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Scyrah truly is amazing if she managed to slap undeath and fedora tipping out of him in one fell swoop.

Isn't Manifest Destiny good though?

Mk3 gave her rules a fresh coat of paint. Does that count?

Not as good as Synergy is.

Grymkin look awful, and the forums are somehow worse than before.

What the fuck did I come back to?

Also, Tristan has nothing in the way of threat extension, where Amon has debatably the best threat extension spell in the game.

a company in the middle of remaking itself, it looks like. We're in that ugly "we're working on it" phase, where everyone screams about how the company is dying and jumps ship, then gets mad when the game catches back up and now they've got to rebuy all the shit that they sold.

>Everyone's waifu

Yep.

You'll get to the acceptance stage soon enough, we all did.

PP is having a seizure.
At least they picked a moment for it after they cleared all the broken shit from meta.

Is this the place to ask about IKRPG specifically? I've only read the first section of the history and some of the rules here and there, and have a certain type of game in mind for the campaign I'll eventually run. Since it's quite a politically dense setting and I don't want to throw all that away by just having dungeon crawling and combat, I thought downtime would be a good solution, so the party do their normal jobs and gain certain benefits and contacts from that but then are called in (as an A-team basically) to deal with stuff that props up in the wilds or wherever else. For the general structure I'm planning to run small modules, from 1-3 sessions or so per, that are fairly combat heavy and then downtime between them. I may take a larger module and split it up or several smaller ones, I haven't read any yet so it depends on which ones are good and fitting.

Now I don't think there are mechanics for downtime as there is in some other games, but I had the idea to reward player research and connections by giving them hints, information, help, and so on. Looking at the Connections, it seems like a good fit for this. So basically how I'd do it is the players have their connections as well as special activities or places they can go to seek out information or help. Each connection has 0-2 (most of them 1) thing gained, for example if they go to the library they may get the history of the dungeon and thus have some idea of what monsters there are, if there are traps, and so on. If someone has a connection to an intelligence network, they may learn that a spy has gone to the dungeon and if still alive can give them help in the form of knowledge or even material aid - and if dead he may have carried a journal. A character connected to a mechaniks organization might get told that it was once used as a repair site for jacks, recieving a key that gives them a access to a workshop safe from monsters and other dangers.

cont.

>cont.
I also had the thought of putting timers on different quests, so they could choose to research and prepare more but face the risk of the situation escalating as a result, though it seems a bit complex and arbitrary. Does this seem good? Any tips on handling connections in general (as the system is larger than just what I'm planning to use it for)?

Anyone have the June retail solicitations?

Any sign of the cygnar pdf?

Should've been "Fuck the Press Gang" edition.

Seems cool m8.

Get hyped faggots.

Okay so seriously how do I beat Ossrum? Like, I won my game against him today because he underestimated the reach of Molik Karn, but holy shit my board was being pasted two shit colour shades of Sunday by these 6 point 12/18 RAT6 RNG12 pieces of shit who boost everything. How do I beat that if my opponent doesn't fuck up?

You can bring Goreshade back to life, but you'll never take the bastard out of him.

Also, those antennas better serve a fucking purpose or else I'm filing em off.

Ghyrshill1, Sellout of The Retribution

You Don't.

Any stats revealed or is it just fluff?

>Try and gum up his board with Karax
>Top fucking lel bulldoze at base and Blasters spraying everything down

>Put up my Krea's bubble
>Top fucking lel all the Gunners are rolling 16.5 on average to hit anyway, then 22.5 on damage

>Can't reach his shit most turns because it's RNG12
>Even if I manage to get close he just pops feat and gets +3ARM on top of a bunch of other free shit

Like oh my god you could drop their RAT by 1 and increase their points cost and they'd STILL be fucking retarded.

8 box gators are back boys

I thought about trying to run some Greylords in my Kozlov list. Primarily, I'd like to have an option to fix MAT, but the spray is also nice to unjam the Shocktrooper (which is their bane, btw).

Mind scanning the fluff as well?

So?

I play Skorne. Reivers or Brigands?

So how does the general feel about the fact PP does not consider us a valid sounding board for ideas and criticism of their game?

TL:DR if you're not Reddit or a pre approved FB group they don't want to hear you speak

Nice. Will the Exemplar theme force make bastions and cinerators 8 as well?

This surprises you how?

I don't have the NQ I'm afraid, found the pic on FB

Unsurprised, mostly. We have a certain reputation and devs usually don't like to associate with that, nevermind the fact that the official forums are a heap of garbage with any actual insight being few and far between.

So they decentralized discussion of their game and then say they don't read anything unless it's in certain places?

Nice post time.

Veeky Forums is possibly the worst place to do anything other than yelling at people and find material for masturbation.

The link is in the previous thread. Check the Archive

the coziest post time

>getting what they should've had from start
>benefits

Shit, I just cannot see the glass half full anymore

I really like it for discussions and gathering opinions and comments without weight, compared to the alternatives at least. Reddit is great for finding some cool fan art or the most popular content/news/whatever, but it's horrible for discussions with more than 2 participants (which is most). Veeky Forums also doesn't care about appearances, if you post horrible art people will be honest and say it's shit for example, and while it's slightly too obsessed with porn for my interests it is better than Reddit with its yay-sayers. People here also have a good sense of humor and I like the community even if it takes some getting used to and it is somewhat strange.

I'd rather not have the loud idiots here trying to influence the devs, personally.

Veeky Forums has a lot of stigma from its less than savory boards that holds it back from wide appeal.

Yeah I'm talking exclusively about Veeky Forums here, some others are cool but /pol/, /b/ etc. are pretty terrible.

/tg is legit awful.

It's mostly just peculiar imo, though it might be worse now than in the past.

Don't other idiots influence them through Facebook, podcasts and at cons?

No, You Just Got Used To It.
It's awful.

The whole beauty of being anonymous is that we really wouldn't know if he was here in the first place.

On one hand this gives me some hope that maybe the Ogrun theme force will also have similar box boosting.

On the other hand, this really drives home how lackluster the new Legion themes were. I still have no idea who thought it was a good idea to make the selling point of the Nephilim theme Unyielding when half of them do not want to be in dedicated melee combat.

After the last few threads, it's not very hard to believe
Constant whining and people saying they are leaving

I'm done with this game. This is the last insult towards Cryx that I can take.

>ded gaem

He's partisan tho

Only mercenaries can be partisans.

Old Witch says hello, and also that you're wrong.

Old Witch 2 is Grim Harvest, Old Witch 3 is Khador.

Quit the game because of a fluff related plot twist? Really? Especially considering he was only using the Nightmare Empire to further his Ios related goals? Shouldn't you be happy he isn't draining your resources anymore?

Holy shit, man, I am fucking laffing so hard. The elvish gods get shit fucking DONE even when they're in a coma.

Vyros must be absolutely fucking livid.

>mfw Skorne try to bring niggas back to life and all they get is nuclear pain ghosts

just look at him, you'd have to be fucking retarded to think he also works for Cryx

I wonder if it's gonna be something like the elvish gods coming back and giving him his body/life back, or if he's going to have had a master plan that allowed him to come back to life after he got what he needed from Cryx

Well, he went in to the Fane, and the Champion of Scyrah walked out. We thought the latter figure might be him, but now it's pretty much confirmed.

Which means Scyrah almost certainly restored him to life and gave him elflightenment.

Can the lore people update me on the status of Retribution, or to be more precise, Nyssor?

Is he still frozen in Khador or did Retribution actually manage to break into the Greylord fortress?

>first elves get Lich Lord Elara
>now they have 4shade the Balling

Move aside Cryx, step off Grymkin, Ret is hosting the dead man's party this year.

>Is he still frozen in Khador or did Retribution actually manage to break into the Greylord fortress?

He never got to the fortress IIRC.

Ret intercepted Zerkova's convoy en route and stole him back. He was brought into Ios by Ossyan, who promptly had all the credit swept out from under him by Vyros.

Is Ossyan the guy who got his ass kicked by Goreshade, Skorne and the Ret higher-ups constantly shit on him?

So, is Retribution done in Khador for the moment or are they still focusing their efforts there? Last I remember is that Skorne is knocking at the door.

>Is Ossyan the guy who got his ass kicked by Goreshade

Yes. Though I guess he sort of won that by getting Nyssor away, even if Goreshade beat him up.

>Skorne

We haven't seen him fighting any Skorne.

>and the Ret higher-ups constantly shit on him?

Yep.

>So, is Retribution done in Khador for the moment or are they still focusing their efforts there?

Mostly done for now. Though they have lots of Nyss returning to Ios now, and there are Ret people helping them leave Khador.

If there's any more important fighting with Khador, I imagine it'd be in Llael. I doubt Ios likes having Khador close to its borders, especially after they tried to steal Nyssor. Ios liked having Llael there because Llael was a minor, relatively respectful nation.

>Last I remember is that Skorne is knocking at the door.

Supposedly the Skorne were turned away in a ridiculously decisive manner after Goreshade made it to the Fane. Mostly everyone assumed that Scyrah woke up an personally kicked the Skorne out. But hey, maybe it was Goreshade that did the kicking.

>all this hype
Is Ghyrrshyld going to make Ios great again?

So overall, Retribution is doing pretty well in the grand scheme of things (well, as well as they can I guess)?

They don't seem to be getting mauled like Cygnar (who are getting their asses kicked by Cryx and Skorne), Khador (who are getting their asses kicked by the Protectorate, Cephalyx/Cryx and Llael resistance) and Trolls (who are always getting their asses kicked).

Retribution and Ios are most certainly not doing okay. In fact, one could argue they are indeed the worst off when it comes to demographics and strategic assets.

>Elven reincarnation cycle is fucked to hell
>Soulless are still being born in increasing rates
>Several Iosan gods are MIA - or KIA according to Goreshade
>Both remaining Iosan gods are in comas and their health is getting worse
>Skorne have not only broken into Ios, but also damaged massive fortifications, killed god knows how many, started enslaving others and taken up residence within the borders.
>The illusion of myth that Ios is impenetrable has been destroyed by the Skorne invasion exposing Ios as a potential target to any other kingdom interested in invading

Never mind that Ios population - as noted at the start of Mk2 - was approximately 1 million Iosans total (including soulless). Given that the vast majority of these are non-combatant, that gives Ios a significantly smaller military force than any other kingdom.

Demographically, they are fucked. Its just a matter of time.

After the Skorne kicked Vinter out they mostly stopped attacking Cygnar and started settling old grudges with Ios.

Khador is definitely not getting it's ass kicked. The world map supports this.

OH NO PROTECTORATE TOOK THE EASTERN HALF OF LAELL

Khador never wanted anything east of the dividing river, this is even in the original d20 fluff, they wanted to leave a buffer state between its new boundary and ios.

It's not getting it's ass kicked, but after Julius got crowned, proposed to the last leallese princess, and had the northern army roundhouse kick Khador's forces in the thornwood, Khador's on it's back foot at the moment.

Also, true lorefags may know better than I, but isn't The Butcher's motivation that he's in love with the queen? If it's true, then both Zoktavir and Sorscha are gonna be mad after the queen's wedding.

Also, also, how is Karchev after the Cryxian torture event? Is he all better now?

Wasn't Karchev strapped to a makeshift body and allowed back into the fight against the Necrofactorum despite Strakhov's wishes?

How do they consistently manage to get flash on the most delicately detailed parts of the model instead of the flat undetailed spaces right next to them?

Will Rhul ever get off their asses and do anything of significance in the fluff? I mean fluff-wise are they not one of the most formidable of the countries/factions?

Hey guys, I want to make a fluffy list loosely based on this story about Kozlov: privateerpress.com/files/PathofHonorPathofBlood.pdf

Things that were there for sure:
- His Battlebox (1 Juggernaut, 1 Decimator)
- A bunch of peasants (represented by Kossites)
- Iron Fangs

Aesthetically this looks awesome on the table (People in Iron Fang armor, people in furs and the three guys in Iron Fang armor AND furs), but the Gobber Tinker is pissing me off so bad. Why is the god damn Decimator so friggin' expensive?

Do you prefer reading a book or riding a bike?

>The Reborn
>It's not Mordikaar
I'm a bit mad. Like 17% mad.

Good. The boards that went to utter shit are that way explicitly because of their wide appeal.

Don't worry. On the plus side you can finally play all your banes. In Ret.

Fluff-wise, they are the most insular faction. The Rhulic characters we see active in the world are actually outlier in their society. More than likely, the nation of Rhul will do nothing until provoked and noone is willing to poke the bear.

Well, that's as close as you'll get to playable with Yuri&co under Kozlov.
The only way I can see to improve it is swapping one Juggernaut and something for second big infantry unit, either fangs or uhlans, to hotswap Fury.

Which Cryx model is the best design and why is it Nightmare?

Why would they? They are far better off just getting filthy rich via trade. Why make one of your trade partners your enemy?

It isn't even the coolest Slayer.

>proven cheater calling the kettle black

>are they not one of the most formidable of the countries/factions?
So long as Gunners remain unnerfed, correct.

I'm not even sure they're the problem here. Without Assram removing any of their weaknesses they're basically 2/3 of a Charger for 2/3 of the price.

What I don't understand is why they gave a single caster 6 of the most powerful spells in the game with zero duds.
>Bullet Dodger
Should pretty fucking obviously be against ranged and magic attacks but just gives a flat +2DEF
>Energizer
Xerxis1 just gained the ability to move a single model 2" by spending 2 fury. This spell is about 10x better
>Fire for Effect
Free damage
>Snipe
In Hordes this is a self cast animus
>Stranglehold
Probably the best single target nuke in the game
>Unstoppable Force
"It is impossible to tie up my warjacks, and I can pull all sorts of bullshit especially with my +3SPD feat"

What the fuck were they smoking when they put Ossrum next to pre-errata Morghoul2 and thought, "Yeah, these are as good as each other"?

Yes, exactly. But wait, there's more. Tactician and the feat are crazy good. His only downsides are his Focus value and that there's not really a good theme force for him.

I'm over Morghoul2 though. Yeah, they fucked him up, but he's fixed now so that's fine.