That guy looks pissed

thanks for the info, just seems weird that GW would list a race and only one line about it? Leaving the rest to imagination? I wouldnt mind a space wolves like chapter of say cat girls which are half cat half human sort of like how the space wolves are half wolf half human.

>Anyone trying to have a discussion about this is grasping at straws
THanks for the info or ya know confirmation of lack of info. was wondering if maybe there was more in one of the appended codexes but I guess not.

They are abhumans, meaning they are a branch of humanity that has evolved based on the conditions they were in, but is still close enough to human to be accepted by the imperium, kinda like ogryns or ratlings. Thats all we fucking no. Personally I'm of the opinion they are much closer to human than cat, because if they were furry beastmen abominations the imperium would have killed them all. Same as how if ratlings are not skaven, they're just fucking tiny. If ratlings were skaven they wouldn't have been accepted as abhumans, they just would have been put down.

>They can be hunted as mutants instead.
I struggle with that because as a loyal SOB player the Space marines are technically mutants and do hope one day to partner with Rogal Down in tearing down the chapters of the Astartes one by one as the foul mutants they are standing against Mankind as their threat of heresy like their battle brothers of the past looms on the horizon.
>Urge to purge with cleansing fire intensifies.

Guess maybe they added it to see if people who would maybe talk about it? Maybe as a testing ground for a future story arc in one of the books? Really wondering if perhaps their led by a cat girl primarch previously unknown due to the coveted secrecy of the work in the Emperors secret laboratories under Holy Terra.

Perhaps its an abhuman primarch? One that would have evolved like others taking on traits of the people of the planet and the environment?

Anyone got that picture of a Sister of Battle covered in felinid guardswomen?

Maybe it's one of the secret primarchs.

Personally I like the joke that they were the result of genetic experiments in the DAoT. Because if the technology to make Space Marines exists you KNOW someone had to think of making some full on kawaii catgirls with it.

It's jut part of human nature.

This...actually makes sense. When you think about it it's pretty damn unlikely the imperium would accept something like . maybe, but definitely not the full furry.

IT'S A BRITISH REFERENCE FROM A BRITISH COMPANY ABOUT BRITISH TV

THEY LOOK LIKE THIS

That actually makes a disturbing amount of sense. There was probably a bunch of other fetish bullshit too, but the Imperium just ended up killing all of those as muties.

>Personally I'm of the opinion they are much closer to human than cat, because if they were furry beastmen abominations the imperium would have killed them all.

One piece of Tau fluff is that, thousands of years ago, the Imperium found primitive Tau. Instead of exterminating them immediately, they decided that they had more urgent problems to deal with and planned to come back later. Then the Tau got protected by a very convenient (for the Tau) warp storm, which only dissipated when the Tau had become what they are now.

I'd expect the Imperium does a similar thing to abhumans that aren't warp-tainted or useful. Delay their extermination until they don't have a more urgent need of the forces required*. Until then, confine them to their planet.

*Exterminatus would wreck the biosphere. They don't justify a cost that high right now.

> Nekopara is set in the 40k universe on a planet that lost contact with the human empire
Despair but also a boner

>Maybe it's one of the secret primarchs.
I eluded to this as a possibility since it is similar to plot devices used by GW in the past in relation to the WH40k universe.

> When you think about it it's pretty damn unlikely the imperium would accept something like (You). (You)
If their abhuman, and from the detailed explanation down to the genetic level saying so, it would stand to reason they are more human than cat. Though the degree to which they are anthropomorphic seems as of yet unknown without any official imagry from GW showing the cat-girl crusaders in their full glory.

To be part of the imperium as stated, assumes we can infer they are followers of the Emperor of man then much like the Brides of the Emperor?

>There are no wolves on fenris.

There is precedent.

Well this has taken a turn for the strange.

I mean, a lot of the others are explicitly experiments: the Gland Wars and Afriel Strain come to mind, Ogryns could have been bred as a servile "class" on some worlds, the Troths could have been an experiment in introducing photosynthesis, etc.

It'd make a certain amount of sense that many stable "abhumans" were the result of intercession, while most "mutants" are accidents.

Depends on the order, really.

I'm honestly surprised that everyone assumes felinids are catgirls and not something completely different.

Ratlings aren't ratmen after all.

The lost primarch was a dense harem protagonist growing up on a planet of catgirls. The Emperor had him executed and made into an unperson because he had shit taste in waifus and didn't go for the childhood friend.

>Fatidicus
>FAT-i-DICK-us
>Fat dick, with a little psuedo latin elements thrown in.

Am I the only one who sees this? Father Fat Dick preaching on Terra?

Exactly what I said.

Thanks for sharing user! Very informative and in line with what I am thinking.

>I'm honestly surprised that everyone assumes felinids are catgirls and not something completely different.
True but ratlings arent really skaven, their just more like tiny humans but dominantly appearance wise and genetically more human than anything else if there is some goalpost to measure that by I suppose.

ogryns evolved on high gravity worlds

some abhumans are simply the result of evolution others are caused by genetic manipulations
mutants however are people born with to much deviation from the standard norm.

Nice.

I'm only the first poster in your post.
I can't really care.

>Am I the only one who sees this?
Yes.
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/fatidicus

We know that there is something about Space Wolf geneseed that means it only works on humans from Fenris. Major genetic engineering on the original colonists, followed by their altered biology altering geneseed implanted within space marines from there, would explain it.

The people of fenris just remained looking human, and got themselves a primarch. So the parts of the Imperium that found out about their altered DNA just looked the other way.

>It'd make a certain amount of sense that many stable "abhumans" were the result of intercession, while most "mutants" are accidents.
Indeed.

As for felinids, you can justify the visible alterations on a fully furry catgirl as helping them survive on that planet (or parts of it) if you really want to.

Personally I go with the ears and tail catgirls. Mainly because I was hoping that FFG would do a supplement detailing abhumans useful to the investigation parts of Inquisition work. But that's never going to happen.

True. But catgirls are the most interesting suggestion I've seen.

>no preaching on imperial worlds
this sounds like a piece of fluff that should have been retconned or is being ignored by everyone

So they're exclusively female? That doesn't seem very human at all.

/v/ version of this thread had same OP picture, only my duty to post the best response pic.

Well no, they aren't, but the only people who give a shit are fetishists, and they only care about cat girls not cat boys.

All of the pictures you have seen are fan art. They are stated as being restricted to their home world so, no, they are not IG. They aren't even allowed to leave planet.

Also their taxonomic name is homo sapien hirsutis so they most likely look like the Mexican wolfman not a furry as that would be to far of a genetic deviation to qualify as abhuman.
This is 40k after all and not so moe anime.

Pic related.

It's more that abhumans have a stable breeding population that produces more of the same abhuman. A separate species descended from humanity.

Mutants either can't breed, or produce offspring that are very different in unpredictable ways.

Xenos have no human ancestry. The distinction between xeno, abxeno, and xeno-mutant is one the Imperium rarely cares about.

>So they're exclusively female? That doesn't seem very human at all.
If and I mean "IF" they have some sort of cat like traits natively which were further supplemented with the geneseed of a primarch being present it may be natural that the females may demonstrate higher levels of aggression as seen in actual tigers/cats etc...

If GW did release cat girls for guard or something, I think we can assume they wouldn't be full-on furries, if Wulfen are any indication.

>Also their taxonomic name is homo sapien hirsutis so they most likely look like the Mexican
They are from a world called Carlos McConnell.

Scottish-mexicans ?

>All of the pictures you have seen are fan art. They are stated as being restricted to their home world so, no, they are not IG.
I noticed this is, I asked about that since it seemed odd so much fanart of something with one line and all in Imperial Guard armor, there are more images but I dont care to save or post them but all have Imperial Guard armor for some reason.

Why do you say with confidence there is no IG present on the world when it is in the imperium? Am I missing something?

Would really break the aesthetics of the universe to have furries running around yet still call them human. Would make more sense if they had some cat like traits, cat ears, maybe teeth or some kind of facial deformation? but tails and fur just seems a bit too much.

>Leaving the rest to imagination?

Its a fucking setting, using your imagination for YOU to fill the void is actually the point of this and a hundred othe one liners across 40k!

Why do people have this fascination for everything needing to be neatly spelled out and obvious?

That planet most likely is named after the guy who discovered it. Not uncommon for Rogue Traders.

>wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Carlos_McConnell
Who is this Carlos McConell?
Sounds like groundwork laying for a story that is being written or maybe a story arc that got scrapped due to Ultramar becoming the next big thing because Ultramarines rule!

>homo sapien hirsutis

Well shit, they might actually be furries. Fuck, that ruins everything for me.

abhumans are a subspecies of human not a separate species
much like a chihuahua and a rotweiler are both still dogs
there is no offical designation for a mutant , in books i've read they seem to use a % grade to determine if someone is a mutant or not. They are still human though , just born with a quirk (or horribly misshapen)
xenos are xenos yes , no idea why you mentioned that

There is nothing in the fluff beyond that one line in the abhumans entry. That's it. Full stop.

You see it in fanart because nerds want kawaii catgirl soldiers to beat off to and the name felinid means cat-like. Nothing more to it.

>You see it in fanart because nerds want kawaii catgirl soldiers to beat off to and the name felinid means cat-like. Nothing more to it.

Also I didn't say there wasn't IG on the planet just that felinids aren't IG. If they are restricted to their world they may be auxiliaries in a PDF but by definition they cannot be IG if they cannot travel off world.

>Why do you say with confidence there is no IG present on the world when it is in the imperium? Am I missing something?

You are missing that the Imperium confines all the felinids to their homeworld. None are every allowed to leave, so none of them can ever be in the guard.

Now, if there are humans on that planet, they could join the guard if it's an Imperium planet. Ad-mech forces if it's an ad-mech planet.

If it's a planet owned by a SM chapter, then there might be no IG. Just the chapter recruiting from the humans.

Wow, I'm surprised it took you this long.

So you tell me there are units, maybe even entire regiments, composed entirely of catgirls?
What do these catgirls do better than normal humans? I mean, ogryns are great at CC, ratlings are superb snipers, what do catgirls do?

>hate mutants, even sanctioned ones and the Emperor's own
>ally with a supermutant to kill them
It would be like allying with Stalin because you really hate communists.

See: pic.

It's one of life's more bitter ironies that RPGs grew popular in that segment of the population least able to appreciate the subtlety of good storytelling.

>homo sapien hirsutis
Wait.... so their scientific name is literally "Hairy Wise Man"?

Raising question since this is interesting to have some great lore hounds in the thread, but how did Ogryns get into the IG then or is it the same where they are serving in an auxillary capacity similar to what could be done with the felinid peoples?

Correct. Though hirsute implies covered in hair not just hairy.

humnans are technically covered in hair though also to differing extents so the level of fur on a Felinid is open to speculation and still could leave them looking human with only some cat like characteristics such as teeth, ears, etc...

Space wolves have the same genetic drift except theirs are more wolf like due to the scientific underlying nature of their development.

Space Marines always look pissed when their helmets are on. It's intentional.

Felinids exist only on one planet and their abilities are canonically unknown (because literally everything other than the single line in the big book is furry fetish shit fannon), Ogryns are a common form of abhuman and have been in the world for 30 years.

They are not exclusive to a single world for starters. That and were found to be exceptionally useful to the Imperial Army with genetic divergence being in size and intellect.

Felinids have only been found on a single world and may be divergent enough to be borderline mutants and/or have no traits or skills that make them valuable beyond canon fodder. The Imperium doesn't want to spread them and they probably don't have numbers enough to conscript in any useful amount.

>the emperor is alive right now and is a weeb browsing Veeky Forums
>thousands of years later he makes catgirls
>send his beloved creations to an outer rim world where they can be safe

Where do you read that?

Technically means nothing. Hirsute as is used means to be covered in an abnormal amount of hair. If their defining traits were cat like they would have been called homo sapien felixis but they are not. Only their common name implies anything to do with cats.

More likely they just collected the cast and crew from all the touring companies of Cats onto an Ark and shot it off at random, Golgafrincham-style.

GW just gives two lines. That there's an abhuman race called Felinids and that they're native to and only found on Carlos McConnell and so are not allowed to leave (presumably so that their abhuman genes don't spread).

youtube.com/watch?v=iUuvHPr4BGk

Ok here's a better question for you all, abhumans are most likely created by the human population altering their genes to survive the planet that they have ended up in as tens of thousands of years is not enough time for evolution to result in such drastic variances like Ogryns or Ratlings. With that in mind, what kind of fucked up planet is Carlos Mconnell that you have become a cat to survive?

If this is the case then why aren't they considered beastmen? It makes far more sense for Felinids to merely have a few catlike features, especially as they are considered abhumans and not mutants.
Assuming that there is I would say that they would definitely possess superior hearing compared to regular humans, probably have night vision of some sort, and are likely stealthier than normal. However, I'd say that them being in the imperial guard is highly unlikely because they only live on a single world and their population is limited as a result.

Ogryns were useful. So the Imperium didn't confine them to a single planet. Instead, they were allowed to serve.

They are probably an exception, not the rule.

It also mentions there's like, 50 fucking billions variants of Ogyrn. So it's just as likely I think, that they popped up everywhere and the Imperium decided that they were too widespread bothering to contain.

this should have been posted sooner

Al lot of it is weird shit left over from the Dark Age of Technology. Who knows?, maybe some pervert had a pleasure planet of catgirls/boys and when he kicked the bucket/left/whatever the kitties all went native.

Okay, I'm gonna have to shoot you down here. Most of the time with humans describing groups as "hirsute" is a VAST overstatement, case in point the Ainu, and the Imperium is known to be rife with pseudoscientific conjecture, hearsay, and outright propaganda. You can't put too much stock in Imperial "science" because, at least from our perspective, it barely even counts as science. This is also more than thirty thousand years from now, and languages change over time: like in the Great Vowel Shift for example.

Point is we have no goddamn idea what any of this means "in canon" or in the writers' heads and anyone who tells you their view is somehow superior is full of shit.

Let's hope that their population never grows enough to allow them to create the Warp god of vanity

Aren't they confined to their planet?

Because beastmen (homo sapien variatis) are characterized by beastial features that range from individual to individual. They are not consistent to a specific feature in breading beyond beastial traits ie one has goat horns and a lion like muzzle but their offspring has avian features.

Abhumans qualify on two major points:
>not significantly divergent from the human form
>breed true
This is what separates from simple mutants with abhumans like beastmen barely qualifying and more often than not just purged as mutants on most worlds they appear on.

Lets see:

- Fur: The planet is cold.
- Ears: Something on the planet that doesn't make much noise that the colonists really wanted to keep track of. Maybe the food source consisted of hunting things living under the snow. Maybe a predator. Maybe a warning about if the ice is about to break.
- Eyes: Low light levels.
- Tail: Narrow paths along cliffs means the colonists needed some help keeping their balance.

So lots of mountain ranges.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Highlands
>The area is very sparsely populated, with many mountain ranges dominating the region, and includes the highest mountain in the British Isles,

is dat some red dwarf?

Yeah. But of all the pieces of 40k canon for people to get bitchy about and fight over, it's gotta be one of the most inane.

"Restricted", with no further details of what that actually means. Maybe that means a full quarantine, maybe that means they're not allowed to colonize, maybe it means their "natural habitat" is "restricted", maybe they owe a tithe, maybe they don't.

Again, literally ANY details anyone tells you are made up.

Well it actually says "Endemic and restricted". Endemic meaning that something is native or naturally restricted to a certain area. So it's save to assume they're not allowed to leave, otherwise "Endemic and restricted" is redundant.

Being that the other dominant abhuman taxonomy doesn't leave guesswork (minimus for ratlings, giganticus for ogryn, rotundus for squats) imperial science seems pretty concise with their names. Hirsute when referencing humans is different than it being used in taxonomy. If it isn't anything major than why is it a defining aspect in their name? Abhumans must diverge enough to be considered a stable mutation of the human genome, a subspecies. Minor differences like native cadian eye color being purple or soot black nocturne skin color or someone just being a hairy guy don't qualify.

Felinds probably have some feline features, propably vertical pupils or exaggerated canines, but the defining characteristic if we go by taxonomy is body hair above and beyond the human norm.

>Their
You mean "They're".

Endemic means native and localized to. It does not necessarily mean restricted to, especially when the "restriction" to the species in question is politically-enforced.

Again, for what feels like the millionth time, any other details someone offers you on this one are pure conjecture based on a few scraps of vaguely-worded nonsense.

Those felinids are my headcanon. Not goddamn catgirls, but literal half-cat, half-human... things.

>also wondering if this is the product possibly of our beloved Matt Ward and will we get a line of cat girl miniatures to bring them to the table?

I have some cool spacecatgirl minis, but I don't remember where I got them.

DIGGAKNOBS!

True, but the difference seems arbitrary if they are basically beastmen with consistent offspring that look similar to the parents. However, that might be why their entry in the codex is so short.

>the Space marines are technically mutants
Is their DNA fundamentally different than a baseline human's, or is it just the geneseed and all the extra organs stuffed inside them?

I mean, if you took a tissue sample from a Space Marine and made a clone and it wasn't 40k so the clone would actually be a viable human being wouldn't it just be a regular dude that had similar facial features to the donor?

I know it's asking a lot of you, but please try to realize that there is no single valid interpretation of something for which there are no actual details presented and no statements regarding the intent of the passage in question?

You have your headcanon. That's fine. It's not superior to anyone else's. Deal with it, nerd.

to be fair he actually is making a reasonable argument for why his headcannon is likely correct..

>They aren't even allowed to leave planet.
That's not what the word "restricted" means in that context.

They are mutated in a controlled fashion so I'm sure that unless you are a mad and immoral genius, you wouldn't be able to grow a space marine in a vat.

I vaguely remember reading some writefaggotry about a commissar and his retired regiment of felinids fucking over some Tau somewhere. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Maybe help a brother find it again?

>They are mutated in a controlled fashion so I'm sure that unless you are a mad and immoral genius, you wouldn't be able to grow a space marine in a vat.
No, I'm saying that Spaz Mureenz aren't technically mutants, because you could make a clone of one and it wouldn't be a Spaz Mureen. It would be a regular human, because they have regular human DNA with a bunch of other junk shoved in afterward.