>Another list building program that may or may not be a pile of shit, sometimes it works and when it does it can be better than the garbage above battlescribe.net/
>The Black Library (Whoever let Alpharius have 10000 library cards, you're fired. Revoking them all is going to take forever) mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
How's this 2k point rapture battallion sound., Veeky Forums?
lord of the legion daemon prince (ML3, daemon of slaanesh, intoxicating elixir, power armor, wings, spell familiar)
lord of the legion sorcerer ML3, combi-bolter, force stave, mark of slaanesh, sigil of corruption, spell familiar (Goes with one of the noise marine squads)
Kakophoni Lucius (Warlord) 6x Noise Marines, Blastmaster, Icon of Excess, 5x extra CCW,, combi-melta, doom siren, power maul, in a rhino with extra armor and dirge caster (Lucius goes in here) 6x noise marines with blastmaster, 4x sonic blaster, combi-plasma, doom siren (Three groups of these) 6x noise marines with 5x sonic blasters, combi-melta, doom siren, power fist in rhino with dirge caster (two of these groups)
Spawn 3x chaos spawn with MoS
2k points on the nose.
Also, how are you supposed to actually use noise marines? Do you max out blastmasters/sonic blasters and sit them back on objectives? Do you take advantage of I5 and kit them for assualt? Do you mix? I really like Slaanesh and EMperor's Children but I want to run an effective list with them, and I'm not sure how to bring the noise.
Levi Davis
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Jaxson Gonzalez
Nth for Aedarki Aeldari from Acommorraghri
Robert Gutierrez
>how does this sound? Loud
Anthony Reed
Starting to think Waldo isn't actually in that pic.
Alexander Clark
>Tau have an elite choice that is more powerful than some factions Lord of War...
What did Games Workshop mean by this?
David Perez
Can anyone paint the OP image without the general bit please? In exchange, here is the B&W version
Carson King
Maybe this color scheme for Daemons of Khorne? I dunno. I kinda like it, but I have an odd idea to do the black areas and head in a bone color instead. Y/N?
Also, how would I paint this or my idea?
Lucas Wood
>>Tau have an elite choice that is more powerful than some factions Lord of War...
If that Lord of War is the Special Character non vehicle, walker, creature type, then sure.
And even some of them can still hammer it down.
Liam Jackson
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Joseph Watson
Hello /40kg/,
I've never played 40k but my roommate is into it and he's been pestering me about it and it looks cool so I may start. I've looked at the fluff for all the factions and the one that interests me the most is Chaos.
My question: would it be possible to make a mono-god army that is decent (doesn't have to be great, just playable)? Daemons + CSM is fine, but my autism won't allow me to mix gods.
Alexander Wood
A Riptide can totally beat a Heirodule, though.
Aaron King
Yeah, I dunno what this "genre" of image actually is. Just reminds me of Where's Waldo. I'll think about shopping him in. And I'll make like 10 versions.
Elijah Fisher
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Mason Adams
>Paint red >light coat of nuln oil over whole body >second coat over arms only >third coat over slightly smallerportion of arms >etc etc until the final coat is almost completely black and only covers the hands
That's the easy way to do it. If you want to do it properly there are a number of different blending techniques you can use that you can look up tutorials for.
Ayden Brown
Yeah man, thanks to the Traitor Legions book the Death Guard (Nurgle), World Eaters (Khorne), and Emperor's Children (Slaanesh) are all pretty good now!
Chase Richardson
DON'T REMIND ME SKREEEEE
Adam Morales
I like you already.
Mono god is fine, especially Tzeentch and Nurgle. Slaanesh might struggle, but I've never actually seen Slaanesh daemons in person so I can't really say
Kevin Mitchell
You glorious bastard, I was considering doing exactly the same thing.
Luke Murphy
>A Riptide can totally beat a Heirodule,
A Heirodule would destroy a Riptide with no issues I think.
Lincoln Allen
Either do what Said, or focus on either Daemons or Marines. They tend to work better by themselves.
Angel Parker
It doesn't have the firepower on its own to bring it down before it gets into melee with it.
Robert Long
So lads. It's pretty much confirmed at this stage that we're getting a new Thunderhawk and it's looking likely it's going to be plastic as GW goes into 'ultimate fan-service' mode.
How do you all feel about this? I'm somewhat doubtful that this is going to be a good move. It'll be OP as fuck, cost a fortune and people will bring it to 1000 pts games.
Some things should be left to FW.
Daniel Reyes
>AP3 shooting
>ever getting into combat with a Riptide
Jeremiah Adams
Point for point, the Riptide is still better in most cases.
Doesn't matter. GW will have to nerf them in 8th, surely.
Ignore those fucking faggots, they just think they're smart because they're regurgitating an untrue fact they read on 1d4chan and insisting it's true only because they don't know the stats for the Riptide of Heirodule and/or are shit at mathhammer.
Wyatt Jackson
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
>Riptide gets the option to take 2 fusion blades and gains rage and can shoot twice if it doesn't charge. Also gets a point reduction. Is more likely.
Ryan Turner
My AM lascannon teams are on a 4+ to hit. What's the cheapest way to make it a reliable 3+?
Elijah Martinez
>Prospero ain't free. The path of psychic enlightment gotta be littred with the blood of space wulves. The Emperor aka "Daaaad" is not my leader. he is a book burning tyrnt and brobably a furry as well. :DD KNOWLEDGE and MAGIC not IGNORENCE and SUBERSTITION ok. praise tzeentch.
Any of you anons with better art skills than I who can make a Magnus Spurdo to go with this text?
Bentley Gomez
Yeah, but three Riptides cost less and would have no issue beating it.
Michael Smith
>So lads. It's pretty much confirmed at this stage that we're getting a new Thunderhawk No it fucking isn't. I haven't heard anything whatsoever of this. Post sources (note the plural) and so help me if you post fucking BoLS.
Anyway, the Thunderhawk is shit, even in Apoc. I'd play a 1k game against one, because if it takes the tubolaser it's 730 points. I would table the faggot's tiny army before it ever showed up, but even if I failed at that it couldn't possibly hope to table a 1000 point army almost entirely by itself over the space of 4-6 turns.
Charles Richardson
Get a 25 point Astropath from the Imperial Agents codex, roll on Divination, and have him cast Prescience on the squad every turn for re-rolls to hit. Statistically it's better than a 3+.
Colton Bennett
Which is true but that isn't what OP said.
Angel Torres
>but my autism won't allow me to mix gods You'll do fine, brother.
Traitor Legions all the way, just a matter of deciding on one.
DG and TS you see the most often, which is a shame, Emperors Children psychic powers seem really fun and I want to hear more from people who use World Eaters to see if their distance-closing rules helps or not.
Josiah Lopez
Reminder that Angron did nothing wrong.
Bentley Perez
Wtf how cheap are riptides I thought they were over 200pts?
Jaxson Hill
Not him, but my autism demands that I use my legion's rules even if I want to use the WE rules, or not use traitor legion rules for non-traitor legion warbands.
Oliver Barnes
Woah, wait, what I do now? I've been too busy sucking with paint.net to do much shitposting past the edition.
Benjamin Morales
They don't, though. Three barebones Riptides is 585 points, and Riptides are also rather shit at killing giant monsters. I'm too lazy to math it out just to shut you faggots up, though.
A new Thunderhawk design has been spotted in images in Prospero. Whether it's going to be plastic is debatable but FW has confirmed a new one is coming and refused to answer any questions about it at the open day.
user... GW an rewrite the rules. They're not going to make the significant invest this will take and not ensure it's the new Riptide.
Brayden Brown
I meant the OP of the riptide comment.
William Collins
>sperged out and killed his own captains I guess at least he didn't decimate his legion like some Imperial Fist wannabe
Josiah Cox
It moves twelve inches as a Garg, then can Run a certain amount for each weapon it gives up. If it runs, then it can't charge.
The riptide moves six inches, gets to shoot everything, then moves 2d6, the average of which is 7, giving it more base movement, minus whatever the Run results are. It's true the Riptide is faster but that's some slow going and plenty of time for it to shoot the thing down.
Sure it does. Nova-charged HBC can definitely eat up the Heirodule before it's in combat, especially if you have a Riptide Wing effect on it.
Bentley Edwards
>Why so aggressive friend?
People have been claiming that a plastic Thunderhawk is going to be released for years. Literal years, the rumour started just after the Baneblade was redone in plastic. It's natural to be highly skeptical at this point.
Jason Richardson
Depends on whether they start long or short deployment. The riptide is only going to be able to back off so far. and does less than a wound on average per turn by itself.
Julian Green
Astropath can only roll on Telepathy.
Luis Cooper
>It does less than a wound on average per turn by itself
I guess if you count the roll to nova-charge, but if it's charged it's exactly one wound on average per turn. That's not including the slight statistical bonus whatever it's secondary weapon would add to it.
James King
Not the Imperial Agents ones.
Cooper Rivera
Nevermind you were right, I forgot the FNP
Lincoln Gonzalez
That's still not enough to kill it. It only takes 3 turns even at maximum distance for it to catch a riptide.
Henry Mitchell
Don't have the codex at hand but something around 135 I think was the number.
They are TEQs after all :^)
Luke Bennett
They're 180 base.
Dylan Roberts
I see a lot of people saying AL is really good, but I feel like they got shafted (not as bad as word bearers). We get some ok artifacts, mostly shit, we get some ok warlord traits, chosen as troops, and we get infiltrate on cultists/chosen/marines. That's it. The decurion is shit, extremely limiting, we get no actual improvements and it's not because we don't have to take marks. Iron warriors get stubborn and FnP 6+. And Hidden Deployment. oh boy, a +1 to our 4+ cultists. Cultists are overcosted trash. A base guard infantry squad costs the same, and they don't have to pay extra for their lasguns, AND they get flak armor instead of a shitty 6+. They can take meaningful weapon options too. I've never seen cultists amount to anything in a game other than sitting on an objective in my deployment zone or dying when i want them to
Josiah Peterson
Can't Word Bearers do some crazy things with Daemons?
I read they can turn a Defiler into a Psyker that can never mishap due to the fact that it's a Daemon.
Nolan Johnson
I want a small squad size, hard to kill AdMech melee unit so badly. Even fixed Electro-Priests would still follow a "buy 20 and throw them in their faces" horde playstyle while Sicarians are all about hit-and-run. A melee squad to stick Cawl or a Dominus into could be pretty fun, since a Cohort Cybernetica is way too expensive to run most of the time and when you do you'll give your TPD the Caduceus rather than the Pseudogenerator or even Uncreator Gauntlet to fuck shit up in melee.
Carson Lee
>Defiler It's shit.
Jaxon Lewis
It might not be shit after what they do to it.
Gabriel Mitchell
Trips and quads confirm (as well as those other guys who replied to me), I'll probably go with the Daemonkin or a CSM army. Thanks, lads.
Luke Wood
No, it's still shit. You're paying over 200 points for a Dreadnought with a 5++ (at best 4++ unless it summons up a Grimoire) that is also your Warlord, and have an absolutely fuckmassive profile. Like any Defiler, it would be shot off the board if your opponent wanted it gone, but even if it didn't die it would still struggle to make its points back because the Defiler is an abortion of a unit that has no idea what it's supposed to be doing.
Easton Ross
>585 points
Good thing you aren't doing the math, faggot.
On what planet does 180x3=585?
Aaron Phillips
iirc they can't do that with a defiler. The issue with the word bearers is they're supposed to use apostles, cultists, daemon princes and possessed. The only good unit of those is the DP. Idea is to daemon factory with the DP, which is boring as hell, and cheesy. They should have made it so you can make your sorcerer like a diabolist from 30k with an artifact. They should have buffed possessed, cultists and apostles. A lot of their artifacts are pretty useless too. They didn't get a daemon weapon, instead they got an ap3 power maul that gives preffered enemy (armies of the imperium) FOR 35 POINTS. They're just super monobuildy (like thousand sons)
Zachary Davis
I kind of what to take an Astropath with my Sisters and fluff it that they're just trying to get him killed because they're not allowed to kill it themselves for whatever reason.
>My lady, the wi-astropath has been slain >Oh no... Not that... >he was decapitated by a traitor astartes >what a shame >the astartes fell to our divine flames >excellent
Jose Johnson
Riptide loses smash and goes down to 4 wounds. Does this remedy the problem?
Eli Davis
A single Riptide cannot beat a Hierodule without some very lucky rolls.
A Riptide Wing can probably do it without too much issue.
Joshua Kelly
No, the problem is it's supposed to be a fucking vehicle.
Dylan Johnson
Then it's even harder for some armies to kill it.
Adam Diaz
So do we actually know who the current Fabricator General is?
Anthony Martinez
Give me a single example.
Matthew Edwards
Thank you to those who helped in the poll last thread. After consideration I started looking for more names for my Kabal and while "Kabal of the Fractured Soul" won the poll, I found that "Kabal of the Torn Soul" rolls off the tongue better.
So I've decided to name my Kabal, the Kabal of the Torn Soul.
Pic related is a 2 second Photoshop mock-up of what I'm thinking for the Sigil.
Adam Robinson
Angron.
Asher Perry
Is 250 points on a contemptor worth it?
Andrew Robinson
Make it an AV13/12/10 Walker, still with its Invulnerable save, with 5 Hull Points and a special rule that lets it move as Jump Infantry. Failing a Nova Reactor roll means it just takes a glance with no saves allowed.
Hunter Wood
Dark Eldar :^)_______________________________
Luis Myers
This. At least one person in this thread knows what is going on.
Carter Ward
For the love of god just port all other walkers out of their outdated shitty rules already.
Lucas Anderson
180, jfc
>captcha 3435 modelorama
Chase Brooks
>13/12/10 and it keeps its save and nova w e w 12/12/10 at most lad
Matthew Mitchell
>and a special rule that lets it move as Jump Infantry. Jet Infantry, but otherwise yes, this would do it.
Noah Mitchell
Between its 2+ armour and FNP roll, a Riptide can soak up a lot of poison shots. Making it a vehicle means we can fuck it over with Haywire Blaster-equipped Scourges, or lock it out of the game with shakes and stuns.
Brody Diaz
I think it should be 11/11/11
Daniel King
That's the joke friend
Robert Davis
Dubs gives my Patriarch a name.
Charles Brown
Orks cannot deal with a jet-packing walker. Their anti-tank is mostly short range and/or in close combat. At least now they can whittle it down. Dark Eldar would find it more problematic too.
Ultimately, Riptides should not be vehicles. They should just be costed appropriately.
Zachary Martinez
Yeah sorry, Jet is what I meant.
It's like twice the size of a Dread, and don't pretend most armies wouldn't be killing it with Lances, Melta, or Haywire anyway.
Brayden Brown
I fucking hope the make these fucks vehicles in 8th. Imagine all the awesome unpainted Tau armies available on ebay.
Jordan Davis
Yeah, I'd much prefer that. The Walker rules are god damn terrible and there is basically no walker that wouldn't be happier as a monstrous creature.
Jacob Edwards
:^)
Henry Lopez
Rhagos
Lincoln Campbell
>Ultimately, Riptides should not be vehicles.
It's a giant walker piloted by a crewman. It's a vehicle. It should be a vehicle.
Aaron Mitchell
I'd rather them just shove it in a new category.
But I've often seen Ork players just bypass it and save it for last since the bulk of Tau units lack as much mobility as a Riptide.
James Miller
Bob from Accounting.
He went undercover and by the time they were ready to overthrow the planet, it'd stuck.
Gabriel Phillips
Not him but 12 Front armour doesn't really represent the 2+ save well. As long as the sides aren't above 12 I think it's fine.