Since Guilliman has essentially allied with the Ynnari in the battle against Chaos, can we assume that Mr Statesman will learn about and extend an olive branch to the Craftworld Eldar and Tau to join forces?
I'm imagining at the very least diplomatic missions to create a ceasefire to not have these dangers on their mind as the 13th Black Crusade is going on.
Robert Flores
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Kinda Depends how many Imperials show up. They're basically a barbarian horde unless they completely tidal wave the tau down and crack out the Titans.
Hell, space marines aren't even all that scary to tau- Not because they aren't impressive, because a highly mobile force with better than Bolter small arms spam and plenty of heavy weaponry is basically the least optimal thing for a company to go up against.
Recall that one of the earliest marine/tau interactions involved an entire company drop podding into a city then getting counter-ambushed and killed to a man by plasma rifle spamming crisis suits.
Jason Morales
20 minutes till more GW announcements.
Henry Hill
I hope when Guilliman switches off the Big E's life support, he reincarnates as the Empress.
40k needs more equal gender representation.
Imperatrix > Imperator
Brody Hughes
>Blood Angels vs Storm Boyz
Nicholas Johnson
Third for Cypher
Aaron Perry
This is a Marines Malevolent Thread now
Jaxson Gutierrez
Would you a God Emperor Veeky Forums?
Jacob Walker
BROTHER
Brandon Cook
Guilliman had a instinctive distrust of xenos even during the Great Crusade. It's suggest it's genetically wired into them.
He might arrange a ceasefire, but he's not going to form the United Federation of Planets: 40k Edition.
Lincoln Morgan
Codex: Catachan when?
Jacob Cruz
Cypher is a casual scrub I could take him with my balls tied behind my back.
Carson Murphy
Not even close bb
Robert Jenkins
I'd hit it so hard the Astronomican would flicker.
Kevin Ross
>Getting bitchslapped by a Salamander
Nathan Kelly
>Blood Angels vs Ork Boyz
Orks are not npc race...
Lincoln Brown
Is the book good? How are the Black Templars depicted?
Brandon Reed
Never, they're the next Guard planet to be squatted.
Gonna get nommed by an Ork-piloted spehs-whale
Charles Gomez
I agree with you but who knows. Desperate times ey.
He literally doesn't mind if a Ynnari Eldar is traipsing around the innermost sanctum of his homeworld.
Alexander Scott
he may attempt to bring more Eldar into he fight, if/when Yraine reunites with him but until then I doubt he's going to go straight into alliance mode I enjoyed the first one, despite several anons saying they are terrible, perhaps because it has like 4 different protagonists including the BT chaplain, giving their own POV for a single story. it characterizes several magi of different ranks and includes a sentient machine straight from Ghost in the Shell id' give it a 7-8/10
Connor Robinson
Weren't* a npc race
Levi Gonzalez
The Secutor is a Tech-Priest, not a Skitarius though.
The actual Skitarii in that book just spend the entire time being shut-down by various kinds of daemonic malware and sentient AI.
Christopher Russell
While the thread is young, how would you go about making an army out of pic related? Something akin to them are confirmed for 40k after all. Which army could they best count-as, how would you fluff them to allies etc.
Jacob Allen
oh and about the BT it focuses mostly on their rituals I'd assume the second book will expand more into them in the first book itself they are typical SM autism
William Mitchell
>How are the Black Templars depicted?
They get rekt repeatedly. Only the Cadians come out of those novels with their dignity intact.
unlike their planet
Liam Fisher
Alright, cool. Thanks for the overview.
Christopher Mitchell
I always get really confused between the cult mechanicus and the skitarii so I apologize
Charles Bailey
He's nothing if not pragmatic. In the same paragraph though, he's already expecting them to betray him when it suits them.
Levi Baker
> Guilliman is Sigmar > Returned warrior king, uniting his sons at the end of the world > Imperium is Empire/Bretonnia
> Eldar are Elves > Cultural schisms boil over and result in a unified force behind someone previously thought impossible > Tau are Lizardmen > Improbably third faction added in to the goodies
> Chaos are Chaos > Orks are Orcs and will ally with Tyranids to make a meme NPC empire > Necrons are Death and the Silent King will be Nagash
AoS is repeating itself.
Jason Thompson
As disposable abhumans.
Their special rule could be that their allies could fire into combats their involved in, with any wounds being split equally between them and the enemy unit.
Wargear would a ccw. You could upgrade three of them with laspistols for every twenty you fielded. Also bomb collars, so the unit gets removed from play entirely the first time it fails a morale check.
Isaiah Parker
I don't know about your pic related. But I imagine my pic related would be an awesome renegades guard army.
>Cygors chucking tank husks countsas basilisks!
Asher Howard
The Felinids are like Cat from Red Dwarf, not literally cat people, or anime cat girls.
Hunter Robinson
>Orks are Orcs That's a bit of a stretch don't ya think?
Gabriel Rogers
>Silent King will be Nagash Suddenly I'm okay with Age of Emperor.
Robert Gomez
Not that user, but the book's decent, despite them getting a shit ton of Guard, Marines, Eldar and other random fucks in my Mechanicus book, and that stupid Disney moment where the Templar scrub is getting his ass kicked by the Secutor in a friendly duel, then magically beats him with no explanation given and tells him to fight with more "heart". He then goes all Luke Skywalker, turns off all his guidance in a big fight near the end, and owns this giant ice-monster thing. The Mechanicus characters are all pretty great, too, and one of them literally dies dropping logic burns on an Eldar.
Black Templars do their usual thing, get a bit fried up and occasionally run inot trouble, then have a cool last stand, even if it is defending a damn Eldar Farseer. If there was a third of the non-Mech characters in the book, it would have been a lot better, but still worth a read. Also, Kotov is great. He builds an entire Leviathan into an Age of Sail boat for Explorator Fleet fucking about.
Xavier Phillips
> Orks are Orcs and will ally with Tyranids to make a meme NPC empire > a meme NPC empire is everything ok?
Jack Baker
Marines Malevolent deserve everything bad that happens to them.
Gabriel Walker
I don't think this is the game for you. But I'll fund your kickstarter for some sort of cartoony medieval animal wargame.
Grayson Collins
>The Felinids are like Cat from Red Dwarf
Slaanesh cultists?
Parker Flores
How much would you discount orks by to make them comparable to newer codexies?
Lincoln Fisher
I guess we weren't Warhammer 40K But... Warhammer 50K
Jeremiah Morales
>Hot-shot lasguns have giant fuck-off scopes >18" range
Well done GW, well done.
Brayden Butler
The imperium repeatedly gets BTFO by the Tau, literally the only advantages they have are warp travel and sheer numbers. That massive crusade meant to wipe them out? Stalled and defeated on a single planet. Khan got cucked out of killing shadowsun, the raven guard chapter master died, and 3/4 of the assassins failed. Hell, there was one part where the imperial guard were charging headlong through a dust storm and the Tau were using them as target practice because they outclassed them that badly.
Kevin Miller
OK, thanks
Gabriel Wood
Has it been explained how/why these girls have survived into the 41st millennium? I thought they were wiped out.
Just a straight retconn?
Lincoln Morris
>literally the only advantages they have are warp travel
That and stealth tech the Tau could only dream of.
Nolan Ward
you setting the 0 to be 8,000 BC? that's stupid
Christian Bell
when a Chaos Sorcerer lord calls you borderline heretical and accepts renegades from their chapter into his warband you know you are fucked
Oliver Wood
20% off all units. Or keep the Orks the same price but reduce the cost of their wargear by 25-50%.
Connor Cook
the order probably went dark and any female blank they found that didn't go straight into the assassins temple went with them
Oliver Butler
i sometimes take 25% extra points with my orks
People actually have more fun that way because it feels more even and my opponents arent just destroying me, which is not fun
I even win some games sometimes
William Hernandez
>the imperial guard were charging headlong through a dust storm and the Tau were using them as target practice
VALIANT GUARDSMEN HEROICALLY LAYING DOWN THIER LIVES TO DEPRIVE THE WRETCHED XENO OF IT'S AMMUNITION SUPPLIES!!!
Xavier Kelly
Orcs and ogres (fantasy devourers) allied and proceeded to do jack shit until the final battle. Unless you count Josh Reynolds fan fiction as canon, in which case they conquered everything east of the old world including chaos held Cathay and the chaos dwarfs.
If 40k followed his retarded idea, this would happen with orks and tyranids
Jonathan Thomas
>The psyker is the only one not affected bravo GW
Thomas Reed
Read the book faggot Tau are listed alongside daemons and Ghazgkull as increased threats after the eye expanded
Nicholas Perez
>sending a culexus assassin after non-psykers
Logan Rivera
I changed my mind, I now want to represent Cat's people, loyalist and heretic versions for their religious schism. Their ragtag fleets ply the galaxy seeking for the promise land.
But naa, it was just a dumb thought while I was grinding in MH the other day. The setting has literal space orangutans who make tiny lascannon, making backwards cat people seem believable. Knowing the Imperium, would probably happen to them.
Zachary Rivera
we don't talk about the damocles tauwank
Austin Smith
> Scions can swap their Hotshot Lasguns for a Hellgun or Shotgun at no extra cost
> Hotshot Lasgun: R24" S3/AP3/Rapid Fire > Can be fired as R30" Heavy1/Sniper
> Hellgun: R18" S3/AP5/Assault 3 > Can Overclock for +2S at the expense of firing next turn
>find out there are female Culexus assassins as well as Callidus >synskin is literally just bodypaint
hnnnnnnng
Evan Evans
aunva isnt a psyker
Jackson Cook
You call me a faggot again and I'll expand your cornhole, lad.
Carter Thompson
It lasted over 7 threads without the inevitable autistic shit memes Not a bad effort.
Jace Hughes
Pheromones not psyker powers.
An assassin is an assassin. Culexus are probably the most versatile assassins under the current rules.
Evan Mitchell
I really want to start up a Khornate marine army, though all of the options for doing so feel really scattered.
I can't use the World Eaters Legion stuff with Khorne Daemonkin. I can't used the improvements to Possessed and Warp Talons from Daemonkin alongside the Crimson Slaughter benefits or the new assault on deep-strike formations.
It doesn't help matters that I'd actually like to include a couple squads and units focused on shooting in the list. At this point I'd even look to loyalist books for options.
Jose Reyes
>kindly no kauyon or Montka, if that's your cup of tea go weeb/troll elsewhere. For all intents and purposes it's not the same universe
Logan Rodriguez
If you could select the new main regiment for Guard, which would you choose?
Homemade regiments are fair game, but I think something from the current lore would be best.
Cooper Hill
>sending the guy who can make himself so unnoticed he can hitchhike inside a filled devilfish into the most defended location on the planet to kill the absolute head of state of the enemy
Austin Harris
Who's more powerful in lore, a solitaire or an eversor assassin?
Wyatt Robinson
Mordian
Cameron Wright
> Daemonkin > Improved Possessed and Warp Talons
These units need a whole lot more than fucking Furious Charge to be 'fixed'. Your options are very simple user:
> Khorne Daemonkin Flesh Hounds that you can join units to, and don't have much 'tax' associated. Literally everything else is inferior.
> World Eaters Better everything else. Better characters, insanely better infantry. Forge World units.
> Crimson Slaughter Objectively inferior in everything compared to World Eaters.
I'd say to just play World Eaters and ally in some Gorepacks. Put your Juggerlord there for some ablative Wounds, otherwise pure Chaos. Ally in some Renegades if you want any Scoring potential.
Colton Rogers
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Isaac Mitchell
i dont think they should have a main regiment. the box for guardsmen should be regular planetery defense guardsmen and then they should include a sprue to make various regiments.
Sebastian White
Complete newfag here Think this is something I'd like to star with the formation is 400 points and the lgs apparently runs 500 for its beginner games, so thought id ask what kind of upgrades I should go for to get it up to 500 cheers
Lucas Walker
Harakoni Warhawks
This would allow all IG players to build Cadians, hostile environment Cadians, and non-Elysian drop troops in any mix they want. Combine all 3 and you get the Harakoni Warhawks.
Hunter Kelly
I bring my Grey Knights, do you want to use the daemonic adversaries rules?
Levi Baker
Not psykers dude, insect like pheromones. It's how shadowsue was able to survive the callidius assassination attempt And yet he was the only assassin who was successful, and the only one who didn't struggle at all. I'm surpassed he wasn't reassigned to go after farsight and shadowsue >getting this mad at being called faggot on an anonymous Mongolian cave painting forum Welcome to Veeky Forums, newfriend
Wyatt Carter
>Orks are Orcs and will ally with Tyranids to make a meme NPC empire I would left them in one group called as "destruction forces" or something like that but not allied at all
Oliver Gray
My Brothers!
Asher Hall
1v1 = Solitaire Vs each other = Solitaire Vs army = Eversor Last stand = Eversor
Samuel Fisher
Who are you quoting?
Ian Barnes
Vostroyans.
Samuel Garcia
I said Improved, not fixed. The main reason I'd even want them is so that I could have some Daemons with actual armor.
I'll probably just end up going for World Eaters then, I suppose. My other alternative was running them as Deathwatch or something for the wargear options.
Oliver Ward
>hot-shot lasguns have giant fuck-off scopes >they have no stock
Owen Reyes
>They killed a chapter master and thought they'd killed the 'king' of the spehs muhreens. >implying "Warrior King" isn't an appropriate transliteration of what a Chapter Master is given their level of autonomy within the larger Imperium, and their role over the chapter and in many cases large swaths of imperial territory or forces
So are you just an idiot about comparative ranks in history or are you ignorant of the lore itself?
Henry Wood
it's a laser gun, what would the stock even do?
Brandon Stewart
>actively making your enemy better so you can get preferred enemy on them
wait, if i'm a daemon player do i get to use these buffs?
Cooper Jackson
look down the scope and aim better?
Justin Morgan
Orks! Orks! Orks! Orks! Orks! Orks! Orks!
Cameron Torres
It's 7th Edition, just use Allies. For the cost of a Herald and min-Bloodletters, you can access all the Daemons you like. Alternatively, min Bikers and then spam Flesh Hounds through the Gorepack.
Actual CSM are so, so much better under Legion rules that it is a non-contest.
Wyatt Green
Orks Orks Orks Orks Orks Orks Orks
Easton Allen
Culexus can hide from the Tau sensors, shitty eyesight and they can't even "feel" it is there.
Culexus are the perfect counter to the tech reliant and warp ignorant Tau.
Why the Imperium hasn't turbo fuck Tau with Culexus is just due to plot armour. Like everything beyond 3rd edition Tau fluff.
Gavin Williams
That... that's not who I think it is is it? How did he get so fat?
Carson Nelson
Orks Orks Orks Orks Orks Orks Orks !!
Ian Perry
Ok, quick question about Angels of Death special army lists: since their bonuses are not Chapter Tactics do they apply to all models in the army or still just those with Chapter Tactics ? Anvil Strike Force straight up buffs vehicles, Scarblade Strike Force makes vehicles faster, and so on. The Imperial Fists have two rules, one that specifies that only units with the special rule from their Chapter tactics get the bonus while the other just says that units in the army get +1 to blowing up buildings. What about the +1S for flamers the Salamanders get, is it Chapter Tactics units-only or is it like Vulkan's special ability that buffs even vehicle mounted meltas ?
Nolan Roberts
>How did he get so fat?
He's 64, user.
Isaac Parker
>Kindly no End Times or Age of Sigmar. If that is your cup of tea, please go elsewhere, especially if you're just going to shill or troll. For all intents and purposes, it's not the same universe.
Warhammer fantasy babbys who think their feelings affect what's canon and what isn't. They think they can just decide that 8th edition and endtimes didn't happen and everyone else is expected to agree on that. Now with the nu-fluff, this hilarious behavior is starting to pop up here