/hhg/ aka Horus Heresy General

So, if the Heresy hadn't kicked off when it did, what would a hypothetical war between the Great Crusade era Imperium and the Mechanicum (All of it, including the indentured Knight Houses) look like? Now they're reconnected with their domains they're not gaining much from the alliance with Terra. Could they take the Legions on? Much as it makes my Iron Hands sad to say it, I think they probably could. Without the Forge Worlds the Imperium doesn't have the production for a war, and grinding your way through Forge Worlds is bloody difficult when everything there actively wants to kill you.

Assuming the Imperium keeps a minority of the Forge Worlds, probably allies with Xana and such, as well as keeping a large chunk of the Reductor as they were more loyal to Terra, and the Mech keep enough agricultural, Hive and other worlds to function, since a lot of them are vassals anyway.

How would the naval stuff work out? Lots of the Terran ships depend on techpriests to function.

The Emperor teleporting to Mars, glassing the planet while his legions simultaneously destroy every forgeworld in the Imperium.

Well now you're trying to mix two bits of lore that were never intended to go together. Just use the praetor stats and call him a different rank. Praetor is really just another name for "extremely well known marine that could've been a character if given focus."

We really don't know how many Mechanicum worlds there are compared to Imperial ones... but it always sounds like they're relatively small in number.

There also seemed to be more production on non-Mechanicum worlds than in M41. Inwit made ships, for example, and Guilliman was able to create a small empire before the Imperium(+Mars) came to town. But you're right, they had a heavy Mechanicum presence very soon.

I suppose that was Mars's plan. They knew they had to accept the alliance or be conquered, and their only way to survive long-term was to make themselves indispensable by reducing everyone else's ability to build and maintain stuff. By M41 they'd largely succeeded.

But I really think they're too small to have a chance in M31.

Earth and Mars probably have enough warheads pointed at each other for mutually assured destruction.

Recast resin in smelly resin. Let it air out somewhere safe, even if it's going to result in dust that you have to clean off later (you're going to have to do a lot of mold release washing anyway).

I'm starting to like Mechanicum, does this list seem anywhere near decent?

HQ
Magos Prime
>Graviton Imploder, Powerfist, Ordinator Magos
Secutarii Axiarch

Troops
Thallax Cohort
>Ferrox Augments
Thallax Cohort
>Ferrox Augments
Secutarii Hoplites
>Triaros Conveyor
Secutarii Hoplites
>Triaros Conveyor

Fast Attack
Ursurax Cohort
>Power Fists
Ursurax Cohort
>Power Fists

Heavy Support
>Myrmidon Destructors
>4 Myrmidoms, Graviton Imploders, Triaros Conveyor
Krios Battle Tank
>Lightning Cannon
Krios Battle Tank
>Lightning Cannon

Allied Knights Detachment-

HQ
Knight-Errant
>Lord Scion

Troops
Knight-Errant

Leaves me 10 points shy of 3,000, which is good since I have room to upgrade the Knights to other guns if I don't like melta (fairly likely). Also, could give the Myrmidoms those cool Photon cannons instead, and then have a really terrifying ranged presence.

Am I doing Thallax right? Ursurax seem fun and ded 'ard Killy, and the hoplites+Triaros can delete any vehicle they like, but I'm not yet certain about my main troops. Then again, 12 S5 rending attacks isn't anything to hate on

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Legions and the Emperor aren't quite that OP, user. Only so much about a million guys can do against what's probably a few tens of thousands of planets, and each of those will be an almightly pain to take over. As for Emps, it'll take him a few months at LEAST to deal with Mars, he needed years for Terra and that wasn't united against him.

Yeah, I would think they have enough to make a damn impressive slugfest of it, especially as a proper Forge World, with the layered defenses and the majority of the planet given to infrastructure would probably need a full Legion or more to deal with. They're not as numerous, but they are much more a problem than the pissy little cities they've had to deal with so far.

Also, Titans and Ordinatii would make a pretty good fist of dealing with Primarchs, they're not LITERAL gods.

Get your ass some Reductor benefits, man. Boost that Magos up with Machinator at least, make him an Archimandrite, possibly cut one Knight and get the mandatory Magos Reductor. Upgrade the Krios to Venators, take Matrix of Ruin and get some artillery as HS #4.

Possibly make the Secutarii Rad-carbine Peltasts in 20-man units, and get one squad of 12 Hoplites in an Arvus for AT duty. Leave a spare spot in one for the Axiarch. To get a FA slot, merge the Ursarax units. They're kind of bad, honestly, maybe drop one unit and buy some Enginseers to hang with the Arty and the Magos Reductor, keep those 4 backline tanks good while the Magos buffs them.

List is good, just needs some more synergy since that doesn.t work very well as vanilla Taghmata, especially with that many tanks. Will benefit a lot from IWND on everything and Scoring in enemy deployment, plus ignoring terrain.

Yeah, I'd say you're doing it right. It'd help if you gave us quantities though.

Just realised Matrix of Ruin loses you HQ slot #3, so you'll have to pick Archimandrite or Axiarch, although you could use regular force org and merge the Krios together, which is probably a better idea, giving you all 3 HQs and all the Hsupport. Take the single Knight as your LoW.

Here's the hybrid SoH scheme mentioned earlier.
It's not an Apothecary or a special dude, it's just a legionary.

That's not a hybrid scheme.

What the fuck

I ask here because it's the closest thing to it.

Where the fuck is the 40k general?

Thanks.

Transitionary then? idk whatever you want to call it
The force sent along with the Wolves was in the middle of changing over from Luna Wolves to Sons of Horus.

has anyone made any custodes lists yet?

Thanks for the advice! Damn, Reductor has some sweet rules and toys, but for now I think I'll stat along the same track. Some slight adjustments;

HQ (275)
Arch-Magos Reductor
>Graviton Imploder, Powerfist, Cyber-Familiar
Secutarii Axiarch

Troops (850)
Thallax Cohort
>3 Thallax, Ferrox Augments
Thallax Cohort
>3 Thallax, Ferrox Augments
Secutarii Hoplites
>10 Hoplites, Triaros Conveyor
Secutarii Hoplites
>10 Hoplites, Triaros Conveyor

Fast Attack (410)
Ursurax Cohort
>3 Ursurax, Power Fists
Ursurax Cohort
>3 Ursurax, Power Fists

Heavy Support (700)
>Myrmidon Destructors
>4 Myrmidoms, Graviton Imploders, Triaros Conveyor
Krios Battle Tank
>Lightning Cannon
Krios Battle Tank
>Lightning Cannon

Allied Knights Detachment-

HQ (395)
Knight-Errant
>Lord Scion

Troops (370)
Knight-Errant

Still not 100% sold on the Ursurax, however for now I think they're worth the try. I might get one of those drones (unless that's a total dick move) or some of those kickass reductor tanks instead, at the risk of limiting melee capability.

>I might get one of those drones (unless that's a total dick move)
One generally isn't. Two depends on the rest of your list (with two knights I'd say yes), and three is a dick move.

The biggest dick move, imo (and you're not doing it), is deep striking the new secutarii guys with haywire rifles in an Arvus Lighter. I don't know how any vehicle is supposed to have a fighting chance against that.

I'm not sure 3-man Thallax/Ursurax squads are going to accomplish anything. I think you're giving up too much in order to squeeze two knights into the list.

I'm on the haters' side when it comes to yiffs, but I have to admit I love the snippets we've got so far.

>giving up too much

Yeah, good point. I'll still have a lot of offensive power with just one, and I can get some room to buff the Ursurax/Thallax/Hoplites up. Cool stuff

>Deep-Striking Arvus
Holy hell that's a magnificent plan
Evil, but magnificent

reminder that the structural chapter emerged from the Principia Belicosa to which all legions originally conformed and not from the Codex Astartes, which merely adopted the structure as a sensible fighting command size

Can you give a pic of the Tank part?

that's a Lunar Wolves scheme with the new SoH symbol and colors on the pauldron

the raptor on the marine's gauntlet marks him as a Terran veteran iirc

>choosing color scheme for VI Legion Blackshields
>dog dick red

Legio Custodes fluff anyone?

>'Only in Death Does Duty End' is their 'first maxim'
>They are the Firstborn; predating the Thunder Warriors. Not advanced Space Marines, they are their own thing.
>Even harder to make than Space Marines, they reached 10K at the middle of the Crusade and then were kept at that number.
>Earliest mention of them says the Emperor originally had 4. By the time the Thunder Warriors appear in history, there were said to be 30.
>"Hundreds" of them culled the Thunder Warriors, accompanied by the first ever "few thousand" prototype Space Marines, who would go on to become the first members of of Legio I
>While Marines must begin implantation at the onset of adolescence, Custodians must begin the process as actual children.
>Unless killed by bodily harm they are effectively immortal
>The process to make them goes down to the cellular level and so some say it is akin to biomancy.
>There's a belief that DAoT tech was used to make them, only the Emperor able to master such tech to pure ends
>Valdor has been Captain-General (highest rank below the Emperor) since anyone can remember
>Below him are the Tribunate: "perhaps ten in number"
>The Tribunes are the Emperor's personal war and security council
>Below the Tribunes are Prefectors (title and service position afford veteran status) and Shield Captains (active service on detached duties)
>Underneath that they have a load of titles that denote current role
>The Hykanatoi are the main body and compose the Sentinel Guard, the 'actual' Custodian Guard and the Heteraeon Guard (elites).
>The Tharanatoi are the heavy shock and are where you can find their Terminators and Sagittarum Guard (who bear relic weapons)
>The Kataphraktoi: fast attack and pilots
>The Ephori: covert ops, have ties to the Assassin clades.
>The Moritori: Dreadnoughts. Less than 100. First ever Dread was one, in the first Dread mark: the Ur-Gholem. Now use Achillus pattern, a superior Contemptor mark.

Check the catalogue retard. If there isn't one there then make it.

Busted my painting arm while rock climbing, so I can't do a damn thing for the next couple days and I must suffer through unpainted Ultraboys. Let me live through you. What are you working on /hhg/?

this could be an interesting read, even if i am predisposed to not liking them

keep 'em coming!

Oderint dum metuant motherfucker

I think it's kind of sad that I know what that means.

I know your pain user, I broke my middle finger last year right after buying my big intro to Admech It sucked, so get better soon!

But hey, now I'm better AND have an army of custodes. Word from the wise to you other anons, don't use Retributor Spray, does that same ugly half-grainy shit as Corax White.

PS sorry for shit picture, iPad is all I have that's good for pictures and it doesn't like gold

Hey /hhg/

I'm making some Blackshields, ex-Emperor's Children, and want them to play differently than my Emperor's Children and maybe even have the units my current Emperor's Children don't have (i.e. a Moritat, Destroyers, Breachers, etc.).

Thus far I have the Burning of Prospero and built up the 30 MK3 as 2 squads of 15 marauders each with chainaxes and hammers on the Chiefs. I've also converted the spacewolf into a Reaver with a Halo blade (which I've been told is shit but I like the aesthetic of swords). They are still unpainted.

Where should I go from here?

How would I use Destroyers and Breachers?

Would I be better off just using World Eaters or Death Guard instead?

Yea. Airing it out now.

A few teeth on the bottom broke off as well as a few rivets on the panels.

The claws are a little rough. One of the under panels broke and is missing, though its under the claw itself, so it should be fine.

As for cleaning, they definitely FEEL like they need to be cleaned, so that should be fun. Do I clean them before I start fixing them or after?

For $50, it could be worse.

looks like you didn't shake it enough, every time I've used retributor in good conditions it went on smooth as butter.

if it's a bad can take some photos and send a mail to GW customer support, they'll often replace models that were damaged by a shitty can of spray.

I shook Corax White strongly for good ten minutes and it still gave me that grainy shit.
Luckily it was on test models but I'd like to see GW try to replace Dark Elf Warriors back from God-knows-when, probably '90s.

>Hydragyrum watches it, knowing that a human would have felt terror, or confusion. He feels nothing, though. He is an empty vessel shaped like a living creature, but that is as it should be. He was the lodestone at the centre of the tree of death, the absence at the heart of annihilation, the null to the aleph of life.

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>And no one he passed looked at him. They turned their eyes and hurried away. If asked, none of them would be able to say why they did not want to look at the thin man in black. A lucky few would say that they could not remember him at all. That did not bother Hydragyrum.

>Outwardly, he seemed a human just like those that passed on his walk across the walls. He was not human, though, any more than a statue of a man was a man. He was inhuman. He was pariah. He knew this, and had known it ever since he had been old enough to hold a thought. He presumed that his family had seen it in him, which was why they had left him on the refuse range to die – the strange child with the eyes that made people shiver, and who did not cry when they left him to the wolves and winds.

I just read the Psi-Titan short story. So Pariahs are confirmed to be autistic unable to feel emotion or empathy.

But what's wrong with their eyes? It's always their eyes that are described as the most horrifying/disturbing thing about them.

Also how could the Emperor commission the creation of such abominations like the psi-titans?

>tfw FW keeps coming out with cool exotic schemes like red white WE, SW field police, and this guy

I can't imagine what it feels like to be a player who bought and painted tons of shit just to have new releases make him want to re-do the whole army. Happened to Minotaurs too.

>How would I use Destroyers and Breachers?
You don't. Make a zone mortalis space pirates if you want to use those models.

Windows to the soul, it's a metaphor

That's why I'm waiting for Angelus to come out before painting my BA.

Metaphor? The dude raised his head to stare at an Imperial Fist. His stare caused the marine to flinched back.

And the Fist flinches because to look into the eyes of a blank is to gaze through the windows to nothingness, perhaps? The guy is a pariah, right?

>The guy is a pariah, right?

Yeah but would gazing into nothing disturbs a marine? It's not like he was a psyker and understands the concept of a soul.

Give me my Gorgon, Forge World

Blanks project an aura of "wrongness" that makes people dislike them at fundamental level.

>go to order a couple more castellax, this time with darkfires.
> out of stock
>sadmagos.jpg

Here you go.

Spoiler alert.

It will be red and gold

Sort of like awkward neckbeards?

Yeah, but you will hate the for no reason and you will hate the fact that you have no reason so you hate them more.

Should 30k get a Traitor Summoning based RoW similar to KDK where you can get a token if a unit is destroyed and put it towards summoning a Lesser/Greater Daemon to represent the Siege of Terra or is that too CSM for 30k

I think it would fit better and just giving librarians Malefic

Dammit, really?

They look so cool.

Untouchables bother every living thing, including xenos . Effect varies upon strength of the Blank and the will of the beholder. Nulls are "existential horrors" apparently.
On that subject, Sisters fluff from Inferno. Not much as they're super-secret.

>Militant arm of the Telepathica, similar authority to Custodes, but specialised to hunt and cull psykers, including rogues
>'Ordinary' Sisters are already the most powerful Untouchables, can somehow increase the strength of their effect. These ones are the Oblivion Knights and can damp alpha-level psykers.
>Records of them pre-Crusade basically don't exist, only mention of similar are the 'Hollow Ones', servants of the Unspeakable King, a pre-Emperor figure also said to be a Null.
>Thought to have originally been assassins and covert agents.
>The original psyker-gatherers of the Diviso Investigates were just dudes, and had problems doing their job. On an especially bad campaign v. early in the Crusade (before Russ was found), the commander realised a newly-raised Army regiment nicknamed the Daughters of the Crow had a load of nulls in it and used them to pacify the situation. He then had the lot of them carted away in the Black Ships. Some say they were the genesis of the Sisters. Others say that's bullshit.
>Regardless, about 40 years into the Crusade, the Sisters of Silence appeared as a recognised Imperial body.
>Specialise in short-range high intensity combat. >They only cut their hair if they have failed in some way.
>Trained from childhood ideally. The vow of Silence is the final part of their training.
>3 senior officers:
>Knight Commander (senior field officer)
>The Mistress of the Black Ships
>The Nemesis Praxxia: Training and lore master
>2 main factions: Chamber of Oblivion (martial forces) and Chamber of Judgement (interrogators). The Chambers have sub-factions that comprise the different armed units and investigation teams respectively.
>Black Ships carry Exterminatus class weapons

Playing this game with the models you like and losing is better than playing this game with models you hate and winning.

>accompanied by the first ever "few thousand" prototype Space Marines, who would go on to become the first members of of Legio I
And here I was totally ready for FW to ruin my Praetor's fluff. But they didn't, thanks, FW.

>Playing this game with the models you like and losing is better than playing this game with models you hate and winning.

Quite true. I like the drama of drawn out infantry battles and duels between heroes, and I don't like the idea of infantry being around just to take objectives. To this end I'm building 2 legions so I can provide both sides - infantry based Ultramarines and Word Bearers.

Also I am poor and can't afford Typhons.

>Untouchables bother every living thing, including xenos
That's one way to put it.

>Also I am poor and can't afford Typhons

Chinaman user, he will provide

>reminder that the structural chapter emerged from the Principia Belicosa to which all legions originally conformed and not from the Codex Astartes
This, thank you.
Also, the one who researched the Chapter's fighting strenght as a means to maximize the kill/death ratio wasn't Guilliman, but Aeonid Thiel.

Fucking spoiler text that.

Jesus.

This is why I mainly play (Traitor) Marines and blob guard. My Emperor's Children were mostly veterans to be "the elite" that the legion should be. I was hoping to use Blackshields to represent the dregs of experiments gone wrong or those who dabbled to much into excess but backed out before the rest of the legion turned from the Emperor. Switching back to heavier defences and whatnot to endure a punishment they deserve.

Having a bunch of heavily armoured semi-mutant marines running around the field with axes, trying to repent for their transgressions, and dying in glorious melee combat appeals to me.
Like a 30k Legion equivalent of the Sister Repentia I guess.

Joke's on you faggot BA are gonna be red and black.

>Also the Leman Russ tank was named after him as the STC for it was found in a campaign he led that went brilliantly.
I wish Russ hated that tank the same he hates his own spear, being stuck with Fenris, wolves, fake vikings and shit, and that he hates it because he knows it was originally a STC for a tractor :^)

Thanks user, just by chance though, is that the only one?

Time for the OP Sons origins
>After Unification and Luna had fallen, but before the Sol system was conquered, there was this big warp storm that caused havoc on Terra and freaked everyone one
>During this time the Black Sentinels, the first Sisters and the XVth legio all appeared in service.
>Had the strictest intake screening; only recruited from the most politically and genetically stable, loyal and culturally sophisticated regions of Terra, then further sifted for specific types of recruits, often by the Emperor himself.
>V.high level of geneseed acceptance.
>When the initial formation knelt before the Emperor and he bade his thousand sons to rise, the warp storm around Terra broke. Hence having a name before even their first battle honour.
>Took the Millennial icon because of the name, took the colours of the Achamanean Immortals, a historical force from their main recruitment ground.
>Nobody gave much of a fuck about them for years, other than being mildy curious as to why the Emperor took such a hand in their making and gave them a name. Then their powers manifested, quickly across the whole legion.
>It was then believed the Emperor knew exactly what he was doing, despite the questions this raised
>The Imperium was anti-psyker in general, so they started to get a bad rep
>Legio III refused to fight alongside them, the Dusk Raiders ignored them on campaign and Horus advised the Emperor just to get rid of them
>Captain Ohrzmud (Ahriman's brother) and 200 guys took 6 hours to conquer a planet, using powers
>A (now dead) Titan Legio swore brotherhood with them
>The Emperor summoned them to be his personal force for one specific campaign
>They stayed small, usually around 10,000. Other legions were massive by this time.
>During the Bezant campaign the flesh-change appeared and one guy was Spawned. The TS decided to cover this up.
>Eventually it started to become a pandemic.
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>How you gonna shoot me down when I guide the rocket?
That'd have been the ideal endgame...but it's too damn difficult so it was definitely out of the question.
At least not before making orks, eldar and necrons go exctinct.
You see, unlike Horus and Lorgar's hubris and daemon cuckery, Emps does believe in humanity fuck yeah.

Also, I love that Arkhan loves Him as much as I do.

I have a brain disorder that affects my motor control. Basically I trigger uncanny valley with some people, mainly children. Friends say they got used to it quick, but the first impression can be scary. Why was I born in the universe where I have this issue but can't also use it to rip the souls out of people? It feels like I'm being cheated out of my rights here.

You mean like Malcador, the second most powerful person in the Imperium, got his name attached to a second rate Leman Russ+ good for PDF tier units and only got used in the Heresy because they needed tonks. Or Macharius, whose name is carried by the not-Baneblade made by forge world that can't make the far superior Baneblades.

Imperium has a weird way of honoring their heroes.

>The biggest dick move, imo (and you're not doing it), is deep striking the new secutarii guys with haywire rifles in an Arvus Lighter. I don't know how any vehicle is supposed to have a fighting chance against that.
Dammit why is everything I come up classified as a Warcrime?

There's a SoH chieftain as well, but he's in normal SoH colours.
The fluff for the SoH is that they were switching from Luna Wolves to SoH and so the rank and file were being pressured to join the Lodges. Those that didn't were noted by rhe command cadre. In the ensuing action on Prospero, where the SoH were deployed in low-intensity population control, they took unusually high casualties for such a task. Guess which ones died.
They also leave Prospero with their ships registering larger cargo then when they arrived...

>Imperium has a weird way of honoring their heroes.
Suddenly I want to know who Mr Bane Blade was and why he wore the mask

What, do you just do the robot whenever you walk?

>prevented from one hobby by an accident in another

WELL LOOK AT THIS PHYSICALLY ACTIVE FAGGOT WITH HIS BALANCED FUCKING LIFESTYLE AND SHIT, WOW

FUCK YOU

Get well soon bro

Get outta here hot topic

>>The Hykanatoi are the main body and compose the Sentinel Guard, the 'actual' Custodian Guard and the Heteraeon Guard (elites).
What? But Hetaraeon (Hetaroi) literally means "the companions"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Companion_cavalry

>rock climbing

This is so fucking normalfag it hurts

>6 hours
Ha! Beat that Alpharius

Any bitter bros have a good Iron Warriors recipe I can culturally appropriate? inb4 drown it in nuln oil

unless you really want the extra perks of the lord scion you don't actually have to take the knights as an allied detachment. matrix of ruin can take two lords of war, and you can take any knight as a mechanicum lord of war.

Sad Witch Marines pt.2
>As the affliction became known, everyone started yelling that the TS should be culled; the Emperor told them to zip it.
>The TS put their dudes who got the flesh-change but hadn't spawned into stasis aboard ships. When Magnus arrived with the 'cure' most of them couldn't actually be saved. The actual fate of this "Dreamless Brotherhood" is unknown.
>Prospero barely survived Old Night, thanks to the mind-bugs and general psychic nonsense. Magnus landed in Tizca and came under the tutelage of Amon. Magnus made Tizca great again.
>Magnus always claimed he mind-spoke to the Emperor from a very young age. True or not, the Emperor made a bee-line for Prospero and brought what was left of the TS with him.
>Magnus and the TS immediately loved each other. Mags went all out to cure the flesh-change.
>Some say this was a test set by the Emperor.
>Mags did it, but no-one ever knew how. Now it seems he delved too far into things Mankind should not know.
>Only 1,000 TS survived the flesh-change. He remade them with Prosperine lore.
>He tried to raise his first generation of Tizcan colleagues to marines, but most didn't make it. Amon was one that did.
>Magnus didn't believe in dominating the stars but elevating Mankind to enlightenment. Gathering knowledge became a big deal to the TS.
>Pertuarabo sometimes accompanied Magnus on research missions, observers didn't understand why they were friends.
>Magnus didn't invent the Librarius but became the chief proponent. Getting the backing of several brothers, he convinced the Emperor to give it a go.
>Librarians from all the legions who signed up were then trained in Prosperine, Baalite and Emperor-bestowed psychic techniques.
>The TS started to have friends again.
>Then Nikea.

Thanks, that's pretty cool. There's always been something about how the LW/SoH act that I enjoy. But in terms of their cargo, can we assume pyskers/artifacts?

>Drop Cyclonics
>World is pacified
Alpha as fuck. This one easy trick triggers Ultramarines and Salamanders.

The goal of the Great Crusade isn't just to pacify systems, it's to increase the number of useful worlds too. I'm sure you could just replace all the resources it took to make and maintain the legions and just invest it into orbital weaponry but that would be a pretty shitty Imperium to rule over.

Man FW really loves TS

>This is so fucking normalfag it hurts

I, as a total nerd, could picture myself rock climbing indoors (my university had a rock climbing wall) and hurting myself within minutes.

Further reminder that the Legions and the Principia came after, and what was before were the Six Hosts of the Angels of Death.

Even calling them Wings was an adaptation of Calibanite cavalry terminology, their original names lost in the intervening 300 years.

Deathwing, Dreadwing, Ravenwing, Ironwing, Stormwing, Firewing

The DA are gonna have some wicked pre-Caliban fluff in Angelus, if the hints in Inferno are indicators.
The BA are mentioned a lot in terms of the Librarius, so who knows, maybe they'll get some minor psychic rules.

>Hydragyrum
He's literally named Freddy Mercury?!
>Also how could the Emperor commission the creation of such abominations like the psi-titans?
They're a necessary evil, user.
There are things out there in the galaxy that should not be, waiting to bring the Old Night back.
Must we kindly wait for the darkness swallow us? Yes, we shall bring the Emperor's light to the galaxy, but there are some things that cannot be fought with light.
We shall fight monsters with monsters of our own. Only when humanity is the last nightmare left on the galaxy, only there can we change ourselves and our Crusade will end.

>But in terms of their cargo, can we assume pyskers/artifacts?
Yeah, they assigned themselves (somehow) to 'population control' which is apparently Imperial terminology for killing civilians. They could somehow separate who were powerful psykers and so kidnapped them, killed the ones they didn't want.
They get away with this undetected as well.

>There are things out there in the galaxy that should not be
And the Emperor made 18 of them.

t. Custodes