Why is Fulgrim so triggering to people? I see this IRL and on Veeky Forums

The part where Abaddon blew up their main hub world with them on it, may or may not have had something to do with their clusterfucked state.

That said, they were already fragmenting and fighting each other before the Siege of Terra. After Fulgrim fucked off into the great unknown with two thirds of his Legion, Eidolon was left to head all the Legion's military operations in their Primarch's absence. And this involved bringing down the hammer on splinter groups who would occasionally pop up simply because the Legionnaires had nothing better to do.

>Ferrus and Fulgrim become BFFs. It ends with Fulgrim decapitating Ferrus.
>Fulgrim swears to serve the Emperor. Fulgrim betrays the Emperor.
>Fulgrim swears to lead his Legion. Half of them die because he didn't like them.
>Fulgrim swears to serve Horus. Quits the Heresy with most of his armada and no explanation, and leaves Eidolon as his stand-in.
>Fulgrim tries to make friends with Perturabo. It ends with Fulgrim trying to sacrifice Perturabo in a daemonic ritual.
>Fulgrim returns to help out with the siege of Terra. He takes his Legion and attacks civilian targets instead of helping with the siege.
>Fulgrim leaves his Legion after the Heresy and lets them do whatever while he retires to a gated community you can't find on a map.
That doesn't even cover all his shit, and the parts that are mentioned are somewhat glossed over.

The EC are perhaps the most passionately despised Traitor Legion, even by other CSM, and that's in no small part because their Primarch might just be the biggest douchebag of the bunch of douchebags known as the Primarchs. He's whiny, he's obnoxious, he's betrayed more or less everyone who ever trusted him or believed in him just a little, he creates immense problems for trivial reasons, and he's spent ten thousand years literally living the dream in his personal paradise. You can't fucking stop this guy.

But americans are heretically hedonistic.

Or they can just think all of that sound like some pretty cool stuff.

American here, can confirm. All that moralizing and whatnot pretty much died with the 1960s; since then it was just Victorian hypocrisy all the way down. Now even the pretense is fast fading, including in the South. Especially in the South.

>cartoon
Okay, disregarding the fact that apparently it's the most searched-for fetish in three states, why would you use PornHub of all things to watch hentai? It's not a case of their fetishes being outside the norm, it's that millions of people in these areas are apparently really bad at searching for porn. What the fuck?

Librarian here, people are absolute shit at searching for things in general, I have no fucking clue why.

Rape of a Banshee when?

Also Fabius abandoning the Emperor's Children yp do his own thing after the bitchslap Abaddon delivered really screwed over the chances of the EC being restored as a legion.

You guys really should read Fabius's novel. One of the best novels ever from 40K. Josh Reynolds is really an artist when it comes to warhammer.

this guy's comic are so cringeworthy and stupid no wonder they mistook him for "that" matt ward

Not soon enough, obviously.

If they didn't want to be raped, then they wouldn't be eldar women, would they?

>female martials being taken down
>being corrupted by the very things they were sent to kill
>possibly being kept to make more
>inb4 Virtposting, I'm not of the opinion that "reeeee roasties are a waste of oxygen please go" it's just that this is a literal perfect match for my piss forest

>Now even the pretense is fast fading, including in the South. Especially in the South.

While the US is inarguably becoming a lot more "accepting" and more lax when it comes to self-indulgence, there is still DEFINITELY a limit to how much is considered acceptable in popular culture, and there's also a moral cognitive dissonance when it comes to self-indulgence - it's becoming more common, but getting drug-use, alcoholism, promiscuity (especially if you're female), excess, and general debauchery as still stigmatized and viewed as a moral failing to most American cultures. It's gone from being a Sin to being a sin, but it's a sin nonetheless, and one a person should ideally be without. In addition, moderation (not denial, but moderation) is viewed as a hallmark of being a man in many American cultures, especially Appalachia, the West, and the Deep South, because self-control (an extension of the independence so lauded in these cultures) is still the hallmark of "being a man."

It also ties heavily into the "redemptive" culture that is extremely common in American Christian doctrines, where you are "born again" when you repent of your sins and can always come home if you stray. As such, "Sunday Saint, Saturday Sinner" types are super common in religious places, creating a "taboo" aspect that makes many people willing to dip into it, while simultaneously making them far more willing to resist completely giving in to it.

Slaanesh isn't self-indulgence, it's self-indulgence for its own sake, and being a slave to it. THAT is something that is reviled in most American cultures, because in doing that you completely lose your self-control and become less of a man.

Reminder that this happened. There are probably a bunch of top-knotted little half-Eldar bastards playing around on Planet Killer's command bridge.

>There are probably a bunch of top-knotted little half-Eldar bastards playing around on Planet Killer's command bridge.

Nah, Eldar are far more valuable for their component parts, as their blood, bones, and flesh are psychically saturated and therefore make great ritual components.

Also, Eldar and Humans can no longer interbreed, as they are radically different species internally. That said, it's hinted at that hybrids are possible, but not through "conventional" means - they'd have to be test-tube babies, and even then there's a really, really high chance something will go horribly wrong in the process and at best you get a stillbirth.

Fulgrim finally got off his ass and started doing shit. Its rumored 2 traitor primarch alongside magnus will be featured in Rise of the Primarch, with Mortarion and Fulgrim vein the most likely

You mean the short story about Fabius? Haven't read it. Care to elaborate on it?

Short story : blacklibrary.com/all-products/prodigal-ebook.html

the novel : blacklibrary.com/all-products/fabius-bile-primogenitor-ebook.html

Book story and novel are written by Josh. I recommand reading them . They are too good to spoil. Try checking the general thead for downloads.

Slaanesh is my favourite chaos god, too. Although it is for him being the god of art, perfection, beauty and passion rather than him being the god of self-indulgence.

Has anyone in this thread ever noticed that that the gap between Wisconsin and Michigan looks like a really fucked up bad dragon tier dildo?

>all this babbling about American "cultures".

Have you even been to the United States? I'm American, lived here all my life across various states in many cities, and I have never seen anything related to what you're talking about. This place is decadence incarnate.

Druggies line the streets everywhere yelling at pass bys for crack money. Men are total pansy fags. Women are sluts that rotate new boyfriends every few months. Homelessness is running rampant as the rich get richer. Everyone is on some type of unnecessary drug dependence, even professional business types. Don't even get me started on the depravity of what I've seen on basic cable.

I think what you keep confusing for resistance to self-indulgence is actually a certain type of ego Americans have. People here are extremely narcissistic and laud themselves as morally just and upright in front of others. This isn't resistance to self-indulgence, it is just another form of it.

America is all about self-indulgence for its own sake, nothing more.

It's a bit weird to think about, but finding, acquiring, and curating tastes in porn is a skill, though a pretty useless one. People who throw phrases like "cartoon tits" or "minecraft porn" into Google or Pornhub are likely either very young or are very bad a porn due either not really needing skills or just being naturally terrible.

Think of it this way. The common number of hours for practice to achieve mastery at something is 10,000. Assuming 5 minutes of porn per day at 365 days, you'll hit mastery at close to 6 years, which is a solid number of years or any user worth his salt. Many anons definitely get their jerk on for more than 5 minutes and have been doing such for more than 6 years, so we have people here who are easily double to quadruple masters in porn and are mostly likely specialized by fetish or medium.

That just makes him sound kinda based, quite frankly.

Youve never been to LA, frisco, new york. Naked gay parades with men in cock rings with full erection in the afternoon says it all.

>all this babbling about American "cultures".

If you're actually American, and you haven't notice the significant differences in American culture in different parts of the country, you're ignorant as all fuck. A Texan has more in common politically, socially, and culturally with a Mexican than he does with a Yankee (and a Chihuahuan has more in common with a Texan than he does with Mexico City, ironically enough), and a man from Oregon with more in common with a man from Vermont than he does with a man from Idaho despite being nearly adjacent to each other (because of the Puritanical missions that sought to colonize the West Coast from New England while passing over everything in between). These are even backed up by assertions of European immigrants themselves in the late 1800's/early 1900's, who claimed the differences between Appalachia, the South, the Northeast, and the Midlands were as stark as (and possibly even more stark than) the differences back in Europe, on account of previously suppressed cultures being able to flourish in the US alongside more mainstream European cultures. Sure, the US has homogenized much more today than it was in the past, but there are still fundamentally major differences that divide American politics and culture even today that have roots going back centuries to its settlement and the ever-present culture war between fanatical Yankees and Deep Southern Barbados-style caste society.

>I think what you keep confusing for resistance to self-indulgence is actually a certain type of ego Americans have. People here are extremely narcissistic and laud themselves as morally just and upright in front of others.

This is a pretty ironic assertion given the paragraph you gave before it, especially since while many of those things are common, they're still greatly looked down upon in many places.

Just because America is different in YOUR part of America doesn't mean it's the same way all across the continent-sprawling nation.

In case you didn't notice, I said "cultures," plural.

The US has extremely different local cultures throughout its geography, almost all of which are extremely dependent on the ethnic groups that settled it first, and vary from one another HUGELY, even today. What is "normal" in one part of the country is seen as abnormal, possibly even reviling, to other parts of it. The modern shit-show that is US politics is another wave of this divide manifesting itself, except this time it's all across the big screen rather than the Senate floor or the paper headlines.

>implying anybody gives a fuck what the West Coast does

America made the KFC double down. Your argument is invalid.

npr.org/2013/11/11/244527860/forget-the-50-states-u-s-is-really-11-nations-says-author

I'm not well traveled so I'm not sure if these exact 11 divisions are fully accurate or not, but I also am into the idea that America is basically a collective of smaller countries that happens to share some connective tissue via the government.

>America made the KFC double down
And Jesus wept with pride.

It was actually marketing execs who did this, and I'm going to reach quite a bit here and say it's another case of Northern corporate interests using culture-control mechanisms such as media to influence the norms of rival groups, like poor whites and minorities (who are obviously the target of this particular product) in order to maximize profit.

Kinda like B.E.T. is

I've actually read that book, which (aside from his piss-poor analysis of the Texas Revolution, as like all non-Texans he fundamentally does not understand the war, and he doesn't provide the context of the political and social climate of Mexico City at the time of the war, especially with regards to heresy and slavery) is pretty good. It's a little sweeping at times, but it overall does a pretty fair job at analyzing the US and its regional cultures.

Before I read the book I had done a lot of other research in how the US was settled and its cultural differences because I have a hard-on for history of all sorts, as well as noticed similar things in my travels across the US, and this book does a pretty solid job of summing it up.

7/10, recommend the book, but it isn't the Bible, especially if you want to do anything with Texas.

But what about the pursuit of capital? Having enough money to live is hardly slaneshii, nor is the dream of climbing up from your bootstraps and getting a small piece of suburbia with a mown front lawn and a white picket fence.

But when you continue amassing money for it's own sake, long past the time you have enough to live comfortably - or you destroy your life in pursuit of that suburban house - or you have some complex rules about how to maintain that lawn; all these things are slaneeshi.

What's so special about Texas?

>where you are "born again" when you repent of your sins and can always come home if you stray. As such, "Sunday Saint, Saturday Sinner" types are super common in religious places, creating a "taboo" aspect that makes many people willing to dip into it, while simultaneously making them far more willing to resist completely giving in to it

That's kind of what I mean by hypocrisy. People just using their religion and supposed piousness as a cover for the decadence and rage lurking underneath.

It's depressing. Sometimes I wish the earth would get hit by an asteroid.

To put it somewhat briefly, because Texas History is actually a very complicated and intricate thing:

Texas was a Mexican frontier state that an extremely xenophobic and elitist Mexico City paid Appalachians, Virginians, and Southerners to settle because they feared an unsettled Frontier and could not stop Comanche, Lipan Apache, and Karankawa raids on the San Antonio Road, on account of the fact that the prevailing culture of the populous regions of Mexico were extremely unsuited to colonizing a hostile frontier (Santa Anna would frequently lament that he literally could not pay Mexicans to live on the frontier).

The problem for Mexico City (and I say Mexico City instead of Mexico because Mexico was much like the US at the time, in that it was an extremely nebulous and fractured arrangement of states that often were mutually opposed to one another, and their internal cultures rarely lined up with what the government wanted) was that they didn't like anybody who wasn't a good Catholic, didn't like local governance (this was the time period with the rise of the Hacienda system under an aristocratic assembly in Mexico City, which was basically Feudalism 2.0, clashing with Republicanism greatly influenced by American and European Enlightenment ideology in a uniquely Mexican system) and they didn't like anybody from the degenerate Celtic or Anglo-Saxon races, and especially did not like slavery OR the people Americans took as slaves (black people, even mestizos, were barely above the Indian in Mexican society, which made US society look progressive in comparison when it came to the treatment of non-slaves).

Cont.

As a non-American, God bless America.

So, due to the mounting strength of Comanche and Apache raids, the continued survival of the cannibal Karankawa, and the folly of having an unsettled frontier, Mexico City made a compromise with Moses Austin (and eventually his son, Stephen F. Austin) to settle the frontier. Mexico City agreed to sell land to approved American settlers and have their land and title legally recognized by the Republic of Mexico, on the conditions that they:
>Become Mexican citizens (most of whom did, for reasons I will get into later)
>Abide by Mexican law and pay Mexican taxes (with the exception of slavery, again they largely did)
>Did not interfere with the works of the Catholic Church (this is where problems really arose, because the criteria for this request was never actually defined).
>Built and maintained a serviceable frontier with roads, infrastructure, clean water for horses, and fortified townships that could bunk Mexican soldiers (This was a necessity of life on the Frontier, so it was done regardless).

Land in Texas was sold in droves to approved settlers, and settlers began to pour in. In the beginning, the overwhelming majority were approved by Mexico, and followed the rules. Stephen F. Austin himself became a Citizen of Mexico, and would refer to himself as a Mexican both privately and publicly up until the Alamo, and developed a close personal friendship with El Presidente-Generalissimo Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, with whom he negotiated the terms of colonization. Furthermore, the Texans were people who had largely sworn off any and all ties to the United States, due to either fleeing creditors, the law, poverty, or oppression, and as such did not have any reason to rebel or secede along ethnic identities as Mexico City feared. They were skilled frontiersmen who not only were good at living frontier life, but ENJOYED it (to the amazement of Mexican officials), and essentially turned water into wine when it comes to settlement.

Cont.

>The Left Coast

So are Rhode Island and Hawaii the only one capable of non-degenerate thought?

Please continue, I'm interested.

The problem for Mexico City, however, was that it worked too well. Settlers began pouring in to Texas from Appalachia and the South illegally, carving out settlements wherever they pleased by fire and force of arms, and eventually began to completely outnumber the Mexicans who lived there. Furthermore, there were many cultural issues - they were openly Protestant, and they demanded local representation in the Mexican system. A major and very vocal grievance of the Texans was that they were promised representation in the Senate, but they did not receive it because they lacked a local capital (their capital was in Cohuila, over 500 miles away through hostile Indian country). Even when they managed to have their voice heard, they were completely ignored by Mexican politicians, who viewed them as hardworking yet uncultured, heretical savages that stood a world apart from the refinement of Mexican Exceptionalism. Most crucially, they clashed frequently with Catholic officials, on account of "not interfering with the Catholic Church" meaning whatever that particular Church official felt at that time, and these clashes were either ignored by Catholic Mexicans or were backed up by Catholic militias and Mexican troops on the side of the Church. As the freedom to practice their faith so long as they did not interfere was a promised guarantee of Mexico City, a great many Texans were extremely and sometimes violently upset at the blatant discrimination by Catholic agents, culminating in church seizures by Mexican agents and even public punishment for heresy against the Church.

Cont. for attitudes about Indians and Slavery

The attitudes towards Indians was a fundamentally different and incompatible approach between Texans and Mexico City. The Mexican attitude was that they were the inheritors of the Vaticans decree that Spain bring the light of Christ to the New World, and as such viewed Indian societies as being a near-heresy and an uncivilized Indian as a savage heathen. Their societies were to be broken up at the point of a rifle, and their children brought to Catholic Missions so that their souls might be saved and their cultures eradicated and replaced with Mexican ideals. As such, this attitude was extremely unpopular with the Indians, and most Southwestern Indian societies would harbor a special hate of Mexicans for the rest of their existence (Geronimo himself once bragged that his Apache would only kill Mexicans with rocks, because compared to "white soldiers" they worn't worth the expense of a bullet).

Texan attitudes, however, bore much resemblance to those of their Appalachian roots. While violence was commonly used when they believed it most effective, they also had no desire to "civilize" the Indian - they did not care what he did so long as the Texan could do what he wanted. As such, they were more than willing to trade with Indians and even fight in their wars as mercenaries (most people don't know that a great many Indian nations would hire white mercenaries to fight in their wars, even against the US in some cases), and would frequently intermarry and interact with their societies in a peaceful way. However, they were still creatures of opportunity, and would not hesitate to annihilate a society if they believed they would benefit from doing so. This attitude made them exceptionally effective at negotiating with the Comanche although the words "negotiation" and "Comanche" in the same sentence is a joke in an of itself and completely flew in the face of Catholic missives.

Cont.

Slavery is a point that a great many Mexican and Yankee historians like to harp on, but in reality was an extremely minor issue in the eventual Revolution.

The overwhelming majority of Texans, while not opposed to slavery, were not themselves slave-owners simply due to the fact that they were too poor to be one. Those few individuals who did bring slaves to Texas only did so in small numbers (as at this point slavery wasn't lucrative, for cotton hadn't been cultivated in Texas and wouldn't be until after annexation) and they were largely "house-slaves." Most Mexican local officials really did not care one way or another about these slaves, because A. They were not in large enough numbers to threaten anything, and B. Every warm body that could hold a rifle or work with their hands was a blessing on the frontier, but Mexico City was naturally horrified. They weren't really horrified at the use of slaves, really - they had and would continue to make serious money trading Indian slaves in El Norte and not say a word about it - but rather the fact that they were bringing in inferior black people, who could not be civilized and could not be brought to the Catholic Faith in their eyes. While they would use the use of slaves as a justification for the extermination of Anglos in Texas later, at the time it was far, far more a political excuse than anything else, no different from Southerners today claiming the Civil War was about States Rights and not Slavery It was both, but that's another tirade and is historic revisionism at best and Mexican apologism at worst.

Eventually, Mexico City began to lose control on its colonies and states. Religious and political dissent began to boil over in over a dozen Mexican states, including Cohuila y Tejas, reaching a head when Santa Anna went full Palpatine and dissolved the Senate, tore up the Constitution of 1824, and raised an army of totally-not-slaves.

Cont.

I don't think I've even seen a thread get so far off OP's original topic

He marched his army of convict-conscripts to put down revolts in mulitple Mexican states, all while lombasting to the Mexican people that the heretic Anglos and their corrupt ways had begun to unravel the fabric of Mexican society, and that peace and prosperity would be restored once they pushed every Anglo past the Sabine at gunpoint and that they would even "chastise" the United States (to which Andrew Jackson, when he heard about it, said, "u fukkin wot m8"). He threw his longtime friend Stephen F. Austin in a Spanish Inquisitorial prison and had him tortured for weeks (going so far as to remove his fingernails), encouraged Mexicans to seize any and all Anglo property in Mexico by force, and eventually leads this army across the the Rio Grande to conquer Texas again.

Texas, naturally, begins to freak the fuck out. Most are in favor of rebellion, though few can agree on whether they're rebelling for Independence or restoration of the Constitution of 1824, while many sought a solution with Mexico City. Even General Urrea, the "official" commander of the force that marched into Texas, nearly defected to the Texan cause with at least 500 Mexican regulars, on account "he and his men being true Republicans," but his personal friendship with Santa Anna won his loyalty to his superior (After Fannins Massacre, he would come to question his choice of loyalty, for he viewed the conduct of the Mexican Army during the revolution as dishonorable and unjust when under Santa Anna). After a bunch of Mexican defectors, Tennesseans, and Texans got black-out drunk and woke up to a Mexican army outside the walls of the Alamo, the Alamo was conquered at great cost of life, and then all of the prisoners who fled the Alamo got lined up across an open ditch and bayonetted to death no matter their age, the revolution went from one of insurrection to rebellion, and Independence became the goal. ]

Cont.

First week on Veeky Forums?

Bitch this started off about Fulgrim and now we're talking about the Texas revolution

Because he's an anime villain

After the Texan army led a stunning and completely unwarranted victory against a numerically superior Mexican army at San Jacinto because the Napoleon of the West was too busy putting his dick in a slave girl, Texas emerged as its own cultural identity. It was forged under a political struggle against tyranny across all class and social lines, and a readiness to fight for that independence became a hallmark of the Texan identity. They had emerged through a campaign of almost outright genocide not only victorious, but also as a new society, and that identity of self-determination through violence and singularity would color the culture pretty much to the present day.

While Texas would become a major slave power, it was not a true member of Dixie during the Civil War, on account of being an culturally Appalachian frontier state in an alliance of culturally landlocked Southerners. A major reason for their secession was also their belief that the Federal Government was far too light on Mexico for the Mexican-American War (a great many Texans at the time had grown up watching Mexicans burn their homes to the ground and kill their families indiscriminately through quasi-sanctioned paramilitary raids) and the complete resistance to any "foreign" power (Yankees) telling them what to do.

The natural wealth of Texas and its extreme ecological diversity meant that Texas was and has always been very wealthy, and the wide-open spaces and plethora of land meant that people could be whoever they wanted to be in Texas if they were willing to conquer the landscape. Poor Scots-Irish Appalachians were able to live out of the caste-bound Southerners that dominated Austin, and yet even still they felt a connection with one another that few other states had because of their marital history and the violent conquest of the landscape through sheer willpower and the incredible rewards it has reaped for them.

Cont.

Furthermore, while Texas was a violently individualistic Scots-Irish cultural values ruled from afar by Southern aristocratic principles in Austin and Houston, major enclaves of Germans, Czechs, and Poles dotted the landscape of Texas, creating their own enclaves of European Texas that still exist today (fuck yeah kolaches) that were still a part of the Texas culture. Even though these widely disparate groups were often at each others throats, unlike the rest of the US the Texans had that history of shared struggle and the natural wealth to come together whenever anybody else dared try to threaten other Texans.

As a last bit on the cultural foundation of Texas, remember that while it was ruled by Southern artistocrats, the cultural foundation of Texas was made by the warrior-societies of Appalachian hoodlums, and these violent, hyper-individualistic men not only achieved positions of great power and presitge in Texas, but also became insanely rich because of it. As such, they became walking avatars of "Fuck you I do what I want," New Money types, and that egotism is STILL part of Texas culture because it was earned the hard way back in the day.

TL;DR Texas is the way it is because it was a bunch of Appalachians, Deep Southerners, and Mexicans resisting a legitimately oppressive and tyrannical regime, winning against all odds, inheriting a super-wealthy region that everybody could be themselves on, and having the capability to carve their own fortunes out of it no matter what any other group threw at them because of their own skill, and its history of constant conflict with a foreign power of a significantly different cultural mindset and emerging victorious of its own accord means Texas has actually had to work for its very existence, and it deserves to exist because it fought to exist in the first place.

This innocence should be treasured.

holy shit kys and go back to /b/

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Seems to be working well for you.

That's pretty interesting to know. Does put the
>"Fug yeah, don' mess wif Texas, YEE-HAW!!" *claps*
into a bit of perspective culturally - people might not know the history, but that's not the point.

>Ynnead
>Do anything other than suck Marine cock
Sure...

Why didn't he just toss the sword away?

>/u/
>degenerate

It is the purist love user

thanks for the informative post

He was cool until he decided to be a faggot traitor. Even he regrets it.

He was an obnoxious faggot before he turned traitor, and he only got better after his turn. And he stopped regretting it.

>muh fulsom is pride
You've never been either.

He's triggering due to both his accomplishments and his failures

he has the highest kill count when it comes to challenging opponents, like punching an Avatar of Khaine to slag, decapitating Ferrus, and putting Guilliman in a space-age ICU

for supposedly being the most charismatic and friendly of the primarchs he's done the most dickish actions like ratting out Curze, turning on Ferrus and Perturabo at the worst times, and killing nonessential targets at the Siege of Terra

He has such a vaunted track record and his road to perfection is exemplary, but so many people just can't get over the stunts he's pulled over the years! So we're left with 2 choices, either act like his legion and venerate him as the star of badboy perfection, or utterly despise him for the the terror he's wrought.

either way, this guy is quite the badass

dead primarchs and dead gods

yeah good luck

>ratting out Curze
What?

Konrad told Fulgrim about the visions. Very confidential, heart-to-heart stuff. Fulgrim immediately told Dorn.

Huh, forgot about that. What a little shit.

Nah, that shit would've ended up like Angel Corps. At best.

Funny thing is that Konrad still seems to have had a less edgy than usual spot for Fulgrim. I suppose he never had very high expectations to begin with.

it's glossed over but Curze and his legion followed the Emperor's children around in the early days when they were first introduced into the crusade, like a lot of the other primarchs had to after being discovered

now during a joint action between Imperial Fists, Emperor's Children, and Night Lords Curze was having one of his psychic fits about the end of the imperium and talked to Fulgrim about it.

Fulgrim, having no real experience with psykers in his legion (not the biggest fan) he went and talked to Dorn about it since he seemed to always have a few around

whether he put it in the right light or not he told Dorn that basically "hey our creepy not-too-stable brother has been having visions of everything we ever built in fire fire and death without telling anyone for like, years,what do we do? you can find him by the skinning pits over there, try not to kick in that psyker ptsd though" and this led to a fight between Dorn and Curze that ended with a bleeding Dorn and Curze going rogue and blowing up Nostramo

its not written whether or not this was planned or intentional but Curze did tell Fulgrim in confidence so for him to go tell someone else right after was kind of a dick move

>Angel Corps
I don't know what that is.

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His portrayal in Fulgrim is cringeworthy. Whereas the other Primarchs and their legions are dedicated to a particular facet of war, Fulgrim and his legion are just striving for general, poorly defined excellence. The overuse of the words "perfect", "perfecting" and "perfection" just goes to show how shallow the motivations for Fulgrim are. The novel was the chance to explain his perspectives and what his ideal was. Instead, he comes off as whiney, entitled and vapid

Unless the intent was to make me hate that character, in which case, bravo.

Russ killed 2 and BTFO Fagnus so hard he doesn't even have a body anymore

>the furfags genuinely think this

>he comes off as whiney, entitled and vapid
I don't think those are bad character traits, but I'll agree that the novel and his portrayal in it are pretty crap even by the standards of the HH series. His character arc was plain bad.

Your math is way of man, 5 minutes a day every day would take you 76 years to master.

But given how much some people here watch porn I guess it's possible someone have mastered it.

It's lore dude

>literal fanfiction
>200% canon lore, I swear!

It's canon that Russ was the executioner. He was sent to kill Magnus, is all but stated to have killed the 2 unknown Primarchs and in the potential visions shown to Lorgar killed him and his legion if the Emperor would have found out what he was up to. Malcador and the Emperor even call him the executioner so it wasn't some self styled title either, don't know why you are getting so upset

you forgot the part where Curze mauls Dorn while naked and crying

>TFW singlehandedly drive my state's top search to be MILF.

>Fulgrim and his legion are just striving for general, poorly defined excellence.
I think FW defined their specialty as "combined warfare doctrine". Which isn't wrong, but it's not very standout either.

They set themselves apart better after they turn Slaaneshi. Then they've got more focus on body modification and unconventional weaponry. But really, the whole perfectionist angle was a weak concept that never got very well developed in Fulgrim.

>Texas and Chihuahua has more in common with each other than with the civilized states of either country.
No shit sherlock, borders are where the worst people go to live.

I wish he would get promoted like this instead of the usual sexual persona. Shit get stale.

My favorite idea was some guy on Veeky Forums that presented his Slaneeshi guard regiment. They were basically obsessed with military parade to a point of constantly seeking perfection in formation, presentation and so on by sheer pleasure. It was so bad that they eventually got corrupted by Slaneesh unbeknownst to them.

I'm surely telling this all wrong so my apologies to that guy if he ever read this.

>civilized states
>southern Mexico
>Yankees
>civilized

Surely you jest.

Also, plenty of people live on the border because trade rules all, and borders are hotbeds of trade in todays world. You can make a shitload of money if you know how to properly exploit trade routes and the industry/carrier groups that use them.

thanks buddy very informative and well written

Thanks for the effortposting, user. I'm not even remotely familiar with Texas but this seems to be an interesting perspective. It's nice to see someone with a passion for history outside of the cesspool which is Veeky Forums

t. historian

I want to make a salamanders successor that turned to Slaanesh because they became obsessed with the sensation of burning alive and hearing the screams of the people they visited these pleasures on.

Y/N?

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It actually could work in a perverse manner, similar to the Boltons flaying people in ASOFAI. If there's an explanation for why they started - eg. to drive terror into the hearts of their enemies, to make an example of heretics, and because fire is fucking neat - then that's something that could easily become Slaaneshi.

Have you ever just stared into a bonfire for awhile? That in and of itself can be a bit Slaaneshi tbqh. Doubly so if it's a bonfire made of heretics.

That Aquila is missing its other head. Sloppy work.