Pathfinder General /pfg/

>For that matter, better punish anyone who dares to make an attack roll instead of forcing save-or-loses!

Yeah... because in our party full of gestalt initiators, clearly the thing we need to worry about is how the system interacts with save-or-suck casters.

Ya know, the casters we don't have.

>Crit fumble
Wow, I realize this GM is a fucking retard but I certainly hope pfg games understand how stupid custom critical failure rules.

Not all pfg games are like this right?

Right?

>that salt in the Fluffy2 forum

app.roll20.net/forum/permalink/4691668/

>Nobody is saying it. Everyone is just cool with this? Kon Kon, people who didn't even get selected are showing up and voicing how they feel about this. They got so passionate and wrapped up in the potential of the game, that they come here desperately trying to figure out who's making it in, what's happening in the game, etc etc etc.

>After a month and a half of searching, after a month and a half of getting people to post applications, after a month and a half of brainstorming - you came in, and declared 'haha, just kidding. I'm not gonna run it." Some of those applications took hours, maybe even days. I didn't really care that much. I put in an application while quite high in less than an hour. That's far from the point I'm trying to make.

>I knew this was going to happen. I had a feeling the moment you took the original GM's post, slapped it on your game and said 'okay, here we go!' - you used their carpet, you set up everyone on the carpet, and then you pulled it out from under everyone. Haha. Congratulations. Clap, clap, clap.

>I could forgive you, perhaps, if I knew you took the crew you selected, ran off to an original roll20, and gave everyone a red herring to stop the silliness. If you do come back here to revisit your failure - pick up where you left off. Run the game. People don't expect 'wow, the best fluffy city ever!' - they just wanted a silly game about cute characters doing cute things. And if you don't run the game? You're just an awful person. You made everyone put effort in, only to run away at the last possible second.

>They put in more effort than you did. Isn't that sad?

Myr is pretty, but naw more like this.

Ah okay, so more like 70% dragon and 30% girl?

>deflecting from how objectively terrible critical fumbles are

Meanwhile the people accepted just shrugged and moved on with life.

I use Paizo's critical hit and fumble decks.

I hope tomorrow's WotR selection is as eventful.

And then a week after that with Taldor Ascendant.

I have no idea. While that's what's been posted, the GM might be ok with the opposite? Ask I suppose.

>implying Taldor Ascendant isn't kill

Is your Roll20 tag RgPi by any chance?

>Using comparisons that have nothing to do with the situation.

Come on man, there are good reasons to dislike critical fumbles. Bitching about the martial vs. caster disparity in a game with no real casters is just silly.

Think for a moment before vomiting onto the keyboard.

That's what makes it so good!

I just had my players pick out clothes at a noble outfitter for a ball. Basically it was all combat-ready magic armor carefully made so as to look like super-fancy formal wear. Stuff like:
>removable coats (take off as a move action)
>fancy "battle kilt"
>ornamented pauldrons on lighter wear than the armor you'd normally see them on
>sword-arm-only pauldron with fabric draping down covering a mostly-armored arm
>cape with a wide plated clasp with emblems on it covering the top of the chest
>fine mithril undershirts that maybe hang down from under a fabric dress jacket

It was all basically armor-equivalent. I think this was the document I used for what the armor stats actually were. I provided some similar-value armor bases for each type of armor-wearer in the party (none of them had heavy armor prof so I didn't bother setting up one for that), let them enhance to +2 (except Djezet Skin), then let them pick from a bunch of custom magic abilities that I cribbed from my favourite 3.5 magic items (those being Shadow Cloak, Ring of Spell-Battle and Healing Belt).

So folks, decided to read through all the 3pp kineticist material we've got available.

Kineticist has now hit the 4-archetype-stacking mark: Elemental Scion, War Kineticist, Kinetic Knight, and Roil Dancer all stack, and the all synergize relatively well together. The result is a Strength-based, single-element beatstick/controller with a lot of options for taking on enemies, which I'm honestly rather interested in, because it seems neat.

What are your experiences with the Roil Dancer? It seems reasonable to me. With some of the items in Kineticists of Poryphyra 2 and 3, you could make up for not getting elemental overflow damage. As far as I know, the damage boosts are as follows:

Elemental Scion (ups you one step if you choose to spec into a single blast)
Ring of Elemental Strength (+1 Damage per die)
Vambraces of Overflowing Power (lets you add E. Overflow damage to K. Blade and anything else that doesn't add it normally)

Any thoughts on this? I might attempt building one at some point , if /pfg/ wants to run a game that would accommodate it.

No.

I'm not currently running a game. When I do, they're in person.

The assassin game picked its players today too, but I guess that game fell of the /pfg/ radar long ago

>Have your characters ever worn fancy ball gowns? High heels? Both? What bonuses/penalties would you give for wearing them?

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>Playing pic related at a Great sword wielding Soulknife (male).
>First time playing, as was formerly ForeverGM(tm) and current GM's first time running a game of pathfinder.
>GM decides that it'd be a good idea to have us do a masquerade style ballroom party to schmooze it up with the nobility after we fucked up a red dragon and forced it to fuck off.
>The rest of party, out voting me, decides that my character is arbitrarily cute enough to pass as a woman if he has the right mask and dress.
>My character is the only one without any social skills, but had enough charisma to fake it.
>Everything going well so far. ohshitspoketoosoon.jpg
>A woman wearing a black silk dress and a domino mask walks into the party.
>Every experience I've had with RPGs and video games immediately puts me on guard because to me her very essence screams End Boss.
>She looks around the room for a little bit, spots my character and beelines it to me.
>She hooks her arm around my characters and begins to drag him around as glorified arm candy while she socializes.
>Eventually she drags my character off to a private bedroom.
>Worried that my character is about to be had, I brace to have my character quick-draw my soul weapon and stand against End Boss Lady solo.
>Character get thrown onto the bed by End Boss Lady and has the skirt of his dress flipped up before he could do anything.
>There's a pause.
>End Boss Lady slowly lowers the skirt and looks my character in the eyes.
>She slowly crawls across the bed so that her mouth is level with his ear and her body is pressed up against his.
>She whispers "I'm fine with you being shemale if the dick's good enough."
>Notice that GM has slowly gotten redder and redder over the course of the ballroom scene.
>She suggests we take a ten minute break real quick. Then spends all ten minutes of it in the bathroom.

Good, then you don't matter.

But how cute was he in that dress?

Pfg lost interest in that game after the gm raised enough red flags.

Time has proven them right I guess, the chosen apps are pretty bland with a couple exceptions

I will when I find players who hate PFS and want to try 3pp.

That is adorable.
I hope you didn't embarrass her.

Have you ever seen the ballroom scene from Black Butler when Ciel has to crossdress as a girl?

I didn't mention anything at the time, I was just shocked that even I managed to walk blind right into her magical realm.
She's single and has expressed interest in me in a highly passive aggressive way. So, I'm tempted to get a ball gown and mask so that she could indulge her fetish every once in a while.

>Notice that GM has slowly gotten redder and redder over the course of the ballroom scene.
Wait, this was IRL?

Well don't if you can't pass, that's probably not the same fetish.

how do you even need to ask this

How mandatory is it that my Taninim have a human form?

Haha, fuck. This is why i'm never gonna play with /pfg/. I could call this game melting a mile away.

On the one hand I feel bad for those who get legit excited for these (probably) troll games, on the other hand it feelsbadman that my real game can't generate as much excitement.

You got a link?

How are people ALWAYS so surprised when finding out how obsessive and dedicated furries are? You can make stupid amounts of money as an artist just drawing for furries.

I sure hope Taldor Ascendant isn't kill.

app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/69913/slash-pfg-slash-dragonborn-game

It's a very specialized session, which I'm sure if hurting its appeal, but I still think I could tell a good story for y'all regardless.

New to pathfinder.

What's the general relationship between dwarves and halflings?

Dom/sub

Interesting.

If I come up with something good, I'll be sure to post.

Oh lordy, that's kind of what I was hoping for.

To add, my character is a dwarf, what is the general manner in which a dwarf would treat a halfling? Elves and their twinkletoes fairy boy bullshit is pretty obvious.

Usually none.

In golarion at least, dwarves and halflings rarely have any form of contact.

>abloobloobloo I didn't get into the game so I'll shitpost about it with smug anime pictures instead: the post

So, if I were a dim-witted uncouth and oblivious dwarf, I might think that a halfling was a human child and treat her as such? Like, my character would be like, "What is this little girl doing in a bar? Her lassy, take a shot of this, it'll put some hair on your chest! What you do you like, flowers and possies? Still manly than an elf?"

I'm replaying a scenario so I know that this will come up, so I need some direction, if not an actual plan for how to RP it.

>I might think that a halfling was a human child and treat her as such

It's certainly possible.

Play your character and not your race.

>still no defense for critical fumbles

Well, with everything that I am making this character to be, that is exactly what he would do, which is why I'm trying to figure out if there might be underlying cultural currents to take in consideration to make a more well-rounded character.

My group uses them because the DM game from a group that used them because his DM came from a group that used them...

to add, the other option that I was thinking of was making advances on her.

I once had a halfling and a Dwarf in my party. They both had a running gag that the other was shorter than them. This lead to vicious name calling and short puns by the both of them.

Years of stress from stunty jokes finally had an outlet for the both of them.

I don't even utilize them and I'll say that the occasional crit-fail makes things more interesting user.

>pass up on a quest where a party goes to retrieve the eggs of Roc because I was busy
>watch the session from time to time
>the party of players that went without me saw the tracks of another group of adventurers going to the same nest
>GM even points out that from their current route, said group can even observe their movements if they had the equipment
>party ignores and keeps pressing on
>They get fired on from above by the other group despite all the GM warnings and then have to retreat

...How the heck can players be that dense? Did they just assume the other group will be cooperative?

It also dicks over TWF for no reason.

And natural weapon builds. And throwing builds. And unarmed builds. And to some extent ranged builds. Everyone but THF and sword-and-board gets fucked by it, and one of those is fucking sword-and-board. Even one-handed styles include heavy use of counterattacks so they're still about hitting more instead of hitting hard.

Because "another group of adventurers can see you" does not automatically equate to "get rekt nerds lololololol"?

Yes, they probably did assume they wouldn't just get ambushed. Who the fuck would assume that unless they knew their GM to be an utter dick?

>join an online campaign
>my character and another's get close
>after chatting with them between RPs so often, start to realise I'm having OOC feelings for them
>falling in love with them
>in love with them
>they love me back, too
>opposite sides of the world

Frankly, I would assume that if only because there's always that joke that adventurers are groups of murderhobos, but even then that has some grain of truth in it

Roc eggs are also noted to be a quite rare and expensive commodity if anything, so I'd expect some competition

I've been there.

Worst feeling in the world.

>Falling in love with other players

That assumption can--and should--only come if the GM has firmly established it. "Adventurers are murderhobos as a rule in my setting" should be laid out in plain language, not "There's other guys here AND THEY KILL YOU KEKEKEKEKEKEKE"

Oh, you're right. Here's the defense - you're not in the game. If you are you could bitch about them and get kicked out, but you're not, so you can just whine impotently on an anonymous imageboard, and they're not going to stop using crit fumbles.

Eh, given the GM in question, I guess it should be an unspoken rule in general

He's generally a cool and nice guy but his paranoia when hes playing as a PC can be amazing. Not to mention how he actually has the book of Maxims of Maximally Effective Mercs from Schlock's Mercenaries

>still no defense for crit fumbles

Uh, no? You're two parties going to the same location, possibly to acquire the same valuables. The chance of you getting into conflict is pretty damn high.

Roc eggs are worth thousands. That's more than enough for some people to kill for.

To be fair it's probably not a huge hinderance to pure casters. I mean who cares if you're in heels if you're floating around with Overland Flight?

The party enjoys having them in play. Ta-daaaa.

It's the best and the worst feeling.

And not one I can help.

Look man you just gotta accept that some people play by shit rules. I mean, we're all using Pathfinder so this shouldn't be hard to grasp.

Crit fumbles are fine if you only allow the first roll in a round to have the chance. I mean it still fucks over mundanes more than casters but the mundanes will generally be the ones receiving the enemies' melee attacks, resulting in either neutral or net gain if they're usually outnumbered.