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>BattleTech Introductory Info and PDFs
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>Overview of the major factions?
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>How do I find out which BattleMechs a faction has?
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Unit Designing Softwares
>SSW Mech Designer
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>MegaMek Lab
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>/btg/ does a TRO:
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>How do I do this Against the Bot thing? (old)
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2017-03-03 – UPDATED (Against the Bot)
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(new)
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Current 3.21 rule set is included in the mekhq package

>Map of /btg/ players (WIP):
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>Rookie guides
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>Sarna.net - BattleTech Wiki
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>Megamek - computer version of BattleTech. Play with AI or other players
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>BattleTech IRC
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>PDF Folders
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More goodies! (Rare manuals, hex packs, TROs, discord server, etc.) Last updated 2017-03-26!
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Our /btg/ Merc Unit! 2017-05-02
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So who decided that the prime variant for a 100 ton omnimech should have a damage capacity of 25? Seriously, even if you don't play battletech you should know that's way too anemic for its weight class.

Fed Suns?! Yeah that was our territory initially.

Is it because of the company engine that it doesn't have a lot of pod space? Even the targeting computer doesn't really offset the fact it has the long range weapons of something I would put as 60 tons.

Nope, because the A variant mounts 2 HPPCs, a snub nose, and 2 ERMLs, with 8 DHS.

The pod space is low anyway, and the Prime proceeds to mount a bunch of heavy pointless gear.

All the stuff that premiered in Hotspots 3072 has new toy syndrome. Don't take it seriously and look to the Infernus and later variants.

I never really looked at it like this...

Please consider that comstar has had a clandestine anti-tech religious war against all other factions because "Hurr we should be the only ones with high tech, the others can't be trusted". And their whole monopoly on HPG comms because they sabotage, murder and destroy anyone who tries to research things on their own.

So its not just Zimbabwe. Its space Zimbabwe, the only people who know how to breed the special space pigeons (tm) that can transport messages all over the galaxy.

Also they had a fuckhuge cache of mint condition star league mechs + coolant suits.

So it is literally space pigeon breeding Zimbabwe in SPESS, with the best TEC-9 submachineguns while everyone else only has .38 revolvers. Literally an african milita in space. Add to it the religious fundamentalism and you get !Not-Jihadists in space doing everyones mail delivery. And of course everyone entrusts them not to just open the letters, read them, and reseal them.

I'm still amazed it took the inner sphere so long to get some real alternative means of data transfer. First mention i know is around 3048. Davion blackboxes, and then either Liao or Drac stole them and reverse engineered them.

>tl:dr: Comstar is literally space zimbabwe with space pigeons, religious anti tech raids and Admech-tier mysticism tech worship
>Pic related

>First mention i know is around 3048. Davion blackboxes, and then either Liao or Drac stole them and reverse engineered them.

Dude, you need to go back and read the grogtech era stuff. Because Black Boxes are how Hanse got around the Comstar interdiction in the 4th Succession War.

Even that wasn't invented. It was old pre-HPG tech they found, and severely limited.

>And of course everyone entrusts them not to just open the letters, read them, and reseal them.
Not really. But their public neutrality was one of their defining characteristics before the schism. They were also the last vestige of the true Star League, and nobody wanted to wreck that up. In a setting where local comms are trashed with any invasion, it's nice to know the interstellar ones will still work.

Then there's the money issue. HPG comms are supremely profitable, but building a single new Class B station is more than 1/4 the cost of a new McKenna Warship. Class A is way more. There's just not the money to make a competing network on hundreds of worlds, even if you had the tech. Only the Star League had that kind of money and will to throw around.

Ironically, this is the main reason Comstar went bankrupt in the Dark Age. You blow the HPG cores on 900 worlds and even if you found a solution to Clarion Call, you're still fucked with replacing them all.

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I need a quick clarification.

Does the Lao Hu have an upper arm and shoulder actuator, or does the I.S. LB-20-X take up the whole 12 crit slot for the arm?

Forgot shitpost scribbles.

Fills the arm and spills over into the RT, because IS LB-20s are 11 crits for no reason.

Chesterton was, and it's finally been reclaimed.

All mechs with arms have at least a shoulder and upper arm, as far as I know. That includes the Lao Hu. The LB-20-X takes up ten slots there, and one in the torso.

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Long live the Confederation!

Merc user here. Sorry, I've been working like crazy and didn't have time to update anything. I've to catch up the last thread even!

What about I create a Google docs so everyone can edit? Maybe a form where everyone can post things, but not remove what other people did. This way I don't miss your posts and we keep everything compiled in a document

Do you have a list of what's been suggested so far?

At the risk of turning /btg/ into a Mai Shiranui thread ...

Not my fault those kurita assholes are too stupid to look down.

We tend to step over that which we consider trash.

What would you all say is the most boring mech on the tabletop all in all?

Basic Banshee maybe?

Anvil

Hellstar/Awesome/any and all Guassboats

Using nothing but Hellstars. But more generally, anything that can Alpha Strike forever gets boring. Having a heat dissipation capacity to handle a long-range system OR a short range one lets you pack more weapons into both roles, and forces you to make choices. Do you try to get closer to bring your short-range battery into play, or try to keep away to keep using your long-range firepower? Is your enemy fast enough in comparison to you to force you to use one or the other? Did you go too heavy on the long-range stuff, leaving you with a weakened short-range capacity, or is your long-range capacity only a token effort in return for a murderous up-close mauling?

>anything that can Alpha Strike forever gets boring.

But those are the only genuinely optimal units. And using non optimized units is boring and dumb.

>cookie cutter copy paste meta is fun
>going sub optimal and challenging yourself is boring

i fucking hate people like you,

>But those are the only genuinely optimal units. And using non optimized units is boring and dumb.

dis best b bait

Did you actually get Adam Sherwood to trade you a bunch of 'Mechs for some D&D stuff?

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You sure you didn't end up around New Kyoto?

>hunchtan
>no shoulder AC
whatamiseeing.jpg

Every time I see it...

He still works at CGL.

Heh.

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Marauder fight!

I want to serve House Kurita!

>Marauder fight!

As ubiquitous as this design is, and as much as I love all the Unseen, I never drew very many Marauders. There's one in this lot, though.

What I had is in Pastebin. I've missed most of discussion in the last thread, starting by the user posting his lance.

Sadly I'll not have time until next Saturday to compile what is missing

Do you do any more drawings as of late? Love your stuff.

>there will never be another photo like this
>never so much asian thicc in one place again

>Do you do any more drawings as of late?

The most recent one was this Nicholiev, inspired by a Dougram discussion a few threads ago. The Bushman I reposted in the last thread ().

>Love your stuff.

Thanks!

Can I tag your art on the booru "Pencil Bro" or do would you like another monicker?

>Cabarov
>Would pilot proudly. I DON'T NEED ARMS! My last assignments were a Hoplite and an Urbie!

Mecha Musume for the Hunchback. The paddle is her autocannon, which the kanji for the numbers bears out, though it's using an outdated version of the character for two (preceding the number ten that is the cross shape, it multiplies it to result in 20).

>Can I tag your art on the booru "Pencil Bro" or do would you like another monicker?

Would "PencilBro" (without the space) work better in the booru's search engine, or do you think it matters?

I recently uncovered a stash of fairly old artwork, including some from before the Dark Age of Technology, but none of it is really /btg/-related... except maybe for some sketches of the Patlabor cast.

>TPTB spend the FCCW developing the 11th Arcturan Guards as a talented force that gathers supporting units until it becomes a veritable battle group that shadows Victor's escort force for most of the civil war, fighting and beating him in many critical battles before being recalled to defend their capital from Clanners and mercenaries
>gets killed off in the first five minutes of the jihad and is never rebuilt

Why?

/btg/, what's your unit, character or faction that got that treatment? That was built up only to be dropped off a cliff by plot or just plain old forgotten?

>/btg/, what's your unit, character or faction that got that treatment?
ComStar.

>That was built up only to be dropped off a cliff by plot or just plain old forgotten?
The FWLN
Also the Knights Of The Inner Sphere

>/btg/, what's your unit, character or faction that got that treatment?

Colonial Marshals.
Really the TC in general, but the marshals in particular

St.Ives Compact, Circinus Federation, the Waco Rangers

Barber's Marauder IIs, Waco Rangers, KoTIS, Nova Cats. List goes on and on

Waco's Whackos went out like motherfucking bosses, and frankly I think most of the other dead factions here would be happy to have their fate.

Yeah, the Marshals getting buttfucked was.. annoying.

I can do both "Pencil_Bro" and "PencilBro" without any problems.

If you have any artwork from Macross, Crusher Joe, MOSPEADA, Southern Cross and Dougram, it can be put it up on the booru. I left that option because of BT's original artwork coming from those franchises.
Anything else... let's see what ya got! I'm interested.

>Waco's Whackos went out like motherfucking bosses, and frankly I think most of the other dead factions here would be happy to have their fate.

I'll agree to this. Going down wrecking Sue's Dragoons and finally killing Jaime was pretty awesome.

Compare that to the 1st KotIS, who were gassed like vermin because fuck knows why.

Also, how many goddamn gas station captchas am I going to get before I can post?

They got an great last ride, absolutely, but how they got to that state was pure getting chucked off the cliff for plot reasons

>Compare that to the 1st KotIS, who were gassed like vermin because fuck knows why.

Can't have good guys in Grimderpess that is Jihad/Dark Ages, everyone needs to do warcrimes or be generally biggest aholes possible. The only reason that one knighly order, whose name escapes at the moment, has survived is because their planet is in the bumfuck nowhere in Periphery. But I am sure as soon as BT writers remember them they are getting warcrimed to death or do some horrible shit.

>The only reason that one knighly order, whose name escapes at the moment, has survived is because their planet is in the bumfuck nowhere in Periphery
You're thinking of the Brotherhood of Randis, yeah.
>But I am sure as soon as BT writers remember them they are getting warcrimed to death or do some horrible shit.
Probably. Given their past performance I'm going to bet that they'll have the taurians do it for no reason, lose three regiments in the attempt and then kill millions of civilians with nukes for literally no reason

FWLN.

>be the only IS faction to build an actual navy
>half of it just vanishes and the other half dies doing nothing of import

Best part was how they had to retroactively kill off 90% of it because only a tiny fraction was actually accounted for in the Jihad.

>If you have any artwork from Macross, Crusher Joe, MOSPEADA, Southern Cross and Dougram, it can be put it up on the booru. I left that option because of BT's original artwork coming from those franchises.
>Anything else... let's see what ya got! I'm interested.

Just about everything I've ever done, I've posted here; it's probably already in the booru by now. I do recall somewhere having drawn a picture of that stubby little LAM from Southern Cross, but I can't find it. If I ever do run across it, I'll be sure it ends up there.

>tfw we don't know the Dark Age fate of the Delos

I hope Lester put a shit ton of Aerospace fighters on her and let her loose Galactica style before he lost the war.

2nd Sword of Light. Lol(black)dracs.

Kit writes the Brotherhood of Randis shit which is why they suddenly got a lost Assault design and become the first Periphery nation with native assault production.

Odds of them suddenly dying are low.

I've been getting through pics as fast as I can when I have time on lunch break and so forth. I can pic out your work easily. I'll tag every one. Anyhow it's good to know we pretty much have all of the collection. Gotta catch 'em all.

I actually don't mind them getting their own special (and actually pretty mediocre) mech, even an assault, but then I've been a longstanding believer on mech proliferation

>Kit writes the Brotherhood of Randis

Whelp, I hate the Brotherhood of Randis now. Fuck them.

I've recently discovered the fan-made TRO 3063 and have been enjoying perusing it.

I'm not caught up on BT fan community politics and the OF, so I don't know any of the fellows who made it. Did anyone here contribute to it?

And has anyone used the Forge? I thought the fluff was interesting and might try to use it in an upcoming game.

I thought she couldn't leave the system? IIRC the only functioning Thera was the one stolen by the snowy magpies from the toasters.

>Gotta catch 'em all.

I want be
the very best

No one here contributed, no. Also, they fucked up and added HPPCs and Snubbies to stuff, so hastily replaced them with goofy weapons.

3063? Is that the 'muh jumpvees' and 'muh lyran supership' POS?

No. You're thinking of the broken one in Oriente. There are 3 working Theras.

The Wobbies have one (it's the thing that launched a ton of spectral fighters and blew the shit out of the Minnesota Tribe dig at the beginning of ISP3).

The Ravens have one (this was the Wobbies other stolen one that got captured)

The Regulans have one (This was what they used for orbital bombardment and fleet support all the way to Circinus. It was the cover for Final Reckoning)

As in an original version of the TRO had era-inappropriate weapons? Any idea which ones?

I don't know. What's the Lyran supership supposed to be?

First section I looked at was FWL and enjoyed it.

The Forge is effectively just an Awesome that can go 4/6 and packs some backup weapons so it's not in trouble if something gets close.
Use it to support thuds and warhammers and it will do very well

>As in an original version of the TRO had era-inappropriate weapons? Any idea which ones?
Blazers are the HPPC replacement, and I can't remember what was the SNPPC one. Probably an ERLL.

That's part of why I liked it. Reminded me of a sorta combination of the ideas behind the -9M and -9Q Awesomes. The fluff fit the faction well, very brass tacks where it had to be and not even written as a sure thing. Plus while it seems to use the Marauder chasis for its basis visually it also reminds me of the Talos.

I'm going to have to check out which designs got blazers and see if I could upgrade the weapons for fun Dark Age refits.

>Did anyone here contribute to it?
Yeah. I wrote a few of the entries and edited the rest, plus I did a bunch of playtesting with some of the crazier shit (notably the Diesel Thunderbolts and the Aurora).

The guy who did the record sheet automation program for us used to post here, but he developed a case of severe jimmie-rustling when CGL wouldn't acknowledge his genius. Then he moved on to Robotech Tactics and got banned from their forums too, and is now theoretically writing his own game but mostly being an ass-blasted little bitch on Facebook. It's a shame, because he's damned industrious, but the dude is a serious attention whore.

As far as the art side of the house, we got Alex/FD and Chris D./TGXarbala on board at various points. Both of them have also moved on from posting here, but they were recruited while they were still active 'channers.

Yeah, there were several designs where we swapped HPPCs out for Blazers. Not everything with a Snubbie got an ERLL - regular LLs worked better for some of the brawlers, and others got different swaps. The Culverin got completely re-written in the final hours of work because the original designer (the one who got fired for ripping off art) didn't pay attention to the correct layouts for the equipment per art.

I really like the Diesel Thud. I find it funny how fans have a better feel for a faction than the official writers do.

>Diesel Thunderbolts

Band name!

mad bumpu

What are your favorite regimental insignias?

And does anyone know some besides those in the Arcturan Guards brigade that feature big cats?

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No, that's a Lyran fan TRO

Anyone know when the Harebrained Shcemes game is coming out? I want to buy the Mechwarrior pack on Backerkit, but I want to know the release date.

Eventually (tm)

Their website says 2017.

Do they not ahve a definitive date?

C'mon, even fucking star citizen has a schedule, and people meme about how that's never coming out.

I know shimmy did the Shad - has he done the Griffin or Wolvie yet?

To be fair that's a pretty swanky porch

why do you constantly suck his dick? I mean, i don't hate the drawings, but dang. Literally every time he posts you're here minutes later.

oof

ouch

the hits...

keep coming...

The FWL also has one. I don't remember which, but they've got one that's got engines broken or something. Although I recall there being some plot conflict where Oystein went nu-uh, so who knows if it still counts, or if everyone on Atreus is idly wondering what that bright speck in the sky is.

>Huda art that looks good

what is this madness

hurr durr, ignore this, I was being retarded. It's teh REGULAN one, iirc, where it may or may not have vanished into atmo. Oriente's got the busted engine one.

Yes, the Wolverine is in Historical: First Succession War. The Griffin isn't out yet I think.

I know I want to play a half Maori half Urdu half Swedish character. Thanks HBS!

I was here today before and after he showed up.
And if you're jealous of someone appreciating the charm of someone's work, maybe you should contribute something other than shitposting and maybe someone would appreciate you.