>30k TACTICA & TIPS What to include in a HH list, how to format it, what makes each legion special (crunch), tactics, Tutorials for Heresy-era minis and more pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLp
GW had two presentations today at Adepticon, I take it literally nothing of value happened?
Matthew Turner
FIRST FOR THE XVIIth AND BEST LEGION
Nolan Rodriguez
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Eli Mitchell
Did I do you proud /hhg/?
Nathaniel Anderson
What is the most effective way of combating an SJW infestation of your local store or gaming club?
Cameron White
Tell us user what it's like. Are there Female Space Marines? Talk about how sexist the Imperium of Man is?
Gabriel Harris
How bad are they? We need stories.
Angel Green
Same way rats keep a sinking ship afloat.
Dylan Flores
suicide
Lucas Kelly
Sadness and decay :,(
Cameron Roberts
ADB's Chaos Wank rears its head once again.
Ryder Garcia
What's wrong with ADB?
Isaac Hughes
/pol pls go
Easton Reyes
>mfw no news about Titanicus
Im worried.
Landon Price
I'm building a plastic land rsider phobos from 40k to use with my thousand sons. I've already trimmed off the aquillas and stuff, but whats the standard loadout for this thing? 2 TL lascannons and thats it? Does the tank come with the TL Heavy bolter in the front? Or is it one of the upgrades for a pintle mounted weapon?
Lincoln Jones
Heavily biased toward Chaos and hates the Emperor. Many suspect that he was abused as a child by his dad or stepdad.
Dylan Peterson
The Phobos is armed just like the plastic kit. The Proteus ditches the heavy bolters and assault ramp but you can pay points to put a turret back on to it.
Nathan Robinson
Some user posted an article from ADB himself saying that he was beaten by his father as a child.
Isaac Watson
What's a good base mini to make a character out of?
I've already used the BaC chaplain dude 3 times already, so I think I need to lay off using that model
Nolan Gonzalez
Anyone tried converting Mechanicus automatas from another kits? Any positive results?
Joshua Hall
Daily what are you painting user? These Legionnaires of the XVIII are almost ready for final assembly and transfers
Brayden Long
Ass and titties Frendon, the Salamders take wives and so too shall your army.
Jaxon Turner
You should ally a force of the silent sisters if you catch my drift.
Jonathan Anderson
"The galaxy will know that free men stood against a tyrant, that few stood against many, and before this battle was over, even a god-Emperor can bleed."
Michael Bell
>few stood against many I know you're just trying to force a quote, but the traitors had the numbers advantage in pretty much every case because horus spent a lot of time and effort carefully backstabbing and wrongfooting his enemies
Easton King
Did they? I figured that traitors had less numbers, but were more concentrated in offense because Horus actually planned it out
Christian Martin
Is "Hetaeron" Guard actually named after Macedonian Hetairoi = the Companions?
Brayden Hall
Gotta remember a whole lot of planets went with him, and the traitors were also significantly bumping their recruitment and indoctrination up in the years leading up to it. And then right before the war broke out, horus played his cards to do the most damage he possibly could to the legions that weren't swayed to his side.
So you've got the loyalists outnumbered at istvaan III, the loyalists outnumbered at istvaan V, the loyalists outnumbered in ultramar, the loyalists outnumbered at earth... pretty much every major battle in 30k plays out in a similar fashion. When the sides were just about to even out, Horus did his gambit to try and kill the Emperor and consolidate his forces in the palace before reinforcements could arrive.
Jacob Morales
My Custodes Contemptor conversion. It's probably 2/3rds done. Just needs highlighting and lots of cleaning up, especially glossy patches of wash.
Josiah Young
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Zachary Ross
This. What would it have mattered if the DA, SW and UM fleets have arrived, if the Emperor was slain. Gods dammit Horus, you had one job to do.
Abbadoodoo fleeing was a joke: They could have turned Terra into a charnel house, built thrusters and sent it straight into the sun.
Gavin Robinson
space wolves don't have a fleet left after 'the wolf cull', just wait and see, they will get fucked as they leave Terra and go out to meet the traitor forces. Equally, DA get fukt when they go back to Caliban. UM never would've arrived, they're fucking cowering in their shitty second empire. Scars, BA and Fists got this covered.
Angel Reyes
>mfw the painter made it cry tears of blood because subconsciously he knows how terrible this conversion is
Blake Rogers
>They could have turned Terra into a charnel house Well, the thing is they couldn't. Not beyond what they'd already done. The siege itself was stalling just enough to need a whole "hey here's your emperor's head on a pike" dealie to break it.
That's why all the remaining traitor primarchs up and left when Horus died and they found out more loyalists were on their way to skullfuck them.
>abbadabbadoo >relevant in 30k
David Wood
They are literally called "the Companions", so you tell me.
Alexander Williams
>taking the dareduo >taking perty with a mere two termie squads >taking bare minimum troops like this is 40k No.
Kayden Cruz
>DA get fukt when they go back to Caliban. Except that happens after Terra.
Evan Long
Decide to take a Contemptor for anti-air, get called a BaC baby. Get told to take a Deredeo. Now Deredeo isn't the right choice... I guess I'll just throw a Sicaran in there, I don't care anymore.
Daniel King
Can you guys tell me why the fuck so-called "Master of the Legion" guys only wear Power Armor while nameless sergeants can wear Artificer Armor like sweat shirts?
> "No my lord, you're a Praetor but you can't wear it. We are short on supply... oh hey John your AA's just behind that Cataphractii."
Henry White
Thank you anons. So in short, the Siege of Terra was a failure. Even with the combined might of the Traitor Legions, Titans, Daemons, Traitor Primarchs and the Traitor Fleet, it did not fall.
Made me respect the BA, WS and IF even more.
Lucas Garcia
in your old lore yah, in the new lore they're on their way back their before terra, it's in Angelius
Noah James
I mean, you have the Primarch whose best at Sieges, the Primarch whose best at common sense and the Primarch who rips apart titans with his bare hands, how could they lose?
Charles Peterson
The emperor is a Sue
Zachary Garcia
bretty much everything was a failure, that's why they go all "m-muh long war" despite the loyalists rebuilding the imperium
Wyatt Watson
So how do they plan to explain Lion disappearing in his duel with Luthor on Caliban before he turns at Terra?
Henry Reed
So Dorn is Siege master (defender) and Pert is Siege master (attacker)?
> no wonder Iron Cage was shit
Benjamin Lee
How does the Templars fit into IF's defensive, siege theme?
James Morales
legions aren't just one convenient stereotype
Noah Lopez
>n Imperium had the Primarch best at raping Demons/Hordes, the Primarch best at Defences and the Primarch best at hit N run and harrying attacks against a greater force.
Sebastian Ross
You all seem to forget the imperium had the fucking emperor and his super-elite forces
Blake Brooks
The Emperor was kinda tied down with the Golden Throne and all.
Anthony Robinson
You got something wrong, no one's ever stated they're headed for Caliban. It's set in stone the Lion will meet with Russ and they'll go the last few sectors before Terra BTFOing traitors together.
Evan Long
gonna start painting my last tactical marines
David Hall
I just think it's amazing that Perturabo made the inner keep of the Iron Cage a huge killing zone.
"Brother, fight your way through 20 miles of minefields, gun nests and traps. When you get through all that, it will be totally worth it." :^)
Carson Adams
Cold-blooded ruse, truly.
Michael Gomez
Fucking Exterminatus is absent from those idiots' mind when it's the most logical choice
> Sizable force of Traitors and their fucking Primarch is on the planet > guaranteed trap > god damnit blow the fucking planet already
Jaxon Nelson
Not really a ruse, though. Just pert and dorn having the pissing match they never had a chance to do in the heresy.
Liam Sanders
W-why are you so mean Senpai!
Jonathan Edwards
Depends what kind of character you're making. What's his loadout and role going to be?
Dylan Bennett
...
Dylan Hughes
God dammit Kelbor-Hal
Justin Murphy
What project will you do when their done? Your hobbying zeal is an inspiration.
Daniel Evans
>50% of my characters are women!
That is how humans work, yes.
I mean if 50% of his space marines were women that'd be a bigger sticking point. As is, kinda undermines the rest of the rant by shoving in a non-sequitur.
Andrew Richardson
Come to think of it, wasn't Sev also having an affair with loli psyker on DA spaceship? How did it go?
Justin Turner
Sisters of Silence probably. Maybe custodes terminators if the models are as awesome as I expect them to be. And maybe a land raider for my command squad.
Josiah Edwards
>the imperium read master of mankind you pleb
Jaxson Flores
Cool, Sisters fit the DG well.
Gabriel Scott
So, she's a member of the astropathic choir, who shouldn't be speaking to him. She gets caught and beaten by the choir master. This pisses Sevetar off, so when he escapes (with a little help from psychic grill) rather than getting off the DA flagship, he goes and finds the choir master and kills the shit out of him for his crime.
Which suggests this may be a turning point for Sevatar as a character, perhaps turning from a generalised bastard into the murder-justice machine the night lords were meant to be: ‘I am justice,’ Sevatar calls out to them. With a last wrenching twist, he breaks the corpse’s neck and casts it onto the deck by his bare feet. ‘I am judgement. I am punishment. And I surrender.’
Logan Powell
Are Night Lords waifufags? >Sevatar and his astropath >Zso Sahaal and Mita Ashyn >Talos and Octavia (kind of an asspull but w/e)
Jackson Parker
>reading ADB HH Why?
Cameron Nguyen
>Kills a dude for enforcing a rule he doesn't like, that isn't even lethal punishment
There are better ways to protest that you don't like psykers can't talk to normies.
Bentley Thompson
All ADB novels include waifus.
Eli Gomez
only when written by that one bloke
Jayden James
I think he wrote master of mankind right?
Who's the Emperor's waifu?
Jacob Miller
His Custodes.
Thomas Nelson
Malcador.
Aaron King
That one Perpetual chick on Moloch.
Colton Foster
Shame he still gonna die crying "Death to the False Emperor!" on Terra rather than going true NL.
Henry Adams
Isn't she hates the Emperor?
Caleb Russell
Man she was a fuckup. >okay, I've got this duty to seal this portal if it seems the warmaster might get to it >this is enormously important, the fate of the galaxy could rest on it >shit, the traitors are invading the planet >I know, I'll spend several days getting my adopted family onto a spaceship rather than doing my galaxy-saving duty >right, done, now to deal with that portal, hope I still have time >oh shit it's Horu-
Gavin Perez
Arkhan Land.
Julian Ortiz
> Kharn and Lotara Sarrin > Argel Tal and Cyrene Valantion > Iskandar Khayon, Nefertari and Anamnesis
cue special snowflakes > one being respected by Angron > one being fucking Perpetual > one being full qt girl Machine Spirit > one being bloody Dark Eldar waifu
Really ADB?
Cooper Peterson
You know I don't think I'd buy a thunderhawk even at plastic prices, given it's basically a superheavy transport flyer first and foremost. Kinda useless in all but the hugest apocalpyse games.
Even as a display model, it's less cool for largely being a glorified drop pod.
It's actually kinda weird that Space Marines lack a big killy superheavy centrepiece.
Xavier Cox
>Space Marines lack a big killy superheavy centrepiece >Space Marines >as in, the army with Primarchs >lack a big killy superheavy centrepiece
Aaron Sanchez
I think the reason Space Marine vehicles are all either transports or transports modified into makeshift guns is because you're meant to think...
>Pffft... Superheavy vehicles? Heh, us Marines are the most elite warriors in the galaxy kid, these are all the superheavy guns you need *flexes S4 bolter*
And then the kid shrugs and paints an imperial knight in his Chapter's heraldry.
Nathan Parker
Pls no
Nolan Edwards
Primarchs aren't superheavy. They're just some tall asshole the narrative keeps sucking the dick of.
Connor Foster
Fellblade. Falchion. Glaive.
Joseph Torres
> 825pts Thuderhawk Gunship w/ Turbo-laser and flare shield > requires at least 3,300pts army
Anthony Ramirez
>what is Stormbird
Xavier Hughes
Even less killy than a Thunderhawk.
Oh right yes, the souped up Baneblade.
Yes fair enough, they have something. Weirdly marginalised in the fluff, but it exists.
Asher Baker
>turbo-laser >glorified drop pod
Gavin Green
How much was twin-armed Str D pie plates throwing Warhound again?
Henry Gray
750 I think. If it's not exactly that it's certainly roughly that.
Grayson Edwards
>ignorance is a virtue
Oliver Cox
>massive D blast + 5 twinned lascannon >less killy than a thunderhawk It's ok to admit that you're wrong user.
John Lewis
Drop pods have a stormbolter.
Ayden Ramirez
>Counting the orbital strike >Counting having someone else shoot for you
Thunderhawk at least carries it's own Thundercock cannon.