I'm sorry, but it's true. I don't want to sound like I'm reminiscing about some golden age, but we used to be much more interesting and creative back in the day.
I mean, just remember how many content we've had produced before. Daily!
>Love can bloom
>Oinkbane
>Angry marines (fuck off, they were good)
And what do we have now? Has Veeky Forums produced anything worthwile at all in the last two years?
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Angry Marines where fun, but not good.
It's a known issue.
Half of it is being less negative and cynical, half of it is encouraging creative types to be creative.
People used to be more easily impressed, maybe too easily. Nowadays on the other hand, Veeky Forums's mostly just filled with people competing to see who is the least impressed with everything.
Alright, user, I was like you once, fresh off the boat from 1d4chan. The harsh reality is that these people are quite creative... but ultimately they're a bunch of lazy sheep. I've started projects, gotten much enthusiasm about them, gave everyone the tools they needed to add more details, and then... I wasn't able to get on for a week, and the project just died without me.
Same thing happened with Love and Krieg 2.0... without the one person the project hinges on, the board just falls back into mundane atrophy.
Daily reminder
I got banned several times during the Nazimod days for making RPGs, but the current ban on quest threads on this board really hurt board creativity. In the past, when someone came up with a fun concept for a game, they could run a quest on Veeky Forums and try it out with a large crowd of people who were eager to participate.
Now the hurdle of gathering potential players is so much higher because the people who are interested in roleplaying games are not on the board where the roleplaying games are allowed.
>>Oinkbane
Please fuck off. That was dumb forced shit, and people forcing that kind of shit is what drives people away from wanting to contribute, because better things get swept under the rug by people who think that they can just spam shit into place regardless of how little merit it has.
>Nowadays on the other hand, Veeky Forums's mostly just filled with people competing to see who is the least impressed with everything.
You don't sound particularly impressed by the current state of Veeky Forums
I liked the East vs West and -4 str era.
Back then a generic discussion about dragon hoard could (d)evolve to something weird about magpie Rocs and the richest giant duck in the world.
>And what do we have now?
suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com
Fuck off, mate. Veeky Forums was ALWAYS good.
Not gonna lie, these made me think a lot more than I thought they would.
Think I'm gonna try to be more positive on this board
>Tfw I was in the tic-tac-toe thread at the beginning.
Lower right corner.
Town Map was fantastic
The MAID storytime was excellent and deserves more recognition. Shame the guy never finished it proper.
The Reverse Monster Thread is one of the better threads ive seen in a while. Lots of creativity there
I know how you feel. In the first Kulmorost divided thread, I made the suggestion of the Lustian invasion, and people actually liked the idea. That was when I slowly stopped lurking and slowly started to post more. I'm going to try my part in helping make this board a little more positive.
>daily
m8
Calculating how many spiders can fit in vagina or the DC check to crawl inside your own ass never was impressive.
Let's everyone who reads this thread and wants to make Veeky Forums the best it can be resolve to do two things:
1. Create! Share our creativity!
2. Support! When user posts a genuinely innovative thread or (more often) a run of the mill thread veers an interesting way, support, flesh out, extend, contribute, praise, or at least find a charming way to bump.
That will be exceedingly difficult.
And your shitty metathread helps how? Especially since there already is one up over at
not really, it's pretty simple actually
Even if you don't have particularly good writing talents you can always just make a bit of a game out of it, like those "we make settings one word at a time" or whatnot
>and your shitty metathread helps how?
I dunno seems like a few anons actually seem to appreciate it and have stated their intentions to be more creative
Veeky Forums historically welcoming attitude, alongside some screencaps going viral (e.g. Sir Bearington) ended up attracting hordes of redditors (any general is choke-full of them).
Redditors are physically unable to being creative.
That's easy, but what if another board invades?
You can't tell me Veeky Forums hasn't fallen victim to /pol/ and /v/, on occasion.
My opinion on that sort of thing? Roll with it.
Sure it might be frustrating to see a decent idea go completely crazy and meme filled, but at the same time, follow it and see where it goes, it might just lead to something fun and if not, what stops you from trying again?
>MUH QUESTS
If quests were a one-shot/one-thread kind of things nobody would have really had any problems with them. You faggots got too greedy, and I'm glad you got punished for your hubris.
I concur. If the thread becomes filled with memes, we can still find the diamonds in the rough.
I wish that those threads that were more like original games rather than interactive fanfiction weren't considered quest.
Does anyone know if that guy who was making a whole MTG plane would fall under quest?
I disagree, there is absolutely no need for any of that.
Ban writefaggotry. Ban CYOA threads. Ban 40k faction group generation. Ban storytelling.
Only generals and art dumps from now on.
>If quests were a one-shot/one-thread kind of things nobody would have really had any problems with them. You faggots got too greedy, and I'm glad you got punished for your hubris.
Would you still be upset about quest threads on Veeky Forums if Moot hadn't ruled that all anime quests had to be on Veeky Forums instead of /a/?
Speaking of CYOAs, why didn't they get the heave-ho with the rest of the forum games when /qst/ started?
>it's another meta-complaining episode on Veeky Forums
Can we fucking not?
Because there are only 2 CYOA threads up at a time. CYOA general and Jumpchain.
They aren't quest threads and aren't as annoying because there aren't 15 of them up at a time.
Here's the thing, everyone hated quests. /a/ and /co/ especially wanted them gone. And because Veeky Forums couldn't make the noise that other boards, especially /a/, could we got stuck with them. Here they were fairly tolerated, the hate kicked into overdrive when the /a/ questfags came over with their fanbases. The /co/ quests were cringeworthy, but even drek like Teen Titans Quest looked better than the waifu harem quests and Bromont's shit that migrated from /a/.
>Thread generally seems to be preaching positivity rather than wallowing in nostalgia or self pity like usual.
>Ugh, can we not?
>I'm sorry, but it's true. I don't want to sound like I'm reminiscing about some golden age,
Well you're off to a shit start.
In all seriousness, I do think Veeky Forums has a little problem with being a not too savage but too dismissive. Too much is considered total shit or un-salvageable, but I don't think we're actually in that sorry a state as cheerily indicates. We could do with a little less polarisation and being a bit more forgiving but otherwise it's still the best place on the net for what we do.
AYOL HOL UP *smacks lips*
YOU BE SAYIN
WE WUZ CREATIVE AND SHIT ?
On a serious note ffs
>Love can bloom
>Angry marines
You call this creative ? At the very least come up with some of the less cancerous things Veeky Forums has created. Those two are one of the easily spotted and one of the most cancerous , non-creative pieces of waste ever created. You are clearly a newfag taht is posting as an oldfag.
Because everybody involved in making that board that nobody wanted except people who wouldn't have to deal with it were incredibly inconsistent in their specification for what a quest was.
I wouldn't be surprised if their only criteria was if it had "quest" in the title.
>there aren't 15 of them up at a time.
Nice meme
No, we cannot. Everything that needed to be said was already said by these two: Those that are receptive to it will see it and try to improve. But to others, their words, like silent raindrops fall And echo in the wells of silence.
At least he didn't cite true turds like Harem Knights, Lilium, or the Unified Setting for Veeky Forums.
Or the Reasonable Marines.
I mean, I used to browse this board from basically its first few years and yeah it used to be somewhat more creative I don't feel like it was a lot more than it is now, but to be frank I stopped browsing regularly a year or two ago so I can't say for sure.
However, while I feel that the board honestly wasn't a lot more creative than it is now, albeit still somewhat more creative, I'm pretty sure that over time the board has gotten immensely more hostile than it used to be. All the boring-ass smut aside I used to almost feel excited to be immersed in a community like Veeky Forums which was so focused on fun and merriment.
What probably caused the situation the board is in now, though, was that shitty nazimod or whatever people used to call him. That shit straight up killed the board culture.
I'd actually argue that the development of technology was far more to blame. Veeky Forums is far more accessible than it was back then, so in that respect, the "Super Seekrit Klub" meme is almost true. A smaller, more dedicated community who deliberately chose to be a part of Veeky Forums and Veeky Forums rather than the more passive, but larger community we have now.
They can be greater turds but if it has dwindled in popularity due to time it is not worth mentioning in the first place.
LCB and AM are both shit and popular, so popular that cancerous video game producers and writers decided to try and force them into the universe lore. That is why they deserve a bigger hate.
>pic relevant
>Here's the thing, everyone hated quests. That's why they were so numerous and popular.
There might be something to that now that you mention it, a larger community isn't going to be as close knit and Veeky Forums sure has grown over the years. Not that I suppose Veeky Forums ever was a total super seekrit klub but you know.
Generals are a blight on every single board. They're a cancer that does nothing but stifle creativity and act as tripfag/reddit spawning grounds.
That said, even if you banned generals on every board, the damage is already done.
>If quests were a one-shot/one-thread kind of things nobody would have really had any problems with them
Agreed, but as is usual when people come up with an original idea they milk it until it is dead.Some stories should end sooner rather than later, but no you have to milk it to the point is is neither original nor interesting anymore.
If you ask me (which nobody did but fuck you)
It's because of the attitude of
>we want summa dat good shit
>but not any uh dat bad shit
That's not how it works, you fag enabling fruitcakes, you have to accept the bad and the good or you get nothing.
Or even worse, if you don't like it but other people do like it.
While I think the /qst/ split was the right thing to do, I'll never understand why people look at it like questfags weren't members of Veeky Forums, I see people using wording that implies that Veeky Forums unanimously hated quests, when clearly they didn't, because quests were on Veeky Forums so who the fuck is posting them/participating other than fellow fa/tg/uys? Also, I find it hard to believe that we got rid of all the Questfags. Sure they might not go by that anymore, but most of them were on this board for more than quests alone in all likelyhood, and theoretically they'd stick around for the same stuff after the split as well
When learning about the Civil War nobody says "America won" or "Everyone in America hated the South"
Quests needed to go, but Questfags don't, because most Questfags belong on Veeky Forums
I disagree, if you ban generals everyone who wants to talk about something or ask a basic question about one setting makes a seperate thread.
This way when people want to talk 40k, they go to 40k general rather than clutter the board with tens of useless threads made up of 1-2 replies.
I mean you can argue about sementics of quest from other boards being kicked on to Veeky Forums and the people following them being fa/tg/uys and all that. IIRC that's what happened anyhow. Not that I disagree, I didn't minded quest threads or the people in them, there was just too much of it choking up the board.
This. Generals are true cancer. Don't believe me? Go to Veeky Forums sometime. It's like reddit and autism had a hatebaby.
Oh, that's easy.
The staunch defenders of quests spent almost all their time around other staunch defenders. Thus, their perception is that Veeky Forums is overwhelmingly in favor.
Those staunchly against quests spent almost all their time around others who were staunchly against. Thus, their perception is that Veeky Forums is overwhelmingly against.
In my eyes the main problem is whenever someone posted some shit here the main reaction was "alright, how could we make this work?" or "how could we make this fun?"
Now it's mostly calling each other autist and reporting the shit out of everything.
I would say we are still just as creative as in the past but simply we choose not to use that creativity for whatever reason
It's not a question of being less creative. We have a productivity "problem".
Do we still have those make your own rpg in a day threads?
Yeah, we had one a few weeks ago. And we have world building one sentence at a time threads all the time.
That's better than the alternative where people constantly bump generals with nothing but garbage and constantly make new generals because they feel the need to keep their forced conversation going. Every single general has the same first 30 posts every single thread.
"first for x" etc etc
Not to mention that it fuels the hell out of tripfag and attention whoring culture which attracts redditors like flies to honey.
Speaking of which, we should ban epic Veeky Forums screencaps so funny hahaha threads.
No, we need generals on Veeky Forums like said (checked).
If we didn't then we'd have a million threads with only a few replies.
In fact, these generals aren't even close to cancer. If you want true cancer go look at /ps2g/ in Veeky Forums.
When a general gets to the point of pure shitposting, that's when it needs to be banned.
>pic very related
Generals have to exist because Veeky Forums is no longer a monogame board. Early Veeky Forums was all 3.5, 40k, and Magic with a few outliers. They also severely curbed edition warring which is a blessing not very many anons seem to appreciate.
Like the /wst/ and ERP Generals
It is easier to filter out one containment thread than 10-12 threads that will be made.
Protip: if you want to see more cool shit on Veeky Forums, or even on Veeky Forums in general, use paged browsing, not catalog browsing. A lot of the cool stuff on Veeky Forums has historically resulted from, shall we say, "productive derails". If you use catalog browsing, you don't get to see where a thread is headed, only where it began.
If you're looking for a specific thread like a general, a promised storytime, or an older thread to come back for (You)s, use the catalog. If you're just wondering if there's anything cool on Veeky Forums right now, flip through the pages. Turning off "automatically load more" may make this less overwhelming. Don't forget that you can expand threads to display hidden posts without loading a new page!
Quests were on Veeky Forums not because Veeky Forums liked it, but because they got banned from other boards to Veeky Forums, m8.
Hm, I guess I'm really unlucky and keep missing them. I always had a lot of fun in those, even if they were typically "everyone posts but no one reads"
Nah. We're making enough stuff that none of it is getting the attention needed for it to become a meme. People were saying this stuff smack dab in the early age of veloCITY, when Night Shift had like 13 machine-gunned threads. We did the anti-sue forum raid as a nation of fire- worshippers before sues ruined it. Any one of those would have been comparable to Live and Kreig or angry marines ( two of them ARE more well- known than oinkbane) if the community were content- starved enough to fixate on them.
Speaking of raids, I really wanted the Drowtales raid to go off. It is too bad Veeky Forums needs the instant gratification that hiding out until your account is approved required.
Blame reddit and people thinking being 'nerdy' is cool while all they do is spout shitty meme and reheated ideas.
A fair amount of loss in creativity can be linked to "been there, done that" situations.
Consider how many times we have had "Can character X survive in the 40k universe?" "Stat Me (random character who gained a sudden boost in popularity)" and "Why does (female class) wear slutty clothes?" threads.
We end up retreading a lot of old ground.
Jumpchain is possibly the most cancerous fanfic shit imaginable. It's the sort of Gaia Online "sephiroth and the dragon balls" stuff that used to be posted in u raff u roose / cringe threads
Is reddit the reason as to why I'm noticing more aggressive posters calling others (and myself) faggots because I'm actually trying to have a conversation and not resort to name calling or badly typed arguments. Or is that Veeky Forums in general now?
If they echo then they're not silent you undeservedly pretentious fuck.
When the Civil War, the north won and the confederacy was absorbed back into the union. The opposite happened here -- the antiquestfags won and quests were ousted from the board.
I hated MOST quests, but I was sad to see them go, because it meant that the probability of there being another great Veeky Forums quest, no matter how miniscule it was before, had dropped to zero. That's not victory over the cancer, that's admitting defeat to the cancer.
This is very good advice, considering the best most creative Veeky Forums threads are usual derails. No more catalog for me!
As one of the individuals that led the Drowtales raid, it didn't help that the owners of the forum literally stopped approving profiles for an entire fucking year because of the raid.
We were civil enough that they couldn't ban us, so they got around it by being so fucking lazy that they didn't approve profiles for twelve months.
Actually it is PC that is killing Veeky Forums, that and SFW-shit.
Veeky Forums was always pretty lewd and the only people who were against it were mods and janitors who were massive faggotrons anyway so no one cared.
Now it has become so goddamn bad that anything that makes another user slightly uncomfortable because he is a insecure walking mangina is suddenly MAGICAL REALM.
Remember we used this for blatantly forced fetishshit in games and suddenly magical pissforest are on the same level as "my player roleplays a little girl how to I get rid of him" or "this grognard fuck is making advances towards my NPCs with his character, please save me from his fetishes".
The reason Veeky Forums has been on a downward spiral when it comes to quality for years is because we slowly getting gentrified by normalfags and redditors which on the other hand drives away the weird, the perverted and the downright disturbing.
You want to now why creativity is dead? Because it is happening all over Veeky Forums and the reason for this is more and more retarded rules which stifle creative environment.
Political Correctness and Social Justice are killing Veeky Forums and some of the best content created on Veeky Forums always was because people weren't afraid to be called THATGUYS or HURRDURR MAGICAL REALM.
Veeky Forums collects bitter people with no direction in their life and all the passionate people that enjoy being creative move on to other places. The older Veeky Forums gets the less creative the general population will be by the number.
This is probably true. Creativity and magical realm go hand in hand. The entire Renaissance? Bunch of creepy dudes expressing their fetishes.
Greeks? Greeks Hue hue hue..
Fucking step up to the plate yourself, then. Don't bitch about it, do something of note.
This all the way. If we shout down anything new and exciting because it might make some loser's pussy hard, we miss out on that element of disgusting boner-fueled gonzo fantasy action
>muh SJW and PC boogeyman
Yes, user. The politics are devote yourself to demonizing are responsible for everything wrong with Veeky Forums right now, despite the fact that right now, they have less power over Veeky Forums than they've ever had since its creation.
You can't browse a single semi-popular board without seeing at least one active "fuck the SJW" thread. You can't mention social justice or political correctness without someone going on a rant about them. You can't mention Indians without 'poo in the loo,' you can't mention black people without 'we wuz kangz,' you can't have woman be the focus of a topic on Veeky Forums without '-4 str' coming up. If these extremely popular memes aren't the antithesis of SJW and PC thinking, I don't know what is.
You don't get to play the underdog anymore. You don't get to pretend that you're the attacked minority. You don't get to act as though you're desperately in need of aid because you're on the losing side. You're not. You don't get to bitch and whine about political correctness or social justice warriors anymore because you've got them on the defensive now, you've bloodied their nose and beaten them back and now they've got virtually no power here. So stop pretending that they're this massive threat to the Veeky Forums way of life because they've already come and gone. You're the establishment now. The anti-PC brigade is in charge at this very moment. You're the ones winning the culture war, you're the ones that are dominating Veeky Forums culture. The dark lord's been defeated, the crusade's been won. Stop trying to rally people to fight against a foe that stopped being relevant almost a year ago.
Was it the one with the turbolesbian and the butler who didn't give a single fuck?
Those threads didn't get nearly enough recognition. Never thought I'd read a story about a butler waterboarding a rich French kid in his own fountain before.
A made a post about some 40k homebrew and ended up having to close the google doc to comments because some jackass decided he was going to spend 3 hours vandalizing it starting the moment I posted the link. Thats a problem
i get banned for posting on Veeky Forums about 10x more than from any other board (well maybe more than that since i hardly ever get banned in other boards so maybe its infinitely more)
its literally a reddit circlejerk on Veeky Forums
Different user, but you totally didn't read his post. He's not complaining about "SJWs" as in liberals, but as anti-lewds.
>When you're so tumblr, you see whining about SJWs when there's none
Jesus Christ.
>Quests were on Veeky Forums not because Veeky Forums liked it, but because they got banned from other boards to Veeky Forums, m8.
What about all the quests that started on Veeky Forums years before they got popular elsewhere
Or do those not count because reasons
>You can't browse a single semi-popular board without seeing at least one active "fuck the SJW" thread. You can't mention social justice or political correctness without someone going on a rant about them. You can't mention Indians without 'poo in the loo,' you can't mention black people without 'we wuz kangz,' you can't have woman be the focus of a topic on Veeky Forums without '-4 str' coming up. If these extremely popular memes aren't the antithesis of SJW and PC thinking, I don't know what is.
Which happens because you have 5 people in a thread whining about /pol/ for no fucking reason.
No fucking wonder the other tards go full FUCK THE SJW you delusional autist. The PC-Brigade created the very devil they were bitching about because you just could not stop bitching about sexism, racism etc. And now look at the shit we have to deal with.
>You don't get to play the underdog anymore. You don't get to pretend that you're the attacked minority. You don't get to act as though you're desperately in need of aid because you're on the losing side. You're not. You don't get to bitch and whine about political correctness or social justice warriors anymore because you've got them on the defensive now, you've bloodied their nose and beaten them back and now they've got virtually no power here. So stop pretending that they're this massive threat to the Veeky Forums way of life because they've already come and gone. You're the establishment now. The anti-PC brigade is in charge at this very moment. You're the ones winning the culture war, you're the ones that are dominating Veeky Forums culture. The dark lord's been defeated, the crusade's been won. Stop trying to rally people to fight against a foe that stopped being relevant almost a year ago.
If that would be somehow the case then people wouldn't whine every time about /pol/ now would they? On what fucking logic do you even operate? This isnt even denial, its straight up delusion you show here.
those don't count because they actually belonged on Veeky Forums.
>(to be determined)
What happened?
Umm... he said SWF, not SJW.
the content creators have already been driven away because of sjw shit and constant bans. Veeky Forums will never be creative again. its like thinking ytmnd will start to be funny and creative again one day, its a pipe dream
What the fuck is even the qualifier for "belonging on tg?"
"Traditional Games" isn't exactly something that is restricted to certain genres. In fact, last time I checked, it's absolutely everything so long as it's in the structure of a tabletop game.
Buddy you're one to speak about straight up delusion.
Shortly after that chart ends is when m00t decided, in his infinite faggotry, to listen to the autistic screeching of /a/ and declare all quests be moved to Veeky Forums. Thus the floods of shit like Mahou Shonen Butler Quest and flood of Strike Witches related content.
>I give up because I cannot refute any of your points
Fair enough.
Quest threads fucked up Veeky Forums. It was around the time we got zerged with the shitty threads (Rubyquest was fine etc) that were Thread 223 of DBZ quest - the same shit as always- that all the creative people jumped shit.
Wasn't worth being on Veeky Forums on a friday night to talk about shit or invite randoms to your D&D game when you have no chance of your thread being front page for 3 seconds as a bunch of CYOA threads knock it off (even tho they were all utterly fake and made to be 'entertaining').
I blame Plague for inviting the lurbo spergs.
No. It's because all the good fa/tg/uys left after there was no point making threads. Especially since people were stealing the ideas for youtube videos like Spoony.