/HHG/ The Horus Heresy General

Why did you choose your army? Sell me your Legion/Army, /hhg/

Sometimes you just wanna go fast.

HQ: Legio Custodes Tribune w/ Praesidium Shield, Cyber-Familiar, Digital Lasers, and Paragon Spear 270pt

Troops: Legio Custodes Guardian Squad of 4 210pt

Transport: Coronus Grav Carrier w/ Extra Armor 140pt

Troops: Legio Custodes Guardian Squad of 4 210pt

Transport: Coronus Grav Carrier w/ Extra Armor 140pt

Fast Attack: Legio Custodes Agamatus Jetbike Squad of 6 w/ 2 Corvae Las-Pulsars 500pt

Fast Attack: Legio Custodes Agamatus Jetbike Squad of 6 w/ 2 Corvae Las-Pulsars 500pt

Fast Attack: Legio Custodes Agamatus Jetbike Squad of 6 w/ 2 Corvae Las-Pulsars 500pt

Total = 2500 points

Mostly true but other people's comments on my list has got me to remove things and add other things. Problem is I get to emotionally attached to things. Other people saying things helps me evaluate what I want to build and what I could build instead. Being told to remove my tac squads has made me happy.

Still hearing things are fine makes me happy. I know armour is a problem but I guess I will struggle with it.

can tribunes take shields with spears?
I might be getting the 40k rules mixed up but I thought it explicitly said yuo couldnt do that

Very legal. You just don't get charging bonuses.

You're going to want a bunch of ravenwing parts. Engines from bikes, winged bits to match the Aquila look you're going for.

For the legs... Probably just look into truescale marine methods to extend biker marine legs a bit? Then add the thigh plates from the Custodes legs you aren't using because their upper bodies are on the bikes.

I meant with regards to the objectively bad stuff you like but is cool like the breachers in a none ZM game and the boarding shield on the praetor. It looks like a fun list though, to play and to play against. You considering changing anything further or is this your finished list?

>where can we get heavily armoured, oversized legs in a sitting/riding position
There is one possibility, but you're not going to like it...

Blood and Skulls Industry.

Nice! Shame I mostly play in a GW.

Sorta works, I think that would take a lot of conversion work and leave me with a bunch of riderless demigryphs for a game I don't play though.

Well it are the exact same models, I don't see the issue

With Arvus out of order for a moment, what would be some suitable replacement/count-as model?

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>it's totally stable on its flight stand I mathematically worked out the weight distribution so I'm getting fed up with people making stupid comments that it's going to fall over and crush my army so just stop making these sort of comments because the model is completely stable okay

Custodes sitting legs:

Remove biker leg below knee.

Remove Custodes legs above knee.

Combine carefully, use green stuff to fill gap if necessary.

Add thigh plates to biker legs.

Replace rear wheel of bike with some manner of engine, replace entire front of bike past the engine block with front of Eldar jetbike. Undersling a gun, then use either ravenwing parts or Vexilla parts to make the eagle on the bike's nose.

>See it even has room on top for 12 Hoplites

Ha.

That picture is so telling. Some one was self conscious enough about having to justify not having any resin in their army that they tried to adapt a paintjob meme to comparing finecast to the refreshed MkIII molds. Absolutely pathetic.

>then cry because it looks like shit.

Hah. I remember that guy. Did look a little precarious, I suspect he hadn't calculated shear forces from Unsupervised Gamestore Kids.
This is why the Whalebird will be low to the ground and on two or three stands, and the theoretical Manta may have a lockable platform that can be cranked up and down built into the bottom, even if it's not a beautiful transparent flying stand.

That number annoys me. It's just enough that not filling it feels like a waste but is way too few to justify another Hoplite kit. 10 should do the trick, at least.

Can't look worse than the official model.

>"Look, I'm not falling for that 'watch out, behind you!' crap again."

True.

Unless there are any ideas that grab be this might be done. The Praetor goes with the breachers by the way. They are his huge body guard. It should prove to be quite impressive looking.

But the model on the right is metal, so where exactly does the finecrap come in ?

>Also that captain model still is the most glorious example of MK III armour in existence to date. Wrong backpack but still

>absolute proof that people will buy anything FW puts out

ooor a bunch of potential mounts for counts as thunderwolves

I unfortunately have no way of seeing themirl and don't really trust shitty photos, do you think GW's plastic mk3 are noticeably worse then FW's? Which would you advise (without taking in account how pleb it is to have plastic in a hh army)

Do you guys ever use 40k Marines in "relic" armour, or parts from them, for your 30k stuff?

Like the captain in OPs image.

>themirl
What is this?

>do you think GW's plastic mk3 are noticeably worse then FW's?
Nah, I own both and the plastic MK3 is good, I prefer the whole kit except for the head (no sunken eyes and lack of bulk on the face plate) and backpack (big ass join line on the vents)

>taking in account how pleb it is to have plastic in a hh army
plastic HH armies aren't pleb as long as you are using era appropriate armour, and no your repurposed 40k Imperial Fist tac squads don't count

>how pleb it is to have plastic in a hh army
Friendly reminder that Alan Bligh uses GW plastics in his mechanicum army.

To be fair to the dude, as anyone who works with metal basing, tank traps or scaffolding will know, if he work it out, that think will be stupidly hard to knock over accidentally. But at that point it's so heavy I wouldn't want to put it on a game table for fear of the base flattening some ground texture.

Won't stop some kid in the store trying to wobble it or whatever.

Stupid idea all round.

What did I miss? Was someone using an xbox as a thunderhawk or something?

I would be careful saying stuff like "Plastic pleb" around here. There is a huge culture of people dismissing / shitting on / complaining about the most asinine things regarding FW's products:

>I don't like how they look anyway!!!
>They R Overpowers!
>Resin is hard~~
>FW send you broken stuff... I heard.. Once..

It is pretty much the tone of a lot of off-hand comments, and it's to make people feel better about the fact that they either cannot afford it, don't want to save up a little more then they already have, or know there is no point ruining stunning models with their god awful painting so just strip and respray their MkVII tactical marines for the third time. You will be absolutely pounded upon by VERY hysterical and reactionary people for pointing this out and denying them their usual rationalizations. We all know the vast majority of Forgeworld's product line is absolutely stellar and looks a billion times better if modeled, posed and customized in very minor ways than if someone chopped up a Ravenwing bike and glued a custodian ontop of it "Wah-lah".

In answer to your question, plastic is alright for what it is, and is generally better if kitbashed responsibly with resin. MkIII is, generally speaking, the best thing they have put out in plastic as the MkIV just looks like tactical marines from 40K. The biggest issue is they are fairly monopose and the seam along the top of the backpack is glaring, but can be fixed with confident / competent greenstuff / liquid greenstuff work.

As for advice.... If you were running only plastic MkIII in tacticals and all the rest of your army was brilliant conversions or just stock resin or good kitbashing (Resin Vehicles excluding Rhinos), then sure, go for it, no one would have any problem, especially if taking 20 man tacticals. FW is the way to go if you can do it though.

(See pic related, you can include plastic and make it look good, it is possible if done in moderation and with care)

No, but i DID once use a hasty spray painted cardboard box, and my erect penis as a make-do venator

What is that flyer on the right?

Plastic is alright, the main problem is the static legs

Bligh Grenade is pretty based.

Is there a pdf for book 7 inferno? or the Custodes/Sisters 30k list?

>thunder warriors driving themselves off a cliff

Well you could squeeze another pose out of the jetbike arm by replacing it with a custode spear arm like the Shield Captain has so it is upright....then slap a pennant on it

Can blackshield marauders mix regular bolters and pariah bolters or must every bolter be a pariah bolter if you want to use them?

read the fucking OP you retarded bastard, that stuff isn't there for fun

holy fuck FW Mk3's are shit always have been....they put the moldline smack dab in the back where the segmented armor is.

I did shitbird....I see nothing for book 7

then you are blind as fuck because I've just checked and it's there, no I won't show you because it's your punishment for being retarded.

Not that user, but here you go
mediafire.com/file/de3l5i29kn69n73/The Horus Heresy Book 7 - Inferno.pdf

Have fun.

Nothing says that you can't, I checked the marauders section and the pariah section and there is nothing to the effect of 'all models must replace blah blah blah'.

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>mediafire.com/file/de3l5i29kn69n73/The Horus Heresy Book 7 - Inferno.pdf
Thank you...you are pure class. To the shitbird...now my retarded ass has it where is that link? In the books first link has up to book 6 the second and third are the red books and the fourth White Dwarfs and comics books?

EHLP

Almost finished with muh story, on an Astartes battle-barge what is the title for the most senior mortal crewman that directs the ship? Isn't the Chapter Master the Captain?

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>>Rho Mu's Awesome Library of RULEBOOK AND NOVELS
>mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
here you go retard

Thanks Shitbird

Just wondering, I've never really played HH but what are Blackshield Marauders? They sound badass

np retard :)

Derrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Derrrrrrrrrrrrr

Shipmaster/Shipmistress

Marines who have left their legion and now fight as a separate warband. They can be either loyal, chaos/traitor or neutral. There are two big warbands mentioned so far, the Dark Brotherhood (pirate loyalists commanded by the scariest guy after Curze) and the Ashen Claws (angry Terran Raven Guard who buttraped the surviving Night Lords in the Nostromo sector).

What kind of insult is "shitbird". You're just joining random words, you pisstits

hey shut up cockdog

>Dark Brotherhood (pirate loyalists commanded by the scariest guy after Curze)
Are they the kind of Astartes the Imperium deserves but not the ones it needs right now?

Hey Nippledicks check out mu Custode

Says a penguinbutt

Now why the fuck would that post sideways....even my phone is retarded

That sounds really cool, there aren't any official models right? I'm guessing you'd just take any model

>1.8Mb sideways of a single model
Try again, tortoisedick

Nice digits....lets see if my phone is still retarded

Yup still tarded

Don't know what to tell ya hold your monitor sideways

Nephilim jetfighter, from the gw da range.

You said you had 10 free points before, you may as well buy arcane litanies for your praetor if you plan to do any casting with him. If he dies to a freak accident your army is totally fucked.

Dumb phoneposter newfag.

Paintjob is also kinda messy but ok.

You have never, EVER handled unpainted MkIII. That is simply not how those molds work.

Finished my autocannon marines. I have now painted all the power armoured marines from two BoP sets (I didn't buy custodes, or special characters).

I thought I removed that mould line...

>no "what have you done today"

I finished off some more old school model/art inspired DG. Than ran out of bits. Again.

Wait. And you didn't use MkIII backpacks?

5/10 you put in a bit of work but lacked vision.

>you didn't use MkIII backpacks

Why should I?

Beautiful. So much more lists should be cool stuff instead of optimizing and mathhammering every single point. Have a nice day, user.
Make them power pickelhaubes :^)
I remember a Necron Lord killing a Carnifex with his choppy hat. It was funny.

Because it's all about profile. If you look at a lot of the older HH art, before the marks were properly formalized and published, It all boiled down to weird variations on what looks like MKIII or versions of MKVI.

All the other backpacks look like 40k tactical marine backpacks and you don't get that Horus heresy era silhouette. The helmets on yours mitigate that a little. I think for what you really wanted to do, MKV legs, Mk4 torsos, MKII helmets, MkIII backpacks and shoulders with gloved hands, umbra and phobos bolters and bits shoved on.

I wish you'd used mk5-style torsos instead of the mk4 ones, since the chunkier cables are sexy.

Theses guys gonna be vets?

Is it black, or really dark dark steel?

>All the other backpacks look like 40k tactical marine backpacks and you don't get that Horus heresy era silhouette

By that logic vast quantities of HH art and models are invalid.

>I think for what you really wanted to do

I posted exactly what I wanted to do. MkIV (with MkVI style greaves and MkII style vambraces, as was the style at the time) with MkIII helmets. MkII helmets will go on MkIII bodies. MkV will follow old sketches that the Khorne Berserkers were based on.

Its okay mate, it's alright.

>mk5-style torsos

Don't want them to get mixed with MkVs and I like the plate that comes over the abdomen.

>Theses guys gonna be vets?

One of the tactical blobs.

If on iOS crop a hair off the image to fix rotation

I'm going to keep thinking about the idea of custom Custodes bikes from GW parts, but I'm definitely struggling on the front of the bike. As much as I was looking at various Eldar bikes for length, none of them have enough of a snub-nosed intake vent deal going on.

>What is this?
Them in real life
Thank you, i was just wondering if fw stuff was so overwhelmingly better detailed, but thank you for the in depth answers anyway.(also i was just memeing about the plastic pleb thing, i personally am among the people who prefer plastic stuff and think fw is slightly overpriced, especially if you consider how easy it is to find second hand gw stuff)

So no mixing bolters for marauders? Or does this only affect stuff from the legion army list?

Are you gonna get some Power Scythes for you dudes?