Has anyone used the Anvil Industries custom regiment builder? It seems a good option for basing conversions off, but what about build quality/delivery/ect. In the meantime kitbashed guard thread I guess.
As a sidenote, as someone who has almost exclusivley worked with plastic GW kits with some resin parts, what is the best way to handle full resin models in terms of building/painting. What are the common pitfalls.
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The FW Resins (Kriegers and Elysians) are true 28mm scale. That means while they'd fit right in with Perry and other Plastic Historicals, they look tiny next to the chunky Cadians and Catachans.
Bumping for interest, I'm considering getting a mob of Anvil guys.
Yeah, I noticed. FW models look neat and all but between the price point, rigidity and as you say the non-heroic scaling i'm gonna pass them up.
That said, the field artillery pieces look excellent.
I prefer actual scale models myself. The FW guys look right next to Space Marines, while the GW chunky fucks do not.
Are Anvil Industries models proper 28mm or chunky 28mm?
Well they are the ones in the OP picture. They are heroic scale chunky, but they don't suffer from the GW boxed cadian square-shoulder silly syndrome, it just makes them look hefty and armoured (at least as far as I can tell from images).
As neat as the thinner Kreigers look, I would rather avoid sacrificing cross-compatibility, although it was a close decision.
I bought some dudes from there recently and they're an absolute joy to work with. Gothic Void bodies, armoured limbs and medieval helms. Everything fits together real nicely, with the only trouble being fitting energy weapon backpacks onto the (plain backed) torsos. Very few outright flat surfaces, everything has a grove to fit into and it all joins up nicely. Almost no flash to clean up, either.
Gonna use as the house guard for a RT dynasty kill team. My only complaint is that the closest bolter looking gun isn't quite chunky enough.
Looking excellent, nice build work!
What kind of extra prep is required for working/painting resin? What would you recommend for someone looking to buy a set? And how posable/customisable are they out of the box?
You're meant to wash resin to get rid of any residue, though the dudes there were pretty immaculate right out of the packets. No holes to fill either (which I've had a little experience with when working with GW resin stuff). Do be careful about anything you file or cut. Resin is much softer than standard plastic the stuff is toxic. Work in a well ventilated area, probably should use a dust mask, etc.
As for posing, the legs are a single piece and the arms come in pairs that they recommend you use together. I have a few extra bits to convert with (see the dude without a helmet: swapped a hand so he's pointing), but you're largely looking at torso/head rotation and mixing up what combination of pieces you use.
In terms of buying, that depends on what you want to use them for. A 10 man squad is £27, but that's without adding on any special weapons, officer arms bits, etc. You're looking at a little over £30 for a standard guardsman squad, if that's what you're going for. There's options for buying in bulk, which nets you some reasonable discounts, but you are looking at stuff that's around 40-50% more expensive than conventional Cadians.
Thanks for the advice, was super useful. Will be putting in my order soon hopefully, trying to put together a bunch of heavily armoured shock/void suit soldiers. What glue did you use?
Bog standard super glue. Plastic glue doesn't work with resin.
Also, something I don't think they explicitly say, but the kits are very much designed to be compatible with GW kits. You'll need to remove a peg or two to glue them to flat surfaces, but they're ripe for kitbashing. Check out their blog and conversion corner for a few examples.
At the very least you'll be able to pop whatever GW heads you've got onto them, which will help if you want a good deal of variety when it comes to helmetless troopers. You can probably get away with throwing some female heads in there too, if that's your fancy. The armour is bulky enough to be form concealing without being too huge, like the GW Cadians are.
Questions basically answered, but final interest bump in hope of interesting kitbashes.
I've bought some guys to use for my guard and I really like their selection of parts. Tbough I would really like it if you could buy just single models for hqs
Has the officer in the front been painted, or is it made of something else?
Speaking of officers, is there somewhere to get decorative parts for captains, in the vein of the napoleon coat from the GW scion captain?
I preordered an infantry platoon. Quality is extremely good, details aren't as sharp as FW but the quality of the resin seems to be better and less brittle, no flash to speak of. Shipping is usually 1-2 weeks but ATM the owner of Anvil is on holiday/at some festival or something so if you order RIGHT NOW it'll be a bit of a wait.
Here's an old WIP shot of mine.
Damn, this thread is making me want to restart my project of medieval guard regiment.
Speaking of Perry historicals, I've been wanting to use their medieval miniatures to make an IG regiment. Does anyone make arms and sci-fi guns that would fit with them scale-wise?
I used a normal GW lasgun with my test model and it seems a bit large.
Are those your models in the image?
I started to paint him but the paints I bought are not very good and the closest place I think might sell them is a good $20-30 taxi ride away.
Alas no, I just found them on the internet and liked the style. Many years back I collected guard but did a terrible job of painting and modelling and eventually gave what I had to a friend - looking to get back into the hobby with a long-term project, hence asking about Anvil quality here.
It is probably cheaper to buy and strip guardsmen bought second hand, but if you want a guard army that isn't just another cadian regiment and still not expensive as forgeworld. I would recommend Anvil Industry.
Are there more 'alternate guard' manufacturers besides:
>Pig Iron
>Kromlech
>Anvil
>Victoria
?
In addition to anvil's mix and match guardsmen I recently discovered mad robot's ones in the awg pastebin:
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Don't seem to be as detailed as AWGs but the ability to build custom commissars makes me moist. Plus, LOOK AT THE FUCKING PANZER RUSS.
Puppetswar have a number of Not40k models, including NotGuard with different types of heads.
I've bought their commissar kit and I think its great. Very minimal flash, and almost no air bubbles, I'm probably going to order some of their heads pretty soon.
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Mad robot miniatures
They have a lot of good looking trenchcoats.
As I said above, the FW Krieger and Elysian Weapons will fit perfectly. GW Plastic Guardsmen are closer to 30mm scale than 28mm, and are far too big for Perry or any other Historical miniature.
Those helmet looks awesome. Man I miss my 40k minis and playing that game. Why's it gotta be so damn expensive??
Because when you're sinking dozens of hours into painting your little dudes it becomes real easy to justify spending money on them. And GW and its ilk know that.
That said, there are ways to get into 40k without having to spend hundreds of dollars. Shadow War: Armageddon is currently enjoying a great deal of interest and you only need a dozen or so models for that. There's also Kill Team (both regular and Heralds of Ruin), though games of those may be a little harder to come by. They enjoy a similarly small model count too. There might be groups that play those games in your area, so it's worth a look.
Does anyone besides Victoria make female guardsmen that don't look like complete arse?
>galvanic rifle with a pocket knife bayonet
>arc-grav combi
Looks like an Anvil energy weapon stuck on top, too.
I wonder how many people kitbash stuff together vs how many just buy whole models of 3rd party bits.
Can't speak for the regiment stuff, but I got kickstarter stuff from Anvil's Afterlife line, and I'm pleased with the quality of their sculpts and quality of the resin (esp. lack of air bubbles). Easy to work with (shave, trim and file), not 'glassy' and ridiculously fragile like some other places.
I assume their not-40k stuff is done with similar quality.
I'd happily buy more from them if I could afford it.
>Looks like an Anvil energy weapon stuck on top, too.
That's what I was referring to as the grav bit. Looks a bit like one. Or is is a not-meltagun?
Nah, this is what those look like. Not sure what that is now. Might be a cut down "phase rifle" (lasgun) from them. Certainly matches the colour of the other resin bits.
Does anyone know whether the Anvil MG42s interfere with the void torsos? It says that all specialist weapons do not fit with the default torso, but the 42 is a) much lower profile then most of them and b) allowed as a standard infantry weapon choice.
I'm assuming that they're talking about the back of the standard gothic void torsos. Those things have life support backpacks on them, and most special weapons are linked up to a backpack. That's why they sell a version without the life support backpack.
The MG42 has no backpack, so you should be good to go regardless of what type of torso you're using.
Any parts to make Felinids?
Thinking of starting a one off Armageddon team.
Ah, I see - I assumed that the bulged front on the suit would interfere with some of them.
Nah, you're good to go. Got some GV torsos myself and didn't have any difficulties with the weapon arms for both regular rifles and special weapons.
What're you looking to build? Something 40k related?
Shouldn't be too hard to greenstuff on ears to whatever heads you choose for them, and a tail. Don't know of any companies that make catgirl heads.
Good luck googling catgirl heads without finding ultraweeby garbage though.
Heys IG anons. Newfag looking to start a guard team, mainly for SWAG. I want to make drookian fen guard or steel legion. Is my best bet Victoria miniatures?
If you're after Drookian Fen Guard then Victoria is the way to go. Expensive, but the look is spot on.
Steel Legion is more of a throw up. Anvil does something pretty close (stahlhelm with gasmask, greatcoat body and legs of your choosing, fatigue arms), though if you want to get the helmet look just right you'll need to trim the extra detail off the helmets. Of course, the alternative is GW's own metal minis, which are limited and will require converting to get the weapon options you want.
There may be other options out there, of course. Googling for steel legion alternatives should yield some results.
Mad Robot Miniatures has some "Shocktroops" that might do the job.
A quick look around myself has suggested Wargames Factory Greatcoat infantry, though they don't seem to be on sale anywhere at the moment.
Here. It's the quake cannon (aka. not-grav) part of their combi-bolter kit. The muzzle really reminded me of grav-guns, but it was the drum on the side that threw me off, since it was similar to what you usually see on meltas.
Forgot image.
That's a funny looling Kharadron.
I have done a head swap for my Praetorians, a bit of work when positioning the head and the Perry Head looks good IMO. When in a big group (only way you'll see them anyway) you can't tell its a bit too small. In fact I think they have a bit better proportion than the manlet cadians.
My non-wargamer friends think they look short, but thought the stock cadians looked worse in that regard.
Currently have two platoons built and only that one guardsman painted (early days).
Head swap or hand swap are the only things i can see working with them (stuff I have done looks alright). Bodies and arms etc are way way too small.
They look like they have Down Syndrome...
The faces are fine. Not lookers, but distinctive. The torsos are a total shitshow. Chunky flak aesthetics, but with individualocal breast shapes. Like, what were they going for?
I have used
>Bits of War
>Puppets War
>Anvil Industry
Anvil Industry and Bits of War have been great. I don't use guardsmen though, but I have used the veteran heads with berets and gas masks from Anvil Industry for my Space Marine Scouts.
They were delivered in like 2 weeks I think, and were pretty decent quality. The fit is ok too
you have to wash resin? like with water?
Honestly I am not happy with my purchase from Puppetswar.
It came in a shitty envelope, the heads and parts were not on a sprue they were just sort of in a little baggie, and they seem to have a lot of flash on em.
With water. The casting process can leave a powdery residue that'll fuck up your undercoating.
Shame, haven't had opportunity to try them myself.