Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>2d6 still in
>rangedunits can multi-overwatch now
>ranged units can just walk away now
>ranged units can shoot you with pistols after you charge them now
Might as well squat all melee units at this point.

Because /40kg/ is inherently challenged by language.

The fuck even is a "blacked"? Do you just hate black people so much that their mere appearance in an advert is comedy to you?

Which book will you get first?

But melee is too hard for little Timmy to fight with his new Ultra UltraSigmarines, and ensuring little Timmy has fun with his new toys is the most important thing.

Are 3 Units in checkerboard formation unbeatable now ????

>being this much of a newfag
>black "people"
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Thanks mate. That model combines my two fetishes. Chicks in armor and buff chicks.

Are you all ready for your existing Space Marinelet armies to get treated like 3rd rate also ran armies in favor of the Numarines?

Are you ready for all your Xenos factions to get lumped into one book and barely get updates because they don't sell enough to justify making new models in plastic?

Are you ready for MAXIMUM casualization of the rules to get more little Timmy's through their demo games and sell them an army of NuMarines?

Then Age of Gulliman is for you!

>Haha! Races! I am a wit!

>being a drooling retard
BLACKED is a porn site devoted to interracial porn

>First for plastic sisters of battle

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHA. NOT A FOOKIN CHANCE.

Holy shit.

>Sons of Gulliman are the most focused on faction
>Chaos will only get Death Guard and then World Eaters, Khorne Daemonkin 2.0, Sons of Khorne and more Khorne shit
>Xenos will be forgotten and no one gives a fuck about them

No

>being this BLACKED by your superior Nu Goyims Cuckshop masters
YES GOYS, GOOD... GOOD...

>Crisis sluts

>"Yeah guys, close combat is going to be viable again!"

>Unlimited overwatch
>Get shot by pistols even when locked in
>Enemy unit can just walk away at any point

Say hello the New Games Workshop (tm), same as the old Games Workshop.

Reminder, The design studio has utterly despised all of the following for multiple editions:

- Tyranids
- Orks
- Chaos Space Marines
- Dark Eldar
- Assault
- Competitive play

And has spent 2+ editions making them worse at every opportunity. Why would you expect any of this to change? How many times will you have to get slapped around before you admit the reality of the situation?

Go back to pol scumfuc

I just ordered £60 worth of Warmachine models.

You have no IDEA how ready I am for an actually balanced, engaging game with much less developer bias.

You guys are all going to feel real fucking stupid tomorrow when it turns out that Assault armies are going to absolutely butcher most others. Remember that a failed Morale test now results in extra casualties (based on how many you lost by), not a fall-back move.

>REEEEE REEEEEE /POL/ /POL/ /POL/

Lol I play competitive warmachine and this is the worst time ever to pick the game.
Its more imbalanced than it ever was

Probably shouldn't have picked Warmachine, then

Did Pathfinders models get changed in the big Tau update, and if so, what's the difference between the new and old box?

I don't wanna buy the old ones on accident if there's a difference.

>charger always hits first
>variable movement speed
>99.99% of 1" added to all charge distances

For melee armies it's not all good but it's not all bad.

Yeah, at the expense of no more sweeping advance it is a straight nerf.

>playing Warmashit

But the guys in melee can also shoot their pistols at the closet unit while in close combat.

Y'know what would have been a much better change for Over watch? Making it so you could only Overwatch with pistols.

Maybe throw Tau a bone by having Pulse Carbines count as pistols for that, since nobody takes them anyway and they're designed for close quarters

>You have no IDEA how ready I am for an actually balanced, engaging game with much less developer bias.
>Warmachine

You have fucked up now

Should've picked Star Wars Armada instead (avoid X-Wing at all costs however)

I think its the same kit and sprue. Its Fire warrior that got the bit changes

This is an idea I had for muh homebrew chapter fluff.
A bullpup bolter with an integrated, not just attached/underslung, chainsword used by Assault Marines of my tacticool ranged SM.
>longer barrel for additional power at point blank range, before the bolter jets kick in
>chainsword for dispatching weaker enemies, cutting up huge Xenos and it's better than just a bolter if they are caught by surprise
>the unique ergonomics and balance redistribution allow for easy one hand firing if need be
>mostly I just like bullpups

Any thoughts on my shitty sketch or the idea itself?

>Charge unit
>Either you wipe it out, finish it off through Battleshock, or it moonwalks out of close combat in the opponent's turn
>Assaulting unit gets shot to death by opponent's army

There's no way to hide in close combat any more. Shooting units can happily deploy a screen of chaff to take initial charges, then regardless of if they're wiped, break, or just fall back, the meat of the army can mow the attacking units down.

>Maybe throw Tau a bone

Overwatch is thematic. What percent of 40k art consists of something comparable to overwatching a charging unit? It's like half.

>Unlimited overwatch
Overwatch is worse now because you actually get armor saves against infantry guns.

Well the old pathfinders are metal and the new ones are plastic. So if you buy plastic you're not going wrong.

We might get female marines and plastic Hrud before that.

Now we just hope that at least Assault can happen out of a deepstrike or transport

Can you guys please stop talking about Overwatch? Fucking Blizzdrones and your stupid Mobashooter trash.

What emotion are those expressionless faces on the sisters suppose to convey?

The emotion of 「かわいいですね?」

>99.99% of 1" added to all charge distances
But that's wrong. Even if, as we discussed in the last thread, the within is strictly true rather than weakly true that means that you would get 1" - ε.

>sweeping advance
Did you come straight from fourth to eight edition?

Just think about this for a second. Space Marines are the golden goose for Gw. Without them, and their sales, GW would literally have ceased to exist already. (I'm not kidding, the numbers released during the Chapterhouse Studios lawsuit showed the tactical marine box outselling entire other armies).

For Games Workshop to literally risk killing the golden goose by alienating Space Marine players with the introduction of super space marines is actually a bit worrying. Either they are truly desperate or they have simply concluded that there is literally no limit to how much they can cuck their players, and they believe they can get a significant proportion of their playerbase to rebuy their entire SM armies in Numarines.

Now consider that it is in GW's financial interest to only produce new kits in plastic that will sell in large volumes, and you can foresee that they will probably minimize their investment into Xenos armies because they can make a far better return on investment on Numarine kits or Chaos Numarine kits than on re-doing any of the old Xenos armies.

You can expect GW to minimize their investment into new model kits for anything but the most popular armies and just update their rules and keep selling the old models instead. That's far cheaper for them since their rules staff is literally 5 college interns making minimum wage + Jervis now.

The emotion of getting BLACKED

This. Assault is fucking dead, I feel bad for Nid players.

>completely take away overwatch from the army that focuses on overwatch
>give them a little back i guess
>UGHHH BUFFING TAU SELECTIVE READING

>GW takes a creative risk with the space marines factions
>Veeky Forums finds a way to turn this into a bad thing

It's okay, we've all stopped playing by now anyway. Time to look for a new game, I guess.

The creative risk being? Bigger marines?

Creative risk would be releasing plastic SoB or a non human army like Hrud or another plague like xeno

Someone needs to photoshop that ultra nigger in his place.

>yes gue'la! rebuy your entire space marine collection! good gue'la!

The creative risk being alienating the owners of their most popular army?

Why isn't the hipster shaved sides haircut standard Sisters canon by now? This is the biggest reason they need new models, damnit.

so do the new charge rules mean you get to move your charge distance even if you don't make it? Like, if I need to charge 7 and only roll 5, can I move 5 inches towards my target?

>mfw butthurt leftists are still giving BLACKED user (you)s
You're doing God's work my man.

I'll reserve judgement until we see how the fight subphase works.

I can't really see them shitting on Nids any longer. I want them to make a come back, because I'm sick of fighting fucking Tau, Eldar and Space Marines.

New models for the popular army. That doesn't eliminate the previous models.

Yah right. If it is marines it is not risky, it is like releasing a shooter with a different skin.

Does anyone know where I can get a pdf of dead men walking? I've searched google and the megas but haven't found anything.

Seems like it. It does remove those weird cases where your chargers will run 11 inches, decide it's too far, then run back.

It also might result in cases where you're caught in the open after a failed charge though

Never forget that now even /tv/ is saying that /pol/ is always right.

it's okay we are used to being buttraped by GW

I wanna pet that cheetah

Reminder that every 2D6 roll we've learned about so far would be better houseruled to 1D6

>Psychic powers as (D6 + mastery level - spell level), perils on total result of 1 or lower, passes on 4+
>Charge distance as movestat + D6 inches

Man, i almost feel sorry for melee armies.
Nah, they can eat a bag of dicks.
Can't wait till i can blast my dumb friend chaos demons with my viable imperial guard. How do you like aoslike summoning you dumb faggot?

You sound like an absolute delight to play against.

When in doubt, throw two dice at it and call it fixed.

So let's recap, if you play an assault army

you get shot until you are in charge range
get shot when you charge
get shot in combat by pistols
get shot on your opponents turn when they withdraw their engaged unit

all for a measly one turn of close combat attacks against the enemy.

When you pretend to be retarded, the retards come to think they're in good company

Based GW making plasma pistols viable

As if people with melee armies will even play the game after this.

Enjoy fighting Tau, Eldar and all 6 trillion flavors of Marines and Numarines for the rest of your life.

GW has spent 2+ editions showing you at literally every opportunity that they hate assault armies and want to nerf them out of existence.

Don't act surprised now. This is the future you chose.

and just when I started making an ork army

>you get shot until you are in charge range

Isn't new.

>get shot when you charge

Isn't new.

>get shot in combat by pistols

This is effectively not new, because it almost certainly replaces the extra melee attack for pistol + CC.

>get shot on your opponents turn when they withdraw their engaged unit

As opposed to getting shot on your opponents turn when the unit you charged are all dead or failed leadership from all dying.

>Fall back in the movement phase
>Still somehow locked in close combat to shoot with pistols
>One round of attacks

???

Well finally. I mean GW themselves puked out the fluff that all smegmarines are recruited from all races and genders before being brainwashed and put into OC doughnutsteel armour. That they then proceeded to only make big, muscular, bland, whitewashed models for then was just pathethic. If stigmarines had troops in all the shapes and sizes of the warhammer world upon reveal I might have actually liked them a little.

>cuck still anally anihilated
My sides

>most fun conversions possible for dioramas/units
>worst army to play
you know what to do.

Give it downsides aside from manufacturing difficulties.

Yep. That's pretty much it, from what we know. I always liked how tar pitting was a viable strategy, but that's gone now.

Who knows. Maybe this will be better?

They never said sigmarines are recruited from all races. It's always been only humans.

Im still salty. I haven't won with guard in ages. I started collecting SM just to beat him and still i can't. You kill his unit, he summons one more. Flying iron arm nurgle DP, tetrad, 30 warpcharges. Every time he casts D weapon he rolls 6 and laughs after destoying my knight, his knight is always in 2++.
Well, i'm still playing.

Grow up.

okay, let me break it down for you even slower, since you need some remedial education

you get shot as you approach
you decide to charge and get shot
you charge into combat and get you one round of attacks since you go first
they attack back and also get to shoot with pistols

-----end turn-----

they withdraw from combat
the rest of their army shoots you

-----end turn-----

repeat

>I'll try calling him a cuck, that's a good trick

>No Conga Lines

On the other hand, are all current factions going to still be supported in 8th? And will my tiny faction get more units?

I have a feeling there won't be much "repeating" in that scenario, because your CC unit will be dead at this point.

>and also get to shoot with pistols

That only happens in the models' own shooting phase, not YOUR assault phase.

>p-please don't call me a c-cuck it hurts my feelings!
Top kek your tears tears are delicious cuck

>all these ANTISEMITIC WHITE SUPREMACISTS getting TRIGGERED at the RISE OF THE TRIUMVIRATE OF THE BLACK MAN

>are all current factions going to still be supported in 8th?
At least at the start, they promised new rules and eventually a codex for every already existing army.

>And will my tiny faction get more units?
Who know what will happen when it gets its own 8th edition codex ?

That feels like Consolidate Into Combat to me. My Infiltrators are going to have a field day, given there's a lot of Guard, Nids and Tau for them to bully.