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Second for claiming this post for the Vlka Fenryka.
Luke Walker
Can we get a new thread? I asked for one that doesn't allow pets.
Jordan Clark
Rate my shitty OC weapon senpaitachi
Retiarius Net - 10p Net-man net 12" S4 APX
Assault 1, Blast, Pinning, One Use Only, That rule GSC Webbers have where AP = Toughness of the unit hit
I just want more cool gladiator stuff
Landon Morris
I was actually referring to the original XVI.
Charles Lee
Virtues of the Sons/Sins of the Father audiodrama link anyone?
Adam Lewis
Wow, the new Titan Guard are cool and surprisingly well balanced. I dig them. I need more Vanguard for 40k anyway, and those are viable. I don't have a Titan, though. Anyone tried them as just a line of Reductor medium infantry?
Seems fine in 30k, since AFAIK it's AP=Strength. This is a sarge or special squad weapon, right? 20 of the WE nasty tacs with a S4 blast each would be a bit much, but that looks fine in smaller numbers. WE Special dudes with one each, Bolt Pistol and maybe a Power Lance trident thing might actually be cool as hell.
Camden Cooper
>The mass of the Lux Ferem could not be stopped, but it could be slowed just enough. The city-sized weight of the mass-conveyor was barely ten metres overhead, Magnus and his warriors safe within the crater pushed up into its belly as the rest of the vessel settled on the platform with a groan of metal that went on and on until if felt like it would never stop. >But it did stop
Kevin Roberts
> Commander of the Xth Company, Captain of the XVIth Legion, loyal servant to the true Emperor of Mankind. > And I will have my vengeance, in this life or the next.
Henry Flores
Words that kill
Colton Morgan
Yeah I wanted it as and extra Caedere Weapon also the rule is that if it hits a unit who's majority T3 then it's ap3 if it hits a unit with T4 it's ap4 etc.
Angel Butler
Given how short the two stories are, you've almost certainly spent more time begging for this than it would actually take to listen to the entire thing.
Christopher Foster
>’You are so like me in so many ways,’ said the Emperor. Magnus flushed with pride, but, as always, the Emperor’s words camed multiple meanings. ’You have a great many of my strengths, but strength magnified to excess eventually becomes a weakness.’ >’How can that be?’ >’Confidence can spill over into arrogance,’ said the Emperor. ’An obsessive pursuit of perfection can blind you to what it costs to achieve. Attention to detail can become micro-management. Magnus, you have my intellect and my power, but like me you are prone to believing you can do no wrong, that your intellect lifts you above the risk of making petty mistakes or errors based on emotion.’
Gabriel Gray
Can I get a quick assessment please?
Primarch's Chosen, 2500, Death Guard
HQ Mortarion - 425
Troops -
Vets with Melta guns and Rhino, Art + Scythe on Sarge - 265 Vets with Plasma guns and Rhino, Art + Scythe on Sarge - 265 Tacs in Rhino, Artificer and Melta bombs on Sarge - 175 Flamer Support, Art + Melta on Sarge - 230
Heavy Support- 10 Grave Wardens, 2 Chainfist, Spartan (shield and AC) - 690 2 x Vindicator, Dozer - 250 Sicaran Venator, Dozer - 195
Noah Rivera
Forgot to put Rhino in with the Flamer squad.
John Wilson
Probably.
Jose Gray
So basically, fuck Sisters of Silence. Seems balanced, then. Go nuts, and make sure to make a HQ with that and the EarthBreaker Trident just for maximum theme points.
Carter Thompson
Finally! My body is ready! I want to play this list so bad. /HHG thank you so much. FUCK LOYALISTS
3000 Points "/HHG user Unbound: Hyperbolic Time Chamber Edition" Model Count: 85
Mastodon Heavy Transport - 745 Super-Heavy Command Tank, 4 Hunter-Killers 17 Tactical Marines - 225 Chainaxes, No Bolters, Power Fist, Artificier Armour, Meltabomb Forgelord /HHG-user - 135 Thunderhammer, Rad Grenades, Refractor Field, Cyber-Familiar Kharn the Bloody - 190 Gorechild Legion Apothecary - 65 Power Axe, Artificier Armour 19 Augmented Inductii - 240 Chainaxes, No Boltguns, Power Fist, Artificier Armour Galhan Surlak 110
Spartan Assault Tank 325 Armoured Ceramite 20 Tactical Marines 255 Chainaxes, No Bolters, Power Fist, Artificier Armour, Meltabomb Legion Apothecary - 65 Power Axe, Artificier Armour
Spartan Assault Tank - 325 Armoured Ceramite 20 Tactical Marines - 255 Chainaxes, No Bolters, Power Fist, Artificier Armour, Meltabomb Legion Apothecary - 65 Power Axe, Artificier Armour
I don't care it's not MSU optimal penis, WAAC faggots can suck my anus. Now I'm going to headbutt a stranger and cook 12 rashers of bacon. See you at the ETERNITY GATE.
Joseph Adams
All doggos should be hanged.
Evan Rivera
Hope you have fun with it fella, that list looks horrible if someone didn't bring much anti-tank. Although if someone did you're pretty much screwed.
Sebastian Morgan
That looks fun, and feels much more thematic than trying to shoehorn your units into a mix of tanks/fliers/pods. Have fun!
There's "bringing enough antitank" and then there's being able to stop two spartans and a mastodon in the 2/3 turns it takes them to reach your lines. I'm not sure most PUG lists reliably could do it, even tournament ones. Well, maybe 9-medusa reductor could, but fuck them.
Lucas Carter
Looks shiny, and will be hilarious when a billion guys pour out of the (probably two left) party buses on Turn 2.
I think my usual list could probably handle it, just because almost everything in it can hurt AV14, and one will almost certainly die because a bunch of angry Hoplites got dropped behind it, but that's the usual thing when fighting Mechanicum, since we don't really care what your Armour Values are, whether your Ceramite is Armoured or you've got a Flare Shield up on anything short of a Titan. Against the vast majority of Legion and Solar Aux/MaC lists I can see that doing just fine. At least you have the Skyreaper to kill Vulturax and Lightnings fairly easily, 5 S7 Twin-linked Interceptor shots will almost certainly render Strike fighters useless.
Elijah Hill
In the armored breakthrough rite of war does my warlord have to be a tank or could I take a regular praetor as my warlord?
Liam Smith
>McNeil is STILL rustled about people ripping the piss out of him for 'punching the air' m8 it's been like a decade or something, let it go
Oh and what's the David Gemmell homage in this one? *rolls dice* A planet reversing it's magnetic poles! Well, despite that being the set up for every setting in Gemmell, to be fair, we haven't seen it from you before Graham.
Now to read about Perturabo being the simply the bestest ever Primarch who ever lived in my book about Magnus.
Ethan Hill
It is finished. Now on to paint this one up very much, but not quite like the rest of my ALfags.
Took 5 evenings, end result is not quite what I had in mind (that would only have been possible with professional tools and a degree in arts ... neither of which I have) but for only the 2nd time doing any serious sculpting I'd say it looks acceptable.
Dylan Cox
That looks pretty good, I'm looking forward to seeing it painted.
Benjamin Perez
And a shot from the back.
Hopefully it shows at least a little bit that I used John Blance's artwork as inspiration.
Gavin Walker
Do you have the models? Pics?
Elijah Cox
You can take a Praetor. Wording says "*may* be taken" regarding a tank as an HQ.
Isaac Ward
really cool and thematic, but apotecharies can only take powerswords, not axes.
Adam Garcia
wheres the helmet from?
Adam Cruz
For those wondering about heads in dreadnoughts this is from Betrayer about a contemptor pattern dreadnought >‘We fashion them with heads,’ Vel-Kheredar was saying, ‘to focus their awareness forwards. It helps create an impression within the corpse’s neurological sensory input/output that it is still alive, for it sees just as it saw in life: from a human perspective. Taller, though. Oh, yes. Much taller.’
Noah Cooper
Scarab Occult terminators - snake on top is from some lizardmen kit, not sure which but probably the ankylosaurus looking one.
Daniel Brown
>referring to the marine inside as a "corpse" while right in front of the dreadnought I love how the mechanicum just doesn't give a fuck.
Jason Peterson
That's what turning into a toaster does to you ; you no longer care about what it is you roast, only that you do.
Dylan King
Way better than anything I could ever do. Looks good bruh, you've done us proud.
Nolan Watson
Yes, in this scene Lhorke, the dreadnought, is reaaally pissed off
Josiah Perry
Somebody convince me to not invest in a small MkII armor themed Space Woofs army. I've already dropped plenty on an all FW AL army and I just got two Predators with conversion beams.
Nicholas Morris
Think of all the hair you'd have to vacuum every time the yiffs shed their fur.
Jason Edwards
Why wouldn't you want to play as the Emperor's Executioners, and the sons of the only loyalist Primarch to get as many kills as Fulgrim?
Jason Nguyen
>as many kills as Fulgrim You mean one?
Easton Sullivan
>many kills as Fulgrim? It's more now
Evan Cook
Dead but ressurected and on life support. Stli coun as kill and can be killed again.
Adrian Diaz
>those are some nice goalposts you have there >it would be a...shame if someone were to move them Friendly reminder that Pertuarbo has as many primarch kills as Fulgrim, having killed Fulgrim's mortal body.
Brandon Bailey
That's 1. Who was the second?
Brandon Scott
Fulgrim only has one you hilarious individual. He didn't kill Guilliman.
Julian Jones
How much black is acceptable in a blood Angel colour scheme?
Logan Jenkins
Bolter and shoulderpad's edges
Nolan Ortiz
Would Deathsworn look better in MkIII or V? III has the heavy frontal assault look to it, but V has more of a "fuck it, you're too far gone by now, here's some crap to wear and an axe, get chopping, boy."
Alexander Gutierrez
Also on destroyers and Moritats
Benjamin Russell
Nope. Probably cost a couple thousand to buy it all. I'll buy the Forgelord and the WE shoulder pads at the end of the month.
Logan James
If put down 120 foot slogging marines with bolters how viable would it?
Grayson Stewart
Keep us updated! The army will look glorious together
Thomas Walker
*Unzips Typhon*
Are you ready to ride the ironfire user?
Sebastian Allen
A few more rations and he'd be chubby like Perty.
Connor Mitchell
Nothing personnel, kid.
Brandon Cook
>Abnett will write the HH finale
Oh boy. Prepare for some new busht out of nowhere. From past experiences I would have preferred Wraight.
Adam Edwards
That Souce Code movie, where the corpse imagined himself as a man in a cold, twisted cockpit due to the lack of sensory input, was also nice. But dreadnoughts do have autosenses, so it'd be inaccurate.
Joseph Davis
tfw u desperately want to write a word bearer novel but you're such a mess you can only seethe about wanting to
also my purple prose is a beast I have trouble constraining
Justin Morris
But how will you kill all those marines if they're hidden in stinky poison smoke?
Grayson Rivera
By Ignoring Cover.
Matthew Thomas
And Armor Saves
Mason Scott
Yeah... that would probably do it.
Jaxson Perez
Cabal fuck yea.
Daniel Scott
How bad could it be, Word Bear boy? Hit us with your best shot.
Oliver Cruz
>the last book in HH will have a horrible rushed ending
Dominic Williams
I have too many images perfect for this. I can't just pic just one.
Camden Harris
Tfw when you want to write anything 30k but you can't ever write more than 20 pages before it falls apart.
I just want to write about AL and NL one upping each other with how sinister and spooky they can get.
Tyler Ramirez
Fleet of traitors arived above terra ...
And then Emperor will destroy Horus with he doesn't love. Then Emperor will stab himself with talon of horus and say "For the Emperor!"
Alexander Gonzalez
Found the Thousand Sons player
Isaiah Smith
Now that he's back writing for BL, the finale should be King's.
Brandon Bell
>Found the every legion except SW player
Dominic Smith
Everyone loves the Space Wolves though, they're so proud, noble and undyingly loyal.
Charles Hall
Angelus scans when?
Camden Torres
A quick thought for mechanicum players (and those taking allied mechanicum): if you're taking a magos prime, consider the malagra as a unit buff-giver, giving preferred enemy to their unit against a lot of stuff: >if one model in unit has PE, entire unit gets it >if one model in target unit is of type PE activates against, all attacks against that unit get the PE rerolls (this is why raven guard's decapitation strike got nastier since the last FAQ) >Malagra has Preferred Enemy (Characters) >almost every non-vehicle unit in a legions astartes or militia army contains a Character (the sergeant, or equivalent) >therefore, a unit containing a Malagra will get PE against a large amount of a LA/militia army
Hunter Campbell
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Ayden Cooper
Fuck yiffs and their players. I'll rather see homebrew 2nd and 11th legions on the table than those fucks.
John Turner
Hello not Bjorn
Jack Clark
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Bentley Green
Quit looking at the camera and go fight Magnus.
Then, show up for Terra if you are so fucking loyal.
Austin Baker
Nigga, that's Geiger the Rad-hand. The greatest of all the VIth's destroyers and a legend in his own time!
Carter Morales
But the Vlka Fenryka are basically the paragon of Astartes, and something all Space Marines should aspire to.
Carter Barnes
>drunk >smelly >fetchy >hairy >furry >hypocrite >poser >fluff written by Phil Kelly
Nah, I pass.
Nolan Murphy
Diorama WIP
Isaac Allen
You forgot >too stupid to wear their helmets
Cooper Clark
Continuing discussion chain.
I feel that's fair criticism, and the suggested rules actually work quite well in practice. I'll go see about putting together a profile sheet
Michael James
If the Emperor had meant Astartes to wear helmets he wouldn't have designed them to spit acid.
Bentley Johnson
>mfw this thread
Xavier Foster
Well, I prefer Ultramarines above them, and I don't like ultrasmurfs.
What else should I add to the worst units list in 30k?
Xavier Foster
>They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me. Like clay I shall mould them, and in the furnace of war forge them. They will be of iron will and steely muscle. In great armour shall I clad them and with the mightiest guns will they be armed. They will be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness will blight them. They will have tactics, strategies and machines so that no foe can best them in battle. They are my bulwark against the Terror. They are the Defenders of Humanity. They are my Space Marines and they shall know no fear. >Except actual space, my SPACE marines fear that because I designed them not to wear helmets
Landon Ortiz
Dakka predator? Boxnought?
Asher Edwards
It's more a last resort thing, not an actual weapon. Just like the sus-as membran is not something meant to be used whenever wherever.
Brandon Hernandez
Non-scorpius whirlwind. It's not only not a scorpius, it also takes up the 0-1 slot for other artillery.
Tyler Perry
>tfw to intelligent for helmets
Carson Carter
>Boxnought Dunno... for 145p you have 2 Volkite Culverins
Carter Roberts
Or DCCW + flamestorm in a pod.
Angel Ortiz
The mortis variant isn't bad either, nice cheap AA, and you can throw a pair of HK missiles on top for when you want to Interceptor something.
Landon Richardson
Wanna talk about crunch or do you wanna bash some other grouping of chucklefucks for their role in the fluff? I'm fine with doing some trash-talking right about now.