Magic: The Gathering Modern General (Competitive Discussion)
This thread is for the competitive discussion of the modern format. Kitchen table discussion is not welcome, but they don't read OPs anyway. For reference the average deck will run you anywhere from $400-$2000.
the more dollar signs the less kitchen top babies right
Caleb Johnson
if mill is bad, then good decks are fuckin like 900~$
I just want a fun deck that doesn't bust my fucking balls and fun to play
Juan Cook
there are plenty of decks that are under $900 that are fine to play.
Burn is ~600 Skred is 300-400 Titanshift is 600 Affinity is ~600 Storm and dredge are both ~500 Merfolk is 500
I can go too, those links in the OP aren't just for show you should try using them.
Lincoln Sanchez
>This thread is for the competitive discussion of the modern format. Kitchen table discussion is not welcome, but they don't read OPs anyway.
Man, we didn't get THAT much kitchen table shitposting before. All this really accomplishes is now we get a whole other breed of shitposting which is a whole lot more toxic and pretentious
>post about any deck >this is $$$$$$$$ COMPETITIVE $$$$$$$$ general, fuck off
8Whack seems like the leap that makes it more consistent and slightly slower, but is it possible to make the deck even faster without having to mulligan to five every game?
Charles Watson
there needs to be a general for casual modern discussion and competitive discussion, but there's be good way to maintain. we had a kitchen top general a few days ago that went fine, something like that, but geared towards casual modern play/budget modern.
Logan Taylor
Well before it was >how do I make my [pile of shit] more competitive? I don't expect to win a GP but i'd like a chance at CNN! >what do you mean add a play set of coco/aether vial/[expensive staple] >fucking net deckers holy shit I just want to play modern without spending a fucking fortune this place is awful modern sucks WAAAAAAAH
If the dollar signs keep those people out, I'm fine with ironic shitposting taking it's place
Angel Anderson
Fucking new phone hasn't learned my slang yet. FNM FNM FNM FNM FNM FNM FNM FNM
Levi Ward
Waifu edition? Whos your MtG waifu? Mines Swiftspear
Isaiah Campbell
Skred is 300
Daniel Foster
Is Merfolk actually actually a deck or is it just the same as earlier in the format where it looked like a deck but then just drew islands all game and did nothing?
Jack Hughes
I think you mean >post about any shitbrew >this is $$$$$$$$ COMPETITIVE $$$$$$$$ general, fuck off
And nothing of value was lost. These people just need to learn to make a kitchen table/casual thread and realize that most of the time they're posting their stuff in the wrong thread
Caleb Jenkins
Modern is shit.
Matthew Ramirez
It's a meme you dip
Cameron White
It's decent right now because it can attack a manabase easily enough which is good right now and it's also fairly redundant too.
Evan Johnson
merfolk is a fine consistent deck. in order to fix your draws you can run thassa, which a good part of the time is also a 5/5 indestructible creature, also you draw a lot of cards with silvergil adept and spreading seas
Jayden Martinez
Go play something else?
Kayden Roberts
I like Magic though.
Zachary Foster
Kill yourself
Samuel Smith
I meant a different format
Andrew Morales
you know I made a modern budget deck, and I got my ass kicked, granted, I did well sometimes going 2-3 but their cards were better, I didn't play perfectly so that isn't a blanket excuse.. but it is what it is.
I just can't force myself to just dump $400 on something that fluctuates so wildly in price, and the possibility that it may be banned or a piece is banned and is no longer viable.
Ryder Russell
I think, perhaps, your comment was uncalled for.
Jeremiah Cook
Fuck off you sensitive bitch
Leo Taylor
It doesn't fluctuate in price "wildly" you only see price changes when something gets reprinted (lol) or banned. Just don't invest into something that's likely to be banned based on previous B&R announcements or build something that can be easily made into another deck.
Blake Harris
Storm is bad now that Probe is banned. It went from Tier 3 to Tier 8.
Mason Barnes
Thoughts on Kithkin in modern?
Jayden Harris
I was really apprehensive about buying into competitive magic too, but once I took the plunge I didn't regret it. Just try one of the popular sub-1k decks and see what you think. Outside of 3 color good stuff piles modern is relatively cheap at the moment.
Bentley Cook
UR storm is literally tier 1 you fucking caveman
Daniel Rivera
Nice meme retard, BaralGifts storm is actually a decent deck right now.
I'm honestly surprised the deck is still alive after this many bannings
Charles Jones
You're a subhuman Mongoloid if this is funny to you
Jaxon Ross
>the no friends that play magic to meme with Are you guys my friends?
Jack Allen
wow. i love that art. makes me feel bad i dont run elspeth in knightfall
Cameron Rivera
RIP Infect.
David Young
I don't support this price situation. It's pretty much terrible.
That being said, WR Burn will never ever go down in price. Even if they reprint the cards it still won't go down in the long-run. Even if they ban cards the cost to replace what you have is minor compared to any other deck. You'll drop a match because you don't have G but who gives a fuck.
$25 Goblin Guides now the lowest it's ever going to be. I used to get them for a dollar but this card is more or less Tarmogoyf in all ways but the actual price.
Ian Cook
tier 1
Samuel Barnes
I actually have 12 goblin guides, didn't know they were valuable.
Joseph Price
>storm is tier 1 I mean, I've known it for a while, I just still can't believe. Why won't that deck just fucking die and stay dead?
Camden Jenkins
I play Skred I don't consider the deck an "investment," but Blood Moon, Snow-Covered basics, etc will only go up in price
Plus I got Blood Moons when they were low
Why is chandra, TOD so expensive...
Ian Perry
Is xmage available for Android devices?
Levi Walker
Rocking this, thoughts?
Levi Cooper
All Xmage needs to run is Java so I guess it hypothetically could, but if you are gonna play Xmage on your phone you're a fucking jackass.
Cameron Robinson
would a jace unban be enough to pull blue out of its rut?
Adam Davis
Looks like Jund to me. I do like the Thundermaw in the side, being able to wipe a board of Lingering Souls and smash for 5 is good. Doesnt die to Bolt or Push either.
Aaron Gray
I love memes
Sebastian Ramirez
but not pixels it would seem
Lincoln Butler
It feels super strong right now. Good in the mirror, against Death's Shadow who brings in souls against us, just a solid card and top end.
should i change the serum visions for 4x think twice for card advantage? also, I need help on sideboard
Oliver Foster
>15Mpx >looks like straight up ass
phone cameras were a mistake
Daniel Ross
Is skred even worth it in this current meta? I was going through some cards and came across my playset of skred but fuck me trying to find enough snow mountains.
Ethan Reed
I'm just shit at taking pictures. This should be better.
Jason Wilson
Still looks like complete ass. >bogles
Jonathan Cox
I'd personally run more Kcommand but I don't know what your meta looks like so maybe that's not a great call. Also I feel like going either huntasmter or kalitas is better than the split imo. If you're going to run Cleetus you might want to run some more cards to squeeze value out of him like Slaughter pact and seal of fire.
All in all solid jund list though, sideboard looks spicy as well.
Ian Price
What potato are you taking this with? Not even my phone camera looks that bad
Luke Scott
Nothing I can do about it my guy. Bogles does good work in my meta. Only 1 jund player and no combo decks.
Joshua Clark
No, because Jace would just get splashed into non-blue decks and break the format.
Xavier Hughes
Which decks would that be
William Edwards
This is what anti-jace posters actually believe.
They should at least let us play with Jace and see if he's actually harmful to the format instead of "lol cawblade was 2stronk"
Ian Watson
Jund
Dominic Lee
This man understand the threat of four-color Burn.
Owen Gonzalez
The fuck do I do against azban with eldrazi and taxes? I got shat on hard today.
Josiah Sullivan
Play a real deck
Jeremiah Kelly
>should be better and yet still isn't
Ethan Russell
>All Xmage needs to run is Java so I guess it hypothetically could
if youre gonna jailbreak your phone, download a java emulator, and fail to emulate clicks on cards the size of a pea
Brody Davis
Play Bushwhacker zoo is the only actually consistent deck of the type now since the revolt cards came out
Ayden Reyes
make way for purest waifu, spellslut. i bet you pump for any old spell, don't you, you filthy creature?
Owen Murphy
Cut the Eldrazi and tax them more. With the eldrazi version your deck is reliant on powerful but inconsistent synergies and you will continually get shat on by most matchups unless you get nut synergies 24/7
Jonathan White
which version of abzan, and post your E&T list? i may just be the guy that can help you.
Anthony Gray
Best girl coming through
Nolan Jones
It is a real deck. What is with the hostility against that archetype?
Zachary Wright
Been having fun trying out modern with this. Tweaking with different cards and trying different things. Rocking two Hazes and a single Empty the Warrens, really helps with all the zero drops and rits. Need some blood moons for that ez modu victory.
Robert Williams
How do you feel about Signal Pests as half-whacks? They seem to do decent if you can go wide enough and they act as a target for Kuldotha Rebirth. I've also been looking at Devastating Summons as an option in case of mana flood.
Oliver Wright
Hey i got a quick question to the people who play Affinity or Dredge: Who do you think has the better match up? I read everywhere online that its the worst match up for the Affinity side; but when it comes to playing it out in real life; i have barely lost a round, let alone lose a game against dredge. Mind that I see very little dredge so it could be the player; but I feel that affinity just wins the race faster and harder against dredge.
Carter Barnes
I think it was basically this list mtggoldfish.com/deck/635417#paper Pic related for my list. The banishing light, o-ring, and dismember are basically filler slots that I need to replace with either surgicals, fatal pushes, or other sideboard material, and I don't want to spend money to get sideboard material that won't see use.
Dominic Cruz
no but there's always mtgo
it's cheaper too
Christopher Nelson
they are a solid alternative to pacts and can be more useful sometimes, but having those zero drops helps bursting alot. i like Haze because i have somewhere to dump mana and all these storm triggers.
Bentley Wilson
Signal pests are pretty good in just regular old 8 whack goblins. I run 3 main board, it's actually one of two cards turn one that can set up a turn 2 kill, the other being foundry st denizen, combined with 4 BTEs and a surge whacker.
Christopher Williams
I didn't play dredge for long and never ran into afinity while I did but I'll give it a shot
Pre board the key card is conflagrate, if you have it, you can try to ping the affinity's player 1/1 or 0/2 to death to slow him down
Post board, gnaw to the bones reset our life total, which seems strong versus afinity That plus regular artifact hate
Samuel Perry
When she thinks she can win the game even though you're controlling a Gideon permanent
Ayden Price
I will say from the affinity side, conflagrate is a real card and darkblast can sometimes hurt like a bitch; but i feel archbound should solve those problems. Haven't had someone run gnaw to the bones yet but that does sound like the right game plan.
Sebastian Thomas
it has to be a planeswalker, not any gideon permanent
Gavin Wilson
B-but Delver...
These are dark times.
Jason Lee
why is this guy in a lot of white weenies lists lately? It looks like a terrible card
Kevin Gomez
>splashed in non-blue decks >splashing the 4cmc that needs UU to play
Everyone I talk to that's against Jace unban is literally this stupid
Aaron Gomez
Can we add "Unban Jace" to the expanding consciousness picture?
Andrew Davis
No lantern? I win super consistently against everything that isn't eldrazi Tron and burn...
Christopher James
where are you seeing these white weenies lists?
Joshua Peterson
>guys we can't unban Bitterblossom it'll get splashed into every deck and break the format! >guys we can't unban Wild Nacatl it'll get splashed into every deck and break the format! >guys we can't unban Sword of the Meek it'll get splashed into every deck and break the format! >guys we can't unban Ancestral Vision it'll get splashed into every deck and break the format! >(you are here)
John Phillips
Did you mean to post Thraben inspector? Because I agree it's a terrible card. Akrasan squire,judge's familiar, drayd militant and loyal sentry are miles better. Craig wescoe and those goons at mtgslavation can suck my left nut if they think I'll run that shit.
Hunter Peterson
Explain exactly how Jace will be healthy for the format.
Christian Bailey
>Jacecucks are this retarded
Jose Morris
It'll give blue the late game control it needs to compete.
Ian Cox
I play it too and it's just not being played right now. It's not like it's a popular deck and I'm pretty sure most people are aware of it's power level considering it's taken down 2 GP's and placed in other tournaments as well.
also BGx/Shadow and Tron aren't the greatest of matchups so there is that.
Elijah Clark
That's what fags use parrot before those cards respective unbannings and they haven't done shit.
Nolan Williams
>A single card is going to make an unplayable archtype competitive >Implying it won't just make decks that already splash blue even more degenerate
Adrian Ramirez
Because there is no successful Blue control archetype currently and giving them a relevent threat to protect would allow them to exist
>b-but it would be OP r-remember cawblade?????
Decks are so fast that I don't feel Jace would be a problem. It'd be tough to jam it comfortably on turn 4 in a world that is full of Eldrazi, Death's Shadow, Dredge, Storm and robots.
Feel free to explain why it wouldn't be healthy for the format and why they shouldn't even try it. You can't and you won't.
Julian Williams
>That's what fags use parrot before
Try again when you can speak English, please.
Jayden Hughes
I can't remember that one semi pro player that fucking talked up Bitterblossom to fucking infinity. He was bitching so much when it got unbanned and he said he'd show everyone "why it should stay banned". Needless to say he got destroyed and the card hasn't done shit since
Isaiah Jackson
name one deck that """splashes""" blue that would want this.
I'll wait
Julian Nguyen
What "decks that splash blue" have you seen that are actually degenerate? You think storm is going to run jace? Were you touched by a uw control player? You have to be memeing, I'll give you a 3/10 for making me wonder.