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Let us swear an oath of moment on Caliban to cease this foolishness.
Mason Cook
are Raptora Breachers actually worth their price now?
Camden Hill
Is there any other Luna Wolves color / insignia image than book 1 mk2 version and book 7 mk4 version page?
Adam Fisher
t. salty Night Lord
Jaxson Powell
Sure why not. Could see them being super nasty in ZM with the extra plus one invul. Plus a kit bash with TK shields would look pretty boss.
Robert Long
Why the shitty thread picture?
Camden Robinson
3 destroyers down, 7 to go.
Ethan Ward
These look great, but aren't you going to paint the scroll on the power fist?
Cooper Myers
Yes
Jacob Bell
Looks cool, can destroyers take melta bombs tho?
David Sanchez
Nah a real scroll would have burnt off either from the toxic gear they're using, or from activating the power fist.
Easton Rivera
They're counts as Phosphex. I was gonna paint tiny radiation symbols on them but my free hand isn't good enough.
Brayden Russell
These are beautiful. Destroyers are my favourite thing about 30k and you do them such justice and more.
Kevin Gonzalez
It's time to paint. What are your hobby goals for this week /hhg/?
Xavier Mitchell
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Tyler Morgan
Am I the only one who likes pre-Primarch 1kSons colours? They're very heraldic. Very knightly.
Ayden Lee
I used GK psyk-out grenades with the skulls on them.
Isaiah Peterson
This week I'm planning finishing building a Triaros and 10 Secutarii peltasts. If I get time then I want to undercoat them and start painting my mechanicum force. Going for a metallic green look (leadbelcher sprayed over the model then thin tamiya clear green coats on relevant armour plates).
Isaac Wright
>when your post-human veteran of a thousand wars finds out he's actually a model in a miniature wargame
Cooper Rogers
Talladega knightly?
Gabriel Nguyen
>When the warp kicks in
Zachary Price
I hate you, but only because of how good that was. Fuck you. You're awesome.
Ryder Jackson
Draft a 2000pt Tsons list, and rummage through my cabinets for spare hulls and get some balsawood
Lincoln Myers
Still trying to decide what legion to start. It's going to come down to doing a couple of test models and seeing which I prefer/which I can better do justice, but I'd want to build them in different marks: if I do Iron Hands I'd want to do them in Mk III; if I do Blood Angels I'd want to do them in Mk IV. So I can't just grab a single box to do test models, and buying two boxes will leave some left over, so trying to work out the cheapest way to do this, and generally being a procrastinating little shit as a result.
Ethan Ross
The simple answer is Mechanicum
Isaiah Kelly
You monster.
That was actually the third option, but given I'd be in it for the tanks (krios, triaros and macrocarids, not reductor artillery) not the robots, I'd probably be missing the point.
Alexander Allen
Paint a 15 man TS tactical squad.
Ayden Hernandez
Now that Inferno is out, and all the late edition 40K furfaggotry is missing from the Sixth Legion, how many people expect bandwagon fans to jump on the Vlka Fenryka?
Henry Jones
Ordo Reductor spams tanks and artillery and pretty much nothing else
Also that's Monstrous Creature to you
Adrian Long
>the Vlka Fenryka
Fuck off with that shit. Nothing worse than being to embarrassed to call a Legion/Chapter by it's proper name.
Jace Perry
Finish my fucking AL seekers. I've had B@C for over 12 months now, and still havent painted everyting. fuck me i have only finished my fuckign termintors, takes me so long
how do you motivate yourself to paint /hhg/?
Owen Anderson
I can't wait for all the Current Edition furfags to jump to 30k. Deathsworn wulfens, plain wolf guard terminators, grey hunters as grey slayers, thunderwolf jet bikes, etc.
Ryder Jones
Most of my Wolves are 1991 beakies in actual gray paint jobs, so I look more like a Scouring era force, or a late Heresy refit. I have bought a total of two miniatures since 2002.
Joshua Collins
I've painted up 2 bac boxes, and started my mechanicum in that time user, gitgud.
Nolan Flores
HOW!? even when i do paint, i am so slow, ahhhhhhhhhhh
Wyatt Martinez
>thunderwolf jet bikes AKA Leaping Wolves
Josiah Robinson
>tfw no helmet
Adrian White
Looking to start building a Dangel Army capitalising on their Close Combat rules, mostly by equipping them with as many swords as possible and using special ammo to debuff WS5 enemies. I'm aware this isn't the best tactic, but man I love me some medieval knights.
Question is: what do you guys reckon would be the best cc unit to drop my Praetor in?
Camden Nguyen
Force yourself into a painting routine and stick with it, don't stop until everything is done. Become familiar how much you can paint in a specific time (a day, a week etc.) and structure your painting schedule.
Caleb Brown
Nope, you can do just fine without Reductor arty in a mechanized list, even if it is nice to have about. Use the Reductor variant anyway, buffs still excellent, take an Archimandrite, Secutarii Axiarch and a Magos Reductor. Use the Titan Guard as your line troops after 2 comp Thallax, units of 20 Peltasts in Triaros or 12 Hoplites in an Arvus. Then add some Myrmidon Destructors in a Macrocarid, which can be Decima's DT if loyalist, and a battery or two of Krios Venators, plus maybe some Vulturax or Lightnings, then add whatever. Bingo, list that can do most things, even if it might struggle slightly against Custodes due to lack of S10. Avoid vanilla Krioae and the Karacnaros as a rule, all other Mechanicum vehicles are shiny as hell.
People always obsess over killing high T monstrous creatures when dealing with Mechanicum, too, so you'll have some of the element of surprise for a while.
Dylan Clark
Not the best choice by any means but I am making a 10 man weapon master veteran squad to accompany my praetor in games. Add other consuls and apothecaries to flavour.
Bentley Smith
Fuck, you are right user, i will do this! i will make a schedual for myself . Cheers man
Juan Gray
Someone mentioned Flesh Tearers finding a Lunawolf in stasis in 40k. What happened to the poor guy? Deathwatch or execution?
Jaxon James
All with axes should add, plus some stasis grenades, 40 WS5 S5 AP2 attacks on the charge, 30 for every round after that. The stasis grenades debuff anything that might be a problem for their WS5.
Nolan James
I think he was brought up to date with everything that had happened to the galaxy then he got mad and stole a space ship and flew away. It was only a throwaway bit of fluff from the Black Legion supplement.
Owen Russell
Nice, could drop combi nade-launchers with stasis shells to ensure that WS drop as well. Might steal this idea.
Carter Ward
Reeeeee. Deserter!
Nathaniel Lewis
Is there a difference between buying the Dark Vengeance starter set and buying something like the Dark Angel Gauntlet Tactical Squad? I'm trying to get starting playing DA and I'm not sure how to format my army, looking around 1000 points since that's what my LGS plays. I'm holding off on the codices since I don't want to get hamstringed by 8th edition. What are some "safe" buys until then?
Carter Gray
Does a TS Assault Squad sound like a good idea?
>20 Assault Marines >+1 HoW from jump pack >+1 HoW from Arcana power >40 HoW attacks on the charge
Henry Carter
He probably saw the state of the Imperium for himself and then joined a local Deathwatch chapter as a Blackshield.
Gavin Perry
This is 30k, if you are meant to be here the BaC or BoP sets will serve you better. If not then find the 40k general in the archives.
Hunter Peterson
Wrong thread chum, I'd hop it before someone gets mad.
Aiden Lopez
to get all those HoWs, you'll need that every model is in bse contact with the enemy at Initiative 10. 20 models will hardly manage to do that, unless you spread them well (which might make you pass on terrain and lose 2" to charge speed.
Isaac Ross
I know Mk3 jump packs aren't fluffy but damn it's cool
Luis Jenkins
Good point. Then maybe I should just run 1 squad of 10? 20 HoW attacks for half the cost! Or is it too gimmicky and situational?
Gavin Evans
One issue I can see is you need to get into base-to-base contact to make a HOW hit, which may be tricky with 20. There's probably a magic number that means you're not wasting points on extraneous models, but have enough dudes to absorb casualties/get plenty of HOW hits, but damned if I know what it is.
Isaiah Powell
Are Iron Warriors a viable chapter to play? I really like their aesthetic but I havent seen many lists.
Easton Long
It's interesting, but maybe giving them combat shields and Raptora would be better?
Ethan Phillips
>not using dark vengace in your games pff i bet you dont even use death watch models for raven guard
Connor Perry
Only if other players in your meta make you bitter
Anthony Miller
Ride the iron fire brother
Blake Hall
>but I havent seen many lists. Is this your first thread? IW are one of the most popular legions.
Michael Moore
Seeing that production MkVIs and their machinery were rescued from Mars during the Schism, SW were on Terra during the Heresy and there's art of MkVI SW on Prospero,
There's really no evidence that some legions didn't use certain marks and any claims that they didn't are usually backed up with "because I don't like it, get out of muh 30kay, reeeee!"
Thomas Young
To my shame its true, however I've been thinking of proxying Wulfen as some kind of early Black Dragons prototype...
Justin Butler
please dont, i was jokeing around. wulfun are the worst space marine models around, pleaase plase please dont
Jayden Clark
Lol relax user, I was being mean about the guy that got shouted out of HHG and WIP a few weeks back for his "heresey era BD prototypes".
Xavier Moore
Yeah it is my first thread. I used to play warmachine but my LGS went balls deep in warhammer so I'd like to make the switch. I guess my problem was not knowing the difference between 30k and 40k. I saw 40k CSMs painted as IW and assumed it was the same thing and the 30k name was appended because of Forge World...
Xavier White
oh jesus why
Kayden Foster
Except Vlka Fenryka is the proper name.
Landon Jackson
Nah, it's the stupid Abnett Name created in Prospero Burns. Meanwhile Space Wolves goes all the way back to Rogue Trader.
Chase Russell
I bet you call the Legionnes Astartes "Space Marines".
Chase Jenkins
>+3 points for combat shields
Wow. I didn't notice that. I don't know though. I'll stew on it some more, but the combat shield+raptora combo would give the unit survivability past the deep strike turn.
Robert Kelly
I bet you call the Astartes Ultra "the ultramarines"
Jaxson Morgan
What is the hatred of Space *noun*?
It's not "Space Wolves", it's "Vlka Fenryka." It's not "Space Sharks" it's "Carcharodons." It's not "Space Marines" it's "Legiones/Adeptus Astartes."
Asher Watson
>it's the Stupid Annette Name
Prospero burns was the last breath of good SW fluff for a decade until inferno
Isaiah Carter
Sounds like something children would call their little toys before bashing them together in a game of makebelieve over a table counter using imaginary daydreams written in a digital scrapbook.
Charles Anderson
>What is the hatred of Space *noun*?
Immature people thinking they're mature by rejecting perceived immaturity for something they perceive to be more mature.
Jordan Sanders
It's called High Gothic, pleb.
Jose Cook
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Camden Young
Too busy to slog through anything. Maybe finally finish my Imperial Fists Praetor I've earmarked the 2015 Centurion as.
Ayden Nguyen
So, why aren't all legions, chapters, regiments, etc. named as such?
Grayson Cox
I bet you call the Praetoria Mortalis "the Death Guard".
Andrew Collins
And people actually trying to say "Vlka Fenryka" sound far more stupid than those saying "Space Wolves."
Thomas White
QUICK LET'S NAME ALL THE LEGIONS IN HIGH GOTHIC.
Joshua Hill
This is correct.
Liam Gray
test both and them share results with us! Don't forget to add a chaplain there
Gabriel Morris
I pronounce it "Vul-ka"..
Grayson Davis
Filii Mille
Grayson Long
It's not "Vlka Fenryka" it's "Spatium Rapaces."
Austin Sanchez
I say 'Vyl-ka'...
Nolan Cox
Iron Hands: "Ferrus Manus".
WAIT A MINUTE
Nathan Bailey
Wait, got a better one: Milia Filiorum
Nathaniel Martin
I've been using a unit of assault marines with combat shields as ALfag, and they've done nicely so far.
I did it in the name of My Dudes, not quite expecting the amount of autism I'd get here.
No one I play with cares, at least. Though I'm limiting myself to one wulfen-leg squad (at least in part cause they're a pain in the dick to convert). Might get Gal Vorbak and cover up the WB icons if I feel the need for more heresy.