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Could anybody shareFrostgrave rules pdf?

There is also mention in the rule book of a raider gang that are a bunch colonial era re-en actors that go around killing dudes with muskets.

How is possible for just pieces of plastic cost so much?

Sculpting, making normal sized figures from 3-ups, tooling, packaging...there are a lot of things here.

Perrys and other historicals are very good priced, and you can get some cheaper stuff in resin like mom

Because it's a niche market with high upfront costs, especially for plastic injection moulding.

And Historicals are cheap as because there's a lot of competitors. When I bought some single Frostgrave sprues for £5 each I also picked up 5 Normans for £2.10 or so, just because I was curious.

Bump - slow day, eh?

Has anyone tried/have thoughts on the Scum series by Nordic Weasel? I've had a lot of fun with their 5core stuff.

I like that they have fully featured solo modes because I have no friends.

I understand. I tricked my wife into liking games by losing a bunch. Or at least that's how I excuse losing so much

Are the rules similar to the 5core stuff? From the sounds of it they're using a more open-ended situational tags/keywords kind of thing.

So many games I want to get into, but no one to play them with. This must be some secret hell that I've landed myself in.

Does anyone here play Wargods? Is it any good?

Probably my favorite line of GW minis ever. Striking without overdoing it. Doesn't hurt that they can be used for historical games and virtually any fantasy system you'd care to name.

Historical is pushing it a little bit but I see what you mean.

You are in the wrong thread for that, friendo. Most /awg/s are very cheap and if you pay more, you choose to do so for boutique miniatures.

>can be used for historical games
the helmets don't fit the rest of the armor.
The very early bretonnians, which are now sold by foundry, are a lot more accurate from a historical pov.
The knights wear chainmail with their helmets instead of plate.

The thing about bretonnians though is that for whatever reason these kind of 13th century helmet crests are nearly impossible to find.
The only variety of that you usually find are teutonic knights, which somewhat limits your options.

Reaper has some very nice footknights they call herladic knights that could work as bretonnians though.

Can anyone give me a rundown on warlords games? Local club plays a slew of them but their models look a little shit.

Does anyone have good recommendations for Necromunda models? I am particularly looking for some gangers and Arbites. I am not sure whether decent ones I can bu right now exist, or whether I should just convert them from 40K minis that aren't OOP.

I have a bunch of their hail ceasar range and some antares miniatures and since my FLGS stock them I've also seen the WW2 metals in blisters.
I don't think there is anything wrong with the models.
Warlord has bought the rights to some kits that were previously made by other companies though.
The wargames factory stuff is a bit iffy sometimes.

Anyway for the historicals such as Black Powder, Bolt Action, Pike and Shotte and Hail Ceasar you are probably better off asking in /hwg/.

Antares, Dr.Who, Terminator Genesys and the like do belong here though.

So what does you club play?

Heresy Miniatures have some good not!Orlocks

I meant Delaque, getting my houses mixed up.

Thanks for the recommendation. Those figures are surprisingly affordable.

Heresy does a Delaque gang and the Jailbird faction by Raging Heroes is basically just Esher/Tank Girl by a different name.
These are the obvious analogues for GW models.
For goliaths you could look into mad max style miniatures. 4a miniatures has some really cool ones.
In the same vain I would look into post apoc survivors or scavengers for scavvies. Copplestone, Lead Adventure and Pig Iron have useful minis for those.

If you are just looking for something more generic Northstar, Foundry and Copplestone are pretty good places to start looking.

Redemptionists could be done with Frostgrave cultists + their sci-fi conversion parts.

Urban War has a pretty cool range that could be neat if you want to do a custom theme for you gang.

I think most figures would be affordable at 'Munda scale, considering you only need like half a dozen guys.

Also Urban War Junkers might do you for Arbites, these days they're sold by Scotia Grendel.

These are really good as well. I got some of the Frostgrave cultists a while back, and with the pointy hoods and some relish they would make perfect sense as redemptionists.

I didn't think of using the urban war guys as arbites, but looking agian they just make sense. Thanks for the rec.

Pretty much anything from the Warlord line + games workshop.

I'm of the opinion that the faces on a lot of the warlord stuff look a little, bloated, swollen etc.

>I'm of the opinion that the faces on a lot of the warlord stuff look a little, bloated, swollen etc.
Can't really say that for the minis I have.
They are quite a bit smaller than the average GW face so they have a bit less detail, but I don't think I have any that look swollen.
I mean a paintjob can hugely affect how faces look.

Just think about what people say about sororitas. The sculpts are absolutely fine, most players just suck at painting females.

I don't "play" it, but I have played it. Aegyptus only, though.

The rules are very good, as are the models. I have some complaints, but they're mostly minor.

I remember people being super hyped for this, but not that it's out I never heard of it again.

Anybody got opinions to share?

>GoT

lel

Are there any good producers of British folklore minis?

>British folklore
Since I'm not a brit I'm kind of drawing a blank here.
What do you mean?
The only thing I can really think of is the Green Man, but after consulting wikipedia it seems it's not even an exclusively british thing.

You can probably get good minis for charcters from the arthurian legends, and I know that Warlord has robin hood and his merry men. Northstar also has some robin hood themed stuff.

Aside from that I have no clue what you could be looking for though.

seconding this, sounds like post-apocalyptic mordheim from the back-of-the-book blurb.
5 minutes of searching yields no reviews or pdfs

Man these are amazing. I'm working on a diorama of a local War of the roses battle and these are really inspiring.

You rather hit the nail on the head without understanding why.

I want to spread traditional British folklore more locally and that means I need to be able to find suitable minis based around British folklore. King Arthur, Robin hood and Greenman are basically the only things any one knows so I was hoping someone had done more than those and I wouldn't need to swipe parts from different ranges to make anything.

Okay. I guess that makes sense.

I still don't know what you are looking for though. I may be able to help with the miniatures even though I don't know the folklore.

Whats a good system for GoT skirmish? dux brit?

Its often the cheekbones - some models look as if they've been stung by bee's, you'd have to file them down. Some just don't look very sharp, very soft edges etc.

It shouldn't be too much trouble to use some Perry Mahdists as Lotr Mahud right?
After their brutal nerf actually tracking the real thing down just doesn't seem worth it.

Its a shame that a lot of the lotr lines are out of production, some of them look really quite good.

Particular fan of the men of harad.

>watchers of Karna lost their melee skills and anti-ghost powers just to become an archer upgrade
I'm surprised the merchant guard is still okay.

I find it's a pretty solid game, only a few small niggles. The models are nice, but the big problem is I think they could really benefit from plastic or resin models which would allow them to provide the weapon options for the units. There are plenty you can outfit guys with, but their metal models are limited in options.

I would love a skirmish game in the Wargids setting.

What is awgs opinion of halo:ground battles?
On a different note, anyone know where I can get 28mm scale Halo heads, specifically ODST or Spartan style helmets?

just fyi there's someone on ebay (uk) selling hardcopies for £30 + £1 postage, which is a good damn deal.

You can also play knights in armour in it, I think? IDK, I'm going for tribals and uh the merchant faction, whatever they are. At 1/35 these water bottles (Meng Model) may technically be out of scale, but fuck that, clean water (or other clear liquid) is a wasteland trader staple.

Heh. There's also a note that just before the fall, a company (called Las) tapped into a massive worldwide trend for regular firearms that looked like science fiction laser guns, and that's why you can use a lasgun model and treat it as a perfectly normal rifle if you're so inclined. it's cosplay!

I would love to see the dunlending warrior lines come back in full. and muhad.... and everything else for one of the best games GW made.

Sadly here in america finding someone to play is like finding a needle in a haystack thats sitting in a barn with 100 other haystacks you have to look through as well.

Add some Zulu shields and you're set.

Meh, the Frostgrave Barbarians are pretty much perfect for Dunlendings, so I wouldn't bother.

So the Spirit of Fire is finally coming to fleet battles

Lion Rampant maybe?

What have you liked about 5core?

The image is the one made by the guy that posts on leadadventure, right?

...

With the prevalence of good plastic kits from third parties and historicals, I'd say it's a good time to get into LotR stuff right now.

> Gripping Beast Saxons for Rohan, Vikings for Dunland, Arabs for Haradrim, Romans for Gondor/Arnor
> Victrix Romans/Carthaginians for Numenor
> Frostgrave Barbarians for Dunland and the upcoming pirates for Umbar
> Fireforge mongols for Khand, maybe their Russians for Dale

I've also toyed with the idea of sculpting facemasks onto Samurai minis so they could double as Easterlings or Seanchan from WoT.

What's lead adventure like? I keep meaning to lurk there but it's so segmented I never know where to start

Nice little place, I mostly hang about in the Fantasy Adventures section looking at the miniatures people are painting for genteel skirmish games.

How lefty is it? I often find nest forums and then find half the topics are bitching about how chainmail bikinis are sexist etc. Does my head in

>On a different note, anyone know where I can get 28mm scale Halo heads, specifically ODST or Spartan style helmets?
I never played a single halo game and i have no clue what the abbreviations stand for, but pig iron have heads that are quite often used in converting halo minis.

Shameless self bump.

From mostly playing 5 Parsecs I like the kill dice/shock dice representation of suppression fire and for demonstrating diversity of weapon roles. I like the campaign/skills format being more towards 'sort it out with your opponent' instead of tournaments. Mixed on the action roll at the beginning of the turn, makes it kind of swingy in game, but I understand its suppose to represent your skirmish being subject to a larger battle with unforeseen consequences in the ww2 stuff but it didn't mesh as well for dirty frontier space battles imo. Just makes it really janky sometimes. I thought the displacement rule was a clever way of showing how disorienting and startling it can be running around battlefields and shit coming out of nowhere. Guard fire and the 2 model-turn has so far kept it from turning into just sitting and waiting for someone to move, but I haven't tried to abuse it. Making aliens is fun.

Basically I like how easy it is to set up, I'm interested what their new/different approaches to squad building/campaign stuff works and am curious if it s significantly different mechanically.

the only place i ever saw people seriously argue about chainmail bikinis is Veeky Forums...

generally speaking it is my impression that Lead Adventure mostly attracts older semesters or people that come from the historical or pulp gaming side.

And since there are tons of games and miniatures from different companies I find it fosters an inherently more amicable atmosphere.

>How lefty is it?

Oh awfully so mate, don't bother.

Grow up you little tart.

>King Arthur
ree post-romans fuck off britain for the real britons

don't get me started on the fucking saxons

>Dunland as Vikings not Welsh (GB Dark Age Warriors)
>Gondor as Romans and not Byzantines/Late Romans (GB Late Romans)
>Umbar as barbarians and not Arabs/Moors (GB Arab range)
>Khand as Mongols and not Indians (GB Timurid range(no plastic))
>Easterlings as Samurai and not Russians (GB Rus rage (no plastic))

It's a good site, the various subforums are mostly period-specific (or fantasy), still not a huge fan of the way they have game subsubforums.

The main problem is that there are way too many fucking amazing people there. It's not that they call you a cunt and ask if you painted your miniatures by sticking them up your arse if they're not very good, it's not like they're Frothers or anything, IIRC they're actually pretty friendly and enthusiastic about people who aren't good at art, they just scare them off from posting their minis because it feels like you're comparing them to ridiculously good stuff the regulars post.

basically go post, you'll be fine. or don't post, and just lurk. you will also be fine, and inspired.

apparently miniatures wargames has a two part article the next two months about doing fantasy with historicals. might be worth a look when it's out, preview spread attached.

GB are generic as fuck, I picked vikings because they more closely match the old GW Dunlendings which there seems to be some nostalgia for.

GB's late romans was implicit because they don't have any other kind in plastic

I said those upcoming frostgrave pirates for Umbar, not the barbs.

There's so little canon information about Khand really you can do whatever you want with them.

>GB are generic as fuck

GB's Dark Age warriors*

The dark age warriors can serve as wild men of Dunland or even ruffians.

get your hormones tested

It's a neat place but it's a bit slow, some amazing models however.

Are you guys talking about lead-adventure dot com?
You got me interested about the site but all i found is some store and 500 internal errors.

>lead-adventure.de

Here you go.

One thing I do notice on Lead Adventure is there's plenty of project logs around using Historical minis and SAGA for A Song of Ice and Fire games, yet I've never seen much discussion of that elsewhere on the net.

I'm just saying, I don't think I've ever considered the general political leanings of a toy soldiers forum before deciding if it's for me or not. Hopefully when you mature a bit you'll realise you just sound daft.

Isn't it in the OP?

Does it have pdf version?

Yeah I was going to pick some of those up for objective tokens and maybe load a few of them on some pic related with some weapons and some other gubbins for that caravan scenario.

Veeky Forums decided to not upload my pic for some reason.

Thanks mate.

>you

I wasn't the guy who asked about whether lead adventure was pozzed or not.

I was just amused that you massively blew up with a butthurt comment when someone expressed an illiberal view on Veeky Forums, probably the center of extreme right "culture" in the world right now.

>I'm just saying, I don't think I've ever considered the general political leanings of a toy soldiers forum before deciding if it's for me or not.

Yes, this is evident by the fact that you are pissed off that someone on Veeky Forums isn't liberal. Perhaps you should have.

I'd like to start a Riverlander army that took part in the Dance of the Dragons for the blacks.

>Isn't it in the OP?

Jesus yes it is. When I first checked I downloaded twice thawn of the lich king campaign book. But there is also core rulebook set. Thanks!

Christ mate, I was only having a giggle now you're being a dullard.

>Yes, this is evident by the fact that you are pissed off that someone on Veeky Forums isn't liberal.

Not at all, more curious as to why you'd even care. I voted for Brexit last year, don't give a flying fuck if the guy I'm reading the project log of voted the same way as me or had a different opinion.

I doubt that guy cares what they think either, he just doesn't want to read nauseating shit tier content about PC in the context of an extremely niche hobby. Which to be fair does creep in a bit, see the dice bag lady syndrome.

>Not at all, more curious as to why you'd even care.

Again, it wasn't me. But if you dont care that he has a different opinion then dont make an effort of jumping out of your pram to neg him.

> I was only having a giggle

As was I when I said the hormones thing...

> I voted for Brexit last year

o/ o/ o/

>I voted for Brexit last year

>imageflip
Triggered.

Only faggots, nu-males, cuckolds and trumpsters talk about politics on miniature forums. Actual adults simply post images of their painted hoplites or space marines.

Advanced Song of Blades and Heroes! Can´t praise it enought.

- works with every fantasy setting
- easy to learn
- every character is custom (all miniatures are welcome)
- very dynamic fights
- terrain is super important and brings tactical depth

Didn´t even touch any other skirmish systems since my first encounter with this game. I collected Citadel fantasy miniatures but hated all their systems, so this was a welcome discovery. I really do not know why this game is so rarely discussed.

Also: This is one of my warbands.

Does it have more than two stats?

Nope, but 2 stats are more than enough.

I tried it once it was good, but as I see it now it's easy to make op character there.
In my game we basically ended with bunch of meat bags on on side and heroes on the other.
Actually just one ranged champion with great stats and 2-3 skills could take a model per turn.

Of course this flaw can be neglected by having 2 players with sane approach while making your warband.