Horus Heresy

>seems reasonable

Able to wound rapiers on a 3+ with no armour saves and to lower their toughness, all the while outside of phosphex range isn't bad. You can also use them against automatas with 3+ save or less.

Doesn't it wound them on a 2+?
But still, Rapiers outrange servitors and ignore their armour saves, so watch out

>Doesn't it wound them on a 2+?

That is true, I thought they had 3+ Poison, not Fleshbane.

>Rapiers outrange servitors

With regular shells, yes. Techmarine's can take Rhinos, though.

But Servitors lack Relentless, don't they?

You don't need Relentless to take cover inside a Rhino and shoot from the top hatch. And since you got a techmarine in there, he can repair the Rhino if it takes damage.

>use TS Bens Kingsley to flank 3 Rhinos with Radmissiles in the enemy back field

why does this feel evil somehow

>TS Bens Kingsley
I'll never not find this funny. Why is FW so obvious?

More options for mechanicus players if you're brave and got a few mech bits lying around.

How tough are primarchs in the fluff? Any of them taken D hits?

Fulgrim took a D.

Magnus and Sangy have taken flat out direct hits from titans.

How's your angron friend?

You can't though. That's ahriman. Kingsley let you pick a single thing for outflank

Why didn't the Imperium rely more on Legio Cybernetica robotics instead of heresy-prone space marine?

nah bro, that's GW's gift to abhuman helot players. The Squats return!

Simple, marines may heresy, but all it takes for cybernetica to go to shit is a magos tinkering and forgetting a semicolon.

>implying they wouldn't geth the shit out of their creators

First fist model painted for my shattered legion list. I thought this yellow was too dark but it's really grown on me.

Needs a lot of wear and tear now because the fists of my list are too-old-for-this-shit remnants of the original legion.

Plugging away on these.
I haven't assembled a large batch in a few weeks, I missed it.

God damn it. Sorry for the ninety degrees of failure. I'm at work.

Don't worry, it's nice to see the Equatorial player base growing.

It looks really good but kinda hurts my neck
What did you do for the green?

looking good user
it could use some glazing and shading on the big panels, but good chipping could go in the place of that pretty well

I heard tell that these big guys and I think Cortus dreads can take on knights and win.
How? I mean, disregarding guns, knights come pre equipped with the Big D (SHOWTIME) on a capable chassis.
Are you that guy that put a dwarf head on a space wolf?

Basecoat of P3 menoth White base, and then a thin layer of 2/1 yellow wash/green wash to tint it into an unnatural greenish glow.

Any sort of off-white works for the basecoat, I just learned the trick when I used to play WarmaHordes.

leviathans and cortuses can both hit at i5 with their armourbane weapons, so its reasonable that they could cripple a knight, and even if they swing at their regular i4, theres still a chance that you mutually kill each other

No, I am nowhere near that good of painter.
Might do it in the future, but I am already burning out on my army.

Thanks! I am gonna try that on my Plasma guns.

It's a nifty effect for an even glow, but it doesn't really do depth well.

My old recipe for Plasma guns.
White, green wash, yellow/green drybrush
Ceramite white, Waywatcher, Moot

Or the 'Tip of the day' for Warpflame.

I had thought you would lean towards blue for plasma, green for warpfire/gauss?

I use green for grav and paragon blades, and blue for plasma and power weapons.

Depends on what you like the look of.
With a Blue/Grey army like the wolves, (eventually) on snow bases I wanted a non cool color to make them pop.
But if I was a Salamanders player I would pick red, UM pick Yellow, something near opposite on the color wheel from the main color of the army.

This.

Though I main scars, so any strong color works.

Anyone have any good ideas for a suitably hueg thunder hammer for the iron father model?

grab a deathwatch one, fill in the sides of the head and shave off the tiny =][= on the center of the head peice. works great.

The new AoS dwarf stuff looks pretty promising.

That is really weird to say without any sarcasm.

or say it is a gift from Malchedor he received along with supplies before the Shattered Legion Wars

File is probably better, though

>tfw want to use that awesome DW storm shield
>tfw way too much shit to fill or scrape off

fill it in and get some etched brass on there my dude

I like that story idea. Malcs got word of this praetor doing stuff off in the outer war and just sent him a rhino full of goodies.

"Sorry I can't spare more. Here's a sweetass hammer. Cheers."

two words.
>power
>sander

with gloves of course

all you really need to fill in is the lettering, the rest of it is pretty reasonable to have

the big fuckoff deathwatch icon not so much, but that's an easyish chop job

holy shit lel
i completely missed the gigantic fucking ][ right in the middle

I haven't been paying attention for a while, how close are we to the Invasion of Terra?

We're not

Expect BL to do it in 2025, and FW in 2050

At the rate things were going, I expected it to happen in two or three more years.
Was I mistaken, or did something happen?

Gotta milk that cash cow user.

It's going to be a while, only if the severe delays with the rulebook continue. Inferno was too late for too little, pretty much every thread has some new complaint about an error or mistake in the book. And that was months late.
IF forgeworld foxes itself (hires a proof reader) and doesn't needlessly delay the next few books, then yes, we are 2-3 years away.
But the best, most realistic time line is closer to five years.
If you're waiting on collecting until then, I would suggest you just give in and start buying models now.

We are actually going backwards. Last book was about Prospero, which hapenned before Istavan.

Next book covers events from all over the timeline, from Signus at the beginning to the Passage of the Angel of Death at the very end.

Shamelessly stolen from someone on facebook.
The armor looks baller, the head looks sadly uninspired.

Would the new Dorfs fit more into Militia or AdMech?

Militia

Hello, folks. I'm trying to make a 2000pts SoH army, preferrably without Drop Pods or Dreadclaws. Well, pic is what I made so far. What can I improve on this?

Asked about this last thread, but struggling to find where this is stated in the rules: Can you field a Questoris Knight as a Lord of War for the Legions? It doesn't look like it, but I've heard conflicting statements. If so, where does it say this in the rules?

Leviathans get both a three-shot melta lascannon and also s10 ap1 armourbane at i5 on the charge, which, barring a Knight Lancer, is gonna pen almost every hit with no saves. Cortus can do the same trick by overcharging to i5, and are half the price, or a third for an overequipped leviathan in a pod (435 for three each with a chainfist). Some user tells of a local champion somewhere who runs Iron Hands and beat the reigning Questoris list through the power of nine regenerating Cortus dreads with Ferrus

read the most recent rules for LoW in the Age of Darkness Legions, and stop asking the question. This does exclude the Porphyrion and Atrapos, which are questoris and mechanicum only

Great, thanks buddeh.

What legion plays the most like a horde army (Coming from 40k with Nids/Orks experience)? I have asked around a few forums and can't get a single straight forward answer. I have the feeling it might be Iron Warrior, but I may be wrong?

Ultramarines or Word Bearers.

World eaters or death guard

Sons of horus or space wolves

Mechanicum. You can have big blobs of shitty infantry (who can actually be fearless, no synapse malarkey required) backed up by big stompy monsters.

If you want an actual legion, probably has it right.

>What legion plays the most like a horde army
>answers : Mechanicum
>legion
>l-e-g-i-o-n

Dude ... basic reading comprehension. Do you has it ?

Says the guy that was unable to read an entire, two-line post.

And I do think the mech are the closest fit to orks and nids if you build the army a certain way, so it's worth bringing them to user's attention. Sorry I triggered you with my left-field suggestion.

Alright poorfag counts-as time.
Caestus, is the yiff sky-boat an acceptable substitute?
Also, shields thing, i'm using the DW ones amongst others and given they claimed the I stands for imperial (new DW fluff is hurr durr but meh) but as a generic Imperial symbol, is there any thing wrong with it?
The other options seem to be the raptor&lightning or the aquila, but the former is tricky to get hold of and the other is going to trigger the autists.

Mechanicum or World Eaters look the coolest and sound the coolest from the rules. I might even try both.

>read the most recent rules for LoW in the Age of Darkness Legions, and stop asking the question. This does exclude the Porphyrion and Atrapos, which are questoris and mechanicum only

How so? The LoW rules say you can field any 1-2 machines from the questoris knight list for War Machine Detachment. Both the Atrapos and Porphyrion can be a part of the questoris knight list. Seems to work.

>Caestus, is the yiff sky-boat an acceptable substitute?
Honestly, I'm not sure a bunch of internet strangers can answer that. It's going to come down to what people are your local club/store are like, so the best thing might be to just go there and talk to people. Sorry that that isn't very helpful.

For me, the deathwatch shields seem more specifically "working for malcador" than "generic imperial" in the 30k setting. Kind of depends how you're fluffing the army, maybe.

I'm pretty sure the porphyrion and atrapos have a mechanicum-only stipulation in their rules, but im phoneposting so cant check. Go check the FW pdfs for them if you care

They each say they can be part of either mechanicum taghmata or questoris knights.

Nothing I can find says they cannot be part of a War Machine Detachment LoW choice. The only requirement is that they're part of the Questoris Knight list.

I suppose you could make the argument that their entry doesn't specifically say they can be a LoW in a legion list, but NONE of the knights in the Questoris list say that.

Was there no Scout period (not talking about Recon equivalent) for Marines before becoming a full-pledged Marine in 30k?

There was not. You went through years and years of trials, learning, and training, and once you passed you went straight to power armor.

Recon were veteran specialists like 40k's Wolf Scouts.

How's this looking for an Ironwing list? Not looking to WAAC it up but would like to be able to hold my own. The Veterans I know aren't overly competitive, but I really want to play up the "Arthurian Knights" vibe for my Dangels.

Apart from in the midst of the Heresy, where new recruits were being thrown into the grinder with little to no training.

Except for all that training they got during the years it took to slowly change them from baseline human to full blown astartes.

The only time that fresh recruits were thrown straight into the shit was the Raven Guard Raptors. And that ended... badly.

Those parts are straight copy-pastas from the experimental rules, to clarify how you could field them. Wouldn't suprise me if FW was to lazy or stupid to remove or change it.

For sure, but they didn't have the training expected of an in-combat astartes at that time what with the war effort taking up so many resources. Let me see if I can dig out the passage from the FW books...

You're gonna need to do at least a little conversion on the stormwolf otherwise your opponents just gonna think you're a lazy piece of shit

They copy-pasted it from the webpage rules for the Atrapos, but didn't for the Porphyrion, which is weird, because as written in Inferno, the Porphyrion doesn't have anything in its rules saying that it CAN be taken in a Questoris list, but also has the Household Rank rule when it IS taken in a Questoris army.

Seems pretty solid, a few thoughts:
8 power weapons on the veterans is a lot, and maybe overdoing it. It's often worth having a few unupgraded chumps in melee squads to die first. Maybe drop them to 5, and use the spare points to keep the acid heavy bolters on the rhinos at 2000 points. Oh, and make sure there's 1-2 power axes in the squad, even though you don't get the DA sword bonus with them. The praetor may be tied up in a challenge and unable to provide his AP2.

Don't see the advantage of machine spirits on the laser vindicators - a machine spirit doesn't allow it to fire more shots if it moves AIUI. If you want a speedy tank destroyer to hit side armour, go for a sicaran venator.

No bolters on the 1st tactical squad seems a shame, given the +1 to wound thing.

Not sure what the damocles is for when you have nothing obviously going in reserve.

Some form of anti-air is probably a good idea once you go up to 2000 points.

FW finally got back to me about my request for the paint job from the Domitar
If anyone else would like it I'll put it up

Okay rough Custodes list, 2000 points, every unit is three dudes.

Valdor

2 basic spear guy units

1 Elite spear guy unit with paragon spears, joined by Valdor

1 terminator unit

Contemptor spear

Jetbikes

Caladius

Contemptor Sword.

Thoughts?

So how viable is a full SoS army looking? At least in terms of not losing every single game ever.

Not particularly viable, they are a one trick pony and not very flexible which is probably why they get thrown in with custodes. It's unlikely they'd even win against TS since the cult arcana is not affected at all.

How about Custodes stand alone?

They have some nasty beatsticks, but the record low model count and only really the bikes being fast seems like real issues for actually securing victory.

May as well be an army of terminators and they are going to get too expensive to be viable if you want some range. With chessy geared up characters and some min max units they could be decent.

The Stormfag is a fair bit smaller than the Caestus, but I don't think there's much of an effect.

My suggestion, based on what I once thought about doing (though for 40k):
>get stormraven wings and put them on the stormwolf engines, use the missile pods on them as the caestus missile pods
>use the gun boat front with the assault boat top. Replace the frost cannon muzzle with some melta stuff, maybe a pair of helbrute multi-melta muzles, to make a big melta cannon thing
>paint the cockpit canopy over and attach some vies slit piece (maybe from a BA predator) on it as the actual view port, gives it the proper armoured look
>remove wolf iconography, if you're not using it for yiffs