Chaotic Civilization

I believe it's been discussed before, but I've got evil plans for a Black Crusade game and want to know if they can come to fruition. Could a civilization that worships the chaos gods function? Could it work as an Imperium like state?
Would one god be better for such nations, or would Undivided work best?

Hmmm...Maybe you could have an incredibly martial state dedicated to Khorne? Like Space Devil Worshiping Spartans?

A Tzeetchian magocracy?

A monomaniacal fixation on one god seems counterproductive. I think an Undivided civilization that paid tribute to all equally as a pantheon would have the best chance, especially if it operated as a theocracy in the style of the Word Bearers. A dark(er) mirror of the Imperium.

Behold! The Silent Empire of Malal!
How have we not wiped ourselves out, you ask? Because so long as those other Chaos fuckers exist, we refuse to vanish!

That's what I was thinking. A theocratic state, with maybe political parties representing each god. Perhaps even lead by someone who believes themself to be an incarnation of the God Emperor, and is trying to secure his place on Terra.

I was thinking more maybe Rome for a khornate state, what with the coliseums, blood sports, and massive military tradition.
In fact, you could probably find an aspect of each god in Rome.

Everyone is already a chaos cultist. Some are just in denial.

>Political Parties

>Vote Khorne to Make Chaotica Great Again by bombing the shit out of the Imperium!

>Slaanesh promises a sex slave in every house!

>Papa Nurgle says we're Stronger Together!

>Tzeentch! Hope and Change!

>Slaanesh Party aligned president vows before the congress that he was indeed having brutal sex in the octogon office and not watching videos of cute cats

ADB get the fuck out.

>Could a civilization that worships the chaos gods function? Could it work as an Imperium like state?

Yes. Yes. It would work just like the Imperium. Just more murder, more demonic possession, less food, etc. etc. etc.

Basically like a worse Imperium, with more death and more might-makes-right.

Warriors of Chaos from WHFB, only with more sci-fi shit.

If you said norses maybe. WoC are just self sustaining (armor removes the need for logistics) marauding groops that decide to stop stepping on eachother's dicks from time to time.

True. Either way, the Norse in WHFB are pretty much exactly how a Chaos-worshiping society would work in 40k, only scaled up to fit the setting. A good example would be the Blood Pact, who worship Khorne but aren't blood-crazed berserkers. They're basically the Imperial Guard with some Khorne thrown in.

Unbridled freedom coexisting alongside unimaginable tyranny.

Ben Counter's Daemon World is a good example of a working chaos world.

Its a technobarbarian feudal world with city states, organized temples, nomad barbarians cults, renegade space marines and factions all simultaneously trying to take over, bargain, gain favour of the dark gods, etc. Empires rise and fall.

>Tzeentchian president comes under intense scrutiny after being suspected of not being responsible for the firey death of his chief political rival
>Dubbed "Flamergate", the scandal explodes after records are unearthed of him commenting that he liked the man
>Under threat of impeachment the president resigns
>Leaves the Black House in a Valkyrie
>Mutterings of "Just as Planned" widely dismissed as delusional sop to his followers

Absolutely. The meme that Chaos is all back-stabbing all the time needs to die.
You'll have planets divided among different cults who are in a semi-permanent state of war with each other, planets ruled by Astartes and molded to whatever they wish, and planets like the one in Legion, where everything is fairly normal, it's just religion is arcane and a bit creepy and human sacrifice happens now and again.
As far as religion goes, any of the gods or Undivided can work, with Undivided being a bit better as people are less disposed to mono-mania. Remember, honoring a God and being a fanatic of that God are two different things. It's why a Berzerker is this crazy intense, nearly suicidal warrior, while a warrior with the Mark of Khorne is merely ferocious in close quarters. And even then there are people who worship a god but don't have its mark, too.

Anarcho-Capitalist Tzeentchians?

Although prone to a higher rate of failure, self-sustaining Chaos civilisations can exist in 40k as is, if a little volitile. There's lots of Chaos worlds out there, some are just planets which haven't been touched by the light of the Imperium or have been living under the rules of Chaos forces long enough for it to become the norm.


The fact that the scenario says that the power of the warp is weaker fr us just means its effects on our ways of life will be that much weaker.


Life mostly just goes on as is, but with weekly blood taxes, national orgy exhibitions, Rotting meat as a prized global commodity and people sending their kids off to school wearing bird skulls.

(Is the conclusion that was generally accepted in the last thread for a chaos civilization)

How much of a crook is him?

Don't you mean a lighter, more free mirror of the Empire? lol

Not enough.

>Last election was primarily between Khornate and Nurglite candidates
>Major issue was the influx of illegal Imperials bringing law and order
>Khornate suggested building a wall out of their skulls, his opponent wanted to offer a path of citizenship via infection of Nurgle's Rot
>Nurglite accused of faking the extent of her illnesses
>Khornate wins approval from traditionally Slaaneshi voters by publicly beheading journalists who question him
>Polls suggest Nurgilite cruising to victory, but in an upset the Khornate carries several swing districts on election night
>Nurglites have since accused Tzeentchian hackers of interference

>Nurgle party minister of plenty tanks in popularity after rumors of him changing his clothes several times in the last month
>Violent riots in the Khorne disctricts after the blood tax got lowered again
>Slaaneshii functionary discusses astrates-daemon marriages with off-world Dark Apostle: should born and neverborn be allowed to unite not just in one body?

Was Tzzentch supposed to support nurgle?

>Could a civilization that worships the chaos gods function?
I think a few of those are actually described in the various Black Crusade books.Try flipping through them and see what you find.

If it hasn't been mentioned already, Daemon World by Ben Counter has a Slaaneshi civilization that's fleshed out decently well and seems to not be 100% "kill everything" retarded.

It's also a good read in general. I recommend it. It features Word Bearers but they're far from the main part of the book and the daemon planet is the true main character.

>Tzeetch - Democratic Socialism. Call it what you want, it still ends the same.
>Nurgle - Communism. All are equal before Nurgle
>Khorne - Anarchy, Laissez-faire Capitalism, Anarcho-bullshit. Might makes right, you pick are responsible to for your own shit and getting it.
>Slaanesh - Current political climate, let's do what feels good over what is just and good. LBQTpedo whatever.

For most of them, I'd imagine they're the Mexican Cartels, but on a planetary scale.

>The only thing that matters is the rule of law, and the only law is the one laid down by the Head Nigga In Charge.
>The HNIC appoints subordinates he feels capable of running various facets of his operations, and brings them into his circle of wealth and exploitation. These subordinates have their own subordinates that run various sub-categories of tasks for their masters, and in turn have their own subordinates, etc., going all the way down to a slave underclass that is basically nothing more than property of the cartel.
>Violence is the only real means through which decisions are resolved - however, there will still likely be a facade of tradition and civility to their public proceedings, while back-doors will be rife with violence and plotting for personal advancement.
>The boss doesn't care how you meet your quota - only that you meet it, and you don't damage the property of his boss.
>Society revolves around exploitation and violence - if you ain't doing the fucking, you're the one getting fucked, and the economy runs in exactly that manner.
>Because of the extremely violent nature of the society, it is also a surprisingly meritocratic one. If you're good at your job and manage to not get killed by your rivals, you're pretty much set as long as you're on your game.
>Plate your guns and chainsword in brass, gold, or silver, so you let them other boys know you from Sinaloa, muchacho

>>Slaanesh - Current political climate, let's do what feels good over what is just and good. LBQTpedo whatever.

Slaanesh is the epitome of self-centeredness and mass exploitation. They are far more anarchic than say Khorne is, because even Khorne respects discipline within his ranks (well, usually, sometimes he doesn't, do read too hard into it).

Khorne would be the literal Military-Industrial Complex, but where the religion IS the military-industrial complex and everything not directly related to killing more shit dead better is not worth the time.

>Slaanesh is the epitome of self-centeredness and mass exploitation

What do we want?
>Free healthcare for me
>Free education for me
>Free shit for me
>Me me me me

What are they doing?
>Lying to us
>Misleading us
>Controlling us
>Exploiting us

What are we pursuing?
>Gays widely encouraged to be gayer
>Children being raised by people who up until 50 years ago were classed as a disorder
>Boys can be girls, girls can be boys. Gender, sex, orientation are no longer fixed
>Can brutalize your body to find the idea you

Khorne is literally might is right, nothing about back hand dealings and military-industrial complex

>What is Q'Sal

It's literally in the books for the system you're trying to use. But reading the source material is for plebs, right?