Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1363: Messing with Canon Edition

Mark of the Ninja
Elona
I suppose Fallen London?
Castlevania may be a bit higher than normal but I haven't seen any conversation over it ever
Sly Cooper
Ruroni Kenshin/Samurai X
Lego is pretty cool but it might accidentally swing a bit higher than expected

I dunno, that sounds like a pro to me. The jingles are catchy.

SHABADOOBIE TOUCH TO HENSHIN!
SHABADOOBIE TOUCH TO HENSHIN!
SHABADOOBIE TOUCH TO HENSHIN!
SHABADOOBIE TOUCH TO HENSHIN!

I can't see that ever getting old!
>pic related is my companions' reactions

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ASA pretty much got this, yeah. It's pretty much impossible in-setting.

After 5 millenia, the Yozi themselves have three plans that have a shot at working:
>The Reclamation, by the Ebon Dragon. This is the most detailed one... but also the one that requires by far the most setup, as well as the luck to get 50 Solar Exaltations to help with it. While it has been detailed in the Return of the Scarlet Empress book (so it's technically possible to pull off), it'd be damn hard to corrupt the Blessed Isle/entire world enough to make it feasible.
>Szoreny's plan. Basically amounts to snitch on the Reclamation, and negotiating for the information with the Sun.
>Cytherea's plan. She's doing something weird with geomancy. Very little info on that.

>Kind of an awkward question, but how much does the Heart of Green Iron from Infernals actually boost you? Like, what difference are we looking at if we take a basic bitch Infernal and give that to him?
Well, it's "4 dots" of strength and stamina. Kind of hard to quantify...

It'd put someone literally handicapped in those (like, the strength of a toddler) to peak human.

But a basic bitch Infernal with average human stats (2 in both), would be boosted to slighty superhuman in those?

And then it'd scale up if you're stronger than that.

>1. Can you use Blood of T'Foor Na on yourself
Sure.

>2. Can you use it to give non-Exalted natives Enlightened Essence?
Also sure.

Mostly unrelatedly, probably a Lunars WIP pdf in a few hours when I have more time.

Would you think multiclassing in a D&D jump would make it harder to improve like it does in the game?

If you are the equivalent of a level 10 in one class and level 1 in a second would it be harder to grow in the second class than if you didn't have the first class?

>Do ships replenish ammunition, fuel, and other misc. consumable resources post jump?

You get the schematics for ammo and other consumables. Fuel replenishes weekly post-jump.

>Also, isn't the Beagle Point location a death sentence for anyone who isn't an explorer with a fuel scoop?

Some starting locations are more challenging than others, yes.

>Why are some of the best Exploration ships Undiscounted, instead of discounted for Explorer the origin that is lacking in discounted ships?

Because those are multirole ships. Cobra could also be in combat, and so could the Anaconda - but they could also be in trading. If you're talking about the Asp, I'm flying one for combat right now.

Will reupload with a notes section that covers this. Anything else?

>And then it'd scale up if you're stronger than that.
>Sure.
>Also sure.
Awesome.

>Lunars WIP
Double awesome.

Thanks, Mardukth.

Besides the fact that you'll be splitting your attention between multiple fields, probably not. I mean, there's even good odds multiclassing with stuff that has a lot of overlap will make you advance faster.

Unless you got it from a jump running on game mechanics. Pretty sure we've got one of those, somewhere. In which case: RIP.

Depends on how literally the jump treats it. The FR one is pretty gamey, so probably there.

Otherwise... Well, the reason is harder to level up is because it's based around your total per level, so if you could just multiclass and gain fast levels by relying on your main class, things would break horribly.

Personally, I just replace XP with actual experience and time-spent, rather than it being some arbitrary metaphysical reward for burning down kobold orphanages.

What resurrection magic has the least limits on it in jumpchain? Convenient resurrection powers can to solve a lot of issues that crop up in some settings.

Neverwinter Nights question,
The Divine magic Capstone is supposed to make you the equal of a lvl 6-8 Divine Caster, that said do you or do you not have to buy the Divine Blessings to get the class features?

The Arcane Capstone looks like it gives the full capacity of an arcane caster but Divine seem to need additional purchases to get what their class should offer, if you want a druid you would need to pay 700 which makes it impossible for a companion to even be one!

You've said before that stuff that would allow you to just walk out is restricted, but what about stuff that helps other people out and could never help you (at least not directly) in the first place? Stuff like planar banishing/summoning/etc.

>The kitchen.
I love cooking. Often times i will cook so much that i could feed a small town. Pure hedonism comes out of that kitchen.
>The Battlefield
nothing better than wartime.
>The beach
In a hammock, sipping on some juice.
When you're above peak human/ below below average human.
Whenever I can.
>Magic
At this point, space is the only place i can do it repeatedly, and safely. Too widepread.
>Physical
I've run out of heavy enough things to pick up and put down. I think there's a perk somewhere for a gym that scales with you. No idea where though. Then again physical training is pointless for me really. It's just fun.
>Tech
Whenever i feel like it. Also how I train Magic and Psychic ability through emitters and mechanisms
Slanted writing sucks.
Avatar. The bending arts adapt to fighting styles very easily.
A sharp piece of glass, a heavy rock, a big stick...
The Fucking Musician jump.

That's only when the Driver is involved tho. I'm pretty certain her jewel magecraft can bypass the need for a driver. However, she still has the KaleidoStick somewhere, so I'm gonna see if it can't help me out with messing with Rin and her Wizard Rings.

Oh, there's another crazy thing I noticed here as well.

> Me + SOLU + Cosmic Mind + Never Gonna Say Goodbye + Missing Piece + First Magic

Dunno if Digger realized what he had done unleashing KR on to the Jumpchain, but I'm going to be forever thankful to him.

AND SPEAK OF THE DEVIL!

THAAAAANK YOOOOUUUUU DIGGER-SAMA!!

That's how I imagine the girls (except for Mami, bless her heart) react whenever I get all excited and go:

> Girls! It's Show Time!
> Astartes: Book of the Dawn Sky Set!

> Saeko: ...*sigh*
> Io: *facepalm*
> Rin: *embarrassed Tsun*
> Mami: HAI! *beaming*

> Cue team transformation, four Magical Girls and a Magical Boy.

What kills Rin a little inside is that like this, we're all actually insanely powerful. But...well, Magical Girls led by a Magical Boy.

If Manyfist is around, Does Haven from Vampire: The Requiem follow you between jumps?

>but what about stuff that helps other people out and could never help you (at least not directly) in the first place?
Not sure what you mean?

>Stuff like planar banishing/summoning/etc.
You'd still be able to summon stuff, yeah? Not sure where you'd be banishing things to though?

But things like just planeshifting out or opening a portal wouldn't work.

He was 61 years old.

Twister jump when?

Magicka has Revive, which is mentioned in-jump as 'the honey-badger of ressurection spells'.

Why are you telling him to use a non-canon powergrab from an SB jump?

So it can be easily defeated by golden eagles?

Kindly do not use my post to springboard your bullshit argument.
And here's your (You).

...so. I was thinking about stargate. And someone mentioned a torchwood gauntlet the other day.

Would you be okay with me redoing stargate into a gauntlet? I don't really know what you've banned, but it would probably include a lot more stuff, in exchange for increased suffering.

I'm not looking for an argument, I'm just stating fact. Magicka was made by someone from Spacebattles. The note on Revive being the ultimate "fuck you, death" spell is unsupported by the game itself and added only to power it up. It's unofficial thread policy not to use such things, or at least to not talk about them if you do use them.

Don't Dr McNinja and Axecop involve lots of scifi bullshit?

And S&H involves Space Laser Wolves, so yeah around the same metric.

I'm perfectly aware of what I did
All shall walk the path of karate bugmen

Sick, I love this stuff.

If all shall walk the path of karate bugmen, then we need a way to ensure everyone becomes a karate bugman. KAMEN RIDER CHRONICLE WILL BE COMPLETED. EVERYONE MUST TATAKAE.

Is actually safe to jump Dragonblooded early? Mostly because infernals, abyssals and solars coming back to fuck everything

Oh, did I say "later today"? I meant in an hour.

I clarified something about Briedabilk. You may summon someone as long as you have made a deal with them and you are in the multiverse of the setting.

So, for example, if you made a deal with Superman, you could summon him in any DC settings otherwise with the gun but you can't summon him in the Nasuverse or Marvelverse.

V. 9 Made formatting changes, moved Fat Owl Friend to Items, reworded some perks and added more undiscounted items. Rearranged the notes, made Rain of Swords 50 CP instead of 100 CP, added Reach Through Walls, changed the pricing of Don’t Get Attached, added some more drawbacks. Added OC Companions.

Let's say you're a fighter, who decided to take up wizardry. It's going to be a different thing all together excercising your brain and learning draconic than learning how to use a weapon. If you're focusing more on Rogue skills, then it'll be a lot easier. You probably picked up a lot the skills before hand.

>redoing stargate into a gauntlet
Why?

Wait, I took out Reach Through Walls. Whoops. That statement should not be in there.

Well, Creation is an inherently dangerous place, so "safe" probably isn't the best word. But if you look at the jump, it does drop you in with time to run away from all the really nasty shit. I recommend heading to the North. There's nothing really bad going on up north.

Believe me, I've been about as hype about the concept of Kamen Rider Chronicle as a story element as anyone. Granted Tatakae is BAD, or at least morally it is, but as a story thing a worldwide tatakae where everyone gets a driver and a gashat is pure sex.
I figure once the Heiseis are complete I can finally get to work on the Kamen Rider Neo-heisei DLC, and expanding the DLC to be inclusive to the now-complete Neo Heisei saga
AKA If Fight for the Future happens it'll have Kamen Rider Chronicle as a thing.
It helps I found a shitton of OC stuff, including the possible 'Level 2' versions of stuff like Jet Combat, Dangerous Zombie and my personal favorite: Gekitotsu robots.

So, do you think that Kamen Rider Chronos is going to be Dan's final form, to make up for how he's falling behind in power to the higher levels? Or is it going to be someone completely different using the Kamen Rider Chronicle Gashat, to go with the "everyone will be Kamen Rider" thing?

Would "healing" the Yozi mentally/spiritually be worth it? If I take Prison Break, would I need Peer of Hell to talk to them, or would they be a bit more willing than usual to meet with me? Would a single Yozi have a decent chance at breaking through /from/ the outside?

Eh, you have 6 years until the "current year" of the setting.

So as long as you don't join up for the Tepet Legions or do something stupid to spark a civil war early... You're relatively safe.

The Infernals, Abyssals, and Solars aren't liable to do /that/ much in just the 4-year timeframe after that.

Yes.

What? No! Create something NEW.

That sounds glorious, Digger. A conflict truly worthy of being called a Rider War.

TATAKAE on, my friend TATAKAE on.

Chronos is probably going to be Dan's final form, but I wouldn't be surprised if Dan's dad ends up using it or someone else.

It seems like we're going to get more info about Dan's backstory in Episode 21.

Well as I've stated before, anyone's free to try and remake stuff: archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51491202/#51494498

It's not like my last attempt to update the jump was successful in any way if you take a look at the archives. archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/49137385/#49138308 So nothing's stopping you from taking a crack at it. If thread approves of it, then it'll be fine and dandy.

Does Buy Menu from Counterstrike work on... natural weapons? ;^)

You know you need a companion slot for the Seed of life from the universe right?

I wouldn't say it's unreasonable as long as attempts were made to make it usable by beings other than their owners.

Am I seriously the only one who Makes a point of shooting the bad guy with a regular every day gun Before he can transform and then taking his gimmick?

Red, how does this line in GoW's Finder's Keepers work?

>Though if you study the parts enough, you could maybe incorporate them into yourself! Of course, there is a caveat: You must have been the one to kill them in the first place.

Do you just... hold the parts next to the relevant places on your body and then absorb them? Look at it and then slowly gain its traits? Use divine energies to mold your body to match?

Nope. Check the Kamen Rider Neo-Heisei Part 1 Jump.

> The Power Cosmic, 600cp, discounted for Drop In: Space…a wondrous world filled with infinite cosmic energy. A mysterious power, its greatest ability seems to be creation. It forms mass and advanced technology from seemingly nothing, and now that power is in your hands. You are infused with the nature of SOLU, or the “Seeds of Life from the Universe.” This substance is able to use cosmic energy to replicate and even enhance technology!

>SOLU, or the “Seeds of Life from the Universe.” This substance is able to use cosmic energy to replicate and even enhance technology!

Oh okay I thought you meant an actual SOLU,not a perk. My bad.

>redoing [jump] into a gauntlet
That's not how it works.
Gauntlets do not replace or lock out mainstream jumps.
You can make a gauntlet, but that won't remove Stargate from the drive.

Didn't put a lot of thought into it. So probably something like you doing research on the body part and figure out how i works before a mix of the first and third. Probably. I'm not going to judge if you have a different method.

It is used in setting to resurect someone from everything from being vaporized, to exploded, to hurled into an infinite void, to being logged out, to being eviserated, to being set on fire, to being eletrocuted, to drowning, to loss of blood, to being turned to stone, to spontaneously bathing, to having your head turned inside out, to being eaten, and thats not even a quarter of the stuff! MOST OF THAT IS FRIENDLY FIRE.

No baby dimension?

...

Digger? A question about Proper Facilities. Does it have to be staffed? To be honest I'd imagine Rin and I would rather have our Research as private as possible.

No worries man.

Previously on Jumpchain
>How much do you think dropping a watermelon on someone's head would hurt?
Now back to the 'chain.

user's bizarre adventure #3:
VA-11 HALL-A
- Hell yeah, this chill-ass game is great! I'd recommend it to , too.

Drop-in, age: 23
- Bartender sounds like the best job. Time to Mix drinks and change lives.

Race: Cat Boomer
- Is being a catgrill too much to ask?

Time to Mix drinks and change lives
Theatrics (900)
Big bossu (700)
- Street cred is useful in a lot of places.

Kotatsu
Deed to a bar (400)
BTC beverage kit (300)
Collection of old and obscure liqour (100)
- Hey, a lot of people out there in the universe need a good drink, and Tartarus's gates are willing to provide.

The devil's hands

Import (-100)
Mary: (digital security)
Race: Human
Age: 23
Script kiddie, Danger/u/s, 2 idiots, one keyboard
Turing computing add-on
Lilim (-200)
Dal: (Investigator)
adult body, age: 4
socialiser specialty
columnist, Noir world, veteran of the psychic wars
- Don't mention 2001.
crafty corgis (0)
- I'm going to look at dogs in a whole new light after this jump, aren't I?

Working at Vallhalla was quite the experience. You know the people you serve in the game? that was just the tip of the iceberg.
Everyone I served was interesting. One in particular, was Dal.

A loud, foul-mouthed lilim, you wouldn't think of him as an incredibly good detective.
Well, he was. Actually, the best one I've ever met.
I think he was made as a lie detector, because he saw even the tiniest tells, it was nearly supernatural. But his attitude usually didn't get him too many customers.

A little after the main story ended, I just left. Most of that period of time was uneventful, until I found a place to put Tartarus's Gates.
And Dal somehow found the place. never asked him to explain, just greeted him with a beer.
Mary never did find the wonderlanders, so she just started her own group, the black rabbits.

[continued]

>redoing someone else's jump
>making it into a gauntlet
Are you literally (and I mean that in the correct way) high?

But user, if he's remaking Stargate then that would be the new Stargate jump.

Now that that's that, it's-
-Wait, a second, is that the benefactor? what's she doing he-
>I didn't send you on a vacation, you bum! I want to see some combat!
oh hell.

Next time on jumpchain!: Bloodshed!

Yes, please. The sooner we get that trash off the drive the better.

Dude said gauntlet.
Gauntlet ≠ Jump

I doubt this will come to a head anyway. Stuff like this is always bluster.
And even if it does, the thread still has to accept it, and I doubt that anything he makes will match what we already have.

Not all of the bad guys DO transform, honestly.
I'd even go so far as to say wholly human enemies aren't that common.
The sonozakis seem to be able to call their power from human form, the GREEEDO were pretty much nonhuman monstrosities from the start, Gotou has the same deal as the Sonozakis and appears to be able to access his power from human mode
Wizard is unclear
The Roidmudes are robots
The Ganma are eye demons from another dimension
dan is the only guy who's actually human at any point before the bad shit goes down

Squirrel and Hedgehog! Jump 085:
CP: 1000
Drawbacks:
Reality Ensues [+800]
Location: Flower Hill
Origin: Russia [-50]
Perks:
Attitude Adjustment [Free]
Survival Tips [Free]
Winter Soldier [-100]
Bear Necessities [-200]
Determined Beast [-300]
Undercover [-200]
Through Superior Firepower [-200]
Gear:
Uniform [Free]
Sidearm [Free]
Survival Pack [Free]
Booze Bottle [-100]
Garden Bed [-150]
Data Core [-300]

My Unit, Sir! [-200]

I could handle the fact that myself and the group were bears. I could handle the fact that the American’s were Sci-Fi level in their technology and could at any point have pulled our asses our of our mouths were it not for the simple fact that this world was heavily leaned in North Korea’s favor before this. I could even take the fact that the Bottle I bought just to use up the last bit of CP was netting me some impressive frowns from my companions. I could even handle the nigh world war that I’d accidentally started. However...

“I kan't stand zis accent! Arrrrghh ! Why vould you inforrce something like zis! Arrrrghh !?” I ground out as me and the others walked from our civilian plane towards Russia proper. Hopefully the war in NK would take a bit of time before it got to Mother Russia as with the inventiveness of the Americans and with the Data Core in hand I could hold onto the hope that we would be able to upgrade the motherland into a state where we could defend against the kinds of assaults I'd witness in Korea. Soon I feared that his war would spread out of control, a decade was a long time to drag out a war this small, but thankfully the economy might get a boost out of this.

>Gauntlet ≠ Jump
Pretty sure SOMA, Clustertruck, Decade, Ryuki, and other things say otherwise.

Either way, let's see where this goes.

>Wizard is unclear
The bad guys come from inside people / are inside people / are dead people / are not dead but dead people / are fucking rocks.

Choose one...or two...or all. Fucked if I know mate.

>The sonozakis

okay I'm going to have to disagree with you there, they used driver belts and everything,sure they had some access to their abilities, but not their physical abilities in human form.

But otherwise yes I know most of those since I've seen most The episodes from those seasons, except for the second halves of wizard and ghost. my Jumper's thing is being an out of context problem and that means Disobeying genre conventions.

and that old man definitely like to monologue

Why does this one thing trigger you so much?

I'm sure other jumpers have used guns in settings where guns are restricted, it's just not that fun tho

Most Gauntlets are for settings that really wouldn't fit under normal jump circumstance.
SOMA is just an undersea base in a post-apocalyptic world. There's nothing else, almost everyone is dead or an insane robot. And 95% of the plot occurs over the course of like a few hours or days. And when the plot is finished, there's absolutely nothing else to do but sit and twiddle your thumbs.
Clustertruck is literally just trucks. That's fukken it. Trucks.

Stargate is a complex setting with uncounted worlds to explore and innumerous people to meet.
There's war, drama, adventure, love – and that's before you get to the actual plot.
A Gauntlet would not do it justice.
Regardless of how it turns out, I'm sticking with your jump. Not out any kind of loyalty, but because 99 times out of 100, a any jump beats any Gauntlet any day.

>Fight for the Future
>DLC
My body is not ready for this

fair enough.

also questions about Gaim: I took Go to Hel,does that mean I still have access to Invess since I have access to the forest? also, what kind of Enhancements do the Invess Summoned by the harvest and starfruit Lockseed have?
Thirdly my driver has all lot of cosmic energy since I'm using the Functions of the driver from disgaia as a capacitor for it , so it can handle the energies in the Shard Switch. does the star fruit cause it to go full Meteor Nadeshiko Fusion States or how does that work?

Part of my rage is overexaggerated on purpose for comedic effect. It actually doesn't bother me all that much, but I don't like the deeprealms.

Okay, here's a crash course on why I don't like them and I won't offer them (You totally can go get one if you have a way to grab bubble dimensions, I'm just not going to be offering them. I didn't make the Fates jump anyway)

In Fire Emblem Awakening (The game before Fates), they had a mechanic where you could get child units. It was a neat mechanic, and time travel was a big part of the game's plot. They all waited, like reasonable people, to have a baby until after the war, thus time travel to get the units.

This mechanic was super popular, so they decided to bring back the mechanic in Fates. But you see, there was no time travel in Fates's plot. So, how could they pop out units? Surely, they could just ignore this mechanic and just not put it in? Nope.

They had a (shitty) solution: The deeprealms. The in-plot explanation (By the way, the deeprealms aren't relevant, like, at all to the game's main plot unless you count a DLC where you can't even use your child units in that DLC, so it's moot.) was that since they were in a war, they couldn't safely raise a kid. So they put the kids in the deeprealms, which were pocket dimensions where time was accelerated in them for some inexplicable reason. Within months, you'd have a fully grown human being. Yes, this is as fucked up as it sounds and they even address this in-game with some of the kids, who are understandably VERY angry at their parents for doing this.

The kicker is that you could go through the entire game without needing any child units or even have this brought to your attention because it's not relevant at all to the plot, while in Awakening it's explicit that Lucina is from the future and she has a tearful reunion with Chrom and her mom.

It was basically a poorly written excuse. Fire Emblem Fates in general has the worst plot.

I can confirm this. It's never fun when the guns have to be brought out, because that's a sign of Serious Time.

Serious Time means people will die, often not knowing who killed them and why. Serious Time means no moralities, no feelings, just pure logic and cause and effect.

My Companions and I don't like Serious Time and when it is all over, we hold a wake for everyone we killed during that time. Then vanish for the rest of the jump somewhere where we spend a lot more time than usual cuddling each other. It usually takes 2 years to get out of this funk, but those 2 years tend to be quiet and somber.

Lol, that's one of her dumbest things I've ever read.

My jumper had to do that once. Wasn't very fun, indeed.

Please tell me more, I want to understand , I want to be more like you.

>Would "healing" the Yozi mentally/spiritually be worth it?
Probably? They were never really all that great for other beings, but they were a hell of lot less actively malevolent when they weren't consumed with hate and spite all the time. Except the Ebon Dragon.

>If I take Prison Break, would I need Peer of Hell to talk to them, or would they be a bit more willing than usual to meet with me?
They'd be just as willing to talk to you as a normal Infernal, so if you want to convince them of things like working together, you might want Peer of Hell.

>Would a single Yozi have a decent chance at breaking through /from/ the outside?
Probably not a lot more of a shot? It'd probably be easier that normal with the oaths not applying to them, but those that still need to get out are still shackled by them.

I can't stop laughing over the face that this post caused both this response and this response . It's like art in motion.

To each their own. I'm just of the mind that taking lives should never be easy or off-handed.

For survival? Sure, you did what you needed to do.

Actually planning out who to kill and when for a specific purpose? That's a whole other kettle of fish.

Read above. There's nothing more to it.

Mostly I mean that it kinda kills most of the appeal of the setting where guns are either useless or unable to be used with impunity since the people involved are civilians and/or teenagers in japan(such as Fourze)
So yeah, I get "shoot 'em with a gun"
It probably does overdrive it to use the starfruit
and...uh..no idea about enhancements for harvest lockseed.

Not that user, but I think you're laboring under the misconception that all life is sacred.
It's not.
Bad people should die. End of story. If you're the only one powerful enough to do it, you should. You don't necessarily need to enjoy it, but you shouldn't regret it.
It'd be akin to regretting saving people from a burning building.

Maybe, but it seems less like you're treating killing with the gravity it deserves and more like you're engaging in ignominious circlejerking and hugboxing with your companions because you were forced to commit lebadz killing ohnoes spare your virgin eyes. 2 years to "get out of this funk" is absolutely uneccessary, and if you're holding a wake for everyone you killed, they're likely not people you should have killed in the first place. Also, the appellation "Serious Time" is utterly disrespectful, and it's absurd that someone would have special names for their massacres.

This is probably one of those cases where context matters.

Settle down easy jim

It's time for some Taliban serious time! But let's face it, user probably has never killed a man before, and user won't be living for hundreds of years, killing on the side. How can he treat killing with gravity if he can only speculate how he'd react after however many kills?

>The Reclamation, by the Ebon Dragon. This is the most detailed one... but also the one that requires by far the most setup, as well as the luck to get 50 Solar Exaltations to help with it. While it has been detailed in the Return of the Scarlet Empress book (so it's technically possible to pull off), it'd be damn hard to corrupt the Blessed Isle/entire world enough to make it feasible.

So it's not likely to happen during an actual Exalted jump? I was kind of assuming that whole thing was going to crop up at some point, but this makes things easier.

>Szoreny's plan. Basically amounts to snitch on the Reclamation, and negotiating for the information with the Sun.

What's even his deal beyond being a giant reflective forest? I was hoping to screw over the Reclamation as much as possible from the inside and Szoreny seems like a good angle. Would helping him backfire horribly somehow?

I'm somewhat of the same mind, but I think remorse and guilt are things you don't have much control over. You can logic it out, but it's not something you can will one way or the other.

At the same time though, what describes just sounds strange. To me, if you're gonna make up your mind, plan out a premeditated murder or assassination or massacre or what have you and follow through, you clearly think killing whoever you killed was the right idea. You came to terms with the fact you were taking those lives and thought it was the right thing to do (in this context anyways). If you've done this enough to actually give it its own name, this should not leave this much of an impact, like at all.

First time you killed someone for the greater good? Yeah, that's gonna hurt a lot I think, might continue to hurt for a while as you continue the practice. At some point though it's just not gonna hurt for years on end where you're basically nonfunctional. It's not some edgelord "lives mean nothing" thing, it's the internalization that you're doing the right thing and even if you feel remorse, you know things are better now even if you did something you feel bad about.

That's the type of mindset that develops, not "retire for years every time to shower each other in so much love and affection we forget the trauma that we forced upon ourselves".

Armchair murderers need their sob sob cry cry moments to cope with the trauma.

okay, so what do you do when There is someone like the Joker who can't reasonably contained and is a clear and present danger?
okay, but don't evil lives have a negative Value?