Kingdom Death Thread

Last thread died, but we eat our dead for resources.

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>Doesn't even us the cannibal picture

Oh user...

Anyway, I enjoyed that last thread. Got to talk and think through a lot of stuff.

Also, the reason Spidicules is good for Cooking is that it gives a chance to pull an event that has a chance to roll for a Vermin? I was hoping that you could use Silk to substitute for one ingredient, or gain a movement as a bonus or something..

To the user asking about The Hand, I can't say. My friend and I both lost high courage guys because we only had 6 survivors we cared about and were fine losing 2 instead of 4 to the Timeline event.

>Not going Grave + Protect the Young

Do you even light in the darkness?

But do you Accept the Darkness or Collective Toil?

Cooking is shite because the expensive recipes only effect a single survivor for a small boost. It's not even useful to PotStars unless you're so horribly suffering in dragon traits and desperately need constellations.

We picked Toil but it's not great.

Is it gay to want to breed the Anonymous Survivor?

Cuz I wanna breed the Anonymous Survivor.

The Evasion recipe is basically worth it. You can fight the antelope with the right gear and have a good chance to get everything you need for it. If you can toss Salt into it, then it's pretty great.

The survival bump also means you can safely roll on Nightmare Training... It requires some build up, but it's a better choice than say... Partnership.

There's nothing wrong with the want.

Well the sorry fact is that before she obtained the belt, he was attacked by a maneater bug and had his genitals replaced with smooth skin. She didn't magically regenerate a vagina upon wearing the belt.

Quick! Claim your KDM waifu/husbando!

Thief is CLAIMED.

Call me biased.

>stealing my wife
RUDE!

All mine!

TOM is a total GDILF.

I guess I'll take the Bone Witch. She knows what it takes to survive in the darkness. Plus she can teach me at least two fighting arts, AND how to run away and leave other people to die.

Exactly how does herb gathering work? You replace an empty hunt space with the even entirely, right? And even if you only have 1 gathering tool, you still roll 4 times? But only the survivor with the tool gets to go forward if you roll high enough?

I feel like im braindead and its super simple but it doesn't seem to explain it well.

I think you don't replace the space. It just happens before whatever would normally happen.

Each survivor rolls any number of dice, but if you get any doubles, it negates the entire roll. You add them together and if you're over... 75 I think, it will let any survivor with a sickle go into the swamp.

The swamp is awful, never go into it.

Really? Swamp seems pretty ok in general. It's the caverns that seem awful for the mining event. Seems like you have about a 99% chance of just not coming back from there, whereas the swamp has a pretty good chance of at least walking out.

What about when you get make that roll in the swamp that says something like "you find a clearing" and i forget the exact wording but it says something about showing the others what you found and then roll again...I assume at that point it means even people without a sickle gets to join? Without the event itself in front of me I can't remember exactly, but I just feel like a lot of the event is sort of vague.

So...saviors?
What the fuck is going on there?
Mostly lore wise.
Also, I chose green.
I was thinking blue, but then I saw that it's a luck for each Milestone, so that's like 3 max, and then that's the last of them.
Although fuck, I guess that doesn't matter much if you've got at least a deadly weapon and the right tools otherwise to farm crit locations. Shit, I could really use more hides, too.
I want takesies backsies.

anyone got the link to the archived thread?

It wants you to think that.

So go to the swamp, which is tougher to get than the Acanthus or Acanthus+Vermin, you get to roll on another table which has an effective, 11% chance of killing you, a 20% chance of killing you or costing you a survival, which may well kill you in the fight. An effective 20% chance to re-roll and possibly waste more survival in the process. A 10% chance to get an Acanthus, which you could have already gotten without risking death. A 10% chance for speed, which is a low-tier, not super great stat. Or a 9% chance to get a permanent affinity. Oh and if you already have one, then it's death.

Effectively, there are three reward rolls on the swamp. One is no good, one is what you could have already had, and the last still has a chance to kill you.

Who is aching for permanent affinities so badly that you'd give them what could be a 31% chance of death?

Compared to the Worm Tunnels...
30% chance the monster moves a space away. Sucks, but as long as it doesn't leave(1.5 doesn't let monsters leave the hunt board anyway), it's no big deal.
40% chance you lose 2 survival. Sucks, but if you have Herb Gathering and don't go into the swamp, you can get 1 of those back.
30% chance to gain an iron or go into the Crystal Lake for 2 survival.

Crystal Lake...
20% chance to get natural armor and lose your current armor gear. Sucks, but it can combo with other stuff well.
20% chance to lose 3 survival and gain 3 insanity. Sucks but manageable. Especially if you have Peerless.
20% chance to gain 1 iron.
40% chance to gain 2 iron.

You know what wasn't there? A chance to die. Admittedly, the further in you go, the higher the risk/reward skews, but you're not forced to go further in. And you also have several people rolling on the Worm Tunnels.

Minor inconvenience. When Tyrant wants to see you breed then see you breed he shall.

Well, when you put it like that...

I should mention I wasn't saying that I WANTED to go into the swamp necassarily. I think I just got the impression that the caves are death cause of the last section, which gives you 3 insanity to enter, and then I think it's like a 50% chance to roll for your death if you're insane (which you now are for going in). That's a good breakdown though and definitely shows me the flaws in my thinking, thank you.

Though speaking of that even in the cave, it's shit like that that makes me think it should take more to be insane considering how easy it is to wrack up insanity vs losing it. It seems like all my survivors are pretty constantly insane assuming they've been out of the settlement at all. I feel like the "insane" cap should be increased to 4 or 5...but that would probably throw the balance of a lot of stuff way off and isn't worth adjusting.

I forgot, if you're deaf, you have a chance to die in the Worm Tunnels.

Game-wise, Green and Blue are considered the best. 3 luck means you'd be critical hitting on a 7, which is a 40% chance. Combine that with a Luck stone and you're at 50%. Have Axe Mastery in the settlement and you're critical hitting all day against most monsters.

And even if you don't want to abuse the White Lion loop, you can still use Augury to get a pretty solid chance of Understanding.

I'm not trying to nerd bully or anything. But I don't think the swamp has good enough rewards to justify going into it. I mean... you sacrifice a chance for a fairly common/easy resource and risk death for either that same resource, or +1 speed or +1 affinity which is super specific to plan around.

The mines/tunnels/caves at least offer a rare reward for possibly janking up your survivor. If you don't have a Storm, I have no idea how you'd get most of the Blacksmith gear, otherwise.

>Not blinded
>He's not fixing her genitals

C'mon, man...

Cooking is for incredibly late game 100+ survivors infinite sacrifice settlements to buff survivors to fight level 3+ monsters.

in terms of how early you get them
>year 1-2
Red since actually hitting+ wounding monster can be hard at this stage.
>years 3-10
Blue since Resource Farming/monster disabler, don't lose anybody running with blues
>11-25+
Green is best here since you presumably can possibly make one ageless, and an ageless fucker wearing full gorm, leather shield, and monster grease is something like 11-12 armor,w with +5 evasion possibly even ignoring other stat builders, that can't get critically wounded, and don't have irreplaceable gear so they can be replaced EZ.

Was there ever Word of God confirming that it only affects one survivor and not all survivors?

also the reason why it's 11+ for green rather than 13+ is conviction is fucking HARSH if you have a heavy stock, and losing all your now dead blue saviors stock of critical farming would like being punched in the dick.

Lore wise... here's what we know:
The Saviors are, for whatever reason, tied to the dream realm of an Entity called the Ethereal Dreamer. Entities are basically gods in the Kingdom Death setting. We're aware of at least ten of them, but beyond being powerful reality warpers with no real concern for other life, we don't know much.

The Saviors go into the dream world of a god, and live an entire, probably very interesting life there. The three dreams/flavors are probably related to what happened to them there. They come back a second after they left with memories of their other life and some of the power of the dream.

Survivors only seem to actually age past their prime, as they expend themselves in combat. Saviors are blessed with incredible powers that make them burn out much faster. Pre-KDM lore indicates that this is normally a slower process than what we see in the game. They seem suicidally driven to try and improve mankind's lot, and maybe are actually intoxicated by the hope they inspire. There's indication that everytime they sleep, they go back to the Ethereal Dreamer's realm, that the stronger they become, the more of the dream they are, until when they "burn out" entirely, they are pulled into that endless dream they once escaped.

The current build has it affecting a single survivor.

Though the assurance of that is, somebody who, "definitely asked Poots once, before."

When in doubt, Rule of Death.

What are the other Entities?

The eight constellations from dragon expansion, Goblin, Gambler, etc

...

Whoops, also spoilers!!

I don't remember all of them...

Ethereal Dreamer. The source of the Saviors.
Scribe. The source of... probably most of the survivors, and the Kings, their Hands and the Kingsmen. He writes you into existence, that's why you have ink on your face and are physically perfect and attractive.
The Goblin. If he exists. Who is sort of like Death mixed with Loki.
The Golden Entity. Source of the Lion Knight, and maybe the Gold Smoke Knight too. Barely in the KDM setting at the moment, but it really likes White Lions and seems to be grotesquely masculine.
Satan. Who is currently wandering around as hermaphrodite incest twins covered in tongues and seducing dudes while women fume at them, but will eventually reveal itself as a giant ivory dragon.
A few others get mentioned. One is quadripedal, has a city on its back and calls people from other realities(settings) into Kingdom Death to fight gladiator matches on it. There's another that was just a dick to some survivors that worshiped it and got killed for that. The Great City has at least one Entity in it... the Surgeon I think? One of the crossover minis mention the Vermillion Raven as an entity.

I think also...
The Storm definitely is. The Witch and all the other Constellations might be. The Gambler, at least, exists, has a physical presence and visible powers... but an update will let you fight him, so who can say if he's really an Entity or just a high powered creature like the Hand? Poots said before one of the reasons he cancelled Lantern Festival is that he didn't think fighting the Scribe was right for KDM's power level.

So, I haven't played dragon god...

Do you draw these randomly? Because if not, what is the point of the goblin constellation, other than that cheery KDM flavor.

Also this guy

So pretty much this entire setting just has a bunch of cosmic parasites who can manipulate fate, and actively blight reality just by existing, actively making things worse for everyone, and aren't even limited to a single universe? How has anyone managed to survive for so long in this world?

Compete and total spoilers:
You play bingo with specific abilities you get. As soon as you get four in a row, you get the constellation in question.
If you happen to get the four that lead to Goblin, you get lolkilled. First time is obviously intended as a 'goddamnit KDM' thing, while also ending up as something that could still happen by accident.

Late to respond but pondscum tomoko is best

The absolute best
>>dat look of disdain, dem tits, dat panties fluff

Imagine how happy your parents were to bring life into this world, and two decades later they have to watch you get fat and play with embarrassingly expensive pornographic models.

My dad grew up on D&D, almost failed school because of it, and probably had elf maiden fantasies. There are no new cycles, only repeating ones, user.

Hot, you just know she'd force you to shave her pubes and rub her down with oil, only to kick you in the balls, wad up the pubes and wipe her ass crack with them, then shove it in your mouth; finished by holding your eye lids open and poking your eye with an erect oiled nipple

That's very specific...

Sheltering as resources mostly?

The Surgeon seems to do it because it finds the Machiavellian stuff and incredibly complicated society that the Great Game Hunters have to be funny.

Not trolling, is there a way to avoid all the softcore porn stuff? This game looks interesting, but goddamnit guys all I see are barely contained bosoms.

If you are playing online all I can say is click past it. I know that is what my group does since it is kinda weird to linger on that art with the boys.

Play the actual game instead of looking at the pinups?

I mean... in game, there's one dead monster with its dick out, which is vaguely funny, but everything else is basically caveman aesthetic with the base models.

The totally separate pinups skew the perception of how much naked ladies there are. Standard game has male and females with comic book body exaggeration but clothed, just use a Monopoly piece instead of the dead monster token to avoid seeing dick. The rule book has some tits and add, but just shield your Christian eyes or hide the book from your mom and photocopy the rules. Easy peasy

Nope, the game rules literally forces you to stare at cocks and tits and base your dice roll modifiers off the hairs and veins you count

>The Surgeon seems to do it because it finds the Machiavellian stuff and incredibly complicated society that the Great Game Hunters have to be funny.

That's even worse. So it literally just takes amusement out of all the horror and terror the Great Game Hunters inflict upon others? Considering how the great Game Hunters usually operate, that makes this thing especially vile. Still not as bad as Satan/The Ivory Dragon though, but that's not saying much.

Here's a collection of most of the pre-KDM lore, by the way.

vibrantlantern.com/lore/twilight_order/

And yeah. I mean... it's called Kingdom Death, and one of the central conceits is that human are roughly on the same level as mice in the setting.

The only safe prey we see for humans, are bugs and some fish. And even those can kill you sometimes.

Honestly, Kingdom Death is probably one of the few settings that I can say is genuinely darker, and more bleak than 40k. Atleast in 40k there's some vague sense of hope, of salvation from the dark. Here? Best case scenario, you get eaten by a Gorm.

I mean that's more true for 40k circa 4th ed, with the current plot developments it's downright nobledark.

Paradise worlds used to be a thing since 1st ed. There always were people in 40k that could have nice things.

any user have an idea on how to make usable tall grass terrain? Broom bristles in L shapes on the boarders of little card tiles? Anyone tried?

Important Question:

Do any of the models they sell on the store have rules in Monster? This is important because I need to know if I can base them for display or I should make a gaming compatible base in order to be able to use them.

My friend told me we should play this, is it any good?

I enjoy it. Easiest way I can describe it is Darkest Dungeon + Monster Hunter as a board game.

Well shit I loved monster hunter on the PSP
I did try darkest dungeon once, but I never managed to be good at it

Take the brutal difficulty and change dungeon crawling to hunting phase. You build up a settlement and sometimes get fucked over by events as you build it up.

Showdowns are your monster hunter, hacking away with weapons you strapped together from various parts and dancing around in an attempt to control the monster before it pastes you.

Monster Hunter soundtracks really spice up the fights and fit well for the more bestial enemies.

No I was more referring to pic related.

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>DD
>brutal difficulty
The game is only hard when you have no idea what you're doing. And somewhat on NG+ due to time/death limit.

I mostly just mean the "roll low, you died." stuff on a fair number of events

Wait I'm retarded, thought you were talking about KDM.

DD is hard in that you just might get shit on sometimes if you are unlucky and if you don't memorize or have the wiki open for curious.

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If it wasn't for knowing a little bit of the setting, I would have thought it was literally Hell.

I'm still not entirely convinced it isn't. I mean, Satan IS part of the setting.

Is there any way to play this by yourself on TTS?

I've got it, it just seems overwhelming.

inb4 sad man.

Yeah, I do it all the time.

Open up the rule book (there's two spots they spawn on) and read through the First Story... or the Prologue. It will walk you through how to get started.

Is there anywhere I can read the back ground fluff and rules?

I bought Arya beyond the wall but have no idea about the actual gameplay or fluff

Look in the thread and find this post:
The website has most of the pre-KDM lore. There's a web document somewhere that collects stuff that was revealed early on in the first kickstarter. All the other lore is in the game books and cards.

Is there any place keeping an up to date full list of every single KD model ever released?

After pledging satan I'm curious to see how many minis I would need to find to own the entire KD range ever.

Reposting from the previous thread:

How big does a stone face get? Also do they have different features or are they all the same sleek expressionless face?
Also what colors do they come in?

I am asking to get ideas for basing - haven't played the game yet so please do not spoil.

The faces are different.

Survivors can find their own faces in the ground. Or faces of lost friends/allies.

Definitely seems like Hell. The closest things to heroes this world even has are the Twilight Order, and the White Saviors, with the former slowly but surely dieing off, and the latter burning up far too quickly to make a difference.

thank

Damn, that lighting!
If I ever get the physical game, I might have to start getting into painting.

KD models use the same bases as KDM models. Some may have special inserts, but otherwise fit the same.

Models that come with gameplay elements explicitly display them on their pages. The majority of them have to be house-ruled into the game, but a few are easy insertions via the hunt event deck or settlement event deck.

The achromatic scripted v2 is nuts for how much is there.
It has three separate spots for a fancy 'tabbed' manual, so you can leave the glossary open in one place, the showdown in another, and what have you in the third.
Doing the Firsty Story is a great introduction to the showdown and settlement phases, and after that, with just the glossary open, that's like 85% of the rules.

vibrantlantern.com/lore/plain_of_faces/
Are we never getting the two models at the top, then, if the lantern festival was canceled?
Also, why and how?

I don't quite follow.

For example, can the Forsaker, the white speaker, percival, order knights, or any other store model be used in KD:M with their own --official-- rules included in KD:M?

Or are they just pretty tokens?

The models were released long ago.

Both were released in resin, the plastic molds have also been cut for both models, so it is extremely unlikely that they will not find a use in a future project.
The cost of having those molds made is simply too great to have them gathering dust for long.

They are part of the setting, but may get rules in the future. Some of these models will likely be used for a more class focused game that Adam once referred to as Kingdom Death: Heroes.

The models are just models you can use for survivors as you'd like.

Percival and Fade, for example, are found dead by your survivors when you encounter their events, and you have a chance to gain their fighting art or gear during those hunt events.

This isn't a wargame where every model is used for something, and even then those are just "pretty tokens" in their own right. The models themselves in KDM have about the same amount of rules as models you'd buy from WotC for D&D.

If it's not an Expansion (or promo "mini expansion" like the 1.5 crossovers and user Survivor) then models on the KD store are to be treated as models first, and any gameplay content included is for minor shits and giggles.

Alright, so I can just mount them on display bases and keep them in my vitrine, never to be seen on the game mat.

That's dirty but you're entitled to do what you want with your miniatures.

Incredibly so.
The achromatic one talked about is what I'm using right now, and I've had maybe 2 issues that were easy to fix over 2 campaigns.

God I love the designs of the Kingsman and the Hand.
They're just so good, even when unpainted.

>go to hunt a level 2 antelope, barely ready for it but I need some survivor kits
>white lion event on the second space
>roll +8
>immediately white lion, also no mineral gathering or herb since I put them after OD
Why this.

KMFD:M'd

What?

Git gud

Are you one of those people that think that all models are for gaming?

As it turns out, I did.
>started out with monster corpse on the field
>Panic first couple rounds, spend survival constantly to avoid grab/dodge as much as I can
>Crit the monster so much it ended up with enough - movement tokens that it only had 2 movement
>just kited it around the board while picking up dead monster and survivor corpse
>end up nearly exhausting it's resource deck/having it bleed out from a persistent injury.
Feels fucking Good.
Might even be able to make 2 full leather sets or something.

They seem to range from human sized to gigantic ones that you can stand on. Even the faces on the bases for the monsters that have them are different sizes from the ones on the survivor bases. I've been resin casting the various monster bases and survivor bases, and cutting them up to use for monsters that have a plain base. Lion knight is great for this because of the ones with all the different expressions to stick in. I don't have a picture handy other than this one though. I may go take pics of the butcher or something where I did the whole base if people want to see.