DUEL DECKS: MIND VS. MIGHT

magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/duel-decks-mind-vs-might-packaging-2017-03-10

Did they make Jhoira of the Ghitu black?

The Ghitu were always swarthy sand people.

is that lovisa coldeye?

No, they represented her as having swarthy skin, which she always has.

The Ghitu are a desert people, user. Stop being retarded.

Lovisa is a little strange to put in. I guess it's less Barbarian/Berserker and more of a Warrior deck?

Sure looks like it.

We have always been at war with Eastasia.

>someone disagrees with me online
>fucking facist police state 1984 is irl

>black
Are we at the point now where people are unironically too retarded to differentiate between "Black" and "Not White"?

Also, take a luck at Ghitu War Cry, Slinger and Fire-Eater from f ucking Urza's Legacy you flailing retard.

Not as cute as the art her on her original card.

I know that Lovisa is simply red but I hope her deck is not monocolored

I hate to say it because the art is really good, but I prefer the old Lovisa's art.

Either way, what the fuck is up with the choice of representatives? It's completely random.

it will be monocolored

Old does admittedly feel like it fits better.

I just like the style and pose more than anything else. I think this one is better technically speaking.

I love Wayne Reynolds' art though so take that as you will as an indicator of what kind of art I like and Brian Snoddy has a similar style.

I read that as dick for at least a minute there and couldn't figure out why the color identity of her dick was important.

Source?

>her
>dick
Well, you should picked one first

Jhoira got darker after she got trapped in the time rift. She was always non-white though. She got stronger and darker and immortal as she drank from the time rift waters.

Not everything is a personal attack on white people.

seems legit

>Implying a woman couldn't have a dick in a magical fantasy realm

Red waifus for DAYS

They're gonna be foil right? The new art is pretty damn amazing despite the original arts being more iconic, as mentioned earlier in the thread.

Face cards on duel decks are always foil

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>Muh poor opressed poc vs evil chishet white woman
Ironically, the Ghitu would side with Lovisa.

What's the name of that one warrior creature that can give enemy creatures the coward type?

>UR and R decks
That's.. a weird combination of legends/colors

Boldwyr Intimidator?

>Female vs female legendary
>Showing both brawn and brains
>Art redone by two women
>Releases at the end of Women's month

It's nice that they did this, but didn't make a huge deal out of it. I'm sure if they mentioned it, there'd be a shitstorm.

Boldwyr Intimidator

I guess someone wanted waifus

>Let's zoom out as much as possible, least the tumblr crowd get upset about having to live up to the unrealistic beauty standards of an attractive and strong blonde woman in a fantasy world.

That's the one. Flavorful as fuck.

Yeah, I'm the sort of hypocritical scumbag who actually likes this happening, but as soon as Wizards or tumblr exclaims how progressive it is, I'll fly into an autistic rage and grab a pitchfork. So I'm part of the problem.

I would've gone with Lovisa and Sydri instead so that they don't share a color.

that stupid fucking smirk on jhoria's face is perfect for UR

I'm betting on Temur vs Mardu so that Jhoira has big dumb fatties to suspend other than Inkwell Leviathan (again), and Lovisa can have the KTK Chiefs.

That's not even a problem of hypocrisy. If they wanna do stuff like that, it's fine. It gets obnoxious and annoying when they try to push it like it's some big thing.

I mostly hate this shit because they should have learnt from blacks vs italians/greek/irish/jews that you become part of the collective by integrating not by being as harshly offennsive as possible, and that you don't even need to give up your cultural background to integrate.

So long as they keep their "girls rule boys drool" shit we'll keep calling them out for having cooties.

Stop being so autistic, they did this with Nissa vs Ob Nixilis too.

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>Irish used to be one of the most hated subgroups
>now they're just lumped in with WHITE

Future Sight Jhoira will always be my waifu

>hurr hurr, U/R is the smart pairing for smart people, that's why they get the deck about being smart!
Izzet should have been genocided long ago.

Implying any amount of zooming in can penetrate all that animal skin- Wizard's sjw re-designation of the term "hide".

WHY is Lovisa just a human? She is clearly a barbarian or warrior and potentially an advisor.

Is there a reason she's not just a 1/1 with the appropriate creature/class type?

I love the concept, but I hate the card due to this glaring flaw.

Unless I'm misremembering the timeline, she was printed before creatures had more than one type. When they went back and errata'd all of the necessary lords to also be the type of creature they are the lord of in the big creature migration w.e the fuck they didn't errata anything mechanical that could change the card like p/t. Lavish hasn't the unfortunate mistake of already having her bonus count as applying to her in her base p/t and would need 3 additional creature types on her line in order to make the phrasing "All other..." make sense. They went the lazy route and just didn't change her.

I was actually excited to see this. I thought they replaced duel decks with the shitty planeswalker ones. I'll probably buy just to encourage them to keep making them

Because her old type was Human Lord, and they never added anything to replace it when they just dropped Lord from the game entirely. And this is the first time she's ever been reprinted.
Creatures getting multiple types predated Human becoming a type.

There really was no reason to drop the Lord type.
Simply being able to search all "lord" creatures for creature that have the "lord effect" (+1/+1 to specific tribal), would have been useful.

This makes sense on a technical level but if I were wizards, I wouldn't have made that decision; seeing such a hideous card and knowing the context behind it does not compel me to buy the product, first or second market.

I understand that there are certain restrictions when it comes to errata and older cards. What I don't understand is why Wizards actively chooses to reprint cards that can't be reprinted with coherent errata when they have thousands to choose from.

What they should have done was make "Lord" a rare keyword (like protection now); and it simply gives all other creatures that share at least one type with it +1/+1.

Even if they didn't want to associate the type with the ability, they could still use the type for creatures that represent nobles and whatnot.

Nah, that would be unnecessary as fuck.
Think like how all "pilots" have to do with vehicles without needing a keyword.

Yeah I guess, but I think it would have been a bit of a waste.

We have warrior, soldier, and advisor, but we couldn't keep lord. Shame.

Jhoira was actually darker skinned in her original novel. She was described as "sharp-eyed and dark skinned" and the Ghitu in general were "bronze-skinned". If anything, it was the card art that made her white.

ADVISOR TRIBAL SUPPORT WHEN?

No, it's just a trick of the light. She was in bright light in her original art, and most of her body is in shadows in this version.

That being said, both of you are wrong. The ghitu are/can be just as pale as anyone else

>She was just in the shade

Now I hate to call you all paranoid but...

Now, I'm not into musclegirls really, but shouldn't our girl Lovisa be a bit more brawny?

I'm a stringbean, and I could beat that little twig in an arm wrestle.

>differentiate between "Black" and "Not White"?
Hate to be that guy but, what really is the difference?
For most of us they are all just "the other" anyway

>Let's zoom out to show the barbarian boss striking a cool pose
Seems fine to me, relax a little.

It's not about giving, it is about taking.

Am I the only one bothered by her lack of class?

>Legendary Creature - Human Barbarian Warrior Berserker

Blame them abandoning the Lord type and also refusing to do functional errata anymore. Nowadays this card would be Legendary Creature - Human Barbarian or Warrior and pump other creatures. They did errata her to that at one point but I think they realized that was a functional change and switched it back.

Colorshifted to Red and renamed as "Remove Cauc" when?

More like
>Roman Catholics used to be one of the most hated religions
>and then JFK won an election

What if you took a bunch of duel decks, shuffled them together, and made a cube? While making edits here and there, obviously.

Just keep the decks as they are and make a crucible.
Some decks were woefully inadequate vs their partner (Nissa, Kiora, Dragons, Koth, Demonic) but actually play much better against other decks. And there's only four decks that are geniunelly superior to the gamut of others in power level: Elspeth Knight-Errant, Sorin, Tibalt and Elves.

Fucking never, probably. Even though it'd certainly help BR, WR, and monored out a lot which are all undeniably weak in every format.

>Tibalt's only problem is Tibalt himself

2017 summed up in two lines.

kinda like how the arcanis deck was mono blue, right?

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Too bad we didn't get this version.

This Duel Deck feels so outta left field for me
Why these two characters?
They have no relation to previous or upcoming sets as far as we know

This is why i'm glad Romney got BTFO, even if it meant 4 more years of Obongo.

I for one, welcome our new waifu overlords.

>Duel Decks: Smug vs Smug

Complete Magic newb here, what are these? what format are they for?

>Complete Magic newb here
Buy singles.

>what are these?
Duel Decks, one of the many MtG products that aren't for new players.

>what format are they for?
None of them.

Ah. Too bad, they looked cool. I'll just continue never playing Magic.

They are Duel Decks, two 60 cards decks in the same box for 20 bucks
They are good to play against each other and learn the game more deeply than with Intro Pack
Duel Decks are modern legal but far from competitive enough for Modern

>Duel Decks are modern legal but far from competitive enough for Modern
Not all of them are
Tibalt had Sulfuric Vortex in it, and I know its not modern legal. Because I would play it if it was.

Yeah, Wizards makes shit product for everything except for Commander. Buy singles.

MM2017 looks to be pretty nice to be perfectly honest.
I wish there wasn't any trash like stoic angel i th set though.

By product I meant the non-random product (what's the word for this? Fucking tip-of-the-tongue syndrome.) like duel decks, intro decks, event decks, deck builders tool-kits etc.

Other companies release such products that are actually a good deal, why can't Wizards?

>Duel Decks, one of the many MtG products that aren't for new players
Don't listen this piece of shit. Duel Decks are one of the best way to start playing MtG. If you have a friend willing to play with you then you should pick one. Most of these decks are nicely balanced and decent. I'm still using cards from my first duel deck

>Balanced
Tell that to Nissa va ob nixilis, or the one that was coco vs rhino
>Doesn't bring any meaningful card for competitive Play, or if it does, is just 1 copy
Top kek
>They cannot compare in power to a t3 modern deck and are not even standard legal
Wew lad

i wonder how long caveman lady spent in front of her vanity that day

Preconstructed

Ah, thank you.

>None of them

ACTUALLY, it depends on the cards. We don't know what's in their decks and reprinted card can be used in their respective formats.

>And ruin the draft experience for everybody? You know masters sets are draft first right? We just put some reprint on them to be fair but imagine if collectors and investors get the value of their cards down! It would be horrible and unhealthy for the Game!!
T. Maro

I'm sure that newbie player just dream to play his first game on competitive play
>Tell that to Nissa va ob nixilis
Tell that to blessed vs cursed or Elspeth vs Kiora

>Source: my ass

Because obviously the main card does not show the color identity of the deck, look at the Nissa red deck on Nissa va ob nixilis, the obviously black soldier deck of elspeth or maybe the blue deck of koth of the hammer you stupid retard that is incapable of understand how wizards of the coast desing products

Well

Wish I could be as smart as you