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Looks like a Delegatus to me, not blinged enough to be a praetor or chaplain, loadout sucks for a champion but he does like he could be second in command.
Dominic Phillips
>not blinged enough to be a praetor or chaplain DG don't really care about bling though
Julian Martin
Reading through the Talons tactica on 1d4chan, and it's basically one long article about how amazing they are at melee and how invincible every model is. Is this the usual brand of exaggeration? The DG player and WE player at my store are both building Custodes armies, so do I stand a chance with Mechanicum? I suspect I may have to pull out a few war crimes to get rid of those S:D dreads, though.
Anyone played a game with/vs the new Custodes or Titan Guard? How did it go?
Camden Foster
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Chase Campbell
So now that the dust is settled, what do you like/dislike about
>Sisters >Custodes >Sons >Wolves
Isaac Davis
need help picking a legion.
starting a marine army and might as well make one that i can play in 2 games. For the 40k side i was planning to go raptors chapter tactics, which legion would best fit a long range/sniper+stealth style?
Hudson Taylor
Needs some moar to be a chaplain imo, not sure what thought.
He could paint up his face with a skull, like Shiban Khan
Samuel Barnes
I'm a bit bummed they aren't using the round aspires shields (hoplons) the hoplites were famed for. Reduce them to pure infantry as fast as you can, user. Their tanks and dreads are too dangerous. Post the other one.
Carson Reed
Your looking at either the Alpha Legion or Raven Guard to fit those themes
Jack Robinson
Never liked black nose skull faces.
It always look clown like and looks like tumblr nose gone beyond the impossible.
Grayson Lopez
>For the 40k side i was planning to go raptors chapter tactics, which legion would best fit a long range/sniper+stealth style?
Raven Guard, do a Recon Company supported by Mor Deythan squads and deep striking dreadnoughts.
Josiah Ortiz
>He could paint up his face with a skull, like Shiban Khan Insane clown posse kid's party face paint or a badass skull helmet? Decisions, decisions... Everything is better with helmets.
Nathaniel King
Juggalo Khan
Levi Powell
They could have done that, but even if it's not completely accurate I do think the kiteish shields suit them better, especially with the cog emblem on it. Hopefully they won't have much in the way of armour, those guys are expensive, so my one Hoplite kill team and the Lightning should be able to deal with them, since my big guns will need to be dropping sweet sweet S10 on their infantry.
Do they have the volume of attacks to clear tarpits, or would Adsecs and Cult Hordes do a decent job? With those stats they're not losing units fast enough for me to just hit them as they come.
Alexander Perez
Stop clowning around guys
Caleb Lopez
>Fucking Jetbikes, how do they work.
Blake Roberts
So if i am reading this right, giving the custdeos dread the spear of the D, gives him 6 attacks (walker with 3 CCW) base, 2 heavy storm bolters AND a heavy D3 las cannon
jesus holy Emperor, thats mad
Kayden Bailey
>Do they have the volume of attacks to clear tarpits With those melee weapons? Nah, they exist to bodyblock infantry away from Titans and be harder than usual to kill with their invulnerable and defensive on top of the hand-daddy (kyropatris) field.
On the Taghmata's particular case, they also exist to suicide drop in an arvus the way legiones astartes wish their melta tac support squads could.
Noah Scott
HONK
Tyler Ward
Even better, because of forgeworld's kerrrr-AZZY rules writing, if you roll a single 6 to hit on the charge, all 7 attacks have the D.
Juan Turner
i mean sure, but if anyone every tried that, i think would refuse to play then, that clearly not RAI
Jayden Jones
Adjusted as in their whole "The First" and knightly themes, not their Sikret traitor Gayluminati theme. Which is a meme Because it's not a secret
Angel Hill
THEY ALL FLOAT DOWN HERE
Luis Cook
>Death Guard >chaplains
Jack Powell
"I didn't read Echoes of Old Nigh", the post. It's just a "but more destroyers" story, though
Jaxson Ross
Yeah, I was talking about the Custodes, but I didn't make that clear, sorry.
Sadly the Peltasts lack the punch they have in 40k, but large blocks of permanently BS5 Skitarii Vanguard in transports with FnP buffs and very good transports are still pretty damn shiny. I've done the maths, with Axiarch Feel No Pain and a Titan they take 18.5% of small arms fire wounds. That makes them basically Terminators but with more easily negated saves. Certainly tougher than your standard Astartes Tacticals. Hoplites are gloriously insane at their job and nice and sticky deepstriking (without mishap in Ruins) scoring Troops in Arvus.
Gavin Garcia
I love how there's basically no disadvantage to activating the hazard protocols against astartes armies (i.e. most 30k armies). WS2 I2 is exactly the same as WS3 I3 when fighting marines.
Isaac Morales
What's this?
Dylan Jones
DG destroyers led by their Chaplain siege a crashed IF ship. It's where the "Locked tighter than Dorn's arsecheeks" quote comes from. In the Mega
Nolan Walker
>WS2 I2 is exactly the same as WS3 I3 when fighting marines.
Another reason why the Tau aren't properly stat'd. They should be Str2.
Julian Foster
I played a 1500pts game with my Custards (the few models I have for now). The Shield-Captain and Hetaeron are very painful if you don't have nasty things to ID them, Look Out Sir for everybody in the squad makes them way more durable as a squad than what you may expect.
Use tarpits. Custodes are very few in number and the basic guys have only 2 attacks, they can't deal with them (extra attacks on a 6 to hit is not a big thing). Shoot the fucking Dreads, try to scout/deep-strike something in the ass of any Caladius. Bring blobs, play a mission where you need to hold objectives and everything will be fine.
Tyler Moore
Well, unless you're scrapping with Death Guard or Wolves and for some reason you had enough equipment on your Alpha to stand a chance in a sergeant fight, and even then you certainly get more out of the BS2 overwatch, killing three Marines right there.
Best thing about Hoplites is going to be the staggering amount of retaliation they'll be subject to once the Spartan/Fellblade/Stormlord/Whatever is destroyed or crippled and the opponent realises that they can keep doing that while being Marine-level sticky and scoring in his backfield. I can't see them doing much to anything without an AV, but they'll be perfectly worth the 254 for guaranteed Spartan elimination. I wouldn't be surprised to see 800pt Primarchstars waste a turn on them.
Sebastian Gomez
Oh great, 3W 5e style Nob Bikers with better saves. They can suck artillery all game long, I think.
Only two attacks? I suppose I'm used to the 40k Custodes with four or five each. Tossing down 100 Levies seems like the obvious approach, or possibly 60 Adsecularis in smaller groups. Treating the skimmers as Wave Serpents with better armour, I have Lightnings and Thallax for that. Re. Dreads, not much in my army that a charge from a regular Legion Dreadnought won't kill but that will save my Archmagos, and he's hiding.
How's their mobility in practice? Been plenty of talk re. Master of Ambush and Deepstrike, did you use those much? Arae Shrikes do anything much?
Christopher Green
If you go the tarpit route, just be careful of their terminators (once models are out for them). They can put an S6 flamer with Torrent on every model, which will make a mess of almost any blob.
Austin Young
How do custodes handle dreads in melee ? Like if you send in a few contemptors, do the custodes not care, woop the dreadnoughts' asses or start crying because of all the Str 10 attacks ?
Jose Johnson
Some custodes get power fists. Plus s10 hits are s10 hits whether you are T4 or T5
Landon Thomas
Anyone without a solerite(?) power fist or a warblade thing will probably struggle somewhat, the dread should hopefully remove a few at least, they're about equal points
Leo Collins
What exactly did the DA raiding Xana steal?
Cooper Watson
scorias archaeotech hentai collection
Dylan Bell
That's rad.
Logan Perez
So is this a thunder hammer or a power maul? Or is both?.
Gavin Sanders
definitely a hammer but it could be a maul if you wanted
Elijah Bennett
Hammer.
Zachary Davis
A Torrent flamer with the exact stats to kill Levies with Cult Horde and Tainted Flesh on 2+ no saves, which was not an accident. One competent bit of rules writing in that book.
Luckily they're not quite as effective against the Adsecularis or the Secutarii especially. Thinking the most effective techique may be to dump 16.33 wounds on them from a Vanguard squad, since they'll tank artillery and AP2 just fine.
Aquilions scare me, true. I'll have to think of a trick there.
Attempted to take three Ordinatus Minoris Ulator-class, Xana's present to the good Warmaster for all his sponsorship. Got two, one was destroyed when the attack force was decimated by Scoria's advancing daemonbots. As far as we know, they were put to use at the Titandeath, whatever that is.
Jason Diaz
Is this in book 6?
Asher Gonzalez
Book six, The Xana Incursion. One time we've seen Scoria in action, even if just by proxy, and he takes apart an Astartes assault force handily. Looking forward to more of him, if we get it. Mechanicum does it's best work independent. The Black Judges, Xana, all that jazz
Elijah Lopez
A super bad ass Xeno ship. After single handedly raping half the squid monster fleet. With one DAoT cruiser. DA confirmed for badassness.
Evan Evans
Bitch it has Endrak Har who jacked Zana's gifts to Horus. The loyalist WE so badass Angron and Kharn sent him into NOT!exile so they could feel less like little whiny bitches.
Jaxon Howard
For Imperial Fist terminators; Plasma Blaster or Assault Cannon?. Cant decide, both are too fucking cool.
Eli Sanchez
Lazy answer: assault cannon (because why wouldn't you when you're IF?)
Correct answer: magnets
Asher Allen
He was the sneakiest World Eater to have ever lived.
Leo Baker
>TS Like: everything Dislike: underpriced HQs making non-named HQs a bad idea >Sisters Dislike: lack of units
Christopher Myers
Assault cannon you fool
Ayden Price
If TSons can get their own special dreadnought, surely WE can get Ursus Dreads? I wouldn't even care if they were an exclusive upgrade for Boxnaughts because their stockier, stouter forms make better anchors or something, I'd take a full talon of them.
Brody Powell
>Dislike: underpriced HQs making non-named HQs a bad idea
Consider it an extra incentive to play traitors, or an extra challenge to play loyalists.
Jordan Phillips
WE will get Ursusnoughts at the Siege of Terra. Enjoy your long wait.
Evan Baker
>put a warhound sized weapon on dreadnaughts Fucking Angron.
Luke Murphy
I don't know what got the WE got all killed at Siege of Terra more, Sanguinus going full revengeance or Angron generally making poor policy decisions.
Logan Wilson
Well, the Xanatite fleet kicked the arse of the Loyalist one then returned to base when the Dangles blew up the orbital platforms. They didn't exactly take it on man-to-man. Also, Xenos ship? I don't remember reading anything about that.
Hoping we get some new fluff for the Mechanicum sometime, since so far there's been quite a lot of marines jerking off in our stories. Can we have an Admech story sometimes where there are no Marines, no Ctan or Emperor bullshit and no random shoehorning of the Admech being incompetent all the time?
Leo Thomas
You should be grateful Mechanicum have been getting as much coverage as it has, compared to "literally footnotes" Eldar.
Julian Robinson
>Angron competing with Sangy at anything You're a funny guy user.
Mason King
I don't know, Angron would beat Sangy at the climbing segments of Ninja Warrior
Christian Martinez
I'm not entirely familiar with Ninja Warrior, but how is anyone going to beat someone who can fly at climbing?
Bentley Martin
Because it's about climbing, not flying. Come in, man, try to keep up here.
Nicholas Stewart
Is there a rule against simply using you wings to fly to the top?
Nicholas Mitchell
your wings
Colton Lewis
There is in Ninja Warrior 30k
Aiden Lewis
what did the postman bring you today?
John Morris
Bills
Luke Morgan
What's that spider model in the background?
Easton Watson
Sprue of Shapeways cataphractii pads.
William Taylor
Damn, those fucks thought of everything. Alright, Angron would likely win the climbing challenge in Ninja Warrior 30k. Are those dragon dildos?
Alexander Cook
Nothing. Again. It's going to be weeks before I get Inferno. Why is the post so fucking slow?
Mason Moore
Its a reaper model im using for a Megarachnids force
Mason Lewis
>weeks Where the fuck do you live, Mexico?
Lincoln Cooper
Nothing today, but I got my Dreadclaw yesterday. Cleaned it off last night, scraped away the mold slips, and did some dry fitting. Looks like it'll be fine, so I'll glue after work tonight.
Otherwise, I have some magnets coming this week because my other resin is a few weeks out.
Sebastian Nguyen
>Weeks Certainly not Mexico, here the post takes months.
Dominic Scott
Australia.
Grayson Davis
>an efficient postal service is one of the first signifiers of a working civilisation Consider me both educated and saddened by this news about the infrastructure of your country.
Michael Sanchez
Is this Scanon?
Josiah Sullivan
They almost all have access to melta bombs, and Valdor cause penetrating hit on 4+ no matter the armour.
Easton Robinson
No. Scananon is somewhere in the US.
Andrew Watson
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Jonathan Gutierrez
Scanon is a lie.
Brody Reed
Are Meltabombs still worth taking in squads now that you can only use one in combat? I'm not sure if the 25pts is worth it on drop pod vets rocking combi-melta when only one gets to use it.
Andrew Jones
Oh. Australia doesn't count for normal travel times from anywhere in the west, user, it's basically the moon to us.
Tyler Parker
Even without the flamer, they have twin-linked S5 AP4 Assault 2 guns + HoW + 4 (5 if you assume misericordia is CCW) master-crafted attacks each on the charge. Not as durable as the Hetaeron, but the damage output of this unit is fucking insane for just 20 points more than a Custodian guard.
Grayson Allen
Don't blame us, it's not our fault we didn't set up a proper postal service for a continent sized prison.
Sebastian Myers
>eldar getting more than a footnote >eldar doing more than a footnotes worth of stuff Other than licking wounds and getting their shit kicked eldar did nothing during the heresy.
Tyler Perry
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SCANON'S LIGHT WILL SHINE AGAIN., UNBELIEVER.
Matthew Bennett
Nah forget it. Buy a couple more combi-weapons or stuff.
Ryan Allen
Chinese heavy flamers. Surprisingly high quality, given they're ebay shit.
William Williams
Yeah, it's rather saddening.
It's not even a bad system, it's simply full of ineptitude. Any package not from the US remains in the backlog at a warehouse for months until they decide to ship it. Once it's out of said warehouse it takes up to a week to reach anywhere in the republic.
Jayden Diaz
>this will never be me and Senpai JUST
Kevin Lee
You and Konrad will never be a large lump of plastic? Am I missing something here?
Asher Bell
Worry not, if I ever have the displeasure of meeting you, I won't hesitate to dump your fat corpse in a garbage bag along with any Curze memorabilia you happen to own.