Half-orc creation

It's the core book write up for the 5e D&D.

Literally the 5e race description.

Did they seriously drop out rape completely? Man, that's sad.

Go on...

Reminds me of a thread in which guy was disallowed to play a half-orc because the DM decided there was absolutely zero rape in his setting. The solution was that his parents were an orc warlord and a human sorceress, in a very consensual relationship. The reason he adventures is to get out of the house, because of how much sex they have.

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Dragon.

In my setting they're literally half orcs. Like a wizard cut someone in half vertically and an orc in half vertically, and sewed them together.

For every single human and orc, you get two half orcs.

Some guys are really into femdom and love the thought of being with a woman taller and stronger than they are.

;_;

There's unironically no reason why an orc and a human couldn't bang besides tribalism. If they could get past that, there's no reason two couldn't bang. The fact they can reproduce suggests man and orc are similar anyway.

rape

I mean orcs were based on certain subraces of human in the first place, so naturally

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if it's a human male and an orc female it's a half-orc. If it's an orc male and a human female it's a half-human.

I wonder if the potential of half elves and half orcs is ever addressed with that logic. Progenitor races is strongly implied.

Of course, how that explains half dragons is another ball of wax.

half-orcs are only an issue when orcs aren't a playable race.

>There's unironically no reason why an orc and a human couldn't bang besides tribalism.

I mean, Tribalism can also be a pretty good motivator in the literal sense: orc and human tribes marrying one another to end conflicts or to control larger stretches of land collectively, etc..

You know, typical marriage stuff.

What if they're cursed humans and not rape babies?

>Did they seriously drop out rape completely?
Not if you consider that they explicitly mention arranged strategic marriages, and what that often entails. But "Orcs raid a human village and carry off the women?" Yeah, they kind of avoided that one.

sex

penis in vagina:DDDDDDDD

>If it's an orc male and a human female, the orc raped the human
>If it's a human male and an orc female, it's love
So human men don't rape?
So orc women don't rape?
So human women don't rape?

....they do a special kind of hug?

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You misspelled benis

Orc women don't have a concept of "Non consensual sex"

>The local humans and orcs have waged war on eachother for so long and so intensely that it has threatened the future existence of both races
>They decide on an alternative way to solve their grievances: the Rape Games
>Both parties will have a certain number of competing men and women
>The games of the games consist of group wrestling matches, where the intention is to rape a many of the other race as possible
>The rape counts as completed when a man ejaculates inside of a woman of the opposite race
>The winner is whoever is on top during ejaculation
>In the end the points are tallied and a winner is decided
And that's where half-orcs come from.

Please elaborate

>Specific rules? Any outlandish incidents in the process?

Hits very close to my magical realm.

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>Specific rules?
Naturally. Can't have a competition without rules.
>Wrestling is allowed but no chokeholds, punching, kicking or biting
>To avoid biased judgements the referees of the match must all be from other races
>There must be visible ejaculate in the woman's vagina, doublechecked by the referee
>Many teams will have a "prize stud" of great sexual vigor. Having him pinned down by the opposing teams women could mean defeat, so he is often escorted by virgin one pump chumps

>Outlandish incidents
Multiple
>During the first Rape Games the winner was decided by whoever made the other party orgasm first. This led to conflicts involving female orgasms and male dry orgasms. The first Rape Games ended without a winner
>The Second Rape Games were held a few years later with the new "ejaculation" ruleset. Ever since it has become custom for men to properly hydrate days if not weeks prior to the event
>Some men eat as many bitter things as possible, to discourage the opposing team from blowing them
>During the 6th Rape Games, an androgynous orcish female wore a strap-on in order to trick and distract the human women. This proved highly effective, but it was outlawed for the 7th Rape Games
>Leading up to the 25th Rape Games the humans had forced their women to train their kegels, leading to a smashing victory over the orcs. The orcs have in turn decided to train their own women. It is said that an orcish female isn't considered a woman until she can pop a champagne bottle between her legs
>Durring the 92nd Rape Games an elderly Orcish Chieftain, who was considered a prize stud despite his advanced age, was overwhelmed by three human women. He died with two women on his pelvis and another on his face. It was feared that this would lead to an armed conflict, but the chieftain's son didn't seem to mind. Ever since all contestants are required to be younger than 65
>After the /ss/ incident of the 106th Rape Games, they're also required to be older than 25

I recognize this copypasta and approve of it. Carry on.

My mother was an orc, and my father was a very brave man.

>From my settings
When the Orc, that is, a male only humanoid creature made in the image of Orcus, the God of Conquest & Slaughter, has non-consensual (either way is fine, so the male Orc can be raped by horny elves) sex with another female humanoid, the child will be an Orc, killing the mother on the day of birth. While orcs are ugly and stupid creatures, they are strong of arm and will, and exhude excessive amounts of sex pheromones which stimulates lust and anger on a primal level. If on the other hand, a child is born from consensual sex with an Orc, thereby the Orc renouncing his God and evil nature, a half-orc is born, but the Orc dies, an evolutionary dead end for them by Orcus' decree. That half-orc is free of Orcus' curse of evil, and cannot be touched by him, but neither does the Child receive the gifts of being a natural warrior.

I liked Volo's Guide to Monsters take on how orcs breed. Both male and female are rape machines, but they take no pleasure in the act and are driven to do it by Gruumsh because he needs more soldiers to win his eternal war against Maglubiyet.
Then again, I like my fantasy to be a bit bleak like that.

Sounds very similar to my settings here
Cool

>I recognize this copypasta
But I just made all of that up. How can it be a copypasta?

Looks like we have a time paradox. This happens sometimes with strong pasta. It will sometimes travel back in time to start earlier so it can grow stronger as a meme. It's a positive feedback loop that eventually destroys the universe.

Half-breeds imply common genetic ancestry for the hybrids to be both strong and fertile. as such, it means that humans and orcs aren't that different and existence of either is a cruel trick of fate or we are talking about some serious adaptive reasons for greenish hide and big tusks.

I remember playing once with this weird DM that was against any kind of halfbreeds in his games.

>no such thing as half-orcs or half elves or half-whatever
>God hates mixed-breeds
>everyone who racemixes dies in agony during the act
>and then goes to hell

It probably got overlooked a lot because the DM himself was black.

He probably saw BlacknBig Chad with a whitey tighty and went full RaHoWa

>Half-breeds imply common genetic ancestry for the hybrids to be both strong and fertile.
>hybrids
>fertile
Mules have good traits from both parents, but males are incapable of breeding, with females being able to breed around 20% of the time.
I would treat half-breeds having children in fantasy like female mules, but their genetics for one side being very regressive.

That's ignoring cases where the resulting hybrids are perfectly fertile, which has happened repeatedly across history. Of most famous note is the widespread species of modern humanity, which is basically a hybrid of homo-sapiens and neanderthals.

yes, but situations like these assume common enough base or similarity for the half-breeds to become common. either way, hybrids can be very powerful, combining orc strength and human guile.

Are we? Wait, so we are half orcs?

Not really, old homo-sapien was taller and leaner, basically elves.
Neanderthals were short and stocky and lived in cold areas, basically dwarves.

So modern humanity basically really is "When the elves fucked the dwarves"

>which is basically a hybrid of homo-sapiens and neanderthals

The jury is still out on the neanderthal influence in our genetics, and modern africans have no common ground with either of the other human races out there and have no historic DNA links to either Neanderthals or modern Caucasian or East Asian populations.
Despite ability to cross-breed, a lot indicates that present non-African populations evolved into what they are after early homo sapiens left Africa some 120-80k years ago

>Sperging out about blacks again.
I don't even want you to source, just chill your pants.

He seemed pretty calm and reasonable bucko. Its not like your post was full of sources either.

Oh definitely, but it's the immediate swerve into "We aren't related to blacks at all!" That made it seem knee-jerk. Because otherwise, how is the distinction relevant?

He's not wrong you know.
phys.org/news/2016-10-europeans-africans-immune-neanderthals-partly.html
Even if you want to pretend evolution somehow ignores intelligence (congratulations: you're more retarded than a creationist) the fact is that Europeans and Africans have different immune systems. The explanation is partly in the fact that Europeans have Neanderthal genetics and Africans do not.

seeker.com/all-non-africans-part-neanderthal-genetics-confirm-1765302858.html
Here's another source: not just Europeans, but ALL non-Africans have Neanderthal DNA. From the Europeans to the Asians and from the Incans to the Eskimos.

>Rape

This is something I never understood logically. I mean RAPE would imply that human females for some reason look desirable to an Orc.
Shouldn't they look hideous to them?
Or is beauty something that universally recognized on a genetic level due to golden ratio you can find everywhere in nature?

Wouldn't the only Orcs who want to fuck humans be considered weird or outcasts for wanting to fuck them?

Then again we do have some real life examples in Europe of Muslim Immigrants raping the Elderly...

My setting details on Orcs and Elves
>The two races are very closely related, but neither them nor their gods want to even think about it, though how exactly I haven't flesh out other than that it's been almost completely erased from history to the point that none but the heads of their respective pantheons really know the full details
>Both orcs and elves matriarchal and rather militaristic though in differing ways.
>While the gender ratio wouldn't be 1:500 or some bullshit like that, by far the majority of elven archers/mages and orc warriors will be female, and they tend to be bigger/stronger than their male counterparts
>Both the races share the same ideal beauty for reasons, that of an androgynous swimmers physique, "All elves looking like females" and orc's tendencies to kidnap and rape/"marry" other races stem from this
>Both races are pretty big on an individual and larger social level showing they're strong enough to dominate those beneath them
>Orcs are more overt about physical/military domination
>Elves tend to more social/political displays of dominance over their lessers
>Drow aren't too different from surface elves, other than being a LOT more willing to resort to murder as a first option
>Yes that means when orcs rape and pillage it's more likely for them to carry off attractive men than attractive women
>Same thing happens when the elves rape and pillage as well

>Write long ass post, don't notice errors until posted

>Or is beauty something that universally recognized on a genetic level due to golden ratio you can find everywhere in nature?
In my setting it has to do with >Both the races share the same ideal beauty for reasons, that of an androgynous swimmers physique, "All elves looking like females" and orc's tendencies to kidnap and rape/"marry" other races stem from this
But also more generally the standard for beauty is "attractive humanoid" cause that's what the goddess of beauty set the platonic ideal of it to

>Still posts sources even though no one really cares.
Are we really doing this?
>more retarded than a creationist
Apparently.

Who actually gives a shit? "Hurr, we mixed with neanderthals so we're better."
It doesn't matter. Those non-neanderthal blacks in Mali and Songhai did fucking great until Europe invented the gun and poured a subcontinent's worth of resources into the Berber's to conquer them. Apparently Timbuktu was a world center of learning after Baghdad fell and before the Renaissance. Run by blacks.

The mostly isolated Subsaharan Africa was mostly iron age tech wise, which puts them above the native americans who were stone age at best, despite their supposedly superior "neanderthal DNA"

So really, you're overestimating the relationship between intelligence and evolution.

Damn, you mean Homo Erectus,,? Those fags made it for 1 million years, and while they were taller and very slender, they also looked ugly as fuck. Even neanderthal dude was prettier. Still it sucks that we are basically the remnants of the.manlets who raped themselves to victory.

>posts incorrect fact
>people post sources and argue their rationale
>guise no-one cares!! no sources plz
>also you might be racist

>Fantasy thread
>Some guy makes casual mention of modern human being mixed with neanderthal
>Guy spergs about blacks
>"Don't go there"
>Guys feel the need to post their "rationale" like it's /pol/
No one cares, because it's the wrong place and the wrong time. All I said was that there are cases where hybrids are perfectly viable and used modern humans as an example.

Though if you must continue talking about black people, then that's another viable hybrid if their modern lack of neanderthal means anything. Most African Americans are at least 30% white and have some kind of Native American mixed into them, thus creating a pretty modern hybrid human.
It's where the term mulatto mule-atto came from.

Neanderthals leave africa,
Homo something leave africa later.
Neanderthal live in small groups, good adaption to cold, but die of interbreeding. While clever they do not like each other apparently. Good guy human ancestor comes in and fucks them, stabilizing our own immune system, and gaining cold resistance, but leaving neanderthals fucked. Or fuck with us or die. Y chromosome from neanderthals doesn't cross over to babies born from Homo whatever females, and this apparently suggests it was actually neanderthals doing the raping, but since we lived in greater numbers we could outcuck them 9 to 1 according to Wikipedia.

Well really you brought this on yourself. Telling someone to 'not talk about X' on Veeky Forums is never going to work.
Its like telling someone to calm down, it just ain't gonna happen.

>Shouldn't they look hideous to them?

They're usually not THAT different unless you're talking about pig orcs. Green, bulky, tusks, and that's pretty much it. Other than the tusks, the differences in facial features aren't any more extreme than what you see in different types of human.

This post reminds me of a conversation in Mass Effect 2 where a Krogan wondered why anyone would want to fuck the asari, since they're too squishy and you can't really get a good grip.

The way I think about it is that "beauty" standards are a bit skewed when you look at someone from a different race. Maybe it's your genes telling you to go for something more exotic for better genetic variety, maybe you just don't have any "standards of beauty" for that particular race. (Kinda like how all asians rook same to westerners.) But I've noticed this happening in more than just a couple of places. For example a lot of black men going for really fat white women, white men going for asian trannies, asian men going for latino women etc.

Or maybe at the end of the day it's more of a power thing, kinda like prison rape.

I don't understand where and how you construed this user had some evil agenda. It makes perfect sense that sprinkling a little cold resistance into the genome pool helped the modern European humans to survive the environment. What exactly did you interpret this as?

Fungal assimilation of other genetic strains, enabling many breeds of ork and ork related creatures, can be done via airborne spores grabbing remains or leavings, or the... fun way my orks are versitile

>Orks are mushrooms
This cocaine fueled sci fi fantasy is no better than dwarfs pop out of the stone. They are the only reason wh40k is any fun at all tho.

Human men aren't capable of raping orc women. Just like human women aren't capable of resisting orc rape.

>It makes perfect sense that sprinkling a little cold resistance into the genome pool helped the modern European humans to survive the environment
If this had ever been said, then I wouldn't have argued anything. That's basic logic. White people are hairy because "neanderthal cold resistance" is just obvious.

Instead he went off the unrelated idea of "genetic intelligence" and claimed only people dumber than creationists would laugh at the idea.

There are genes which are specifically related to language, intelligence. So they exist. I have no idea how these were distributed, but going by Homo Erectus kicking ass using fire and tools for a million years in Africa, it would be marginal at best.

It was a blending of various settings

Neanderthals were both more resistant to cold and more intelligent than the Homo Sapiens. You acknowledge that this has the result that modern Europeans are hairier than Africans, but somehow dismiss the idea that this also affects their intelligence?

This is what I mean by "evolution stops at the neck" and this is why I respect creationists more than I respect you: creationists reject all forms of evolution, not just the parts they don't like.

>More intelligent than homo-sapiens
Since when?

Regardless, intelligence is one of those things that can be easily controlled afterward.
If you're born to grow a lot of hair, there's little you can do to change your hairy genes
But being born without neanderthal DNA doesn't mean you're forever dumb. Again, I point to Songhai and Timbuktu as my examples of people developing just fine without being part Neanderthal. Those areas developed into great complex socities with schools, organized warfare, culture, and whatever you can think of to say "civilized", while at the same time Native Americans who have those Neanderthal genes, developed to stone age technology. They had culture and organization sure, but so did everyone else.

Any boost to intelligence from evolution is minor at best, as history has proven, so that's why the idea is laughable.

I think I know what that user's talking about, I have no idea how they came that conclusion but apparently the current thought is Neanderthals were smarter than Homo Sapiens but had real shitty social intelligence and couldn't work together nearly as well

I made a half-orc paladin character
His backstory started with his orc mother
She wanted to be strong independent woman but clan was going to have her be a bride-bribe to another clan
So she flees to nearest humie city where clan can never get her
She lived on the street for a while until some social workers from the church of Seranae got her into a sort-of foster-home/apprenticeship operated by family of human blacksmiths
One of the sons liked her and she liked him, they grew up, reached puberty, bada boom bada bing, three Seranae worshipping half-orcs with a basic knowledge of blacksmithing
my paladin was the middle brother, his older sister is a cleric, youngest sister is still going to parochial school

>get orc
>get human
>cut off human arms
>cut off orc arms
>attach orc arms to human
>attach human arms to orc
>cut off human legs
>cut off orc legs
>attach orc legs to human
>attach human legs to orc

There.

Well, when a mummy and daddy love each other very much user.....

Depends
A player character can easily do it, even at low levels

What if she/he's sleeping or restrained?

Orcs are barbarians as described by Focault. They exist in opposition to a civilization, they don't build but they take, and their power is made at the expense of others. They only give up their own power when doing so will gain them more than they lost.

They take loot, villages, people, and consume and absorb them making it their own. The black blood of the Orc is strong. They're like a mongrel people now, some with piggish traits, others more human, or stockier like a dwarf.

Half-orcs are still orcish, but likely the least orcish in nature of the clans. They appear the most human and are what anons post when they post green skinned muscle chicks and call them orcs.

Big Green Benis :DDD in human bagina :DDD
THen they fugg ;DDDD:D

Do you collate goblins with orcs?

An orc and a dork pork.

rape isnt about beauty necessarily. it could be a power thing.

Well you see, when an orc and a human love each other very much...

People have sex with animals, user.

Of course humanoids would rape other humanoids.

wait
>cut off orc head
>cut off human head
>attach orc head to human
>attach human head to orc
>cut out orc guts
>cut out human guts
>attach human guts to orc
>attach orc guts to human
what now

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Hey man, i didnt name no genders, i just said mate

I'm just avoiding the mess all together and having my upcoming half-orc character come from a tribe of half-orcs. They are uncommon, but at least in a few settings some half-orcs come together to form their own communities.

>They appear the most human and are what anons post when they post green skinned muscle chicks and call them orcs.

Nope. Whatever arbitrary definitions/headcanon you came up with that constitutes what a "real orc" looks like doesn't apply to anyone but yourself.

Cry more little bitch.