Warhammer 40,000 /40kg/

>New daemon possession rules to allow non-daemon characters and armies to get daemon rules
>It can be applied to all armies except Tyranids, genestealers cults, Tau, and Necrons

Justify this, Veeky Forums.

One of my club's founding members who does like half of the work that goes into having regular game nights and stuff here is a massively annoying power gamer who doesn't understand what a casual game is and he seems to think everything is just practice for the next ETC tournament.
He's a fun guy otherwise and everyone else likes to play him too, I'm starting to take my W/L ratio against him personally.

Reposting from last thread, got some advice so far.

Playing my first game on Tuesday, what do you think of this set up? I have yet to put the second group of tactical marines, the ravenwing knights or the rhino together so I can change their weapons or even make the knights a command squad etc.

I also have 2 company masters I could field and Belial but these two HQ seem better and cheaper in my opinion. I'm also going to remove the combat shield on the veteran and move it to the bolter guy. The vets haven't been painted or even sprayed yet so happy to take them apart at this point.

>beat to making the new general and rekt by a NEET

I literally have been stripped of all my honor

Warlord can be a possessed by daemon prince
Applies to Necrons
Lmao

No such person, only person I might not want to play avoid playing me since I have several armies and my lists always change so he can't hard counter.

I'd bump the Secutarii to at least 12-15 models, that -1 S to incoming fire will really fuck with things trying to shoot them and it's a shame to lose it after a single casualty.

The raeg as bolters suddenly become lasguns is worth it if nothing else.

full context please CNN

its an optional fluff game you can play with GKs, not a legit new rule

Nids and Genestealer Cults can't get Daemonic Possession because Shadow in the Warp and other psychic fuckery.

Tau aren't psychically active enough to draw in a daemon.

Necrons have no psyker ability whatsoever.

>if so where exactly?

well
>Magos Cawl inclined his head, and told an incredible tale. Cawl explained that, in the years before Guilliman was mortally wounded, the Primarch had summoned him into his confidence. Cawl’s mem-engrams of that meeting were eroded and incomplete, but he believed that Guilliman had seen in him the potential for great things. The Magos had been charged with a great labour by Roboute Guilliman, one for which he would be richly rewarded with information that only a Primarch could provide. Cawl stated that he was not at liberty to reveal the nature of his task, forestalling Calgar’s angry response by explaining that his labours had been divided into two distinct parts, and that he was here to deliver on the first of those. He brought a magnificent new suit of armour fit for the Ultramarines Primarch, one whose ancillary systems possessed the power to heal Guilliman’s grievous wounds.

later
>The Tech-Priest stepped forward, however, emitting a blurt of binharic cant and bowing before Guilliman. With skittering haste, Archmagos Cawl swayed up the steps behind the Primarch and came to his side. Guilliman waited, impatient, as the two Martian priests exchanged encoded binharic blurts, then Cawl turned to him and spoke cryptic words. Only the Custodes heard what was said, of secret pacts on Mars, and long works drawing at last to their conclusions, but – as with so many dark secrets exchanged over the millennia upon these very steps – they affected deafness and ignorance.

and
>New armies would be raised, in breathtaking numbers. From Belisarius Cawl’s forges on Mars, Guilliman planned to bring forth new and terrible weapons whose fury even the worshippers of the Chaos Gods would be unable to withstand.

Rather than super-marines, it implies mars is going to start making new shit. Which lines up with marines using new equipment, rather than sigmarine super-marines.

Hopefully it means chaos gets a chosen kit to fight them.

What do you play and what does he play? Also whats your record against him?

games workshop shows up at your front door and tells you that you've been chosen to add 3 more factions into the warhammer setting for the 42nd millennium.

Here are the caveats:
1. One faction at least must be an existing group already mentioned once in lore. Iron Men, Slaan, Demiurge, Megarachnids, Kroot or Rak,Gol
2. One faction at least must be completely new, but must be able to somehow fit into the setting. Either a new galactic invader or and awakening or lived in undiscovered space.

In fact the warlord is daemonic with no restrictions on race

The videos weren't Duncan you shitposting troll, it was meme videos.

There's one guy who I think has problems, and he gets really, really er...emotional when things go badly for him.

Genuinely scared he's going to lash out at someone some day, the manager regularly tells him to calm down.

Makes the games needlessly stressful, because I'm there praying he's not going to have a bad saving roll and punch someone whenever I shoot at him.

is this any good? stopped playing during 3rd ed, getting slowly burnt out with other tabletops. Every time I see 40k tables it's just huge robots and almost no infantry. Which factions can go infantry-heavy?

“The Adversary’s Warlord gains the Daemon, Fleshbane, Armourbaneand Smash special rules, as well as a 3+ invulnerable save.
The Adversary can tak”

Excerpt From: Games Workshop Ltd. “Gathering Storm - Rise of the Primarch.” Games Workshop Ltd, 2017-04-03. iBooks

also have this, every time he rolls a one (even if he makes 30 2+s before that) he cusses and yells and stomps his dice, worried for my models safety whenever i have to play him

Good catch!

guard, marines, necrons

I'm kinda tempted to try "Highlander" games out, where you can't run duplicate unit choices or allied detachments. Brings some variety.

We have a guy like that, really fat asshole too. We had a young lad in store once who was learning the rules and shit and he just started using insane moves and rules to destroy them and act really cocky when he won but he will actually start crying when he loses.

I'd slap them round the face and tell them they don't need new factions, they need to provide proper support for their existing ones and work on the core rules more before releasing new editions.

Then I'd set my dags on them and shout 'PLASTIC SISTERS WHEN?!' at them as they scrambled back down the path to their solid gold limo which, given the area I live in, has had it's hubcaps stolen in the 2 minutes it was parked there.

He had Imperial Guard back in 5th/6th edition and I seem to remember running marines/Dark Angels. Right now I've got decent-sized armies of Marines, Imperial Guard and Sisters of Battle and he plays Space Wolves and wants to start Orks. I only played one 1k battle against his wolves with my sisters (since I only recently got back into the hobby after AoS killed it for me) and lost pretty bad.
I can't even remember how many battles we've played, must have been well over 20 and I only remember winning or drawing 3-4 times, and that was only with Deathwing back in early 6th.

Rak'gol could be interesting.
As for new faction, maybe Skaven in space? Heavily mutated rat-men doing all wacky stuff with radiation and warpfuckery, invading the webway and being a general nuisance throughout the galaxy.

NEET in theory yes, I have loads of education and I enjoy working hard but sadly most jobs here require you to sell yourself and "live the job".

I just wan't to punch in, work 7 hours, punch out and get paid at months end.

For some reason "I'm not here to have fun or make friends, I'm here to do work and get paid" isn't a good selling point on the job market anymore.

Death guard.

Skitarii, Guard, Necrons, Marines can all pull of infantry heavy lists very well. Skitarii and Necrons can basically just spam their basic troops (Skitarii with arc rifles) and eliminate pretty much anything thats thrown at them without support.

I think the huge robot/vehicle spam is less to do with infantry lists not being viable and more to do with people buying the newest, latest thing and wanting to play with it.

Which Primarch do you think browses /pol/

Hmn interesting stuff. I sense a time-skip to more models and tech

You need another transport for your second tac squad, there's a lot of wasted points like and no real direction for a lot of things like power sword on the huntmaster.

Also you could look towards putting the lib on a bike and using a Ravenwing Strike Force instead of making them part of your CAD.

The veterans are also footslogging and are going to be of questionable use. Alternatively you can reduce a tac squad to 5 if you get a 2nd rhino and have them join up.

Other than that it's just weapon choices like having plasma and a grav in your tacs instead of taking grav bikes, etc.

I realise with deathwing and ravenwing it's mostly a fluffy army and I don't know enough about DA to speak on it.

>I'm unemployed, have no sleep rythm left and I hate forced memes.
Are you me, Battle Brother?

>only paint and collect
>realize I have a showcase-tier amount of models to actually play the game

Is it actually any fun to play, though? I've been binge watching tutorials on playing the game and battle reports, but... can't see the forest through the trees and it's all just.. I don't know. Is it more fun to play than to watch?

>For some reason

Because everyone can do what you do. And if they look hard enough they'll find someone who can do same as you but better and/or cheaper, because of passion and/or need for a salary no matter what.

For my job I had to compete against about a thousand other dudes, when they were less than 20 places. Wanting a job is not enough, you need passion, you need to deserve this job.

We have come to a point where we don't have enough "good" jobs for everyone, so we fight to get one.

Makes perfect sense to me, bruv, what's the issue?

I'm actually surprised GW went with the fluff for once instead of being like AH FUCK IT EVERYONE CAN HAVE DAEMONS LOL ITS JUST A GAME BRO Y U MAD

>worried for my models safety

I hate this. Also applies for people fucking around near the tables too much.

I'm sure imitating an Ork with a Tyranid ripper attached to it's face is hilarious, but it won't be if you trip over and crush 500pts of my army.

The Lion, Perturabo, Lorgar and Kurze.

All have a suitably large persecution complex to fit in well there.

>maybe Skaven in space?
I hate this fucking meme so much. I swear to god there is one ratfucking turbo-autist mega skaven fanboi poster infesting these generals who can't go one week without asking for Space Skaven to be added to 40k no matter how many times everyone tells him that other races already do everything they do and have actual unique concepts instead of "hurrrr it's PEOPLE but [insert animal]-PEOPLE". Fuck off you furry faggot.

Lorgar is /pol/ personified.

Knight Crusader, rocket pod
5x vanguard (10), omni, 2 arc rifles
15 secutarii hoplites
15 secutarii peltasts, omni
2x2 dragoons
onager, neutron laser
onager, icarus array

2k

ok?

space skaven has a lot of potential desu

Maybe, ah well only.. 34 years til I can retire.

Rather than a time-skip, I see it as new specialists for imperial armies. Guys with new gear, but integrated so as to mitigate the MUH ARMY IS IVALIDATED FUCK GW screams.

But who knows, they could be doing fucking anything. High-tech Cadian veterans representing the survivors of the gathering storm would be pretty gr8 tho.

>old friend I haven't seen in years contacts me out of the blue
>asks if I still play 40k
>start talking about 40k again
>says he has a bunch of dudes starting up
>get invited to kill team
>everyone is really chill
>actually have a fun time with no bitching

I... I think I'm too autistic to process these events...

Can't decide between playing nurgle or slaanesh. I already have a 1000 point nurgle daemonic incursion just from my age of sigmar collection, but I also have some daemonettes. I like how daemonette models look, and I have fun painting them.

Please show me on this puppet where the evil rats have touched you user.

Process THIS! *grabs crotch*

the internet is good at making things seem worse than they really are

Duncan has been abused and betrayed.
It's better for all if he isn't dragged through the mud like that.

Literally every single thing Skaven do is already done better by Skitarii, Orks, Genestealer Cults or Nurgle, and none of those are the retarded fantasy trope of "I have no creativity, what if this race was just [animal] but anthropomorphized?"

Space Skaven would be the dumbest fucking addition to 40k since... honestly I can't think of anything dumber. It makes Tau look like a masterful addition.

>It makes Tau look like a masterful addition.

They are though.

Skaven speaks a lot to the imagination and would be a fine addition desu

>I just wan't to punch in, work 7 hours, punch out and get paid at months end.

That's all I want too. Unfortunately I'm terrified of confrontation so I kill myself to avoid letting anyone down/not pulling my weight and everything spirals into overtime and increased 'responsibilities'.

I wish I could be a NEET. If you can, staying with your parents and getting neetbux is as good as life gets in my opinion, nothing is better once you move out despite what people say, it's just lonely and you have no time or money.

Only benefits ambitious people who have dreams of stuff that needs lots of money.

It's not even that I had anything against Skaven in particular until this same faggot kept bringing it up over and over and over. Shit I actually like them in Fantasy and would probably have played them there. But it's like the Night Lords autist, they've just been completely ruined now.

I liked it when it was legit Duncan, but outside once when it was a link to the Warhammer TV master list it's been anime and random bullshit for over a week.

its obviously a trap user, no-one actually plays 40k to have fun, they just want to trick you into not bringing WAAC lists that are incredibly unfun to play against so they can beat you and steal your star chips

I've linked actual duncan videos a few times this week but it never lasts with the autists

Tau are the most controversial race in 40k and you know it. Even if some people really like them, they also draw enough hate that they cannot be considered "masterful". Personally I'm mostly neutral on Tau, I think the concept is alright but the current execution is kind of going to shit (that's true of almost every 40k race in current year though so it's not saying much).

>Punished Duncan
>next video he stops painting and looks into the camera deadpan
>"why are we still here?"

Looks good, got the anti-air in there now as well to make flyers cry and they do show up fairly regularly at 2k pts.

Don't ever bother with plasma pistols.
Don't put plasma guns on Ravenwing Bikes, that makes them cost the same as Black Knights, who are objectively better. Give regular bikers either melta or grav.
Pay the 5 points for a chainfist on the termies.
Don't take a power weapon on the Huntmaster, instead take the black knights as a ravenwing command squad and upgrade him to a Champion.
It costs 7 points less, gives him an improved power sword and an extra point of weapon skill.
Consider upgrading to mastery level 2.
Get another rhino?

Play both. Daemon Codex doesn't force you to go mono-god by any means.

>power games
>wants to play orks

>just to prime

>I wish I could be a NEET. If you can, staying with your parents and getting neetbux is as good as life gets in my opinion, nothing is better once you move out despite what people say, it's just lonely and you have no time or money.

I'm the opposite, when I've no work I just rot, start up games, shut them down, shuffle myn minis aroufnthe table give that up and have a nap, repeat ad nauseum.

I got more Warhammer work done in the afternoons after work than I have in the a last 3 months of free time.

>the internet is good at making things seem worse than they really are

Crazy talk. Next you'll be telling me that whites aren't actually being genocided and there isn't really a glass ceiling or paygap!

Look at this picture, can you feel the diversity?
Diversity is strength.

>every night, i thin my paints with a little water

1. Independent C'tan. They freed themselves from Necrons and enslaved some xenos/created new warriors
2. Hypercapitalistic turtlemen who organize pirates and such to an empire. They also somehow manage to find a way to create thunder warriors or not!thunder warriors but they can't mass produce them. They look like the turtle species from stellaris.

That was Kaz though. The visionary robbed of his future. Punished Duncan would just say "I'm already a demon" and paint one thick layer of paint to what ever model he was making the tutorial for.

where is my tzeentchkin?

Some good points there man thanks. So if I were to change that tac squad with the grav guns, shall I leave it as bolters with a sgt with a chainsword/bolt pistol? I might replace the regular bolter vet with a combi- weapon vet for the extra attack.

>Khorne working with slaanesh

I've told him they're not competitive but he keeps ignoring any evidence towards it. I'm almost 99% sure he's gonna get the fuck stumped out of him and he'll drop the army in a couple of games, if he ever starts one.

Flying on a disc above the actual fighting

>people in Veeky Forums exagerate or outright lie/don't play the game and invent horror stories to be interesting

I litteraly never had a single problem in all my hames of 40k or TTRPG. Just find some bros and you can have the time of your life.

Have fun user, make good memories and friends.

>The models I've lost
>the paints I've mixed
>won't stop hurting

ive been exposed that i haven't beaten the game and just got to Africa

Yeah, definately not for everyone. I've got a friend who'd probably kill himself if he didn't have something challenging to do at work.

I told him once I didn't have any real ambitions beyond sitting at home, painting minis, reading books etc and he genuinely couldn't comprehend it and acted like I'd just said I enjoyed self-harming or something. I had to quickly make some shit up.

These guys

C'Tan would be a great addition. Maybe have the Void Dragon escape Mars and summon his army he's been hiding in the galactic core for millions of years or some shit. Beings of pure energy with elemental like features

1. Squats
2. a Squats sub-faction
3. SPACE PIRATES WITH LAS-MUSKETS AND CANNONS

>dat marine on the floor

I've seen enough hentai to know where that's going.

dude people exaggerate everything and blow it way out of proportion everywhere for those delicious (you)'s

welcome to the internet

Oh I've no ambitions, dreams ro long term plans, but I need a external purpose to exists, If I wasn't raised a cynic I suspect I'd gone religious.

Problem?

>happens all the time in the lore

You don't understand. My last group was living the meme. Like, there was an eldar play who just BITCHED about everything. Everyone was just passive aggressive and shit.

Like I said above, I have. This was almost an entirely new experience for me.

>*dips entire model in a pot of nuln oil*

>in the new lore

fucking hacks writting dont even know their own lore.

I know, hence my greentext first, ya silly.