How to win a land war against a big country like us or china?

>just bring the coasts under heel and you will cut the head off the snake

Why nuke it mate? Just use a chemical weapon.

When you're going to break all rules of war, better do it well.

The last time a super-power came to navally invade our shit was Great Britain,with the mightiest navy in the world. They barely managed to get to the whitehouse and burn it before we kicked them out

>pretty sure you could nuke the heartland and nothing of value would be lost
Yeah, who needs about half the food supply anyways?

Only because they have ports.

Subsidized corn farmer please go

I am American you idiot. Look at a map of population densities.

That's why you use (short acting) chemical weapons. Kill the people, land remains safe for use.

Californian detected

California offers very little in terms of military might. Nuking the heartland of America would not only fuck the US over, but large parts of the world as America's breadbasket feeds the country, as well as outright destroying almost all exports of food, which the US does in droves.

California's only strategic or military purpose is having ports. That's it.

>nuke the heartland and nothing of value would be lost as long as the East Coast and California are okay.
>I hate food

Wouldn't the coastal region's be able to just keep getting reinforcements from inland, because the country is so huge?

Considering wars have been fought over access to ports and considering America's pacific fleet I'd say that's a pretty noteworthy purpose

>Virginia and the Carolinas weren't founded as agricultural colonies

Yes but only because china has 3 billion people and could just start mass-producing AK-47s to win any defensive war

Unfortunately you cannot eat tobacco or cannabis for sustenance.

I think we both found out that navies aren't much use on land.

Depends, High population non-coastal states such as the rustbelt present a major problem but the midwest has such a small population that they are a literal non issue. So if you are somehow able to pacify the coasts (no small feat by any means, probably impossible for any single nation in the world today) you would probably have to make a move on the rust belt. This is assuming that we are including Texas as a coastal state, if they aren't pacified immediately then lol

You totally can. When harvested and per-processed but not tried they are consumable alright. It's just really not viable financially.

no one WINS a war with weapons of mass destruction against people with weapons of mass destruction. Anything short of utterly annihilating the enemy without them ever reaching your borders will not even be considered a victory due to the standard set by vietnam. The united states could be occupied and buttfucked for 50 years and barely survive and the offending country would not have technically "won". Obviously any sort of nuclear exchange would rule this out.

This was in 1812 though, so they had other things to be worrying about.
Like this Napoleon guy

You can eat cannabis for sustenance. You just need to pack a lot of fat along with it. The THC and cannabinoids won't get absorbed unless they're dissolved in fat.

Depends on what kind of WMD...

I'm willing to bet that I can beat the USA armed with nukes if I get a big bad bucket of grey goo.

New WMD's > old WMD's.

California produces a shit ton of food.

slate.com/articles/health_and_science/explainer/2013/07/california_grows_all_of_our_fruits_and_vegetables_what_would_we_eat_without.html

Vietnam doesn't necessarily set the standard you say it does. A key determining factor of Vietnam was that the united states was never able to sever the leadership of the opposition, the government of north Vietnam because it would spark WWIII.

>with the mightiest navy in the world
And what about the army?

An accurate plan if you include the Southern Coast of the US, and the Dallas-Austin-San Antonio triangle. That leaves only a few major cities in the Midwest, so the war isn't over till those are subjugated as well.

Considering USA was barely 40 years old I'd say it's a pretty good victory to beat the #1 super power twice in a row.

They were being disrespectful and outright kidnapping american sailors. they're fault they started shit in the middle of the Napoleonic wars and got beat.

(You can argue it was a tie because the USA didn't get canada. But then think how awesome the USA is today, and think how much more awesome it would be if it included canadian territory)

I wouldn't call that sustenance as much as entertainment, my friend. And think how bad the munchies would be

Ironically it is the United states who have formed probably the most effective method of invading the united states in the form of the Anaconda plan.

Stir dissent in government of the country and push one of the competing factions into militarization eventually escalating into a coup d etat. Send your forces in to support new government (make sure you have official invitation so UN can't say shit) and maintain stability of the country. Once in there begin purge from the inside and replace all people of power with your loyal subjects.

That's like pointing to a tumor and saying it must be the most important organ in the body because of how fast it's growing.

Well, I always knew California was full of fruits. But I really didn't expect this would also cover agricultural side of things.

If you're doing this on the scale of the US or China why care about the UN

>people are cancer

While I agree with characterizing the coasts as a tumor, the fact remains that the coasts are where the vast majority of the United states infrastructure, wealth, and Government institutions are located due to what I assume is a organized effort to shift the wealth of the nation into coastal states over the past 40-50 years.

Obviously needs improvement. GB was never about the army anyways.

We still dished serious pain to GB's navy. Old Ironsides is in service still today for it.

>liberals are people

> implying shitskins are people

>got beat.
America won nothing and got their capital burned to the ground.
When facing the enemies arse-end troops, while their main army fought someone else.

How is this a victory again?

>Trusting a liberal magazine not to sing California's praises night and day.

>We still dished serious pain to GB's navy
OP asked about a land war

how will we pay for all the niggers if ww3 starts?

>Mexicans and Leftist fucksticks
>Not cancer

No problem mate, I got some cookies for you right here.

>i prefer to just stop at the butter, that way i can make some nice sandwiches that get me high as a kite
>also, no one objects when i start eating my sandwiches near the end of the GM session

>win a land war against US

HAHAHAHAHA

not even the Indians could do that, get fucked

Because they got Britain to stop impressing sailors and to stop arming aggressive native tribes? Wars can be about things other than conquest user

>"We burnt a building down we won the war" meme again.
If you think GB won 1812 you have to also think USA won Vietnam

If you nuked California the US would be vastly improved. There's a reason why the neighboring states like Arizona are itching to send over death squads to clean the place out. California does nothing but suck up resources and export criminal illegals to other states.

>leftists
>in the usa

That's like saying Russia has actual people in its borders.

The opposite isn't true either

I'd prefer actual socialism to the cultural marxism we have in the more rotten parts of the USA

The US was winning in Vietnam. It just lost on the home front.

>Nuking the place that controls the electronics industry
>Nuking the place that produces the vast majority of fruits and vegetables for the US
>Nuking the 6th largest economy in the world >Vast improvement

Implying that the West Coast wouldn't be perfectly fine without all your dumbasses fighting any sort of progress tooth and nail, terribly sorry for trying to improve your lives

Which is why everyone who isn't being a nationalist about it calls it a stalemate.

Limited in scope and with massive technological advantage.
Also make sure they're really what you want to be fighting- and not for example a wealthy merchant empire in the opposite direction.

>If you nuked California the entire planet would be vastly improved

FTFY

That's not even close to true. Do you seriously think everything important is on the coasts? Chicago alone is the third most populated city in the country and a huge center for transportation and industry. Then you have places like Indianapolis, Detroit, St. Louis, Memphis, Columbus, Huston. There's a lot of stuff in the interior.

The heartland is where most of our food is produced, as well as lots of manufacturing. Its also huge, less centralized and therefor harder to secure, has a lot of easy transportation in the form of rivers and highways, and has a higher concentration of guns. We also keep a lot of our air-force in the region. It would be a monumental task to bring it under your control and until you do owning the coasts ain't gonna mean shit.

>cultural marxism
>he actually believes that retarded /pol/ shit

You do realise that the reason you won't find any real socialism in the USA is because you're being led to believe that "cultural marxism" has rotted the USA? That's how the system in the USA works. Keep the people dumb and placated with nice conspiracy theories.

They'd rather deal with Trump than worry about the Rust Belt going all Comrade Bernie.

Also being 10% of the population, 12% of the economy, and a major trade conduit, but I'm sure those have never mattered in a war before.

> Implying that the West Coast wouldn't be perfectly fine without all your dumbasses fighting any sort of progress tooth and nail

> progress
So importing huge waves of shitskins and getting them all on welfare to drain the country dry is apparently "progress" for you leftists.

> terribly sorry for trying to improve your lives
Name a single fucking thing that California has done to "improve" anything that couldn't have just as easily come from a less shitty state.

>West coast would be fine.

I'm sorry but the largest state on the west came crying to the federal government recently for money to fix a spill way they should've been taking care of in the first place. If its so good, Why not take care of all those poor illegals and make sure everything is in tip top shape?

Go Genghis Khan on them.

Highly mobile army with a tiny logistics footprint, massive civilian casualties when people make you actually fight rather than just surrender.

Wait for (or actively create) political disunity. The specific wedge issue you use doesn't matter, as long as people in the country start hating each other and begin to fight.

Then, when things come to a head, ally yourself with one group against the other. They can provide you with guidance and logistics that would be impossible if you had to figure out everything from scratch in hostile territory.

Once the "enemy" group is destroyed, you will be perfectly positioned to destroy or manipulate your "allies" with impunity, since your army has already been let into all the most secure places.

That's called losing the war. It doesn't matter if you 'win' battles, you have to turn that into a political victory.

I didn't say that - as user says, any reasonable person would call it a stalemate, which it was

> DURR THAT'S NOT REALLY SOCIALISM!
Every single time. Every single time you leftists try socialism and it fails spectacularly you claim that it was never really tried.

I'm not an american but he mentioned the electronics industry as an example of something california does, and no piece of land on earth has any inherant value, the shit that has been done there does, so your point that "Hurrka fucking durr it could be done in any state" could be said about the merits of any state for any criterea.

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>Name a single fucking thing that California has done to "improve" anything that couldn't have just as easily come from a less shitty state.
I'm not even American, and I'm already laughing. Holy fucking shit, some of you central Americans really aren't very smart.

> I'm not an american
Then shut the fuck up about things you know nothing about.

Fuck off dipshit, me living in Britain doesn't make your argument any less shit.

I'm not saying "that's not real socialism".

I'm saying that cultural marxism doesn't exist. It's a boogeyman made up by your corporate overlords.

Underrated post

I'd just like to point out t hat America was only 40 years old at the time and it's first ever declaration of war was against the biggest guy on the block. And they managed to STALEMATE it. Even though half of the country was openly against the war.

Red Skull is woke as fuck. Are we sure he's supposed to be the villain? Isn't he just some German conscript who fled to America after WW2 and learned to love his new country?

The original idea of communism can be boiled down to "Means of production in the hands of the workers", not "means of production in the hands of the state"

That's an incomplete statement you buffoon! The second part, between the two sentence fragments you have there, is "never post an OP with an image more interesting than the text"

Because the money we send to the FED is greater than your state's GDP.

Because it's definitely welfare that's draining this country dry, yep certainly not the war that we literally cannot win and the military industrial complex that uses up over half of all our taxes

Also Google but you might say that it could be done by a "less shitty state" (it wasn't) but just in case, the deep water port at San Diego, vital to international trade and to our Pacific Fleet

Are you talking about that same dam that started as a federal project and then had to be handed over and funded by the state in order to complete, the one they should have been taking care of from the very beginning? And let's not even get into the crumbling infrastructure around the country, lets wait until some more of that breaks down and see how many states go begging to the feds

I mean, you won't.

In the scene you posted he used the people he turned to his cause as suicide bombers. And even then he didn't particularly care about what he was describing outside a propaganda tool. He's a terrorist playing on people's fears to further his own goal of world domination, and you bought it.

And he was always a high ranking Nazi who hated the US.

Not him but I never really cared for when capeshit tried to be political. It always leads to situations like the pic I'm posting.

Edgelords are dumb. Go figure.

Stop this shit. The truth is that the states are all reliant on each other, no single one can make it one their own. The huge businesses on the coast are reliant on the manufacturing and agriculture in the interior to produce their products and food and shipping, while the interior needs the coastal ports to provide markets and buyers for the stuff it makes. The whole reason the US still exists is because the states do better together then they would on their own.

Yeah, as wars go it's not a bad result really. And at the end there were a few tactical victories that meant it ended on a high for the US (hence Star Spangled Banner, USS Constitution etc.)

That page never fails to make me laugh.

Neither do the shrieks of outrage from /pol/fags about [OBVIOUS JOKES].

Where's the part where Cap tells Red Skull to eat it?

There is a part where Cap tells Red Skull to eat it, right?

What's the original?

That is the original. It's not edited.

Not this time.