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That's fine but why the hell did you bother listing the two different summoning types and shit and not include the summoner class itself

Ask away.

I have run many games and feel rather comfortable with answering questions.

I had every intention, at the start, to translate literally everything for Grancrest. And so I started with the rules, because I need context for when I'm translating what interacts with those rules.

Unfortunately, Mages require a lot of extra work due to their spells (they have only slightly less skills than non-Mages, but then two entire branches of Magic each). Then Summoner, well. Summoner has spells, and then enemy data to go with those spells, and then the second branch also uses Projection Items, which requires even more data. I just scanned it all in, it's 42 pages of data (less like 5 or so for rules explanations of that data).

Also, here's those 42 pages.

mediafire.com/file/g45g16692cg76fp/Grancrest_Summoner_Raws.rar

Thanks for the raws.

Dude, post dungeon maps, or tell us stories, or something.

let me see if I got my maps around.

Stories I can tell.

This is one of maps that I have reused a lot of times because why not. It's got a decent mix of traps and fighting for a first encounter more or less. As you can there's a lot of stuff to collect and it's very Monte hallish with all this shiny crap.

It's intentional since the way how I run it is to rush past like the first 3 levels and then slow down a bit. The reason for that being that I want players to have fun starting their planned builds due to the skill system being 1 skill per level and having 2 levels lets them starting dipping into their job's skill tree what not and also the items and extra money lets them start having fun with building the facilities since I also gave a generous sum of cash at the end of this session. the other reason for rushing up several levels is also so I can design more elaborate dungeons, use more monsters, and more traps etc.

Anyways the set-up for this is pretty simple:
>OC Donut steel of Gordon Ramsey pops up
>Tells the court about his credentials and fantastic search for cooking exotic stuff
>Tells them about this ancient ruin that's like a self-sustained agricultural facility underground.
>Said facility has amazing shit in it that he'd like to access but can't because monsters
>party enters and conquers it gaining some phat lewt,territory with some farms, monster citizens, and their first prodigy/talent

Anyways I'm gonna find my other map and tell you the story of the one time I almost TPK'd my group trying to give the knight a challenge.

>I've fallen out of love with Grancrest
Care to elaborate why?

Mind it's all just my opinion, but the system design isn't very interesting to me. At first it seemed interesting, but I was in sort of a new shiny phase with JRPGs, I suppose. After playing two campaigns out to level 7, however, the math progressively starts to break down. Paladins and Undead become completely unkillable, and by extension, so does the party (if you have one of those anyway, which you probably will). The Paladin in one game could get defenses up to around 80 if allowed, and that was before Radiant Shield Wall epic use. So in order to threaten the tank at all, you needed to make enemies that could one shot, and I mean "past near dead 3" any other character.

Moreover the other sort of boring design elements got to me. For example in that Summoner raws .rar, the second skill Summoners get access to is a skill that gives them +1D on the hit checks for their Instant Summons. It has a max level of 5. Why? Because at level 5, you get another +1D for a total of +2D! So... you have to sink four levels of abilities into it before it even gives you some other effect. It's a weird way to have 'dead levels--in the skills themselves.

Mass combat feels clunky and not well implemented. It's not likely enemies will actually be able to knock a PC down, particularly when there's a Paladin or Undead at play, so their Morale just tanks straight away. PCs can get away with not having a Lord dedicate some of her skill picks to mass combat morale stuff, enemies cannot.

The Chaos level mechanic feels like it's under used. Despite the fact there's nothing in the game preventing a Mage from jacking the Chaos total up to 10, which is apparently 'never before been recorded', this has absolutely no downside. Enemies, even Chaos enemies, are not affected by this at all. Moreover, Lords using their abilities don't purge Chaos levels. The mechanic feels like it's just... there.

There's next to no GM support, as well.

Well I wish I had my map for this session but eh.
Right so the story of the near tpk.

My party consisted of the king, knight, vizier, ninja, and priest. The king was the scholar (doctor), vizier was a dagger wielding summoner that would occasionally crit like a god, ninja was a chef who rolled like crap, priest was doing the laser cleric build and was a hunter? Then there was the knight who's job was the warrior I think and who became the combat beast.

My knight player is on a roll constantly as she murders her way through most encounters using the carnage skill and her great sword. And I'm not having any of that as I want the combat to not be so auto piloted. As my players fell into a very comfortable routine where my King would use monsterology on like the biggest cluster of enemies, vizier might uses minor shift maybe to bring in an extra enemy into the cluster and the knight charges and uses carnage to mow down. It was beautifully efficient but a bit too automated for my tastes. So I set to make a harder dungeon that would noticeably make it harder for the knight to carry so much.

So I begin to consult the book to see what monsters and traps I'd use to make a challenging scenario. For those not familiar with Meikyuu the Gm' section has a handy chart called the "threat placement table" which gives a recommendations based on player amount and average level about monsters, traps, boss level, and boss room mooks. So I saw the where my players were and I saw that 9 was like the highest level recommended for the boss. So I smiled smugly and began to prepare my session thinking about how I'd set it up.
>What could go possibly wrong
>Protip:It does

TBC.

So is this something that if you like the concept/fuff you port into like GURPS or something?

Yeah, I'd say so.

Oh, and also even though Grancrest is getting *an entire anime adaptation* they haven't updated their FAQ or errata since May 2015. Their email to send in questions is even shut down. So, yeah.

Looks like my intuition was spot-on then.
After I got over the initial "This looks super interesting" phase, I got the feeling there was something off about the system.

That's pretty weird considering that like isn't the rpg part of the LN's merch? You'd think they might be trying to crank out a new ed. Also disappointing about system falling apart later but not terribly surprised given how many skills with dead levels and shit. Shame about mass combat I really liked how your skills would "scale" into mass combat so like that big AoE arrow rain now becomes a sun blotting army killing rain of arrows.

I'd still play grancrest but probably not as a very long term deal, I wonder if there's a way to do the crunch better so it's not as clunky and boring?

Anyway back to storytime.

So first things first and that is to see the what monster is the boss is gonna be. So I flip around the pages trying to find a level 9 monster and just for the sake of something that looked cool I flip through the scans of the raws of meikyuu for the art and find the Monoceros, which is a rad metallic rhinoceros. Statwise it's pretty beastly as it sports a solid stat block with high health, good defense and plenty of nasty skills such as: being able to hit someone one space back, a charge, and cortex which I thought would be good at slowing down the knight from re-enacting her human blender act.

With boss chosen I get down to make my map and scenario. The story is simple and is pretty much ripped from monster hunter; the monoceros is rampaging and this neighboring town failed to contain it and now its in the swamp filled with monsters. Players are tasked with rescuing the scattered soldiers who failed to trap it in the swamp and then kill it. New monsters are introduced with status effects particularly the monsters with poison such as the fungusaur and giant bat. I also used treants, a wolfpack, and fireflies to round out the hostile encounters. The monceros had an entourage of horselizards because it had become their -drome.

I think I'm hitting char limit so I'll be back after dinner to post more of the story

Trapwise it's nothing but pits and a teleporter, with pits represent the pit traps that failed to capture the monoceros. The telerporter is just to help them rush to the boss zone without need to waste time moving about. Now n spite of me selecting a boss that kinda works against the knight I was so unmerciful to let them go at it without some help. I had intended for my priest to get a hold of some armor piercing bullets for use and for the the party to find a trap encyclopedia to use against the boss.

So the party enters the swamp and stuff is going is pretty fine, fights are a bit more trickier with status effects and some monsters are just tougher to take down which prevents the carnage spam. Items are found, traps discovered, soldiers rescued. Monsters are cooked in special meals due to the ninja chef (The chef gimmick is fun and also leads to a house rule of stacking items just so they can play with monster meal effects) I was excited once they got the final solider who basically teleported them to the penultimate chamber and gave them the trap book.

And I'm gonna dump the last half next post so I can be done with this.

And now for some mood music: youtube.com/watch?v=cYuyWqp_4Dw

Combat start and the monsters go first due to the boss which is no biggy. Party starts doing their routine with the knight charging and those horselizard were mincemeat. Now comes the real challenge, the monceros. Predictably the cortex effect dampens most if not all damage into plinks. A futile struggle begins as they're not hitting the to hits and their damage obviously is limited. I encourage the priest to shoot the damn monster with the AP bullet but not only does he miss he also fumbles the roll to keep it after use. King uses the trap encyclopedia to put it asleep I believe which lets the party wail on it. Anyway the rhino wakes and it becomes my turn to attack. The party is playing defensively with their positioning. Everyone but the vizier is hanging back. Knight obviously is in deep against the rhino and is also the only one in range for attack. The monoceros grunts and majestically lowers its head. It's a charge attack but with what happens next.

I roll the dice and get boxcars
>vague feeling that this is a bad idea floats in
roll on crit chart and get a knockback effect
>Still think this can't get too bad. Time for damage roll!
>17
>[panic intensifies]
Knights players blown the fuck out as despite her armor the character.
"Well at least she has the wound chart to see if she can.."
>rolls a 3 and fails the quest check
>dies
>FUCK
And then we all start panicking.

At this point the game screeches to a halt because in spite of the rerolls with drive she fails her rolls, feeling that it would be too dickish to have the character die I fiat the character to be Ko'd or some shit and this conversation involving gm fiat and trying to give her a bunch of rerolls to not die takes like five minutes to go through. Anyway t this point it's time for plan B. And plan B is to pin all hopes on the vizier using his daggers to crit the damn thing, and if that was to fail plan c would be trying to crit it again and possibly burning voice of the people until they win or die.

So vizier saunted up to the monoceros and shanks the bastard and low and behold he gets that fucking 11 which is all he needs to trigger the crit chart.
>Rolls dice
gets a 9
>"You've knocked your enemy to the brink of death. Instead of dealing damage, you may reduce the target's HP to 1d6
Everyone gets hype and I play some hype music on roll20's jukebox back before it got neutered. Also around this time frame we were arguing over who'd get the monster skill from lunch and at this very moment it's decide vizer gets it and the skill to be used is Poison blow.
>vizier rolls a 1
The hype further intensifies and due to the attack being a crit I rule that the monoceros gets poisoned and then after the vizier ends his turn I have it take the point of damage killing it and thus ending the fight before it kills the vizier. We're all very much happy he managed with a last minute clutch.

All hail the vizier chosen one of RNGesus!

The End.

So yeah I totally learned my lesson to not try and force a high level monster in an effort to prevent a player from dominating too heavily in combat. Holy shit that was dumb a thing to do.

fucking lol
I love it

Well nice to know my tale amused someone.

Also hoping the raws get eventually translated. The baroque campaign gimmick with the train gimmick seems interesting and fun and the replay material seems neat as well.

please live to tomorrow
will meikyuu kingdom's fluff, especially monster flavor text, ever find a kind soul to translate it?
some of those monsters are goddamn bizarre

I met a translator working with Bouken Planning Service at Spiel Essen and he hinted that something official was in the works, so you might get your fluff that way.
As for fan translations, I wouldn't hold my breath. Mechanics are infinitely easier to translate than fluff and much more important for playing, so translating fluff is a rather thankless endeavor.

Most of the monsters are loosely based on various mythologies, others on really bad puns.
If you have any particular monsters you want to know about, I may be able to give some answers.

Was this the translation to be done by Goons?
Cuz that fell apart rather badly.

On the other hand if it's a new try than that's cool. Hopefully when it's inevitably on kickstarter they can do all the supplementary rules

>Goons
Who?

In 2013 there was an announcement that meikyuu would get translated by this company called Lanternworks unlimited. These people were users of Something Awful and hung in the same thread Andy K and Ewen Cluney did . This user of the name aldantefox was spearheading it seems and also posted here talking about their translation job.

I know about Lanternworks Unlimited. No, nobody at the Bouken Planning Service stand seems to have even heard of them.

Why did you use "Goons", capitalized no less?

Still curious as to who "AmyV" is.

>haven't heard of them

>This exists
bouken.jp/s13/images/press_release2013_Lanternworks.pdf

What's going on

>Why did you use "Goons", capitalized no less?
"Goons" are what the people on the Something Awful forums call themselves. It's supposed to be vaguely self-depreciating.

Any number of reasons.

>change of staff
>unwillingness to admit such a blunder
>just plain forgot about it after three years of silence

Okay. How do you expect people outside of that insular community to know?

>being this new to the internet

Nice story, but I would highly recommend against fudging deaths. If they don't want to lose progress, they had better build a Bar.

>reading comprehension

>basic communication ability

>greentext

Hopeful bump attempt

Keeping this thread alive because I still want to know what the hell meant.

Those look way better than mine.
Do you have a full set?

Their community's long history of promoting sexual abuse is also really worth remarking on.

somethingsensitive.com/index.php?topic=1398.0

No set, just making them myself as best I can with the paint dot net program
Which is also why the text box font sizes keep changing
>please let me post, I promise this isn't spam

I really should sit down and read this book so I can run a game. It seems like a blast.

I'm told it's fun and some silly, but I've frontloaded all this work, and now I'm too anxious for when I actually get to run it.

So can someone tell me what the skill in the picture does?

And also is it basically this video: youtube.com/watch?v=EkIJYrjUYyQ ?

When your husbando/waifu deals damage to someone you can spend 1 hope to move to the area that they are in and make an attack against the same character.

Yes, it is basically that video.

Neat! Are there any checks or is it just spend the point and warp in to attack?

Anyway I'm gonna dump the pertinent pages of the marriage section just in case anyone else is curious.

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And done.

I'd repost page 226 for neatness but I can't.

pixiv.net/novel/show.php?id=7782855

Someone made a basic Kemono Friends themed system here it seems.

My heart wouldn't be able to survive one session

Do they really expect you to rotate the book constantlly to read it

Are the marriage rules from the replay book that was put up?

To my knowledge, that one thing came from a replay. The actual Meikyuu books are really big to have room enough to all point the right way. Replays are way smaller books.

Here's a blank page for Facilities for Meikyuu Kingdom.
Does anyone have any props, like monster tokens, or trap tokens, or anything at all to improve an in-person game?
Or maybe some advice or rules or something to keep immediately handy, besides what's already on character sheets?

Yes. The replay has more rules and they consist of many thing which I'll list along with a summary gleaned from a
You got rules for: marriage which was shown and also includes something about descendants, religion, holding festivals, a magic subsystem, and monster pcs

translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https://www18.atwiki.jp/makeyou_kingdom/pages/88.html&edit-text=&act=url gives some more elaboration.

Also I'm gonna start dumping the magic section just in the off chance someone can read the sections and give some sort of overview on how it even operates. Interestingly enough there's another expansion of the magic with Baroque Campaign if the title of "cantrip" can be trusted.

It's what said. The book is rather small and any cards tend to be positioned sideways to fit into the pages.

I use coins, toys, and small snack foods as proxies for units on the battle mat. Snacks are best proxies cuz you can eat the dead units. Also for offline gaming I tend to bring a fat stack of printed out sections of the rules separated into different units for ease of reading. Now that there's cards with the translated text on them I'm thinking about using them but I'm kinda worried about some of the more NFSW type art especially the fucking lamia that has a dude licking her tit.

>Now that there's cards with the translated text on them
Link, please

Not mine and they're nowhere set in stone due to minor edits happening. With that caveat out of the way: mega:#!bMhggTRJ!csfxlvFWnwLeHkzzHBee_5LF07rnQqZ1k3Q3Y0LxEAU

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Holy shit, thank you

The magic section is by far the longest chunk of the additional rules in the replay with the monster pc section being second.

you're welcome

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Mmm dub dubs

And now we get to these spell cards which look like some madlibs stuff with these blanks to fill.

And one more page of cards before the magic section ends and the religion section begins.

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Speaking of minor edits:
Think I should add a border around the images? So far, I haven't bothered to add anything but the images and the data.

sure, however I'd think you should re-edit the item cards as they are currently a mess with regards to the materials listed.

The translation of the meikyuu gives material lists if applicable to items so you can craft them. The cards list materials but it doesn't specify if it's for crafting or not and secondly if those are the crafting costs they look incorrect and don't match the book. For example Excalibur in the book has no mat listing because it can only be obtained from adventures but in the cards it lists meat in the mats which doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

I just took the text from the translation and put it on cards. If you have a list of corrections, I'll work it in.

Okay, I take that back.
An error snuck into my nandeck script and it accidentally used the material entries from the regular item for the rare items. Will fix that presently.

Here's the updated link:
mega.nz/#!TcY3iaYJ!3JzQS0AbjdNHgzQ0Yz25_QoJrT7XudHk-ZWK5ZCHD98

thanks. I'll make a list of things to edit some time late.

Also pic is the new kingdom shit you use for the module in Baroque Campaign.

A train? Is this some Metro Khan business?

I want to ironically play this

Possibly. The scenario has you going on a dungeon road trip which uses an organic locomotive monster to pull your carriages which also are your kingdom's territory.

I'm gonna dump two pages that preface the scenario and hopefully someone can tell us if those two explain the gimmick better and hopefully to can be reused to create a more challenging variant where you need to be absolute in what facilities you want.

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I wonder what item combo would be best for a whip sword.

Anyway in case the two pages don't give info on how to use the train here's a link with two pages at the beginning of the splat.
my.mixtape.moe/fwyyyd.pdf

Also reason why the pages are pdf is this was my first scan and I thought it would be better to have pages as individual pdfs as I would be merging them into a single pdf.

Anyway I gotta go, and hopefully I can get answers to my choo choo stuff

Giant Allege when?

I'm still waiting

You misspelled Gundam Senki.

The heck is that?

I'm still waiting for Colossal Hunter. That looks amazing.

PvP dice game where you play as lawyers in post-apocalyptic Australia who solved court cases with giant robot fights

I mean it might be cool but on the other hand it's still Mekton Zeta which itself needs to be ditched or fixed from the ground up

Yeah I'm looking forward to play it. From the looks of it looks like a more socially acceptable version of nechronica with a neat gimmick of the battle field being different levels of the monster you're fighting

>Colossal Hunter
Never heard of this. Give me some info/website links.

Is the translation of that progressing?

I think it's like monster hunter but in a post-apoc sci-fi setting and also you turn into a monster if you gass out or something

No translation seems to be happening atm.

Huh. I thought I heard someone mention it in the Kamigakari thread. Oh well.

The book has been bought and scanned, but we currently do not have anyone actively working on its translation.

I'd appreciate if you could give me that list sooner, rather than later, because I need to print and prep those cards for Saturday.

Up off page 10.