Warhammer 40k general /40kg/

Dude looks like he's taking a selfie with the timberwolf.
Srsly me too. Although all this desperate hope is usually a bad sign.

Well put on your big boy pants and make the next general then, won't you?

The big problem Games Workshop has is that it's terrified of lasting victories for the villains that run the risk of showing up the Space Marines. At best, Xenos/Chaos receive Pyrrhic victories after smashing through a bunch of Imperial Guard/PDF/Sisters of Battle. At worst, they're set up so they can smash through a bunch of Imperial Guard/PDF/Sisters of Battle so they can get their arses handed to them by Space Marines.

Neither Chaos nor Xenos feel like credible threats because there's just so much damn Bolter porn. The rule of the setting has largely been that there is very little that cannot be beaten by the application of men in power armour (so long as they have Aquilias). In universe, this 'could' be balanced around the idea that whilst the Space Marines are brilliant at saving the day, there's just too damn few of them to act as the cavalry EVERYWHERE that needs it... however, it feels like the only worlds of any importance within the Imperium are Terra, Cadia (rip) and founding chapter homeworlds. So whenever we're told "oh no Nurgle's Rot/cultists/Tyranids/Orks destroyed [planet]!" it means nothing, because they're not Terra/Cadia/Macragge/Baal, etc. Hell, even with Fenris they couldn't give Magnus a complete victory, they had to wuss out with "y-yeah, it's corrupted real bad... b-but it's still there! They could probably recover!" just because GW were too spineless to take out a first founding Space Marine homeworld.

Meanwhile, Cadia gets blown up/sucked into the Warp/whatever finally but the actual way it's achieved only serves to make Abbadon look like a total moron. It's only two books later before the Imperium's trump card shows up and that's in the PROLOGUE.

Alright Anons, answer me this
>Are you hyped about 8e?
>Do you already know what army will you run when 8e hits the stage?
>Will it be your current army or you will build up the new one?
Also post you minis pics

Don't know who made this, but it's pretty great. The original "meme" was shit beyond measure but I like this one.

I am joining Chaos. There is no hope for me.

I'm going to be selling my Eldar, Salamanders, and Blood Angels.

Then buying Space Wolves.

Well this lore preview was quite the cop-out. We already knew everything mentioned in it anyway.

Hopefully tomorrow won't be as much of a disappointment.

>not Salamanders
You need to step up, user.

I hope the second wave of my Inquisitorial Battle Harem does not die to the primer. (That day I learn to never use white Vallejo spray primer)

Also one day I might finish paint this bitches.

Welcome to the good guys side. The opressionistic bad guys are really tough, and their Liche god stands out but eventually we will prevail.

>Yes
>Most likely AdMech because I'll not finish my Black Templars in time
>I own both already
>pic related were my first AdMech dudes

>Banshee
>She is playing Nids like the meme
>Not using Salamanders for the black kid.

At least use Kerrigan face and a salamander to make it more triggering

I created the original meme and this one

Eh, this makes more sense in context because it was a reference to Guilliman chasing after that eldar pussy

>melting of fenris' glaciers uncovered an ancient hive ship
>all the 'fossils' are actually nids

It's hilarious how butthurt the majority of Nid players are over GW not giving them decent rules for the last few editions. If you'd believe all their crying then it would appear that GW has made it it's business goal to make tyranids players' lives as miserable as they can.

Top kek.

>Are you hyped about 8e?
Very
>Do you already know what army will you run when 8e hits the stage?
Building a new tyranid army for 8th. Also, if they do do plastic sisters I will drop everything and go to that.
>Will it be your current army or you will build up the new one?
Bit of both. I don't intend on abandoning my skitarii or custodes entirely.

>Are you hyped about 8e?
Nope, but I am looking forward to it.

>Do you already know what army will you run when 8e hits the stage?
My Orks for sure and probably expand my Deathguard if the full release looks good

>Will it be your current army or you will build up the new one?
See above.

Those are Dreamweaver Valkyre with a head swap right? They look pretty good.

>hive ship encounters the local wild life
>is battleshocked to death

I still don't know enough about it to tell if I like it. I don't like the buffs to shooting and armor, but the new cover system makes more sense than the previous one. If Berzerkers are still Fearless and sanic fast I'll stick to my World Eaters. Otherwise if they fuck assault up too much I'll stay in 7th.

Never played 40k before but I've been growing more interested in the setting since my old favorite was unceremoniously killed off. I'm curious to see if 8th makes the game more approachable for someone who's never really done tabletop before. If so I'll pick up some crons. I've already started fluffing up some history for my army if I decide to get into it.

Marines and Im hyped for 8th

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AssAult is looking pretty buffed. I'm excited about it my brother from another legion.

Building my tank guard and cautiously optimistic about the rules and what lies in my new codex. It will be nice knowing the usefulness of the Eradicator is increased, hopefully it will continue to be a budget tank. Also looking forward to the high volume of fire my Manticore, Wyverns and Executioners turn into.

Remember the wailing and gnashing of teeth from Imperial players after the Eye of Terror worldwide campaign over a decade ago when the Forces of Disorder actually won? Conspiracy theories sprouted about how the non-Imperials "cheated" or were helped by GW, and then there were some players that simply outright refused to accept the results or tried to argue how the loss was really a win, or at worst a stalemate (despite the black and white in print results in WD by GW declaring the victory for Disorder). And yet there was none of this protesting over every single other worldwide campaign where the Imperium was the declared winner.

The problem right now is all the background fluff and novels have followed the template of initial Chaos/Xenos victories followed by the heroic Space Marines saving the day in the end. Do the opposite, and you will have accusations of the Imperium being the designated punching bag. Follow the template, and we have the issue of the non-Imperial factions being not seen as a real threat, and the expectation that the Imperium is always supposed to win. All the wailing over the Eye of Terror campaign I think stemmed from this inbuilt expectation of inevitable Imperial victory, and then getting a rude awakening.

The solution? I think GW needs to be more even handed in its focus on all the factions so that all factions can have significant victories, not just a one line mention of newly invented random planet being taken. The problem is increasingly GW seems to be vague and impressionistic in their descriptions of battles or even entire campaigns. GW now avoids giving numbers, dates, or other hard data. More and more now it just seems their battles devolve into skirmishes describing unit type A taking out enemy unit B and then enemy unit C taking out unit A, until the special characters move along the plot. The universe as a whole just feels smaller as now it seems only the big special characters matter at all.

If you had gone for orange instead of red those would be perfect.

The crying seems to come in cycles as GW releases things. CSM players were right pissy up until the million and one supplements came out to finally bandaid their fucked mess of a codex. Now it's Tyranid players' turns to be whineasses.

I was considering it but ultimately went with red because Mars and because I already had all the colors for that at home.

>ORANGE TRANSPARENT CHAINSAW

I'm impressed

Anything rules related they've shown so far is much easier than before and seems very much accessible, especially with them adding a "super casual" play option that will surely help beginners.

>Cron fluff
Whatcha got, senpai? Self made fluff for armies is always cool.

>no more +1 attack from pistol, have to wair until your next shooting phase to shoot it instead (assuming the enemy doesn't fall back)
>ranged units can just fall back so you get shot to pieces by another unit
Nope. Right now my only hopes are stat buffs to dedicated melee units and close combat weapons.

Dreamforce Valkire thingies indeed.

Man I loved that lego set back in the day. Now you made me want to start a mechanicus army and paint it in those exact colours, dammit.

Not that I ever got any lego though ...

nice white supremacist you got there

i fucking hate the fascist 40k community

Wait, wasn't this s lego line some 15 years ago? I remember having some snow explorer dudes with transforming vehicles that were cool as fuck.

I was waiting to see this post.

Now that you have shitposted leave please

I think GW should take a bit of the focus off the Imperium and marines vs Chaos for once. How cool would it be if the starter box for this edition was like, Nids vs Tau, or DEldar vs Necrons or something? It'd give them a chance to make some more cool scenario ideas and characters for the other races and flesh them out a bit more. Do a campaign of the Tau having to fight off a daemonic incursion into their empire now that it's surrounded by a massive warp storm or something, or a Tyranid campaign on that planet Gahzkull's on his way to that's locked in eternal war between Nids and Orks. Just let the Imperium and CSM take a back seat for just a little while to let the other factions' stories catch up a bit.

Pro tip: nids as such are going to be squatted, they will be to GSC as what stormtroopers are to IG.

Yeah dog.

It's never too late, user. People resell those sets even to this day. I was a rigorous collector tot back when those sets were new but I never managed to get the ice base HQ, bought it a couple years back for about $50 and completed the collection. Looks pimp on my shelf.

Ice Planet 2000, the kino of the plastic building bricks world.

I shall repeat my response from last thread.

I agree with almost everything you say, especially the last paragraph. It feels more like a wrestling league than a WARhammer game, everything is described like a skirmish no matter the size. I could fairly easily make a "fight template" that would work for every action in a recent campaign from a squad skirmish to a planetary campaign.

I will remark that not every Imperial player plays Marines and supports all the wank, though. I play Admech, and although they're technically a seperate nation we get rolled into Imperium. I would personally have us lose battles outright and win battles outright to winning an endless string of bland victories as the Marine's bitchboys #23423. Let the brave Skitarii march singing into the jaws of a Warp Rift, let them get ground down and the Forge World fall to Chaos or Orks or Deldar and have them spit oil in Death's eye. Then have them assault a Tau Sept or Craftworld and burn through the defenders the same way, not just "A fragment of Space Marine Chapter irrelevant saved the entire Forge World of X/Won this war against the Eldar with the slight assistance from an ENTIRE ADMECH FLEET OF MILLIONS. Space Marines being present in any way locks the battle into one predictable path, and not only destroys the enemies credibility but also that of the Marine's allies, since we just look incompetent at all times and are barely mentioned. I suspect a lot of Knight, Inquisition and Guard players feel the same way, and others.

Oh c'mon. Don't give him any (you)s - just report/hide and ignore it tho
>is much easier than before
This. Having to fuck with 200+ pages of rules hadn't make the game more complex but just more irritating to get into.

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Yes, Horde Nids, new one, used to play Nurgle Daemons.

>yes
>dark angels, more specifically death/ravenwing
>yep, it's the current army that i've been building for about a month now

The former hasn't been confirmed, it was just speculation as a "counterpart" to be able to shoot it in melee
For the latter it seems to be implied that there is some "price" to pay for it, speculated to be being shot at by the unit they are disengaging

>Marbo is back

and he's 25pts

my boner cannot be contained

>used to play Nurgle Daemons
Tell me about them user. I'm thinkig about running them both in 40k and AoS. Were they any good in 7e? Never played against desu

With the changes to vehicles, I wonder if Landspeeders will see more tabletop usage.
I for one welcome our heavy flamespeeder execution squads.

He's only back because of the unfunny forced 1d4chan maymays, unfortunately.

And he doesn't even have his fucking demo charge. What a shame.

Yes.
Of course. Carcharodons.
Army that I am currently building.
I have prepared 27 models that I will be primed and aibrushed before my departure for the summer. (with some limited painting supplies). Hopefully I can paint them all between the beginning of June and early October. It's my summer's objective

>can actually benefit from strong pistols like plasma, melta, handflamers in CC, rather than the statline you paid for ceasing to exist for "+1 attack at S/0AP"
>complaining that mindlessly tarpitting things to hide in melee is finally gone and screaming about edge cases that aren't going to happen often

Ah, mistook it for the Alpha Team sets for some reason.

Shame the rules are only for 7th edition

Will GW pull a Konami and start selling TCG cards instead?

I'm pretty hyped for 8th. I do have a number of armies built already, so it'll take a lot of time to adjust to the changes.

I might also start something new depending on where the rules fall. I've been looking towards guard or Orks

Aren't they already?

Why? Newbies want to play as space marines. space marines are the most popular army, space marines bring home the bacon. No reason to cater to xenos players.

They were alright, hardy but I'd struggle to reach things. Objective capping was hard, but if you got them it's a job getting you off them.

Someone seriously believes that twitter account is not a falseflag?

Yep, it's the secret business plan of Nu Goyims' Cuckshop

>only
>8th edition FAQ: literally all models we sell will have rules immediately on 8th edition release

the 7th rules are just for people who want to play him now, or for the few butthurts who will keep playing 7th, genius

MFW i played almost identical list few months back.

Well, I would like to play a 40k based TCG. I'm pretty suprised they didn't try to make it again

Shit my Repressor won't have rules.

Unless they mean all models that currently have rules will have rules for 8th?

doesn't need it when he can make most of the opponents terrain dangerous. Plus he can jump back into reserve now. He's based more around what he was supposed to be, sneaking in and slitting throats, whereas before he was a 65pt demo charge. I'd argue he's more useful now, at least if you play him smart. He'll be very handy at disrupting the back line and picking off support units.

Woah. They gave Genestealer Cults their own codex!? Cool!

You can tarpit, it's good for fending off melee units and if they keep sacrificing turns to retreat you've done the same job anyway, you can just get shot while you tarpit. It's a significant nerf, but it also means you can physically push units back and change tarpit targets/retreat to an objective when you want to deal with the enemy you've locked up. Personally I disagree with the Vehicle thing, the Template thing and the loss of Initiative, and I'm ambivalent about psychic powers, but this seems to make sense to me. At worst, it'll make things more mobile and interesting.

Marbo's not for sale.

There is one, or at least was one. I remember seeing a 40k TCG.

One player even had an Ork mat with the game logo. But I can't remember the name of it

He doesn't have a model anymore, the one in the stock photo is a kitbash.

I've always been wondering if there's any more to this image than "woman that has huge tits eating food with somebody".

>Unless they mean all models that currently have rules will have rules for 8th?
Yeah, they mean this. Look at the rules released today - it still has initiative. 8e rules will be released in quasi-compendium like in AoS

Only to get instantly squatted again next edition. Because everything Tyranid related is totally gonna get squatted.

Nope.

Now? As in for the last 10 years?

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name one guard player who actually used the Marbo model. Every guard player worth his salt converted his own Marbo. It used to be a right of passage, one of your models did something kickass and you converted him into your marbo.

Oh shit I didn't see your answer in the last thread.

Yeah I completely agree with you that GW's shit writing is also ironically making most Imperial factions look incompetent too, Imperial Guard most notably. I think now that GW is pretending to care about what the fans say we should all be vocal about this and demand their fluff to be held to much better standards. It's not just that Marines are invincible mary sues, but the writing in general has been greatly dumbed down in the military sense. We went from semi-realistic strategic showdowns with the occassional hero duel, to Herowood 40k where Guilliman, Yvraine and the rest of the superfriends team up against the evil Abbadon and his minions.

I want the broad, multi-lateral campaigns where each military force (not just each character) had it's own story to tell from 4th and backwards. I do NOT want some B-movie or cartoon where a few characters have personal duels in which none of them ever really dies and the outcomes are as predictable as the rest of the story.

Alrighty. It's a work in progress, lemme get a pastebin up.
pastebin.com/1QM4J2gR

Some art of the faction's Phaerakh by drawfag Ty. I've decided on a white-bronze-green-gunmetal color scheme for them, and she doesn't have her death-mask here, but then since we don't know what Necrontyr look like, she wouldn't.

What is your point?

I know one. But yah everyone made a Marbo.

I remember I dude that made Vietnamese catachan he used helicopter models as Chimeras and tons of flamers.

Cool guy. Sadly someone stabbed him and stole his army box.

It's really picking up in frequency these past few weeks is what I meant.

What the fuck is this clusterfuck of a drawing

He'll get rules for 8th

>all models avaliable will have rules
>avaliable
i love sly, but i dont think he will have rules for 8th, unless he gets a new release with new IG stuff

Well, yeah, I get the meme it's meant to be. Was just wondering if she's anyone noteworthy or just a busty girl doing a funny gesture.

That's nice. Want to mix them with new Death Guard. Hope that 2x SC box + DG half of starter set would be enough for 1000pts in 8e