Grognards eternally BTFO Edition >Space marines are Ork Tier! >It's impossible for there to be female space marines! >Christ-Chan is a Nazi I need my safespace! -an autist
>previous thread Time for 8th edition and space marine fags are furious about it
>Hello grognard my old friend, I've come to laugh at you again, because the 40k rules changing, and is making it worth playing, but not for you cause your stuck living in the past, and that won't last, within the age of emprah youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4→ → → → → → #
>all these newfags getting triggered that new generals are being created at auto sage instead of when the thread falls off page 11 >they didn't know generals used to go up as soon as the old one auto-saged >they didn't know we used to not even have generals
Nathaniel Fisher
You also made a thread without looking to see if another was made.
Luke Peterson
Eldar have no place to go but down in 8th.
Mason Thompson
That's what people said during 6th edition. What makes you think they won't just get yet another buff and set the bar yet again for the 3rd edition in a row, for a total of 7 editions out of 8?
Robert Hernandez
So much of this game has had rules that favor static gunlines; The removal of sweeping assaults, the removal of charging from outflank. As well as shooting during your enemy's turn. If 8th actually changes things to be a bit like before, then eldar will be tar pittable again until the elite units arrive for clean up.
Just hoping 8th changes things up.
Ethan Adams
Formations might have a punishing tax.
Carson Lewis
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Josiah Perez
We need female space marines! Also, they should have higher toughness than male ones for the same point cost.
Brandon Davis
It's only fair after they were excluded for so long.
Caleb Roberts
Give me male, bara daemonettes and Sisters then
Josiah Morris
Yeah, not to mention that females are naturally tougher than males.
Christopher Myers
Eldar CAD is the strongest build.
Brody Smith
This.
Ryan Wilson
Anons, what do you think GW means by rewarding thematic armies?
Owen Hall
Something like maybe slightly reduced point costs for army compositions that make sense or special rules? That's all I can really think of. Hopefully something good for my Thousand Sons
William Stewart
They mean more decurions
Elijah Watson
Fluffly Triptide and Wraithknight armies
Henry Rivera
40k version of the Allegiance system from Age of Sigmar.
Samuel Mitchell
>Let me head design in the next codex >I only need 3 days to reinterpret armies anyway
Zachary Long
Formations cost points in AoS, it's likely that they will go back to costing points to field in 40k too.
Easton Edwards
Eldar don't use formations in tourney play. Their formation bonuses are meh. Basic CAD with scatbikes and WK is all you ever see. It's marines that are cramming three different fucking formations in one list.
Tyler Hughes
It goes without saying that female space marines will master martial arts faster than their male counterparts.
Jacob Thomas
These have been some of the worst threads I've ever seen, at least cheetah user was on topic.
Adrian Peterson
>grognard salt
Dylan Williams
I'd be down for this. It would make in-world sense that at least some small percentage would appear that way, and give Slaaneshi daemons some more variety.
Jason Collins
You know what I actually miss more than anything for my Orkz is shoots Boyz. So damn expensive now, it was fun to bring shoots blobs and blow units off the table
Isaiah Fisher
Everyone gets 3+invuln.
Brayden Stewart
Troops good again?
Logan Green
I don't even play 40k and I know female space marines are a retarded idea. Aren't they supposed to be clones of the emperor?
The shit gets shitter.
Dylan Phillips
What did they change, I haven't played orks since fifth. Was it big shootas which roll to determine how many times they shoot? Did they get rid of warp guns? I keenly felt ork dakka supremacy, especially with the end of death beetles.
Gabriel Brooks
There are still forgotten chapters floating through space in hibernation. It'll be retconned those space marines will be all female legions.
Aaron Torres
Good list?
Lincoln Thomas
>deathguard models soon
Kevin Brooks
>It'll be retconned those space marines will be all female legions. Excpet II and XI legions became part of XIII, sorry tumblr
Jackson King
Where the fuck did you get the idea of them beeing clones?
There are no real reasons for there beeing no female space marines other than the fact that in Rogue Trader there weren't any.
Lucas Myers
I'd like to see it painted.
Gavin Miller
But they are clones of their primarch's. Says so in the HH series.
We'll get female marines when we get a female primarch. Never.
Nathaniel Howard
Well, no they are not clones. They are strong regular humans that get implants and hormone treatments.
Also is the HH series really cannon?
Hudson Harris
Why do clones of the primarch have to be male?
Liquid Snake wasn't exactly like Big Boss even though he was a clone.
X-23 is a female even though she's cloned from Wolverine.
There is unironically no real reason for there not to be female spess mehreens, and any excuse GW gives is retarded. They should have just said that the process used to make Space Marines simply shat out huge, bulky, hyper-masculine people, and some space marines might be women and you just don't know cause they're so overly-muscled and covered in armor.
Connor Sanders
>There are no real reasons Except fluff, also there is no purpose for female space marines
Xavier Cooper
>Why do clones of the primarch have to be male? Because primarch's geneseed works only with the same gender. >Liquid Snake wasn't exactly like Big Boss even though he was a clone. >X-23 is a female even though she's cloned from Wolverine. So what?
Kayden Parker
Cloning of the opposite sex is possible for male to female, since men have an X chromosome.
Wyatt Hall
Why does it only work with the same gender?
Also they are not clones.
What fluff reason? And their purpose would be the same as male space marines.
Carter Bailey
>Why does it only work with the same gender? Because it's the part of their fluff >And their purpose would be the same as male space marines. So no particular reason just to push equality.
Benjamin Flores
You keep dodging the fact that they aren't clones.
And equality is a bad thing? It's not that much about it beeing a reason for it more like there is no real reason for there not to be female space marines other than some weird contrivance about it not working like that. I mean there are women in the Astra Militarum so what's the problem?
Levi Brown
>now, why no female space marines? There's an incompatibility according to fluff >it doesn't work like that, even if the realm made by the writers with fantastical and unrealistic aspects and not completely realistic is written as such That's all I see, every thread. Please stop this shitty forced meme.
Brayden Martin
>You keep dodging the fact How exactly I keep dodging the fact what was stated by other user? >And equality is a bad thing? Yeah when it ruins good things (lore) for no real reason.
Andrew Thompson
My mistake then
Would the lore really be ruined by female space marines? Would you be unable to enjoy the stories knowing that some of the marines are women?
It's not like the incompatability reason is a huge chunk of the fluff that is tied to everything, it's a throwaway line explaining the fact that GW can't sculpt women.
Julian Collins
I'm looking for a program, or anything really, that can help me print out tokens in the various sizes of the 40k Bases.
Someone i know has been nagging me to start using Conjuration Psychic powers, and i wouldn't mind giving it a try. So Tokens seem like the easiest way to go.
Cameron Foster
>Would the lore really be ruined by female space marines? Would you be unable to enjoy the stories knowing that some of the marines are women? Yes, because I didn't see any reason for female space, it will turn SM chapters into jokes from ForHonor or any other SJW bullshit.
Gavin Richardson
How new are you, user? There's no reason to arbitrarily make some marines fenale when they've always been dudes for 20+ years.
Liam Cooper
It would be everything space marines are not.
If everyone was clamoring so badly for fem SMs SoB would not be regulated to the new squats while squats are on their way back in.
Colton Barnes
Ignoring the slippery slope, what would it take away from your experience?
>How new are you, user? Been on Veeky Forums since 2007, and on Veeky Forums since 2009 I think. How is that relevant? Well thay were arbitrarily only dudes from the begining, sure I don't think much would change if female marines became a thing but I see no reason not to do it.
Jason Perry
Let me rephrase that, how new are you to non D&D games?
Tyler Ross
>but I see no reason not to do it. Why don't we just nuke the setting while we are at it and make imperial guardsmen with power armor and initiative 5 orks.
Jeremiah Murphy
Only played D&D once and didn't like it.
Jeremiah Mitchell
>Only played >once
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
William Williams
>thread's already ruined by some fag talking about female marines for the millionth time Stop. I just want to have one thread not get derailed and stay on topic. Please. Let us discuss something other than marines for once. I like marines, but lets do something else before inevitable derailment.
William Perez
Considering how fucked up "heroic scale" is, and how bad GW are at female faces it's not like anyone would know if they made them female.
Mason Ramirez
>what would it take away from your experience? Anything what makes SM different from other sci-fi supersoldiers with multigender army structure. So let me ask, why you're so obssessed with the idea of female space marines, does "male only" club in fictional universe hurs your sense of justice?
Blake Bailey
>what would it take away from your experience? Space marines are a male power fantasy. And feminism ruins every thing it touches
Noah Gonzalez
Let's talk about how all sons of the Lion are the most loyal space marines found in the imperium of man.
Julian Sullivan
holy shit savage af but true a lot of the time.
Matthew Bennett
That leap makes no sence. What? Is that really the only thing making the different? That they are all male? It's not about taking away male marines, it's about adding females. You can still have your power fantasy.
Jose Howard
What would a Space Marine with both Lion'el and Vulkan's geneseed and teachings act like?
Gavin Moore
A bro tier EXTREMELY loyal fellow.
Juan Allen
You reek of nu male.
40k is the he-man woman haters club of table top gaming.
None of this shit will never happen.
Oliver Carter
ever happen*
Sorry I am drunk painting and phone posting
Christopher Campbell
Let me rephrase my repharsement. How new are you to 40k?
Or are you a genuine, real deal, troll?
Daniel King
>Is that really the only thing making the different? That they are all male? Yep, it makes them interesting, classical warriors society bound by brotherhood bonds placed in grotesque sci-fi setting. >it's about adding females. For what purpose? Bring in game females in power armor? We already have Sisters of Battle, with their own unique aesthetic and fluff. >You can still have your power fantasy. >look guys I've added some shit on one half of the pie, but you can still eat the second half
Jacob Johnson
Would anyone like me to post some theories on Curze, or songs that suit the 8th Legion? (Night Lords). It has been a while, and new fags may want to know.
Jaxon Morgan
Nigga, Space Marines are martial Monks in Spess, just like how SoB are martial Nuns in Spess. It wouldn't make sense to have them be female.
Tyler Ward
Women cant into battle. They can never be the best of the best.
I've been playing since 4th edition. And I accuallly think that there is no reason not to have female space marines. SoB are dead anyway. Are you unable to enjoy yourself with women around?
Ryder Brown
Pay attention to . That's why SM are male only, because they're based off of monks.
>SoB are dead anyway. Ah, so you're baiting, and have ruined a thread for your incessant posting of a meme that should die.
Dominic Davis
>mfw fa/tg/uys failed to protect their hobby from SJW propaganda
Adam Ward
>SoB are dead anyway. Gee I wonder why.
Joseph Cook
Hey anons, how would you feel if I infiltrated my entire army?
Brayden Cox
because of ugly models and bad rules?
Ethan Martin
What has changed?
I don't see any SJW trash in 40k at all.
Mason Powell
>bad rules I bet you're one of those retards that think SoB are Ork tier and have never actually read their rules. SoB are monobuild, but are most certainly high in the middle.
I'll give you that they have old and ugly models though.
Jackson Martinez
>Are you unable to enjoy yourself with women around? Sort of yes, for the same reason why I play with male-only in football Also, SJW stop evading my question >why you're so obssessed with the idea of female space marines, does "male only" club in fictional universe hurs your sense of justice?
Jason Young
I'll slap markerlights and riptides on your ass, I mean it.
Ayden Morgan
>I don't see any SJW trash in 40k at all. Except 40k new playerbase:
Wyatt Miller
But what does female Space Marines add? How are they improved? Is it solely for the purpose of equality (utterly hilarious that we're striving for equality in the grim darkness of the 41st millennium)?
I just don't see any benefit. So Female SM have a vagina, who gives a flying fuck. SM have always been male and male only, and adding female SM to practically sexless demigods of war just disrupts the lore already established for not justifiable reason other than 'equality'
Jace Perry
Except he prob does not even play the game.
Most likely some AoS shit baby.
Grayson Reyes
But what if I'm playing Orks?
Kayden Powell
No they didn't, you utter mong.
Anthony Hughes
Then you always win.
Orks live to fight and die, die and fight.
Ethan Robinson
Also the new strong wimyn special characters and shiet in Gathering Storm
Matthew Robinson
>No they didn't They were.
Wyatt Taylor
I have always seen Ordo Xenos inquisitors as being the go to for fem inquisitors desu. And hereticus also.
not so much malleus
Ethan Clark
Oh fuck, Farsight help me. Um...I'll take Eldar allies?
Eli Jenkins
Then you should perhaps look into your problem with women.
I looked at the reasons for there not beeing female space marines and found them lacking. They felt like a poor justification rather than any accual reason. With so much other weird and fantastic stuff in the fluff why is this tiny detail such a no no?
Anyway I gotta go now, I'm not going to convince anyone here and you are not going to convince me. And experience has taught me to know when I'm unwanted. I'll leave now.
Josiah Perez
The marines of the XI and II legions were rumoured to have been inducted into the XIII legion, though this has never been proven, it would explain the abnormal size of the legion at the time, having nearly twice as many marines as other legions that weren't the Dark Angels before the Rangdan Xenocides, nor the Word Bearers.
William Flores
I do though. I play orks, black templars, chaos space marines and dark eldar
Angel Sullivan
#52357685 >Templar player >Wanting muh wymens mehrines
good joke.
go farm (You)s elsewhere please
Landon Green
You get Warpflame on EVERYTHING, and enemy has to role two dices on it! He gets +2 FnP if he passes, obviously.