>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list. mtgcommander.net
>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices. tappedout.net
>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck. mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the the internet. edhrec.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity. manabasecrafter.com/
The way I beat Grand Orbiter was she played Winter Orb which didn't affect me that much but ya she lost to her own card
Brayden Davis
Ok.
Adrian Evans
The artwork on this card looks OP
Liam Cook
>painted over the mana cost
what a shame
Aaron Cruz
Man, Mark Tedin's style has changed a ton.
Henry Russell
>Winter Orb >Only Orb has wrinkles >Emrakul >Everything has wrinkes
Yeah, style sure has changed. His old person skin fetish has enhanced over the years.
Leo Thompson
Is zirlian of the claw as fun as he looks?
Zachary Flores
He's pretty fun, I think scion of the UR dragon is more fun though
Andrew Hughes
Having built both, I would say Zirilan is more fun since he's a toolbox. Scion is just a flowchart of a deck with only like 3 actual dragons.
Mason Collins
>claims to prefer the fun of a toolbox dragon deck >built his scion deck as a net deck combo goodstuff deck instead of a sweet dragon toolbox
That's on you my man
I built it as a sweet dragon toolbox and reanimator deck
Adam Edwards
>Zirilan of the Claw Oh man, I'm getting flashbacks of my very first, completely not legit, magic deck of printed out proxies. So good. So bad.
Jason Harris
Z-Daddy is fucking rad. I ran him for a while and it was a lot of fun. Getting ways of cheating out multiple dragons and slapping the shit out of someone is a great feeling. Especially when you have ways of making sure the Dragons don't get exiled
Ethan Foster
>netdeck Fuck off.
Jason Cox
They're monocolored retards.
Landon Cooper
>Anput without black Christ I hope not.
Christopher Rogers
>Manly Muscle Men edition Anyone have a list from the thread a few years ago to make the manliest EDH deck?
Ryder Kelly
Are you the same guy? In confused as fuck. I have no problem with net decking, researching successful decks is good. I just don't understand why somebody would claim that zirilan is more fun purely because it's less spikey, when you can build a deck as spikey as you want
Brandon Watson
And MM17 will contain no reprints. My dad is John Gamefreak so he knows.
Jacob Jones
It's about Wizards' art direction dumbass. They won't print a major story-important Mythic with misleading colors in its art.
Caleb Adams
i think it would be funny as fuck if the amonkhet gods are wedge colored when everyone expect shards. then the next sets gods are shard colors.
Dylan Gomez
You must be a blast to play commander with.
Sebastian Richardson
If I cast Consulate Crackdown while Mycosynth Lattice is out, everything non-artifact stays in exile right?
Chase Gutierrez
I alternate between ultra-jank and spikeshit using convincing Chinese proxies so yeah, I'm a blast.
Ian Brooks
I have no idea how to Jund.
Matthew Torres
Xenagos is definitely my favorite. Objectively GOAT
Noah Wright
Reread Consulate Crackdown. It says "If the exiled cards aren't artifact cards, manifest them."
Jace Taylor
YOU'RE a monocolored retard.
Blake Myers
>Step 1: Sacrifice for effects >Step 2:
Landon Sullivan
What are you smoking user?
Caleb Fisher
I must admit, I'm confused with their artworpk. The color themes aren't very specific, and kind of samey. It's hard to pin down what their colors will be.
Pic related looks Mardu to me, but I know that's not it
Hunter Thomas
>purple robes >black clouds reflecting the red of the sunset mostly covering the blue sky >they're monocolor >they wouldn't put misleading colors in the art Okay
Christian Collins
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Nolan Nguyen
Is this the MtG general? If not could someone point me to it
Dominic Sanders
No, those cards are just exiled until it leaves the battlefield ig the second clause said >return all artifacts exiled by CC to the battlefield under their owners control then they would stay
Owen Price
Are you new to the game? There isn't really a single general there is one for the most popular formats
Dylan Jenkins
Okay well i have a noob question
David Nguyen
I'm thinking of using pic related as a replacement for Thopter Spy Network, do you think anyone would be autistic enough to demand I play with the regular version?
John Lee
>purple lightning >purple clouds >red clouds >blue clouds >blue sky in the background Seems pretty fucking spot on for UR user.
Charles Wilson
I'd honestly be amazed and wouldn't require you to do so, just to watch you resolve it as written. Be sure to bring a bag of skittles or smth.
Jayden Butler
What are the best blue and black creatures to abuse blinking effects with?
Nathan Wood
Creatures with strong ETB triggers.
Michael Sullivan
Gray Merchant.
Thomas Campbell
Rune-scarred demon, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Gonti Lord of Luxury, Palinchron, Scourge of Fleets, Diluvian / Sepulchral Primordial.
Gavin Perry
shoot
Jose Brooks
Kederekt Leviathan + Necromancy
Kayden Bailey
Does blue have any decent options for dealing with enchantments outside of bouncing stuff to hand?
Adrian Howard
Counterspells dude, there are a few colorless things though like nev's disk and all is dust/scour from existence
Xavier Green
We may or may not be helpful. However if you can catch an "ask a judge" thread GA will almost certainly help you.
Isaiah Cooper
Well I asked in the Modern thread but thanks for being willing to help
Is there any advice you can give someone just starting out? Like any advice or tips that you would only know after playing for a while?
Hudson Hall
Buy singles.
Kevin Phillips
Don't be afraid to use life as a resource. The only point that matters is the last one. This is especially true in Commander, but it applies to all formats equally.
Anthony Smith
Well first off is don't buy random packs and don't buy other sealed product unless you do research and ask around. Only time it's worth buying packs is draft/sealed because you get play experience out of it basically if you're building a deck. Second is make sure you have people to play with and ask them to help with getting into their format or building a casual deck. 3rd and last I will say is never be afraid to ask about rules or anything, unless whoever you're playing is obviously a mega autist most magic players are happy to explain things to a new player
Benjamin Walker
I think we're on the same side of this argument, my dude.
Nolan Allen
Get a friend to start playing with you, it really helps. Otherwise, play a free program like Forge to learn the basics WHILE reading the various tutorials Wizards has on their websites, since those programs don't have tutorials. It's critical to learn the rules of the game properly. When actually playing paper Magic, learn which cards are worth money. You don't want to be the guy who passes a $20 mythic in favor of some random uncommon. Play Friday Night Magic drafts, and ask the owner to match you up against other new players if possible. I think other than that, make an effort to show up consistently to FNM. Regular attendance and being friendly will let you make friends with other regulars easily. Just don't be afraid to avoid anyone who treats you like shit.
Matthew Murphy
I think I responded to your comment in that thread
Noah Johnson
Is playing pic related considered poor form? I have Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker built and it slots in ridiculously well. I figure if people are going to play cards like Iona against me I should also get to play cards that prevent them from playing the game.
Jordan Rogers
It's exactly as fair as Iona and although people will get salty point that out every time.
Sebastian Hernandez
>I figure if people are going to play cards like Iona against me I should also get to play cards that prevent them from playing the game. Your group sounds like a bunch of fags, honestly. Play it, but going down that rabbit hole doesn't end well for anyone.
Eli Torres
I play Zirilan and it's my favorite deck.
Anthony Phillips
Is there any point to a playmat besides looking fancy?
Landon Williams
>Your group sounds like a bunch of fags, honestly. It's only a few people at the store. I just tend to end up playing with the more "competitive" crowd regularly because nobody else wants to put up with Shirei + Gravepact + Shadowborn Apostles. I figure I'll add stuff like contamination and maybe a few other stax effects and then build a more casual deck so I can play against everyone at the store and not get hated off the table.
Kayden Lewis
Whats the best way to win with a simic deck?
I'm new to magic and I want to make a deck that focuses on getting land every turn from cards like fertilid then having enough mana to draw more cards from the library (zameck guildmage) or so I know what I will draw (contingency plan and such) so I have options and possibly the cards I need when I need them to counter the opponent or something.
Is that how simic should be played or are there better ways?
Kevin Johnson
>Whats the best way to win with a simic deck? beat them to death with an army of sneks.
Anthony Davis
While I'm not saying Contamination is broken, I think you should consider what it means when you are legitimately comparing the power of a 3CMC enchantment vs a 9CMC creature. In monoB, the sac effect could even be considered an upside.
Cooper Baker
Snake tribal is a very shortsighted way of building Kaseto. He is much more powerful when you abuse "whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player" triggers.
Owen Ramirez
Did I every say it was broken?
They're both shit cards that belong in shit casual games, the issue is that they remove interaction in the worst possible way.
Gavin Young
why not do both? Also the great Snake Mistake Combo is fun as hell
Blake Lopez
r8 h8 appreci8
>Who's your favorite commander for a beatdown deck? Pretty much any RGx commander. Animar was by FAR the best I've ever played, but Ruric-Thar "oops all permanents" was pretty fun.
Adrian Bailey
>Snake Mistake Combo explain
Joshua Lewis
Did I ever say you said it was broken?
My argument is that it should give you pause that a 3CMC enchantment is comparable (honestly stronger) in power to a 9CMC creature in terms of lockdown. But that's I guess par for the course with Urza cards.
Aiden Reyes
Say it with me, everyone. EDRIC D R I C FLYING L Y I N G MEN. E N .
Play this guy and a bunch of small, evasive bodies, draw your deck and win. Lab Man, Beastmaster Ascension, Craterhoof Behemoth. Don't forget a few low-cost extra turn cards, like Temporal Mastery, and some good cheap counterspells.
Elijah Gutierrez
I never referenced their powerlevel whatsoever dumbass. Why are you replying to me?
Blake Powell
I'm building my first EDH deck right now (blue white) and I'm using Isperia, Supreme Judge as my commander. Any recs on strategies or cards to buy? Right now I'm playing lots of flying creatures, draw cards (bident of thassa, divination etc) and counterspells/pacifying enchantments. I can answer more questions about my deck if needed
Gabriel Hall
Because you keep asking retarded rhetorical questions that have nothing to do with the premise of my statement each time your reply. Gain some reading comprehension, nigger.
My previous double trips proves this.
Nathan Campbell
Its not good but its Hive Mind + Endless Swarm
You end up not letting anyone cast spells and since you are in simic, drawing an fuckton of cards and as such making an ass load of tokens. More of a stupid thing to do than anything else.
VOTE ON YOUR PREDICTIONS FOR THE COLOR IDENTITY OF THE GODS!
Aaron King
I really want them to be shards.
Mono color or two color gods would feel weak after Theros.
Xavier Parker
They're mono
Ryder Peterson
cards that should be banned because of their horrible impact on non-competitive EDH:
deadeye palinchron cyclonic rift sol ring consecrated sphinx leovold derevi
cards that should be unbanned: biorhythm balance limited resources sylvan primordial braids
Hudson Adams
Watch them be mono colored with activated abilities in wedges or shards
Kevin Morales
>Consecrated Sphinx is OP >Balance and Sylvan Promordail aren't (in a multiplayer setting)
I'm fine with most everything else on that list, though I don't think they're all banworthy.
Joseph Flores
>Wedges in a Shard themed set
Thomas Rodriguez
That dude could totally be Grixis as well though. Could be Jund.
I feel like they will all be mono though.
Christopher Cook
When it can't be flickered as hard through DEN primordial just makes you a target
Kevin White
Got those backwards user
Jace Rivera
>50% think mono color identities
We already have mono colored gods ...
Why would we get more?
Jaxson Perry
Building a new deck. Feel like playing Kambal. I've found about 2-3 lists I really like that I'm probably going to go with. Any expirence you guys have playing hard lockdown/stax would be appreciated.
>limited resources >balance >braids you complain about cards that hurt casual players but then you ask to unban cards that casuals would hate even more
Owen Edwards
Primordials main problem in mutiplayer isn't that it destroys a bunch of shit, it's that it destroys a bunch of shit, ramps you a shitton, AND is in green, the color known most for ramping out fatties faster than anyone. DEN makes this more abusable, yes, but the card is fucking atrocious on its own anyway
Parker Lee
>guy asks if Contamination is poor form >I reply saying it's as unfair as Iona >your replies contain >you should consider what it means when you are legitimately comparing the power >it should give you pause that a 3CMC enchantment is comparable (honestly stronger) in power to a 9CMC creature
I don't give a shit which is more powerful, I never mentioned it and I don't care whether Entomb Reanimate: Target monocolored deck can't play the game is of equal or lesser power than (2)B: Fuck off nonblack.
I only ever mentioned their fairness, which given how they both remove certain decks from the game until they're removed I'd say they're pretty unfair. If we're talking about the actual MTG lingo version of the word fair, than Iona is generally less fair than Contamination because she's usually either reanimated (in the case of Manaless Dredge, BU/R Reanimator in Legacy, or most EDH decks other than the next case) or cheated in by Kaalia. Not to mention that Contamination was printed with a downside. And yeah anything can be an upside but you're probably already winning if playing a creature a turn for the foreseeable future is possible.
Because they've mentioned lowering complexity and there isn't proper mana-fixing in Standard right now. Their art heavily suggests mono-colored
Charles Brooks
>Because they've mentioned lowering complexity and there isn't proper mana-fixing in Standard right now. Their art heavily suggests mono-colored
do you think may be right?
Jacob Long
I actually am harboring the idea that they have some weird colorless constraint applied to them, given the massive amount of grey in each image.
Not sure how that would work though.
Cooper Robinson
Someone floated the idea that they would be artifacts instead of enchantments like the Theros gods.
Would fit nicely with Kaladesh at least
Thomas Long
White needs help and braids should be totally okay in the 99
Juan Russell
>there isn't proper mana-fixing in Standard right now. And you're basing this on what? Losing the Battle Lands and the Man Lands when Zendikar rotates out? We've still got the Innistrad duals,the Kaladesh duals, and Aether Hub, for starters. Not mentioning some halfway decent mana dorks since Wizards deemed the idea of a Llanowar Elf too powerful for Standard. To presume there wouldn't be more fixing in Amonkhet is preposterous, as well.
Gavin King
Your stating that you don't care about power while simultaneously highlighting the cards' fairness is self-refuting. A card's 'fairness' is based on the effect you get vs the cost you have to pay for said effect, in other words, it's power. Contamination is more powerful (less fair) than Iona. That was my argument.
Aiden Gonzalez
I don't see how NotHeliod is Grixis and Crocodile person is Jund.
Grixis' bonding color is black so I would assume the dude surrounded by the most black based creature is probably is mostly focused on the color black than the color red.
NotHeliod has the pyramid in the back which will probably be some kind of mountain which indicates red which is also the bonding color of Jund.
If we do shards, Cat is Bant, Bird is Esper, Crocodile is Grixis, Jackal is Jund, and Snake is Naya. If we do mono colored, it's the same order but with the central color instead.
Brody Robinson
>wants a autistic card in his deck >complains about autism
Eli Brown
DEN isn't even that bad. If you got seven mana, then yeah you should be able to renew ETB shit. Palinchron should be banned in general. Free spells are retarded. Cyclonic Rift is fine Sol Ring is a feature of the format, sadly. Sphinx? lol Leovold? FUCK THAT NIGGER REEEEEEEE EVERY TIME I BRING ARJUN SOME CHUCKLEFUCK ALWAYS FLIPS LEOVOLD AND I'M JUST FUCKED Derevi? Eh, gang up on the fucker
Biorhythm is who cares. Balance is ungodly broken. Any deck with white in it will play it. Limited Resouces does too much for W Sylvian Primordial? FUCK YOU BRING BACK PRIME TIME Braids needs to remain banned, since Sidisi exists