Should I drop my $700 in savings on Splinter Twin?
Isaac Wood
don't. delet this
Nathaniel Campbell
bgx or eldrazi, anything with speed + hand disruption really
Nathaniel Sanchez
convince me not to spend $1200 to spec on twin
Grayson Lee
Spend it on Jace
Andrew Brown
Because everyone will laugh at you when twin stays banned forever. fact, they'll announce a new Super Permanent Ban List and cards on the SPBL will never be unbanned for any reason. They'll start the SPBL with twin.
Julian Morgan
Best MTG trannies?
Logan Cox
Frank lepore. Love it
Dylan Cook
I dont believe you
Ryan Stewart
i remember the time his convos got leaked about cheating on melissa de tora. cringy af
it's ok mel cheated in an RTR tournament anyway
Jayden Wilson
Is there a single deck that utilizes Eldritch Evolution?
Cooper Edwards
Ban reality smasher
Josiah Bell
>i remember the time his convos got leaked about cheating on melissa de tora. cringy af
>memelord frank lepore cheated on melissa de tora
Fuck my life, that dude struck me as a total virgin based off how annoying he was
link to the leaked convos?
Easton Campbell
Yes there's a naya list that runs it
Easton Bennett
Let's say they unban JTMS. How hard/easy is he to deal with?
Gavin Walker
Well considering they probably play him in control, the turn they tap out to play him they're pretty much dead
>tappedout.net/mtg-decks/10-03-17-gb-elves/ I posted a couple threads ago with a Mono G elves list. It was suggested I change it to G/B or even Abzan. Does this look like a traditional G/B Elves list? I do intend to replace the Llanowar Wastes with Cavern of Souls, but otherwise I think the mainboard is complete. I could maybe replace the Vanquisher with a mainboard Scavenging Ooze.
Otherwise the deck is just my mono G list with some of the fat trimmed and a new manabase.
Carter Edwards
drop wren for another ezuri and get rid of abbey unless you're desperately clinging to the meme dream.
David Morris
Really? People were really telling me to grab the Westvale Abbey to flip it in response to a boardwipe. I wasn't sold on it myself, but the recommendations had more merit than I anticipated at first. I don't like the fact that it doesn't tap for colored mana, though.
Wren's Run will probably end up getting cut, so Ezuri is probably the pick.
Tyler Gutierrez
Every deck needs a one-of meme dream.
Asher Edwards
It's not terrible but it's risky in a deck with only 19 lands. It's gonna cause to you mulligan away hands where it's your only land.
Thomas Wilson
Here's the thing senpai. The board wipes that fuck your shit up, like pyroclasm and anger, are cast before you can flip abby. The one's that don't like verdict and wrath or whatever, are run in decks that you're gonna eat a nice path anyways. In the end, think reasonably, when in the fuck is that ever going to be useful? If it didn't cost 5 to activate I'd say go for it, but it does, and it's no good.
Nicholas Edwards
Yeah, that's more of why I'm hesitant rather than it being only seldom useful. I'm going to try it for a few weeks once I get the lands together and see if I like or not. I have a ton of copies of Abbery from trying to play tokens in standard.
When I get the Caverns in a month or two, I might just get 3 if I really dislike the abbey.
Ian Brown
What does it matters? Just buy chink fakes and resell them on ebay
Brandon Cox
Why don't people make themselves into cards anymore? Snapcaster and Bob and Ranger of Eos are so cool, why did they stop doing that?
Isaiah Torres
Because wizards are faggots
Owen Wood
Because vanity cards have been stopped. The only chance we'll get now are You Make The Card, which has had some great results in the past.
Benjamin Powell
Wow. Nice reading comprehension. I feel bad for you.
Dylan Carter
Which cards did you make? And why is some fat nerd on Veeky Forums making cards?
Charles Wright
Waste not
Aaron Gutierrez
Waste Not, Crucible of Worlds, Forgotten Ancient, and Vanish Into Memory.
Jaxon Allen
so, what might actually happen if someone at wizards had a mental breakdown and managed to sneak counterspell into a standard set making it modern legal?
Would it actually have any effect? it feels like the current type of decks that can manage to have UU available on turn 2 don't really have the necessary support they would need to make them viable even with a hard 2 mana counterspell
Ethan Cox
There seem to be an awful lot of people on Veeky Forums promoting purchasing Chinese proxies. Is this some meme I've missed, or are they shills, or are people just really passionate about buying fake cards and want to spread the message? It's like anons never miss a chance to bring it up.
Blake Gray
Went 2-1 with burn. Missplayed the mirror and lantern control is BULLSHIT, but at least grixis control did half the work for me. Fun tho. How did yalls night go Veeky Forums?
Ryan Gutierrez
It's poorfags trying to convince themselves their fakes look good
Colton Johnson
My money is on shills. They push the whole thing pretty hard, even probably samefag some sort of "where can I get these" response. It's just pathetic, really.
3- 1 with burn. Only lost the race to elves. I am ashamed of myself. I will commit ritual sudoku.
John Williams
I didn't make it to FNM. Ran into multiple instances of unrelated bullshit at work that piled up and I didn't make it home until nearly 8pm. oh well, there's always edh on saturday....
Noah Roberts
>lantern is bullshit >plays burn
Isaac Richardson
Played u/w control, went 3 - 0. First time playing the deck in paper, so I'm pretty happy about it. Beat eldrazi tron, bant eldrazi, and sun & moon.
Carson Barnes
4-0 with Soul Sisters my local meta is pretty casual, but I also dodged tron and Infect. I got fair decks all the way to the end, which was fortunate. Even Death's Shadow couldn't get me down, but it did get the closest. Archangel of Thune managed to close most every game out that I managed to resolve it.
Leo Moore
Elves is crazy though. One time I cryptic commanded against my opponent on his upkeep, choosing tap all creatures and draw a card. If he was able to swing in that turn I'd be dead for sure. I figured since it was his upkeep even if he tapped for mana in response he wouldn't be able to do anything with it. In response, he goes coco into chord into shaman of the pack, burns me out GG.
Hunter Nelson
Thune is such a sweet card.
Logan Hill
Well, I guess i dont feel too bad. Plus he was the guy to 4- 0 and hit the number 1 spot, so he must have been doing something right. I think elves can be nuts in the right meta, and he just made the right call.
Luis Carter
Hey user at least with burn you have the whole game to win. Once that lock is in place it's over.
Dylan Foster
i quit the competitive scene because twin was banned. it eventually led to me not playing anymore. every once in awhile i'll stomp some scrubs with the decks they made just because i can. heh. nothin personnel kid.
Gabriel Ward
It would make non-Blue players unreasonably mad, to the levels that the Twin bad did for combo players.
Since non-blue is theoretically 80% of the player base, WotC has no incentive to take the risk of players complaining about a single event for years.
William Wilson
I know how lantern works I'm just amazed you can complain about lantern when it's a favorable matchup for you.
Samuel Ross
So is anyone doing the open in Dallas tomorrow?
Brayden Parker
3-1 as burn as well. Lost to the soul sisters match up, which is reasonable.
The affinity matchup was fun, he had me at 2 life with my eidolon out and then he dropped an etched champion which brought him down to 1.
I draw a lightning bolt and was ready to scoop, but I swing in with eidolon, he blocks with etched instead of an ornithopter, so I slam that bolt hard.
Last round was against eldrazi tron and I absolutely whooped his ass.
Luke Wood
Debbie is
Matthew Allen
It really is. I'm surprised it's not seeing play in more places, but it is an expensive creature that doesn't really win on its own.
Evan James
Are you Debbie?
Joshua Gutierrez
Not even fucking with you, at least 2x in the current price. Whenever something is playable in Legacy and Modern; it becomes retarded in price.
I would also absolutely speculate on Jace unban. Risk:Reward is justifiable and the odds really are not that low. Blue sucks in Modern, Blue has sucked in Modern since Twin ban - they aren't going to unban Twin, so the best way of introducing some power to the color is Jace.
Bentley Perez
>2-2 with storm >played burn twice Guess what my losses were to. But I actually managed to go 2-1 each time, but fuck me main deck hate cards really chap my ass. I think the deck is real though, I beat bang Eldrazi and Jund besides that, baby Eldrazi even had a decent amount of hate between rip and eidolon of rhetoric. btw fuck burn
Christopher Sullivan
Hmm, it depends. Like I think Grixis could definitely play 4x Counterspell and become a far more successful deck. 2-mana universal answer at the cost of UU is actually far better than you give it credit for.
With that said I don't think it would radically change the format. Since Blue would still be on the beatdown with 2/1s as it's wincon plan. Now if they had a mental breakdown and put Force in a Standard set....
Evan Evans
counterspell would see more modern play than force
Ethan Johnson
Yeah force is necessary in legacy cause people kill you turn 1. That doesn't happen in modern.
Chase Butler
The card filtering helps too. A card that's absolutely necessary in some match ups but really bad in others is a lot easier to play when you can brainstorm it away.
Chase Wright
Link / screenshot of convos?
Adam Torres
Lads. Is Thoughtseize going to get hit? Seriously thinking about it. Why is IoK getting all these reprints? Why did they make an improved version of Despise (Harsh Scrutiny), and only a few years prior, do a reprint of Despise itself?
Right now the discard suite is Thoughtseize and IoK. That's it. There's no trinity of options. Take out Thoughtseize and Duress + Harsh Scrutiny actually get used.
>own a playset Thoughtseize from Theros >only have one IoK If the former goes, is the latter going to spike?
William Edwards
Its just one pathetic shill who is too autistic to play at flgs
Jason James
Never drew any destructive revelry for the turn0 leyline or any artifact destruction. Chalking it up to bad luck
Easton Smith
How would modern react to both SFM and Jace coming off the ban list? Neither card at this stage feels like it would massively affect modern on their own. Interesting also how SFM has fallen off in popularity in recent years in Legacy and is no where near the power level it used to be
Jaxson Flores
Counterspell doesn't fix blues issue in modern at all. It would improve a couple matchups slightly but overall would do nothing in the grand scheme. People give counterspell way more credit than it's worth
Eli Nelson
if they ban thoughtseize you might as well quit magic since that indicates that Wotc truly has no fucking idea what they're doing. Ts is a fair, interactive card and the only way they would ban it is if they listen exclusively to timmys who get upset when you play anything that isn't a 2/2 bear. It also isn't time for thoughtseize to be reprinted too so that's a factor.
Gavin White
Zero chance thoughtseize gets banned. And Iok was an uncommon that was over $20
Noah Green
I doubt it. The card isn't oppressive, and DSJ is a really fair deck.
Aaron Bailey
Yes, but it would see play. Every deck running mana leak would use counterspell instead. Comparatively force would see some sideboard play at best.
Jacob Scott
If they ban Thoughtseize we might as well consider the Modern format dead as it will really show Wizards is willing to ban just about anything. Thoughtseize is a fair card and without cards like this linear decks would overrun the format
Colton Thomas
They would be like bitterblossom and nacatl. Cards that were previously oppressive but due to new cards, shift in meta and more aggressive archetypes, they wouldn't even be that good
Lucas Jackson
If you can't beat a t0 leyline you're going to lose most of the time I'd imagine. Think of it like this Lantern tries to control your draw step and burn is a very redundant deck where almost all of their topdecks are live and get around bridge making it hard to lock them out like other decks. Coupled with the fact that burn is usually pretty fast that means trouble for lantern. Granted some lantern builds hedge heavily to improve the burn matchup and we've gotten some goodies like inventor's fair and brutality recently but it's still a rough matchup.
Kayden King
it's also a trash card
Daniel Butler
the joke is that you don't know the joke
wew
Hunter Long
I think SFM would be super strong, but probably fine. Wizards doesn't print good equipment anymore either, so there's not really a risk of it becoming more broken than it is now like dredge or pod.
Luke Sanders
>he current type of decks that can manage to have UU available on turn 2
Every deck. Literally every deck in existence can change it's manabase to have UU available on turn 2 and not become noticeably worse.
One of the biggest problems with modern is that multicoloured is just too easy and consistent. For the price of 3 - 6 life, you can run 4 colour just as consistently as dual colour, or even monocolour.
Fetchlands + ravnica lands combo was a mistake.
Cameron Perez
Whats the joke?
Jeremiah Perry
>inventors fair That card was a pain
Cameron Sanders
How do people still think SFM would be an okay card to unban when Batterskull is still a card?
Christian Nguyen
There's a lot more answers to artifacts and enchantments than there were.
It's still a stupid idea. I think if you unban SFM, you need to ban Batterskull.
Noah Long
Wrong. Batterskull is seeing next to zero play in the current meta - its not that good.
Anthony Martinez
Because a 4/4 lifelink on turn 3 is far from degenerate with what people are doing in modern. Heck majority of games the stoneforge mystic will die before even getting to play the batterskull. The game itself will probably end before the batterskull even comes down normally. You forget Modern doesn't have FOW or Daze to protect the Stoneforge like in Legacy and these days Stoneforge isn't good enough for Legacy either. Also no Jitte in the format
Brayden Peterson
Because you can't cheat it in. Fucking duh
Asher Hughes
Because Batterskull is way too slow on it's own.
Man people cry about Stoneforge Mystic but who here remembers the moaning about Bittterblossom and how it would be far too much for the format. Funny that huh
Connor Walker
I hate Soul Sisters.
Jeremiah Roberts
death to burn players
Jordan Garcia
I sure do.
Green is unanimously the strongest colour in modern. It is also the only one that doesnt have an oncolour 1 mana answer to sfm.
B - Thoughtseize, Inquisition, Fatal Push U - Spell Snare G - Dismember? R - Lightning Bolt W- Path to Exile.
If they manage to land the sfm and somehow it doesnt die for their turn or yours, then there are plenty of ways you can deal with the germ or the batterskull.