When you BBEG installs democracy and equality in your hellhole

It's not even meant as a joke. It's just a convenient acronym. Are you dumb?

A convenient acronym would be something like MV for Main Villain or PA for Primary Antagonist or FB for Final Boss.

"Big Bad Evil Guy" is just an awkward phrase, and BBEG isn't really all that convenient. If you really were extolling the virtues of fewer keystrokes, you'd just use boss and save yourself from having to hit the shift key.

Democracy is not inherently good. If the populace is evil, then they will elect an evil leader. E.g. pirate crews or some criminal gangs.

ohlocracy, oligarchy, tyranny

That actually happened in one of our games where we lost. Although to be fair our BBEG was more of an antagonist looking to change the current system which effectively branded her an upstart while WE, the player group, were part of Imperial special division sent to stop her. Long story short she outsmarted us, we ended up as prisoners pending execution and she dismantled the system for a more meritocratic kind of republic, I guess? We weren't even mad because it wasn't a simple HAHA YOU LOSE kind of out outcome.

Except no one has ever heard of MV or PA or FB and wouldn't know what you are talking about.

BBEG is an established acronym that people actually know, whether you like it or not.

>Movement Value, Pennsylvania, and Facebook.

BBEG is a term I've seen a lot. It's just one autistic guy who dislikes it, for some reason.

So, even if something isn't that great, you think it's worth using because of few people use it? It's hardly all that established outside of a very small minority, and it constantly creates confusion and miscommunication.

Even Main Opponent is better since its clearer and its definition is inherent, and it hardly takes a tremendous amount of effort to put forward a term and then refer back to MO subsequently.

People have been complaining about "Big Bad Evil Guy" for years. The early complaints seemed to be mostly about the concept itself, with many people disagreeing that a plot needed a character as a central antagonist.

Now, it seems that some of the complaints are about the language. "Big Bad Evil Guy" was coined to sound corny, and is more of an in-joke than a designation like "Central Antagonist." It's also grown to be somewhat vague, with some people using it as the central antagonist, others using it as the final antagonist, and still others using it as simply any antagonist, which can get confusing when trying to communicate about one of these specific ideas.

As far as the shitstorm, I think that comes in part because it takes very little effort to say "BBEG sounds dumb", which is enough to trigger some people who use that phrase. These people then go to say things like "you need to respect this acronym, it's Veeky Forums's acronym, every true fa/tg/uy uses BBEG exclusively," and that gets even people who had no real interest in the matter upset, because it starts to sound like there's people who are actually actively trying to push BBEG.

BBEG is a meme, and like most memes it doesn't have much of a shelf life. The old joke has faded, and now it seems like people are just finding it weird for people to be so fervent in holding onto it.

>It's hardly all that established outside of a very small minority, and it constantly creates confusion and miscommunication.
But that's fucking wrong. Furthermore, every alternative you suggested would create more confusion and miscommunication, especially in a board where everyone has used the bbeg stand in for years

>people

You mean one person doing it legitimately and a bunch of people that then realized it's easy to get (You)s with it?

>taking all this time to whine about slang
go ahead and use your immense cultural influence to convince others to stop using jargon that was around for a long time and widely used across many different communities in place of your fedora tipping "Central Antagonist"

Not really. BBEG causes far more confusion because some people use it for a general villain, others use it for a final villain, and others use it for the main villain.

If I say Final Villain, and then refer back to it as the FV, that should be fairly obvious what I'm talking about.

>only one person thinks "Big Bad Evil Guy" sounds dumb

This is what autists who use BBEG really believe.

>Fable 3: the post

The hell s a general, final and main villain, why do you have so many villains, what is the point? Do you really think people really care about that?

>widely used
Hardly. Even Big Bad is better known, and that's solely because it was used in Buffy. "BBEG" is such a rarity that it often require clarification even when used with obvious context clues.

>fedora tipping
Are you just prone to misusing jargon?

Why's he a big bad then

>general
Any villain. This is typically how most people end up using "BBEG", because clarity isn't a concern of theirs.

>final/ultimate
This is often the interpretation used by people who think it stands for "Big Bad End Game," the final encounter and battle, and the guy pulling the strings. The Emperor Palpatine.

>main
The face of evil. He might be the final encounter, but he can also be being manipulated or controlled by the ultimate villain. The Darth Vader.

Democracy and equality are inherently Evil

MO is Main Objective, BBEG is the current primary threat. BBEG is easier to reconize in writing as what it is because it has been established as such. If you want to use other acronyms go right ahead, no one is stopping you.

It's easier to deny that which you are ignorant about than to admit you were wrong.
If you hate 'big bad' or the variant 'big bad evil guy', just learn to accept that other people know about cultural tropes that are different from yours and accept it. The phrase has been coined and is widely used. You're not suddenly gonna get everybody using literary criticism jargon like 'central antagonist'.
>>BBEG means big bad end game
LMAO you don't seriously believe this.

Modus operandi.

But more importantly,

>needing to use acronyms

>people who use acronyms out loud in spoken conversation

Disgusting.

If talking D&D, no, they are Chaotic, not Evil

>BBEG is the current primary threat.

Except that's not the case. Under your definition, the boss of a dungeon is a BBEG, and that goes against what most people would define the BBEG as.

>If you want to use other acronyms go right ahead, no one is stopping you.

Want to see a hissy fit? Go ahead and try to use a different acronym, and watch the BBEG fags go insane.
It really does seem like some guys are super attached to that term and will go ballistic if anyone tries to use something that could actually be printed or spoken out loud unironically.

>Go ahead and try to use a different acronym, and watch the BBEG fags go insane.
Got archive links to substantiate that claim?

>BBEG means big bad end game
This is what some people who use BBEG think it means. That's how awkward and obtuse the acronym is, with some people who use it not even knowing what it stands for.

I remember someone made a thread with a "Dungeon Master's Main Villain", a counterpart to the DMPC (with the main villain being the DM's self insert). They used DMMV as shorthand after introducing the term.

It wasn't even an attempt to replace BBEG, but something completely different altogether, and BBEG fags went ballistic for about a week after that thread.

You've got to understand that people who like a phrase like "Big Bad Evil Guy" are hardly the most sensible and mature people, hence why they're so easily triggered and chosen as a target for trolling.

No one believes that. You are letting a tiny bit of evidence of some random teenager somewhere using a word wrong influence your beliefs and ignoring the extremely prevalent use of the phrase properly by everyone else.

Guys try to defeat my Department of Motor Vehicles!

>No one believes that.

Is this the part where you believe that you are the spokesperson for BBEG and everyone who uses it is using it exactly as you personally imagine them to be?

Even a casual look into the archive show plenty of people not only thinking it means End Game, but preferring it to Evil Guy.

The personal computers should get on that.

>user, same user but phoneposting and his imaginary friends are pretending BBEG isn't for real again

>You've got to understand that people who like a phrase like "Big Bad Evil Guy" are hardly the most sensible and mature people, hence why they're so easily triggered and chosen as a target for trolling.
The only person who has been triggered here is you.

>insane guy who keeps routinely making lazy "BBEG" threads is having an entire phantom conversation with himself.

i fixed it for you
>BBEG leads a rebellion in the kingdom to install an egalitarian republic
>being the leader of the rebellion he eventually undermines the system and is installed as a firm and not completely benevolent autocrat
>He starts conquering the shit out of all nearby countries with his supreme skills at conquering shit
>Party has to gather support throughout the realms to amass an army to take him down
>He flees to a an island province of little consequence and the kingdom is restored
>But then comes back just a few months later and the party has to do the same thing all over again
>After being defeated the second time he is forever banished to the outer realms and vast propaganda efforts are made to ensure he is mostly remembered for supposedly being a short, angry fucker rather than a military genius and the greatest threat to the world order ever seen

let's try to make something more palpable
strawpoll.me/12660249

Both sides are triggered.
It's really one-sided of you to think that making fun of BBEG isn't striking some people's nerves. People make fun of lots of stuff, but it seems like making fun of BBEG is what's getting threads derailed and people upset.
You sound pretty upset right now yourself.

I refer to the most important villains in the story as the Provocateurs Centrale and the characters that the players create are the Band of Benign Explorers and Guardians. Please don't misuse my terminology, it's very precise in its meaning and I don't take kindly to people making up arbitrary definitions.

Holy fuck
Why are you autist so mad that another autist spams his hate for an acronym that has been used for years on multiple different sites
While this thread is a shitposting thread, its still really fucking annoying

>that has been used for years on multiple different sites

I figured out which autist you are.

The type of autist who doesn't care about what others think about me because of an arbitrary acronym?

BBEG is stupid because Big Bad Evil Guy/End Game is a term you'd only use to reference the acronym.

>Why are you autist

You never ever worked even one day in your life, did you?

>Fallout from today's IBO ending is spilling onto Veeky Forums

How many more boards will it spread to?

A lot. It's basically this decade's Destiny ending.

Thanks America.

It's pretty common terminology.

BBEG tho

user thats a copy pasta.

Most businesses and government organizations use acronyms pretty regularly, especially when talking about specific pieces of equipment. Military uses them enough that it takes a moment for it to click when someone uses the full term.

Humanitarian scrub.
Try saying "deoxyribonucleic acid" or "cyclopentane perhydro phenanthrene" several times

Which is a problem in most medieval settings because the vast majority of citizens have zero education period. So it either ends up being an aristocracy or a mess.
Question is, do the PC's fight against the BBEG by trying to undo it, or by trying to educate the masses.

at least we now know antiBBEG autismo is contagious

He's going to keep doing it while you keep biting you retards.

Lol so Napolean?

I'm late, but:
>You could use "Boss" over BBEG, as it's more convenient
>When they're both the same amount of letters and start with a B
???

What happened? How bad was it?

>DMV = BBEG
Holy shit. It all makes sense now.

MV is too close to MVP, PA already means personal assistant, FB is facebook

Brah are you even trying

youtube.com/watch?v=RGjab76TJ3c

Go and see for yourself on the other boards.

Honestly dude, everyone uses it and anyone who doesnt know it can easily learn just by asking or lurking a single day

Most people don't use it though. Villain is much, much more common.

Big Bad Evil Guy is a term used to distinguish the overarching villain(s) (usually the leader(s) of (an) organization(s)) from the villain/monster of the episode.

The various murderers and criminals in Sherlock Holmes stories are villians while Moriarty is a BBEG.

kill the BBEG, but keep democracy
just cause he is evil doenst mean all his reforms are bad
the "sacrifice schoolchildren to the dark gods" program should probably be terminated though

Most people do.

No, you're wrong, and you're a faggot. If you say BBEG, people know you're talking about the ultimate villain, period. Stop being fucking lazy and get a new trolling method.

>BBEG employs necromancers and diviners for his labor board
>upon birth, every citizen has their natural life expectancy divined
>every citizen aware that their lives will be cut at the 40% mark
>in exchange, everyone given a beautiful home, new servants, food, and access to high-quality state-owned services
>upon death, bodies are zombified, controlled by necromancers under employ of the BBEG ruler
>becomes the newborn citizens' servants
>become common labor after the bodies begin to decay
>"killed for good" at end of divined life expectancy to pass into afterlife
>people with natural magical skill allowed to live natural life if they pledge to be necromancers or diviners

Champagne socialism in a fantasy land.

Ignore the "BBEG" autist. Its one guy who's been here for a couple months stirring up shit.

As a devout Monarchist, I would never passively accept this change. This bbeg has made a sworn enemy.

Overblown, really.

The protagonists got btfo and the the guy that was viewed as the antagonist of S2 won and turned out to be a decent guy. The survivors of the protagonist faction lived happily ever after and everything improved for everyone.

It's a very non-standard Gundam ending. And coupled with shitposters, it's just snowballing everywhere. It's usually the MC not wanting to kill anyone, stopping the villain, and stopping the fighting through understanding.

At the moment it's at 25 yes and 6 no.

you're welcome

looking forward to this pasta dying

I use BBEG for the head Antagonist in a campaign. Avoids confusion wth mid bosses.
Half my Antagonists aren't even evil, but it works.

I don't care what anyone says, I liked it. I've been listening to Freesia non-stop all day.

o7

>It's usually the MC not wanting to kill anyone, stopping the villain, and stopping the fighting through understanding.

Nah, thats just a couple of old AU Gundams, some OVAs and Unicorn, started with CCA

Most of ending in UC is somewhat fucked up, like vegetable ending in Zeta, failed understanding in ZZ, hamburgers ending in 0080, cucked ending in 0083, and Tomino's aftermath in Victory. IBO is pretty much just following the old traditions a bit.

This is becoming owlbear stats once again, a meme that was never funny forced into becoming a tradition of Veeky Forums. ISHYGDDT

I'm generalizing for people that don't know. That it isn't a 'usual' Gundam ending is essentially /m/'s problem with it.

Also it has problems and haters are going to hate and shitposters are going to shitpost, so no one gets over said problems. Such is life.

Wow, YOU need to get a life, you dude who want to force BBEG and pretend anyone except faggots use it.

Go back to tvtropes.

Holy shit do you not have a job? A life? Why don't you go spend some time with your loved ones? Don't have any? How much autism did the doctors say you have? Will you have a seizure if I say it over and over again? BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BEEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG BBEG

He was the end game we deserved.

And I'm stoked he gets to enjoy the fruits of his work without any repercussions. Everyone else got whacked and Rustal gets to sit pretty.

> #
> #
> (You) #
>YOU

Okay thanks, senpai. Enjoy your delicious (you)s.

A number of the protagonist's faction died relatively pointless deaths and the antagonist ended up essentially doing what the protagonists wanted anyway.

That cocksucking fuck should have died
Worst fucking ending ever.

Given how badly stacked things were his way, there was no real feasible way for him to have lost short of a bullshit deus ex machina.

I honestly don't mind the ending in theory, but honestly they should have made it more clear that Rustal wasn't simply going to continue on with the corrupt status quo. As it is it just seems like he changed his mind in a flight of whimsy.

At least Galigali got a happy ending with his kinda-waifu.

Quit trying to force your shitty meme user, it was funny the first time you acted like BBEG isn't a super common term but no it's just annoying

>BBEG

Ugh.