Listen up, nerds. This isn't the modern thread anymore, this is the Death's Shadow Jund Thread. If you're not playing Death's shadow Jund, kill yourself please. I wouldn't ask what you're playing, cause it better be DSJ I wouldn't ask what you're hating, cause I know it's any deck not DSJ. I won't ask what you're brewing, cause if you think your little special snoflake retard ass is coming up with something to beat DSJ I have news for you. It's not. Sideboard? We don't even need a sideboard, cause we win every match 2-0 before turn 3
How's it feel playing the biggest FotM deck in existence?
Liam Roberts
>You >Not retarded Pick one
Jose Bailey
Thanks for the (you) and next time make a good general.
>Playing Nothing >Brewing BG Infect >Hating Nothing. Everything is pretty fair and I have deep respect for DSJ because it's a good deck. I just have to be a special snowflake though. >Unbans Wizards give me my probe back. Otherwise nothing
Wyatt Green
>Playing infect >Still
Landon Brown
>playing Spellweaver still >Brewing gonna try a couple main board extractions. Could be a good follow-up from an inquisition to take another card or a way to swing the tron/eldrazi matchups w/ ghost quarter. just not sure what to cut, my first instinct is conflagrate but I'm not sure what's better in g1 in most cases. I board it out with relative frequency, but it can really swing a board state. >Hating How popular surgical is, because it is a pretty good answer against my own plan.
Dylan Sanders
Your deck is just worse dredge in every way
Camden Nelson
it's hardly even comparable to dredge, it doesn't have a remotely similar game plan
Noah Lewis
You put shit in the graveyard in a similar way then try to abuse what's there. You could just be dredging creatures. Your combo is so inconsistent and delicate and you lose to the same hate as dredge. It doesn't matter that your win con is a meme, dredge is just better at doing graveyard shenanigans
Parker Miller
I guess I'll ask here. So for the past 3 months I haven't won a single game with Hatebears, and have been considering converting it to another deck for some time now. With a budget of around $600 what would be a good way to convert it into?
Julian Howard
yes but dredge is uninteractive and doesn't take advantage of the Loam engine the same way. at least compare it to loam pox or zombie loam if you're gonna shit on it
Isaiah Hughes
You could use the vials for Merfolk, Eldrazi&Taxes, or Death&Taxes
Carson James
Repeatedly casting retrace cards is not interaction.
Wyatt Fisher
whats your list?
Landon Morgan
Play eldrazi and taxes
Eldrazi displacer is one of the most powerful and fun cards printed recently
Jace Walker
clearly you know what the deck looks like, so why are you tryna bait like that?
Daniel Sanchez
Death's Shadow is degenerate
Mason Martinez
Because I've played it. It's awful
Jose Roberts
Well shit I feel hella retarded. I just took another look at the deck and I find its still technically not done. Well I guess another option would be to finish it I guess but I'm still up to the idea of converting it to something else.
Sideboard 3 Sunlance 1 Dismember 3 Kor Firewalker 2 Rest in Peace 2 Stony Silence
Yeah I forgot how shit this list was. Still taking suggestions for either upgradeing or converting
Nolan Russell
for
Lincoln Turner
sounds like a (You) problem
Ethan Fisher
Going to my first fnm tomorrow, piloting naya burn. Hope we all do great
Logan Walker
>CoCo >No Vials
It's time for Allies my man
Eli Myers
4x Blackcleave Cliffs 1x Blood Crypt 4x Bloodstained Mire 1x Forest 1x Godless Shrine 1x Kessig Wolf Run 1x Mountain 1x Overgrown Tomb 1x Stomping Ground 1x Swamp 3x Wooded Foothills 4x Architects of Will 4x Deadshot Minotaur 4x Fulminator Mage 1x Jungle Weaver 4x Monstrous Carabid 4x Pale Recluse 3x Simian Spirit Guide 4x Street Wraith 3x Demonic Dread 3x Living End 3x Beast Within 4x Violent Outburst Side: 2x Anger of the Gods 3x Faerie Macabre 3x Gnaw to the Bone 3x Ingot Chewer 1x Krosan Grip 2x Ricochet Trap 1x Slaughter Games
Thoughts/cards you'd rather run? SB mostly vs Burn and Affinity with some concessions to opposing combo and UWR/Grixis, the main gameplan is already solid vs Eldrazi/BGx/DSJ. No Faeries main since they just die to Minotaur if your opponent doesn't have anything to exile (most of the time they don't). No Groves to keep the deck reasonably priced and don't like the notion of giving opponent life. Godless Shrine to hardcast Recluse. I feel 7 Cascades is plenty.
Luke Morgan
go gw aggro with wilt-leaf liege, voice of resurgence, scavenging ooze, and knight of the reliquary. you could also splash black for early hand disruption, lingering souls, and rhino
Tyler Gutierrez
Just ordered the cheap (lol) parts for Naya Burn. Super happy the fetches got reprinted so now i can buy the rest without having to save
Cooper Parker
tfw eat a turn 1 etched champion turn 3 plating
Matthew Sullivan
Happy for you man. When I get my new job I get to buy goblin guides (currently using spark elementals in it's place)
Ayden Anderson
I wish Goyf, Lili and the GB fetch wernt so expensive or else I'd go Junk with this deck. Those 3 cards alone are about $750 for a playset of each, and I really don't wanna try building this as a budget option. Would the option to convert to BW Eldrazi Taxes or Bantdrazi be viable/within budget or is that also very expensive to do?
Brandon Ramirez
BW eldrazi is like 200 tops if you have vials already. Bant has more raw power but is more susceptible to early disruption. The mass amount of synergies in taxes is much more fun
Elijah Ortiz
Displacer and Flickerwisp is very oppressive. It's not the best deck but I sure get a kick out of it
Matthew Nelson
r8 my meme brew
4 Aether Vial 3 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben 3 Maralen of the Mornsong 4 Leonin Arbiter 2 Eldrazi Displacer 2 Restoration Angel 3 Aven Mindcensor 4 Flickerwisp 1 Spellskite 3 Blade Splicer 2 Selfless Spirit 1 Athreos, God of Passage 2 Tidehollow Sculler 4 Path to Exile 4 Ghost Quarter 3 Plains 4 Isolated Chapel 1 Fetid Heath 4 Godless Shrine 3 Caves of Koilos 1 Swamp 2 Vault of the Archangel
SB: 1 Pithing Needle SB: 1 Grafdigger's Cage SB: 2 Burrenton Forge-Tender SB: 1 Tidehollow Sculler SB: 1 Kor Firewalker SB: 1 Mark of Asylum SB: 1 Rest in Peace SB: 1 Leyline of Sanctity SB: 2 Stony Silence SB: 1 Blessed Alliance SB: 1 Celestial Purge SB: 1 Surgical Extraction SB: 1 Wrath of God
Alexander Hughes
how is infect holding up?,
Hudson Diaz
maralen is bad, you just bolt them to let them look for an answer to whatever's on your board? god help you versus combo
Luke Scott
Does Mindcensor and maralen not work the way I think it does?
Levi Rogers
>DSJ meme I beat DSJ with bolt plus helix and snaps Come at me negros
Jose Evans
i doubt you'll get both to stick besides a turn that you vial mindcensor nigga
Isaiah Sanders
also urborg should be in there if you're running chapels and more fetid heaths I think the B stuff you put in doesn't bring too much to the table
>no fatal push
I'd give it a 6/10
Colton Jones
Would you also run goblin grenade in burn for that very small chance of hiring guide? Same principle
Sebastian Sanders
nice, i wanted to build burn too but my meta is just removal (aka fatal push) heavy. hope you got your eidolons cheap
Xavier Ward
>urborg I considered it, but didn't like it because it lets opponents cast dismember without paying as much life >fatal push Replace path with push or add both?
Mason Cook
>meme brew You just took some good cards out of eldrazi taxes and replaced them with bad cards
David Roberts
hey, I never said it was a good meme
Asher Russell
what's your meta like? it depends but i'd run a mix of both (something like 3-2)
i like urborg since you're running 4 chapel and only 8 lands that can trigger them, although i think it's cause dismember isn't popular here (or anywhere?)
Cooper Young
Fair point, I'll drop an urborg in for testing along with the pushes
Jack Bailey
So I play bogles usually but got a buddy making an infect deck and another making an eldrazi set up.
What's some good ways to dominate them and spend less than $100?
It's friendly so I don't want to go full on money deck for friendly fun. I just want to win.
Jaxon Moore
>making infect >after probe ban Embarrassing tbqh
Wyatt Stewart
It's casual friendo. No bans upheld in friend magic night.
Juan Brown
I've still got a modern event deck sealed. Am I sitting on a gold mine yet?
Luke Reed
Cool, can I bring my tinker deck?
Adrian Martin
Yeah just come to daves on monday nights for friendo magic night.
Landon Lewis
>T1 Mox Mox Mox Tinker one into Blightsteel, Lotus, Greaves, equip, attack for 11 infect
Julian Gray
I've been playing the deck for a few weeks and I love it. Playing at the open in Dallas this weekend I took the Collective Brutality out of the main board and replaced it with Anguished Unmaking. Works so-so
Owen Moore
BOGLE
Evan Morris
Goyf ban when
Lucas Garcia
is there a deck that lets me cryptic command 8 times in a game
Jaxson Carter
>what is eternal command
say no more senpai
Luis Perry
...
Jack Collins
>workshop >sol ring >mox >key >time vault
Christian Watson
Is there any budget option for Goyf? I see people mention Scooze and Flayer but is there any others that can take Goyfs place? Could Moldgraf Scavenger work?
Jaxson Richardson
Okay I'm gonna make Ponza but I'm not gonna run Blood Moon for now just to make it cheaper. I imagine they'll come right down after MM17 anyway, especially 8th edition.
Jason Morales
Neither of those come anywhere close to Goyf. You can drop him as a 5/6 on turn 2 for no drawbacks.
Ian Gomez
Scooze, Flayer, Tasigur, Hooting Mandrills are your best bets >Moldgraf
if you're going super budget then yeah he'll work
Hudson Clark
[Spoiler] Vinelasher Kudzu [/spoiler]
Henry Davis
In what deck?
Adrian Jones
be sure to pick em up within two months before the wannabe investors artificially drive prices up
Adam Bailey
Junk. I wanna consider all my options before deciding to drop trying to build it.
May try Tasigur since I have 2 of him already.
Hunter Nelson
Death's Shadow Jund has 8 fucking threats main board and it's still the most weirdly fucking resilient deck I've ever fucking seen
Kevin Sanchez
junk absolutely needs goyf because it's so mana efficient, just pick em up they're dropping like valuable yet abundant
junk lists also already run flayer and tasigur
Gabriel Perez
A better GSZ and 8 cantrips will do that to a deck.
Evan Miller
cus of the recursion and disruption, they pluck removal with 8 discard spells and recur with LOTV 2.0 and kolagahan's
Grayson Turner
I mean it's a 52 card deck after the can trips and traverse mates 4 more threats. If you aren't drawing threats you're drawing a shitload of disruption, so your opponent isn't going to have much going for them either.
Adrian Anderson
You can get rid of answers to your threats and K Command them back. You're playing a 52 card deck, so you're far more likely to draw them, and you have 4 copies of Traverse, so you can basically Chord them out for 1 mana.
Connor Jones
The only thing I'm worried about investors driving up are the cards that didn't get reprinted the number of cards doubling in price since the spoilers is getting out of hand.
Isaiah Allen
oh boy do i have bad news for you
Brandon Wood
DSJ seems pretty rad. I'm too poor to afford it without selling off my Bant Eldrazi deck though, should I go for it?
Jonathan Phillips
Do it. DSJ is fucking amazing
Matthew Garcia
Do nothing until the 13th. Except buy Splinter Twin for the speculation meme.
Lincoln Price
Done. I just bought 4 foil Twins despite already owning a non-foil set from my old Twin deck.
Time to meme
Carter Johnson
I don't think the deck will see another ban after just one month, and as far as speculation memes go you should also not forget to sell your mox opals as it is very clear that a vintage power level card like it will be banned.
Hunter Sanchez
Wow. Hilarious. Even after the hundredth time
Ian Myers
It truly is vintage level. I run 4 of them in my DSJ deck for that bauble synergy
Christopher White
Just go white heavy?
Thomas Gomez
Played living end in a friendly match tonight and got memed on by esper control >LE comes off suspend >he counters >cascade into LE >he thinks for a moment >taps out to cast esper charm >wonder what good that does, he tapped out doesn't matter what he draws- >he declares target player discards two cards, targeting himself >he discards sun titan and grave titan >oh fuck me >sun titan brings back a wall of omens for Xtra fuck me >scoop it up
Lessons learned: esper is the shard of autism
William Hughes
That's pretty awesome. I'mma brew me up some esper.
Nicholas Scott
who the fuck is actually nonironically thinking DSJ will be banned?
Nolan Brown
Is there an m/tg/ discord for xmage/cockatrice testing?
Would anyone use it?
Asher Williams
I give it one more cycle, it's only been a deck for a short while and it's not like eldrazi levels yet
Jason Robinson
>Would anyone use it? Yeah, shitposters and furries.
Christian Edwards
If it weren't for the reprints I'd say it would have been too expensive to ever hit those levels.
Michael Miller
>if you aren't playing this archtype every single other person is playing because its the only viable archtype in this broken format, KYS
why is modern a thing still?
Christian Perez
>modern has only 1 archetype >it literally has everything > except control
go back to your trash standard format faggot
Liam Price
standard is even shittier. standard>Frontier>Modern>Legacy/vintage/etc>EDH
Jaxon Fisher
Modern is the most diverse format, fuck off blue fag >muh 100% blue format legacy is the best
Christopher Bailey
>Most diverse format lmao
Hunter Fisher
that's not fair to frontier, it could be even shittier than standard if anyone actually played it
Cameron Jones
>Modern is the most diverse format 20 different shades of aggro.
Eli Hernandez
Modern is definitely diverse in terms of actual decks, lots of viable archetypes but mostly restricted among aggro, midrange, and combo. No true control decks aside from prison.
Parker Bell
kek'd, frontier players BTFO
Michael Jackson
>Lots of diverse archetypes >So what do you want your goyf and supporting creature cast to be?