/srg/ - Shadowrun General

After looking, I can't find anything official on the matter, but CGL sure as hell isn't taking feedback from their own forums, reddit, or /srg/.

He's using a quote from Bull as the title. It's not certain that the entire post is Bull's. It's certainly CGL-shilly enough to be though.

Oh.

Alright, no, that retard isn't actually affiliated in any way. He's taking a quote from Bull out of context and using it in his post to sound official, but he's not actually related.

Well, not publicly at least.

Essence drain addiction mentions in the core rulebook only mentions a "willing" victim needs to make an addiction test. This isn't mentioned in Run faster and it seems it's outright implied it's not mandatory. What do?

I would say that no one sucking CGL's cock that much would do it for free, but they still have freelancers working for them.

Would you waive an addiction test if someone forced a character to take drugs, or shot them with capsule rounds just because they weren't willing?

I know CGL's editing and consistency is shit, so I won't bust your balls over it.

Freelancers don't actually work for free, user.

Sure, but CGL freelancers aren't paid anyway, so they might as well work for free

Could you head over to CGL HQ and explain that to them?

The joke.
Your head.

I know that, CGL doesn't though. They stiffed their freelancers and they still have people working for them.

You've got a point there- I guess that'll be the case then

>Hunt blood mages for money?

This one always seemed like a bad idea, honestly. Trying to find someone who at best a wizkid with a sadistic streak, and at worst is an experienced serial killer with awesome magical abilities fuelled by death, and a long history of staying underground and out of sight. The easy marks are still going to be a challenge to find and neutralize while they are still easy (given that there's no rhyme or reason where they would turn up on the entire planet), and the rest get strong fast. You need some serious resources and firepower to go about cold-hunting blood mages as a career.

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kekerino

What's your ride /srg/? Surely you don't take public transport?

Currently in a toss up between playing two types of street samurai.

One is a Ork Transhuman Prototype, who's sort of like Bane using the narco genemod and Kamikaze to level the playing field when shit hits the fan. Had a Rage Trooper sort of vibe. Heavy assault, not subtle in the slightest. He's motivated by a need to fix his Insomnia/Genetic Defect. Sort of like a Ork version of pic related, but with a pacifistic streak, half of why he escaped his handlers is because he wants to believe he's more than a weapon.

Or a Troll Urban Brawl star that Shadowruns because he craves the highlife, his current Day Job+Fame+Digital Witness set up only gives him access to a Low Lifestyle, but he wants that Luxury Living. Wearing a tuxedo to the opera and eating real beef for every meal.

I've got the mechanics down largely, I guess I'm just having trouble picking between the 2 or developing them deeper.

Flip a coin omae. It never hurts to have a backup character ready in Shadowrun, neh?

>Not taking the train

Tricked out Mirage.
Question: why does the Kaburaya have 2 less armor and cost twice as much?

have a look at the latest errata on the forums, goodman's been busy

When using send message to drones, can you send the same message to multiple drones, or is that really what the swarm program is intended for?
So, for example, I send one message to 4 rotodrones and a duelist to charge a guy, while using my other send message action to tell another drone to bodyguard an ally or something.

Yeah. You can do that with Send Message.

Swarm is mostly for defensive purposes (because it's a program and the benefits it gives, you can put some autosofts on the drones and just keep all your programs for defense purposes, raising firewall and perhaps Sleaze if you modded that in) and occasionally for the dice bonuses.

Unless you do lots of ultra-low mod drones. In that case you probably run swarm to get (DR-1) extra dice and extra limit.

is joek?

Thought as much, excellent.
Final thing, when using Control Device action to remotely control a drone (say you want a higher die pool for a drone firing their weapon, so you use your Gunnery + Logic via Control Device) does that also use up the drone's action that IP, or can they act again after you've controlled them?

It basically takes away command long enough that the drone's action is used up.

However, two people can technically both control a drone as long as they don't give commands that are contradictory. It's usually not that useful, but it can be done if I'm reading things right.

>It basically takes away command long enough that the drone's action is used up.
Does it say this?

Yes. Control Override on p 265. Now, if you had some way to raise up the autopilot in the command hiearchy, then it would fall under something like what's said on 267 under Group Commands and Jumping Around. (That also implies, possibly if read wrong, that even a Control Device action is made on your action and happens on the drone's. It's probably something to be ignored if only to simplify book keeping and record tracking.)

>having to escort a top doctor and a turncoat of the Finnigan Family
>the information he knows can rat out several key members of their group, so obviously they want him dead, so to that end they've placed a bomb in his head that the good doc has to cut out and defuse, so they need to get somewhere secure for the operation
>after a chase down the streets in a roadmaster, we arrive to a secure KE location
>everything's fine for a while
>suddenly explosions fucking everywhere
>it was an inside job
>the guy was pretending to be a nurse to get close to the doc and the Finnigan and he's on kamikaze, and an adept, so he'd ludicrously strong and tricky to hit
>manages to almost tear the doc's arm off with a mono-whip, almost has her dead to rights
>enough is enough, I decide my street sam should burn her edge, suddenly leaping across to plunge her cyber spurs into the fucker's neck
>faced with bleeding out or sticking around, the guy chooses to flee
>the doc manages to act dead, fooling the rest of the hostiles, which we clean up easily
>mfw my street sam effectively saved the entire run
>she later helped the doc with the operation and everything went off without a hitch

Tell me about the times you had to burn edge, Chummers.

i've never played an RPG but i'm really attracted to shadowrun setting. but i've heard the system is really hard to learn and not friendly at all to people with no prior RPG's experience. is this true?
if not, what's the best edition of the game to learn as a newcomer?

Yes it's complicated. 5e is the most recent one, you'll find the most discussion and help for it. Get books from pastebin in OP.

5E is really best to learn as a newcomer, if only because there are more people familiar with it and able to explain the clusterfuck that are Shadowrun rules.

good! just saw in the pastebin that there is a kind of starter set for 5e (beginner box) and an intermediate set (alphaware). i'll grab these and the core rulebook and start reading them in order. worst that can happen is that i'll just get entertained with the books. thanks!

The starter stuff is not actually that great. Alphaware is alright, but the other one is garbage selling you the free quick-start rules in poor formatting.

I would say go right into core and tough it out, regressing to Alphaware if you really have to.

i saw two versions of the core rulebook, one says 2nd printing and the other master index edition. which one should i grab?

Master Index is the newest version, with an index that references all the splats to look for other rules/gear.

5e Matrix questions:
1) If you set a data bomb on a file and have the biofeedback program running, would that cause the data bomb to do biofeedback damage when opened or is there no way to deal "real" damage with a data bomb?

2) Lets say a device(controlled by a decker in hot-sim) has only 2 boxes on it's matrix condition monitor and is hit with a data spike with the biofeedback program dealing 6 damage after the resist roll. Does the decker have to resist just the 2 damage that the device could take before bricking or the full 6?

1.) No, biofeedback only works with attacks you make, not with databombs.

2.) I'd say the decker resists the full six damage. The fact that the deck overloads and goes kaput is somewhat irrelevant considering how fast matrix damage is delivered and how delicate brainmeats are.

Of course, I'm probably wrong and a faggot, but that's my take on the rules.

I once burned edge fleeing from the terminator inside a sewer. Used commanding voice to have him handcuff himself and kneel and then I ran like the bitch i am because I only had one stun and one physical box left.

Not dramatic, but I at least lived to fight another day.

Jesus fuck that took long enough. Okay, next build of Chummer should have all of the content from Forbidden Arcana. Moderate chance I missed some stuff or fucked up the bonuses, I don't have an abundance of time to test it at the moment.

Yekka, the fact that a new book can get released and be integrated in chummer within a few days is already great and you should know that we are really thankful for you doing that.

God bless you, Yekka.

Post more cute girls

Mostly I'm just standing on the shoulders of giants; at some point it'll actually be easy for regular users to do this without needing two years of deep-diving into the codebase to understand what everything does.

Anyhoo, some of this shit is ridiculous. Draconic tradition where your drain attribute is WIL + MAG, Romani where it's WIL + WIL(!), weird fucking blood crystal augmentations that remove your ability to poop...

>Draconic tradition where your drain attribute is WIL + MAG, Romani where it's WIL + WIL(!)
Okay, the draconic tradition I can kinda understand, given that they are magic their entire life and basically eat, dream, breathe magic it fits that their connection with magic helps them reduce drain. Would also explain why they can cast so well.

But having the romani tradition, the tradition of a subgroup of humans, only depend on one attribute is kinda crazy. Raising WIL gives them two dice instead of just one and they don't have to increase their other attributes to soak well. What is the reasoning that they can do this (if there even is one)?

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Not really. They have a restriction against casting Health spells, so there's that.

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The cutest!

My operator girls folder got accidentally moved into the unsorted morass of my picture dump folder. This is an issue.

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Have any ork or troll grills, Yekka?

>when yekka is dumping qts
How does one man become so based?
Here's one of my own in exchange.

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Not many, just like Chica and such.
It's hardly a new thing.

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Immortan Johannes a qt

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