/srg/ - Shadowrun General

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I'm a little confused as to what all I have to pay for to Channel a Great Form Spirit... how many initiations must I have? How many rituals must I buy to make this work? Really just want to be able to channel a greatform possession plant spirit for Regen.

Second question. Just granted a heavily ill-gotten 300k nuyen and I'm way paranoid. What do I buy?

A super paranoid summoner? A nicely secure, out-of-the-way hideout in the wilderness. Plenty of mana to do your thing, not many people to see you do it.

I have a past connection to a government, but that government's not around anymore. General Keiji Saito was ousted 6 years ago. Ares and Mothers of Metahumanity were involved but details are fuckall sparse.

Why'd Ares help take him out, /srg/? What happened to the thousands of JIS marines who came with him? Are they being hunted, or just out of a job?

>Are they being hunted, or just out of a job?
Depends, probably. The loyal ones might be still working on behalf of his ideals, and they're probably still an issue in that case. The ones that were just there for a paycheck probably just fucked off for greener pastures.

So my group has been running into the issue of 'why the fuck would anyone play a magician when mysads exist' and we've come up with something to kind of bring things in line. Instead of having access to all of the magics ever, mysads pick one magic skill group to have access to like an aspected magician would, letting most character concepts get along just fine while giving magicians the power of being the only awakened with access to all schools of magic. What do you guys think of the solution?

Start with Food Fight, then run a few short and simple missions (either pre-made or otherwise) to get a feel for the game and your players. Then you launch into your homebrew campaign.

Introduce these things slowly (about one new element per session) and read the book(s).

Reading the books is pretty much essential, but sometimes it doesn't all click until you actually play. Hacking in particular takes a bit of doing to understand, but once you've got it, it starts feeling natural.

In general, because unless you're really good at building mysads or very focused, that 30 karma (assuming a full 6 PP of adept powers) can be pretty well spent on other things and you're going to be very stretched for points.

Plus you can astrally project as a mage and that has all kinds of fun tricks you can pull.

How about sending off a drone with a pair of Force 12 Blast preparations on it and setting them off with little risk to yourself?

This system is trash but I love it, help

Welcome to the club

I wouldn't say it's a trash system, but trying to figure out how everything works is a painful journey.

No, no I'm fairly sure it's a trash system, even discounting how awful the books are laid out and written.

I need opinions. If one party member, against all my warning to not do that, decides to make all his character contacts and even his lifestyle related to the Mafia. And then the first "real" mission I had planned includes pissing the Mafia off in a big way, and probably ruining everything the character has. I will change the plot to accommodate him probably, but how big of a dick move would it be if I didn't change it and just ran with the run, giving the party the option to decide on their own what to do? I kinda feel that putting all your eggs in a single basket is a horrible move in Shadowrun, but punishing it too early might just put the player off the setting (and hate me for the most part)

You could do a lot worse. Any d20 system, for example.

The less loyal marines probably ended up like what happens when unemployed former soldiers get dropped by their governments.

There's probably a glut of japanese runners with former military backgrounds in Calfree is all I'm saying.

Oh I agree, but if I've got an awful plate of runny eggs and soggy toast from denny's, I'm not going to be happy about it just because you point at a dog turd sitting outside on the sidewalk.

Go through with it, but give the party some alternate options that piss off the Mafia a bit less. Or for that matter, tempt him over to betraying his contacts with hookers and blow or something, give him a little dilemma.

I would sincerely kill for the devs to just switch to less insane shit. 5e gets especially bad with the way it doubles skill caps instead of just fucking toning down stats to actually represent what they were supposed to.

I don't understand, why doesn't he just wear a mask or something? Or is it more complicated than that?

If you wanted anything better, you shouldn't have gone to denny's.

Second verse: Food fight is for faggots.

I would sincerely consider running Shadowrun with True20 or M&M an improvement over 5e.

I'm considering switching everything to Mini6 for less pain. Or, fuck, Fate.

One, he was warned
Two, you should be a dick, but not a big dick
Three, burning his entire contact list is being a big dick
Four, your primary concern is keeping the players happy, and that includes your Mafeeaboo

That said, the party should be able to mitigate the damage to their rep with the Mafia, and the player should definitely have his own agency in handling that. If he doesn't protect his assets, then he's not playing well and you will need to remind him of it. It's just the nature of the setting.

On the other hand, coverups and retribution are also a big part of the setting, so you can leverage any damage to his Mafia rep by using it to create opportunities to repair that rep, or as a hook to highlight an overarching subplot like, say, an internal power struggle in the local Mafia groups that splits the character's Contacts down the middle. This first run is just part of that.

Honestly it seems like a solution in search of a problem.
The only way to get more power points as a mystic adept is to blow a metamagic on it during initiation or burn through a pile of karma in character creation.
Astral Perception becomes an Adept Power which means you're burning limited PP or depending on a focus, reducing your available other foci vis a vis the whole foci addiction issue.
The inability to project may be a smaller or larger issue depending on the kind of campaign you run, but it removes tactical options either way.
Honestly I'd just run with it. It provides an interesting character dichotomy and gives room for Plot.
The Blades in the Dark hack for Shadowrun works pretty well.

It's less like Denny's "pancake house/coffee shop/fast casual family restaurant" than it is the only place that serves this particular style of food in a semi-popular way. If anyone else managed to get solid rules together and some recognition in the market of gear porn rpgs, I'd drop CGL like a hot turd.

What do you suggest, then? Supernova? Site of Desecration?

If you don't want to do Food Fight (note, the proper Food Fight, not Fast Food Fight 5.0 at the McHugh's), then how about Love Love user's offering?

Consider that the dog turd is inexplicably touted as the gold standard flagship cuisine, and anyone getting into food is told "dude, you should totally start with dog turd" and that any efforts to improve dog turd are viciously hated for not being REAL dog turd and I don't know where I'm going with this, this hobby is awful.

If they are clever, there is very little risk. The actual mission is about kidnapping the granddaughter of one of the Mafia bosses and frame the Kumon'Go. But, if they can make it perfectly, and there was no shadowrunners involved, they are safe. Otherwise it might get dangerous. And I like the idea of his only non-Mafia contact/the fixer offering him a better deal for fucking them over even harder, thanks.

His character has a quality (I think it was signature) and online fame, so he is already a bit of an idiot that might get found out easily. And even so, it's a new-ish player and I don't really want to put his character through hell a few sessions in because the ork decided to go full shotgun rampage and blowing their cover.

Thanks, I'll try to balance out the dickishness.

Queen Euphoria. Or On The Run. THe latter is also for homosexuals, but still less so than Food Fight.

>fucking retarded animu trash
>fucking retarded op copypasta

when are general threads going to get the quest ban like they deserve?

I hope you weren't one of the dumbass "muh deckers" grogs who helped turn 5e into what it is now, because that would be highly ironic.

You people consider this a gearporn RPG? A big portion of the problems I have with it are all the awful rules, choices, and inaccuracies surrounding it.

Yeah! Let's just make 2000 threads for single questions! Purity now! Purity now!

Up your trolling game.

Could be the Mafia his contact are with and the Mafia targeted in the mission are rival families?

It does gearporn better than it does cyberpunk, what with its wannabe corporate mercs wildly in debt over milspec, high priced cyberware and loaded with million dollar iHack tablets.

Even Lagoon company would be a comparatively poor outfit aside from their boat.

What about CoC?

Why would you run Shadowrun with Corruption of Champions?

I think they probably are. I haven't dealt or read much on the crime families, but would they give a fuck if someone fucked over the other family, or they would be protective about outsiders stepping on their shit?

Call of Cthulhu?

Why wouldn't you?

>general thread cancer defends general thread cancer
People of color me surprised

How's Anarchy like, is it compatible with the other supplements?

Aww, whassamatter? Your latest "orc baby/elf slave/loli succubus wat do?" thread get bumped into 404land by the big mean generals?

It's fucking garbage.

Shadowrun furry futa femdom simulator when

Shit, gonna look up some shadowrun r34 in twenty minutes

>what is SURGE

Why so?

>Shadowrun: Anarchy is a narrative-focused game experience
aka
>Shadowrun: Anarchy is fucking garbage

CGL can't design their way out of a paper bag.

>not running narrative-focused games
>not pretending the system doesn't exist the moment you realize just how much autistic garbage is in it

>being so autistic that you literally cannot read and follow instructions
>being so autistic that you blame the instructions for your failure

Have fun playing your wind gauge simulator. Meanwhile I'll play a shadowrun hack that's been edited by people who can actually edit a pdf, unlike the hacks at Catalyst.

So not Anarchy then.

BTW, have 5e's "instructions" been errataed yet to account for the retardation that are the noise rules or is still technically not allowed to make a phone call in downtown Seattle with a Meta Link?

>and then the autistic trash reveals that he's an Apackofshit World player
:^)

>implying I was defending Anarchy
>implying it's not all the same poorly edited cashgrab garbage

It's not like Shadowrun has ever had a good system anyway, 1e was so badly written that it was unplayable. It's a pity a unique idea for a setting keeps getting plagued by this kind of shit.

>Anarchy
>not written by CGL
Congrats, you're a functional illiterate

>Apackofshit World
>a game
Congrats, you're a subhuman moron.

You seem to have triggered yourself into believing I have anything to do with apocalypse world, assuming that's what you're trying to type like a kid who hasn't outgrown high school yet

What about 2e?

>Apackofshit World fan
>pretends he doesn't like Apackofshit World because he knows how bad it is

If I had to go to a non CGL edition, I think I'd rather 3e, but 2e was probably the gold standard FASA shadowrun. It was also a lot more mohawk focused than the "we wanna operate operations operationally" crowd that CGL is trying to cater to above all would be able to tolerate nowadays.

>>Apackofshit World fan
I literally had to google it. I appreciate that you're retarded enough that you have to create this little story of btfoing an apocalypse world fan in your head because you can't fathom otherwise that someone would find anything bad to say about your perfect system which just so happens to have like 5 contradictory rules for every functional one, and a core book that was apparently edited by someone who is functionally innumerate.

>I think I'd rather 3e
Why would you choose that over 2e? Is it the higher complexity?

You always can. That's not it's 'wireless functionality' unless you've got a book where it says [i]Wireless[/i]: Can use Send Message.

Now if you were for some reason having to roll for Send Message (I guess you took Computer Illiterate and need to use somebody else's link or the like) then the noise may kill your attempt, but you had to build yourself for that.

>lying about his endless love for Apackofshit World
Why deny it? Everyone can already tell you're retarded, just go with it.

Some fluff additions that I prefer over 2e. Mechanically I could take either system easily.

Except I'd ban decking, that's always been complete, unsalvageable garbage in every edition and I was glad 4th killed the decker.

You should probably just kill yourself.

>Sending a commlink message isn't wireless functionality
The devs are retarded are they?

>Apackofshit World fan
>Advising anyone else to kill themselves
:^)

>animu trash

Thats Jolly Jack, user.

Lets just say we're lucky she isn't swelling to an enormous bulbous size or turning into a giantess, considering the artist.

also

>complaining about Animu trash in a cyberpunk thread

>associating animu trash with cyberpunk
kys

Funny enough I *just* started collecting art for a Razor girl.

In the sense that the rules are talking about no. Because that wireless functionality is instead something additional you get when you have it well connected to the Matrix.

It makes sense, it's just worded in about the worst possible way that doesn't involve actively hiding the rules in a puzzle format. A much better wording would be calling it Additional Functionality and labeling it with Additional, because a simple read with that phrasing makes it more obvious that this is an extra and not the (somewhat arguable in the case of some items) point of the thing.

Also, having an explicit handshake range ala the Signal attribute of 4e or just giving some number as the range and perhaps later on putting in something to boost it would be much better for the next paragraph, but that's my opinion.

Animu and Cyberpunk go hand in hand, user, considering Cyberpunk is heavily inspired by the rust belt fears of Asian cultural and economic take over, and many of the Seminole works of the genre were 80's anime.

They should have just called Wireless "This is the Bonus You Get for Allowing this Particular Piece of Gear to be in Danger of being Fucked with by Deckers."

I get what they were going for, but man did it come out stupid and half-baked.

fuck off, retard

Are you OK user? Do you want to talk?

Show me on the doll where she touched you

Literally why are you here?

fuck off, retard

That's not an 80s anime you silly willy.

>trying to argue chinese cartoons with a newfag who came here because Facebook told him this is where the cool kids hang out
I admire your level head and dedication, user, but it's a losing battle and you know it. Don't make yourself into Sisyphus.

Shh baby it's gonna be ok

And what's worse is that they started it with (at least layout wise) with the perfect term to keep throughout. Wireless bonus. Just replace every bit of wireless functionality with wirless bonus, and it gets everything across without leading to the idea that your metalink shuts down when a new cat vid shows up.

Add in a good defender (of the commlink or deck variety) and you've even got some safety for it. Hrm. Perhaps there should be a mod that lets you cannibalize some Matrix attributes for extra DR for the purposes of what you can connect to the device.

I think that's actually a good idea.

>You always can. That's not it's 'wireless functionality' unless you've got a book where it says [i]Wireless[/i]: Can use Send Message.
You still need to be connected to the matrix to use matrix actions.

shh bby is ok

Report, hide and ignore, guys.

And post Shadowrun canon waifus

>anime fans