Last time on Song of Swords: The usual guy didn't make a new thread. I don't even remember what happened in the last thread. Something about genosus and helicopters.
Song of Swords is a a tabletop RPG centered around realistic medieval fightan' with a ludicrous variety of weapons and fighting styles, centered around a dice pool system. It's currently in beta, and can be used for both fantasy and historical games. Kickstarter is happening NOW we are kicking ass baby!
Call of the Void: Ballad of the Laser Whales is a pulpy sci-fi tabletop RPG about fighting space-nazis and hunting giant whales with harpoons made out of the moon. Its combat system is more modern, based in the early 20th century, but can probably handle combat up to the present day.
MEGA folder containing current version of the game and all supplementary materials. Note that the latest version of the game is v1.9.9 but with additional supplements. It's NOT what's currently on Opaque's website, because Jimmy is Jimmy. mega.nz/#F!S89jTT7J!ozFi9GvzaFGHfBa59Ik2-Q
There's also a roll20 room where new players are encouraged to try the rules, test new rules, and find game breaking issues: app.roll20.net/join/346755/hRKd4w If you're looking to learn, post here in the thread. We also play Guy Windsor's card game Audatia in the room.
>Last time on Song of Swords: The usual guy didn't make a new thread. I've been here since the beginning though. It's getting kinda late here though. And some other excuses.
We talked about God's that weren't the big ten, and no one mentioned that goddess of death and cancer that we woke up when we killed Sulla.
Thomas Allen
Anecdotal evidence isn't the best. There's also an anecdote of a Saracen impaling two Crusaders in full maille and padding in one couched charge (the lance having completely gone through them both).
Julian Jackson
Character submission for the tournament
There's actually 8 PCP in attributes, with how 7 and 8 cost double for this tournament's rules
Josiah Gonzalez
>Escher builds doomsday weapons for a girl he likes >Gets called a nerd >Uses the machines to make everyone around him miserable
Caleb King
Love makes fools of us all, even Dr Doom.
Luke Collins
hey i made a legendary japanese warrior please fight me
Liam Lopez
actually i need someone to teach me how to fight because i sure as shit dont know
Jonathan Howard
I would join, but I consistently roll like shit on r20. I've been killed by literal trashmobs due to my consistent jobbering. Life sucks.
Austin Watson
>that goddess of death and cancer that we woke up when we killed Sulla. What?
Nathan Robinson
So how, as a GM, do I rules-wise go about using this system for a hardcore game about the Norman conquest of Sicily? How much does each strength point above the base represent proportionally, and thus where would I want to realistically cap it?
And the blunt penetration rule being used for maille, where can I find that?
Thomas Lee
Cap it at 10 if you want the people to hit the human peak. Otherwise 8 or 9.
From Jimmy: >As for the difference between people in different walks of life--I'd say a soft person with a non-manual job who hasn't every really done anything physical in his life except maybe play some games as a kid or whatever (in other words the average NEET) would probably have 2-3 in his physical stats, as opposed to the average 4-5 for a medieval laborer.
Colton Sullivan
Also from Jimmy:
>8 strength is stronger than any man you have ever met. >10 strength is the strongest man you can reasonably imagine. >13 strength is so ridiculously strong that you would assume the claims of such feats of strength are fairy tales until you actually see Björnsson throw a barrel eight meters into the air.
Christopher Powell
8 seems reasonable then, as I doubt anybody in the 11th-12th centuries would have had the simple nutrition to get to 10 as it sounds. People could get ripped back in the day, but not THAT ripped without protein shakes and science-informed nutritional diets.
Easton Martinez
Cap it at 6
>And the blunt penetration rule being used for maille, where can I find that It should be right before all the armor tables. What you do is: when cutting damage comes at metal armor, just inflict a bludgeoning wound instead of a cutting one.
Dominic Howard
Oh, well that's simple of enough. Thanks.
Cameron Cruz
That's not all of it:
>Whenever a cutting weapon inflicts damage to an area protected by Hard armor, change it to bludgeoning damage, but still resolve it against the Cutting AV of the armor. At the GM’s discretion, if the damage inflicted exceeds TOU+AV by 4 or more, it may cleave through the armor and inflict a cutting wound
Benjamin White
Someone statted out the Dragonslayer/Dark Souls Greatsword as this:
Ultra Greatsword/Dragonslayer: Sword 2H | EL | 7(+6c) | 8(+4p) | 8(0) | Heavy Weapon, Freakishly Large, AP Swing 4, Crushing 4, Shock 4, AP 4 against supernatural defences later on in Berserk | Wt. 8
Possibly requiring STR 9 or 10 instead of 8.
How would you stat out the Crypt Blacksword from Dark Souls 2?
Very Long Length? What about ATN and damage?
Ryan Wood
You could copy the way Band of Bastards does it. It doesn't translate perfectly to SoS, but it may help. When cutting or piercing damage hits armor, convert it to bludgeoning but still resolve it against the AVC or AVP. If the metal armor is also rigid - not mail but think of a metal helmet - then the bludgeoning wound inflicted is capped at a level 3.
Christopher Hernandez
Discretion is a nice note. Although the only weapons at the time that would "cleave" would be axes.
James Cruz
How would you stat Moonstone armor? As Orichalum but +10 Bludgeoning AV instead?
In one of the fechts we ran a guy named Camillus who attacked a monastery with a bunch of Romans, killed a Silver Guard and a Paladin (the Paladin was Sulla) and then unleashed some sort of ancient sumerian plague demon that killed him and all of the Romans.
Hell of a cliffhanger.
Jason Anderson
Oh shit, I remember that. That was like 2 years ago
Jason Kelly
>King has superstitions taken straight from Veeky Forums Riffing on the Donte face?
Camden Garcia
>see Björnsson throw a barrel eight meters into the air. I want to see this. Is it on YouTube?
That type of strength doesn't translate into being able to slice through plate armor with a sword
Logan Sanders
But it does translate to knocking people prone and/or stunning them.
A 12G slug might not penetrate a bulletproof vest, but it'll sure as hell shatter anything behind it.
James Phillips
perhaps SoS should model that instead of making bodybuilders into fantasy heroes
Gabriel Morris
Or you could do what any intelligent person would do and translate it to the bludgeoning table. If you're not fond of that, then try the unarmed table.
Ayden Sanders
>implying SoS having STR add to damage without end is intelligent Ok kid
Luis Ross
These arguments stopped being informative in 2015.
Jackson Jackson
200% get.
Parker Peterson
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
John Morris
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Matthew Edwards
I really hope that the Magic Compendium and Hunter's Handbook are going to be available Print on Demand later.
Levi James
TIS WEAK TO FIRE!
Jaxon Campbell
...
Jeremiah Brooks
I hope they include a guide to making your own monsters
David Baker
She was a PaleoElf.
Thomas Gomez
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William Robinson
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Robert Green
Is that tiny dragon fucking someone's face? Someone with short brown hair?
Oliver Richardson
>one of the draws of the setting is the bizarre supernatural nature of the monsters >throw a fucking dragon on the cover There should be a man surrounded by Aufhockers on the front.
Eli Carter
It was? What the fuck is up with the chronology here?
Brayden Barnes
It should be a team of men with swords looking distraught, as way up and in the distance is an actual dragon made of lightning and crystal, not a wyvern or drake
Jeremiah Butler
It should be that, but then instead of the team of men with swords, it should be a really, really tiny Sarah Gizka in a "come at me bro" stance.
Jeremiah Ward
It should be some dudes caught out in an eclipse, some schwarzvald beasties around them (aufhockers are a good choice, but I'm partial to rottreiters) while a dark watcher looms overhead.
Juan Davis
>reach 24000 >reveal new stretch goal >only one new stretch goal, so after it's met there's nothing to look forward to, and if you're not particularly interested in this one, then you've got nothing already Jimmy, tell Bones (since apparently you personally have no involvement in this) to get their shit together.
Also tell them that if they have goals but just can't get the budget stuff worked out yet, at the very least you could put up "anthology of stories by Jimmy Rome (and select contractors) set in the Tattered Realms" since you can do that yourself on a shoestring budget if it comes to it, and the worst possible failure there is missing deadlines.
Camden King
And the book is "over twenty" monsters, which is a pretty low number, so if nothing else they could add a stretch goal to make it bigger.
Eli Long
Fuck, I see it too. Facehugger dragons when?
Jack Evans
They already have too much to do in a year already they don't need to be adding more stuff. That's how you get things that take 5 years to come out
James Price
Podcast of people playing Song of Swords. Give it a listen.
There's an easy solution to that. When Bones makes the post announcing it, he can include the following text:
“The majority of the stretch goals unlocked past this point will NOT be ready by the estimated delivery date of February 2018. In fact, some things may not even be started by then! We simply don't have the manpower to get more done in one year. Don't worry though, we remain committed to getting the core material (and the first set of stretch goals) done by our original deadline, and additional content will get to you as soon as possible!"
Incidentally I give Opaque Industries full legal right to use that text in its totality or any derivation thereof without any specific citation or remuneration. You can have that bit or marketing for free.
Easton Scott
>nearly three hours I mean I wanna listen but fuck
Ryder Johnson
>“The majority of the stretch goals unlocked past this point will NOT be ready by the estimated delivery date of February 2018. Oh God no, that's fucking terrible. Don't do that. Just get it all done by February as was promised.
Ethan Roberts
They didn't promise to get any of the stretch goals unlocked at over $25000 done by February, and in fact doing so, in addition to all the stuff that's already unlocked, would be pretty fucking close to impossible. I mean hell, it's going to be tough just with the stuff that's already unlocked.
Though you're right, maybe the big about how everything unlocked so far is going to be ready by the announced date as planned, to prevent people from seeing it negatively.
Brody Robinson
>Any personality stuff? >He has wavy brown hair and uh, he's tall Their goal didn't sound like a token when they were talking about the system but she does now.
Logan Bailey
>all that failing to pierce armor I feel like the DM didn't have a good grip on how armor works.
Brody Kelly
First time using the system I'd wager.
Parker Gutierrez
I spoke to the guy mere hours before they played and talked him through a few points. I'm impressed they were able to do it straight out of the book so easily given the current stage of development.
Dominic Price
Christ they're doing so much wrong. It gives me coniptions...
Nathaniel Brown
Well, they're clearly experts.
Christian Thomas
I really look forward to having one of my players gored by a FUCKING BOAR going out Baratheon style.
Charles White
As I recall, in Dzicke Pola, the Boar monster entry is almost unilaterally more dangerous than the Peasant one.
Isaiah Clark
Rulebook states that boars are also smarter than Polish peasants
Jonathan Sullivan
Boars are intelligent.
Joshua Perry
Sounds about right.
Jace Wood
But they're having fun.
Christopher Bennett
That's one of the things they are doing wrong
Nicholas Carter
I'm almost two hours in. They go "oh we were doing this wrong" several times throughout it. So presumably they'd git gud under continued play.
Mason Rivera
Vaguely Ballad-related, here's people under an AnCap flag fighting people under a soviet flag.
Does that guy have a fucking shield How long until people start bringing spears and swords to this shit?
Dylan Thompson
Probably going to go straight to guns.
Carter Myers
Surprisingly boars have a rally top notch education system. Its the standard I expect my players to conform to, are you as smart as or smarter than a boar.
Anthony Russell
>implying things won't stay within the context of factional elections We Dace soon.
Dominic Myers
I am fond of pigs.
Fucking hilarious
Justin Nelson
Stat 'em lads
Owen Bell
utilikilt/10
John Cook
whatthe fuck is he using as a weapon?
Lincoln Perez
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Joseph Reed
I think he meant the shield guy who keeps hitting people in the head, who dropped his weapon (a PVC pipe?) at one point.
Jason Fisher
I think it's wood. PVC is shit for weapons.
Joseph Wilson
>implying Berkleyites have enough high-level weapons tech to know that A lot of their weapons are just the hafts of signs or flags that got repurposed.
Sebastian Gutierrez
Stat her lads
Luis Cruz
anti-Veeky Forums out of 10, seriously bitch needs to learn how to dress.
James Nguyen
>that hamplanet on the left [entering a state of berserkergang]
Alexander Murphy
I look forward to the gun fights
Logan Cox
In the land of the Pig the Butcher is King
Adrian Smith
It looks like standard antifa gear aside from the color choices.
Who's dumber, the whale with her rag up or the aposematic with no glasses? Who's going to be fucked worse when the pepper spray comes out?
Jacob Turner
What the fuck are those shields?
James Cox
Spain now is honestly not that different. The anarchists and the fascists are the two biggest street gangs around, and the communists aren't far behind. But normal people don't get involved in that kind of fight and instead are overwhelmingly either socialist or populist and so don't need to fight since they already control the government. And you'll notice that "normal people" aren't the main demographics in these situations either, I'm pretty sure it's not going to end up as a civil war any time soon, much as I'd like to eat popcorn.
Unless you mean the construction in which case I'm pretty sure they're just plywood with some kind of grip bolted to the back. The rivets around the edge are likely aesthetic.
Ryan Cook
Jesus fucking christ they even have an emblem to go on their shit?
Sebastian Brown
Typically iconography is invented in a movement way before it gets violent.