If so, I find it really hard to believe anyone would care about real life anymore. The only reason we don't spend all our time in the virtual TODAY is because it can't replicate the feelings of reality, just make a shadow of an imitation of it. And we still spend half our lives immersed in media, even with its limitations of experience.
Beyond doing what's needed to sustain the virtual life, why bother with reality when virtual reality is even better?
Currently at 90k, 10 away from the pictured supplement.
Brayden Bennett
Full blown slight of life? No (though IIRC some lunatic made a Maid RPG/EP mash-up) but I have run non Firewall "normal" games of investigation/etc before.
Angel Richardson
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Ryder Hughes
The only way to get the simulspace to create your dream reality is to spend a lot. The only way to spend that much money is to work in the real world.
Camden Morales
Wish I had money, I'd like to do my part and give to this.
I doubt it's impossible to just pirate shit, or be a really good coder. Processing power doesn't seem to be a major issue anymore. Do you have to have your own server to have your own dream reality or something?
Ryan Turner
Would this be a good system to use for a netrunner campaign or should I look into shadowrun instead?
Julian Harris
>Is simulspace just as good as reality?
EP takes place in a TITAN simspace, so as far as any of the characters know, yes
Elijah Walker
>eclipsephase.com/ep-and-disabled This is the purest form of cancer. "Disability as a form of fashion statement" can sum up this "I don't want to be fixed"-BS
Charles Sullivan
"I never asked for this"
Asher Stewart
Why does eclipse phase attract these kinds of people?
In what fucking world is cerebral Palsy a "life style choice?"
Cameron Parker
Yeah, you need specific hardware for good simulspace the books even note most people do not have a "home" server, they need to connect via a hardline to an external service for the best quality.
Isaac Peterson
Let's look at it another way though.
We, the audience, sometimes get butthurt that EP tries to tell us religion has mostly died out of the main stream. Because of all the cultural baggage, the influence it has on historical culture and the fact that some of them have survived so long.
So, think about it this way - humans have been developing ways to cope with disabilities since we have existed. In the modern period, there are serious cultures and communities developed to handling problems like deafness or blindness. They would be opposed to the idea that you can just rub transhumanism on the problem and do away with it - it would completely destroy their internal culture. Similarly, if a person lives their whole life without the ability to see, they may not be interested in gaining that ability - they feel perfectly fine as a person and don't want to risk their self-identity or image by gaining sight.
Samuel Adams
Pretty much yes.
You can even imagine blind people jacking up their hearing up to 11 and get fucking sonar and shit like bats.
Gabriel Roberts
Considering some deaf people destroy the ear drums of their children you kind of have a point.
But this guy is right this really is cancer. These kind of people are people who hate the idea of themselves being just another face in the crowd and try to make themselves special or different.
Brayden Reed
Oh god no, a player wanting to be unique in a an RPG how horrible.
Literal "male human fighter" shitposting.
Matthew Ross
>Oh god no, a player wanting to be unique in a an RPG how horrible. >Literal "male human fighter" shitposting. Hi everyone I'm a genderfluid catkin who has self diagnosed OCD and Aspergers. Please donate to my Patron so I don't have to work a boring 9 to 5 job. .
Jaxon Clark
Hi, I'm Jose veteran of Jovian armed forces and have a power armor, chainsaw and a lot of rockets. Please donate to my Patreon and for each 10k creds I'll kill Mr.Catkin once. And for 20k I'll use some of my imagination to do it spectacularly.
Sebastian Walker
Dude, if you just ignore her, she'll go away.
Zachary Sanchez
>Just take the drugs That is cortical stack, not a pill.
Tyler Kelly
So how would you remake Jovians in 2nd edition ? I would basically throw away the whole "new Jovian identity" concept and present them as US in exile, together with some nationalists from Earth and South America. Tuned up patriotism up to 100%, make more influences from 80s Reagan USA but with added technology. Public rejection of transhumanism, while scientists and army make all kinds of cutting edge super soldiers to retake Earth. Make their army basically hardened super experienced veterans with cyber-psychosis. Think Kilgore in power suit and cyber implants, dropping on Martian settlement from orbit and wasting whole area.
I want to take a faction of bland, politically charged, and ridiculously smeared cartoon villains, then turn them into a faction of bland, politically charged, and ridiculously wanked cartoon heroes.
Chase Phillips
They are only ridiculousl to you commie.
Zachary Campbell
Is that what Pods are supposed to look like? That's super cute.
Isaac Adams
>I want to take a faction of bland, politically charged, and ridiculously smeared cartoon villains Jovians >villains I guess you are not able to think for yourself, huh? If you read the setting they are actually good guys, and one of the last remaining larger groups of organized human survivors.
>luddites in future are good guys Spoken like a true american.
William Martin
Ehh, the base is ok. But authors really pushed it too much. Starting with somehow sweeping all the space around Jupiter in a couple of minutes.
Make the war for Jove as people shouting at each other over radio while missiles are en-route to their targets. Probably some of them will hit what they were supposed to hit but before everyone is dead a little cooler heads prevail and through some bloodshed take the leading positions. Remaining missiles are sent either on Jupiter or out of the Solar System.
Jovians remain biocons and their general outlook on transhumanity doesn't change much. The biggest changes are to socio-political map of the Republic itself - US, Russian and Chinese parts don't integrate seamlessly and actually have their own enclaves with certain habs having dominant populations. Plus there is refugees from Earth, mostly from South America which are even when given full citizen rights still must deal with prejudice. Government actually tries to make something more monolithic out of this mess but cultural divides are too big to make it work in just 10 years.
Also no retarded names for habs.
Adrian Lee
>Also no retarded names for habs. Reminder.
Jonathan Bailey
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Connor Hernandez
They don't know how they're gonna do it yet, but part of the intent with Whispering Muse is to get new EP writers, so they'll be having some kind of open submission for it if it funds - so if you wanted a clean shot at writing for EP your chance might be coming.
Ian Wilson
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John Garcia
>not playing as elite Jovian unit >not using US styled power armor to hunt down transtrash
Robert Morris
Jovian soldier vs Transhumans
Wyatt Johnson
Jovian recon squad on Earth
Jonathan Lewis
>Psst..wanna try transhumanism kids?
Henry Mitchell
Don't you have your own general?
Nathaniel Smith
Transhumanism is Bill Nye looping Sex Junk through the mind of a "rescued" Jovian child, forever.
Kayden Lewis
THIS
Dylan Fisher
>not this time transtrash scum!
Adrian Phillips
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Leo Reyes
I want a Jovian! How can I get my hands on one? They barely allow regular tourism, let alone sex tourism, so my best bet is to smuggle it out, right? How much would I have to offer to indenture it?
I'm saying that as someone who sees the first movie as an appalling atrocity against the novel. Even considering that, the third movie was an atrocity against the first movie.
Nolan Phillips
Song is good though
Parker Thomas
>Transhumanism is Bill Nye looping Sex Junk through the mind of a "rescued" Jovian child, forever.
Can somebody write Bill Nye as an corrupted exsurgent ?
Nathaniel Evans
Song is amusing but terrible
Hudson Hall
Jovian fags, please go. Sincerely, your gate crashers trying to find humanity a new home.
Jose Long
You do realize they're just shitposting at this point right?
Joseph Harris
What's a practical reason to justify a humanoid morph with reptilian features like scales?
Grayson Russell
Does there need to be a practical reason?
Samuel Cruz
PS just added a new $10 tier designed to get new people in - includes the fiction anthology, the setting information, and the 1E quick start to be delivered right away if you back. Also some of their custom music.
Asher Brown
>stretch goal for 2E rewrite includes 1E quick start
Owen Baker
Because it's neat?
Jaxson Martinez
Yeah, but this 10 package gets you the 1E quick start within 24 hours of backing as opposed to... sometime later in 2017. It's if you want to jump into the game now, not later.
No idea why you would though, since it's a KS for the 2nd Ed.
Christian Gutierrez
irl shitposting
Cooper Bennett
We have the griefer for that
Julian Cruz
Griefers are easymode irl shitposting
Kevin Howard
How would you overthrow the Jovian Republic?
Where would you even start? What would be your first move?
John Harris
Veeky Forums
Do you have any GM advice for running a game where all players are Synergy colonists who are visiting Transhumanity's home solar system? They'll be linked together into a temporary tiny group mind (a refresher: group minds are different from true hiveminds because members still retain their individuality) until they return to the full Synergy one after they finish their task. Their primary task will be as emissaries/diplomats but they'll be drawn into a mystery.
Cooper Gonzalez
So basically you want to ignore all the facts and basic conceits of the setting to fanwank the Jovians hard?
Leo Taylor
I am trying to find the EP adventure where the players find a chimera of themselves at the very end. I have been looking around for a bit and still no luck.
Charles Sullivan
Dude, you don't have to sugar-coat it. Everyone can see that he is retarded;
Jack Collins
I'd rather turn them into an actual Democratic-Republic with checks and balances like the United States. Also, keep religion out of the government while none-the-less having religion being personally important to citizens. Finally, the culture will be conservative (with 60% right-of-center conservatism & 40% authoritarian right evangelical style conservatism) with a mix of emotional and actually very logical arguments against Transhumanism, Nanotech & AGIs being abundant. Classical Humanism has also come back BIG time.
Any technology which externally improves without radically changing humanity is permitted. Cybernetics is still a hot issue for debate, seeing as it only replaces flesh and does not fundamentally change the human species in an inheritable fashion (and, of course, the military still uses it anyway--which will be a presidential veto and countless federal job lows (at best) causing big scandal if leaked).
Henry Taylor
*60% right-of-center libertarian conservatism.
Ayden Turner
*job losses.
Samuel Bell
Not the Jovian fag, but I can understand where he is coming from. I love EP, and am a bit of a transhumanist myself, but there are ways to make the faction appear more logical while still being at odds with everyone else. Make the belief that reshelling basically kills people. How forking works seems to support the premise that the original consciousness is just deleted/gone in most instances. Although I would say you don't even need to change the setting to do this. Its merely how the GM interprets what is written and how they present it that can lead to them just being a bunch of bible thumpers in space or lead them to be a bunch of conservative humans that fear the self extinction of their species and everything they value.
Leo Hernandez
I think it might be chain reaction, but am not sure.
Kevin Scott
Also, these Jovians are not openly hostile toward Transhumanity but still quarantine themselves from said non-humans. They also retain that paranoid self-defense tendency.
Adrian Foster
Doesn't look like it, but it might be an alternative to what I am looking for. In the beginning of the adventure the party wakes up from being dead resleeved in cheap bodies.
Chase Thompson
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Wyatt Lewis
Looks like it may be ego hunter.
Josiah Bailey
but that wouldn't have the chimera at the end. Maybe I am mixing up parts of different adventures.
Grayson Edwards
Thank you. I (being this guy and not that guy) just want the Jovians (and other conservatives within the setting) to be given a fair & realistic representation within the setting (which is why I prefer Transhuman Space for being politically neutral). Also, keeping a lot of well defended sustainable baseline humans around makes a lot of sense as a last resort backup in case the Transhumanist experiment comes to a complete failure.
Owen Richardson
The one where everybody is a beta fork of the same character?
Connor Clark
Yeah, I was reading that over. It seems like what i was looking for. I am honestly beginning to think that I am mixing several adventures together in my head. I might just end up doing something custom. Its for a one shot, and Ego hunter is a bit investigation heavy for my group. I do want them to all wake up dead, and in new sleeves, and have them investigate what lead up to their party death.
Basically the idea is to have a fun, and perhaps a bit morbid, romp though a bunch of the setting details and mechanics for a one shot play test with some friends. I want to highlight resleeving, forking, ego-backups especially.
Jonathan Edwards
yes
Jordan Barnes
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Angel Hill
>I do want them to all wake up dead, and in new sleeves, and have them investigate what lead up to their party death. May I suggest this one, then.
Run it with a real-time clock in the background. Good shit.
Landon Morgan
Yeah, I can also see them dabbling in 'forbidden' tech to a limited extent. I've considered adding a spec ops branch to the jovians called the Revenants. They are basically given cortical stacks so that when they die their memories are possible to retrieve and are backed up. They are called the Revenants because after their original dies they are all legally dead. I have debating if they all start in the unit as volunteers/patriots or if there was another form of selection (assuming I use it). The idea was to give the Jovians some special forces/spys that are completely capable of competing with normal transhumans at every level, but that are completely devoted to the jovian cause and view themselves as some form of techno undead that is an echo of their true selves that serves humanity.
Logan Parker
Yeah, that is one of the ones I've run across.. I'll probably end up running that if I don't make my own custom one. It is missing a few things that I'd like, and changing them would change things too much, but that might be a good thing since it leaves things easier to digest.
Parker Allen
EG: I wanted to showcase using the reputation based economy system on top of everything else. This adventure seems to include everything but the potential for that. But beggars can't be choosers.
Christopher Scott
>$1000 for all of the stretch goals >those stretch goals so far are some NPC stat blocks, a handful of fluff articles, and two raises for the underpaid freelancers
sasuga Posthuman
Caleb Perry
You're going to be hard-pressed to hit EVERY setting element with a one-shot AND STILL have a coherent/enjoyable game session.
My advice? Do Continuity for session 1, followed by Mind the WMD for session 2. Those two adventures hit virtually all of the important notes.
Joshua Brooks
>tfw no official PbtA hack for EP
Gabriel Martinez
Don't forget another book - no, sorry a SERIES of books full of useless fluffwank. Because Argonauts was such a huge hit.
Michael Hernandez
You will never have a better plot
William Sanders
Good to know. I'll be sure to get a copy of those and look through em.
Joseph James
Continuity is here . Mind the WMD is part of the quickstart rules.
Tyler Morales
Be a genius politician. Infiltrate Republic through Hyoden. Get full citizen rights and go for political carrier.
I'd say in around 50 years you can reform Jovian government and make most of the population to drop the hate.
Logan Wood
That's literally already the Jovians as written. Stop buying into JOvefags BS.
Literally be Monica Contreras, because she already did in like AF 1.
Caleb Sanders
>muh Junta Okay, fine. How would you overthrow Contreras' government, then?
Easton Campbell
Contreras has a framed poster of the Demiurge in her bedroom that she masturbates to every night.
Actual question though, how attractive are people in 10AF? Your average splicer is not only stronger and healthier than a flat, but also smarter. In the same way, are they universally at least good looking?
Parker Richardson
Everybody is probably at least TV pretty, barring any unusual personal aesthetic choices.
Carson Fisher
I see from your silence that you are like so many other /nogamez/ in this thread. You deride the Jovians as backwards savages and their government as an illegitimate dictatorship - yet when asked what to do about it, you can do nothing but pontificate.
At least has thought about the matter and proposed a plan of action. An optimistic one to be sure - to change a corrupt system from within is the goal of many a politician. And perhaps in his fifty years he'd pass a few reforms - just enough to convince himself that he's doing good, but ultimately not enough to make a difference.
Perhaps one man can stop a river, but not by merely wading into it.