their daily and personal life, from hobbies, from all sorts of things, not to speak of the extreme expertise that arises in profession-relevant skills.

I'm trying on the rpg.net, but it's doing something weird where it isn't recognizing my space bar hits. wtf is with this site?

Are you sure it's not just your keyboard?

Age is a way more fucky PCP category than simple skills indicating quality of education and personal training. You are right, in that older people would have more experience doing a variety of shit, but older and more experienced people would have more PCP anyway.

Alt+32 should do it.

Alright, I'll put it this way
>40 year old mailman who has been living a rather dull middle class life and pursued no greater endeavor, being largely content to consume media in his spare time
>knows how to drive, how to cook, and talk to people and is comfortably furnished

>25 year old doctoral student who practices HEMA in his spare time and has gone on several internation trips during his breaks
>has a significant complement of skills, fighting proficiency, several boons, but is also under a mountain of debt

Imagine a dozen other such anecdotes.
Argue against or for the Int bonus, sure, but trying to tabulate age is plainly infeasible. It's the experience that matters, and yes, generally older people will have more, but that doesn't matter as much for character creation.

Most old people don't know shit because most people don't have the dedication to truly learn skills to a great extent.

You don't know what you're talking about and should hang yourself before your stupidity affects others.

see

>how to cook, and talk to people
These are actually pretty big deals.

Also, my mailman knows how to build canoes from scratch, and he fits your description. Just because people don't rail off a laundry list of their eccentricities at the drop of a hat doesn't mean they're not remarkable.

>25 year old doctoral student who practices HEMA in his spare time and has gone on several internation trips during his breaks
His skills are
1. Pretty good in the theory of one discipline, will get better and gain practical skill over time.
2. Dabbling skills, more than a layman but not enough to be useful, in several "elective" disciplines
3. Fights passing well in a dead discipline
4. Really fucking good at writing essays, probably.
5. Knows how to use trains, planes, and/or automobiles

I feel like you probably could have stacked the deck even more, but the fact is that 25 year old will eventually get older, he'll get a job doing things people see every day, and he'll eventually learn enough shit that something like HEMA or taking a dew vacations will no longer even cross his mind as something that constitutes a skill.

None of this changes the fact that this is impossible to make into a decently balanced character creation system based on PCP.

Does the winner of the tournament have the right to nominate another's character to the game instead of their own if they like them more?

Sure! Of course it relies on the generous user offering his Visionary Noble PLUS+ slot up for it, but sure.

Gonna try to make a Ge user for the big fight, might take a few days though.

You may choose the Orredin race but can't use any of its magic auto-win spells.

Yeah, none of the Orredin's kekkei genkai

Don't be afraid to ask for help or drop by the Roll20 to for some practice fechten

gesundheit

Damn it Jimmy we've seen ones labelled up to 771, what's the deal?

He's holding out on us. I'm cancelling my pledge until we get the REAL folder.

>Releasing everything at once
Come on dude.

GURPSfag here, just wanted to say best of luck to you all and your system development. Played RoS and had good fun, even though it didn't turn into a lasting thing for my group.

Good luck to you, and good gaming!

How cruel that the kickstarter starts when I have no money.

>tfw can't post backer number because transferring the remaining 50 bucks to the prepaid cc is STILL NOT FUCKING DONE
JUST
KILL
ME
NOW
I was there when the KS was still under 10 backers man.

Oh shit there's actually 354 Items right now, a bunch are just labelled the same.

how can one not have $15 to spare. If you're that poor, go rob someone. Use what you've learned from SoS combat. I'm sure it'll work out.