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>What is Endless Legend? A game with a neato science fantasy setting, which is itself a single world in a much larger setting of Endless Space. >What makes it so interesting? It's fucking weird, in a good way. It's visual design and lore are magical.
I mean there is literally nothing stopping the writers from saying they all finally got together in jolly cooperation and fled together. Except the Necrophages. The only good bug is a dead bug.
Brayden Foster
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Lucas Flores
I just hunger for different things, chitin man. Like (You)s
Lincoln Baker
I might be jumping too far ahead by asking this, but how should presence in the Cultist's city work?
It would be really rather unpleasant to have players in the city roll to not be mindbroken by the queen every few minutes, but it would also be a waste if the city was off-limits to players entirely.
Justin Hughes
Os there mindcontroll stuff with that? Their quest involved a guy who was mindbroken through standard means like solitary confinement rather than magical stuff right?
If you went with fate you could have it as a detrimental environmental aspect though. Just a negate that's invoke when you do something uncultisty.
You could also just fiat it with "they're heroes so they're not effected like the common rabble, let alone minor factions." There's a reason you can't concert the broken Lord city by anything but the sword.
Matthew Price
I remember there being a lot of flavor for Cultist heroes with the basic premise of "This hero was just a dude, then the Queen or the Unspoken pierced his mind and made him a super-zealot." Sometimes it was accidental, sometimes it was deliberate, and I think it was always someone who was physically close to either the Queen or the Unspoken.
Thomas Taylor
That's the robot-cultist race for the most part. I dont think that's rhe city and mkre the queen perslnalising her servants. Though I don't imagine they have very lenient tourism rules. Their security is quite high.
Landon Davis
The Queen and the Unspoken don't do mass mind control, most cultists are just indoctrinated via mundane means (think real-world cult compounds, or The Wave). The super hijacking you see in the hero bios only happen when they need a specialist.
Hordes of mind-slaved minions are more Morgawr's shtick.
Matthew Gomez
Let us not forget that one user that found all those location names in the game files.
My own additions based on what I kind of remember from the last time I played.
Juan Thomas
>I mean there is literally nothing stopping the writers from saying they all finally got together in jolly cooperation and fled together. Except that the Vaulters were canonically the only complete faction that managed to escape.
Isaiah Taylor
The Broken Lord made it at least up to orbit before the orbital weapons surrounding Auriga wrecked their ship, leaving only a single survivor.
Cameron Martinez
There is nothing stopping them from retconning that. What would be horribly displaced if they did? Nothing really comes to mind.
Isaiah Brooks
>What would be horribly displaced if they did? More or less the entirety of the ES1 Vaulter Lore.
Feel however you want about it, but there's approximately no chance in hell of the writers going back on that decision.
Ryan Brooks
Hey, man, nobody'd notice if just a couple Puffboys or Dragons made it up into space.
I don't want everything to be pointless, user.
Nicholas Bennett
Auriga was surrounded by a defense system preventing people from leaving all along? Holy shit, that's dark. How did the Vaulters get off?
Nathan Lee
usually to other vaulters I'd imagine, but how does that relate to your first point?
Colton Baker
>Auriga was surrounded by a defense system preventing people from leaving all along? Yes.
The new Endless space trailer is quality. Honestly one of the best sci fi universes.
Robert Perez
The sentence flowed better with bats and dragons.
A description of the Ardent Mages or the Forgotten would have gotten the same message across, but it's simply harder to make a good sentence with it.
Kevin Collins
Morals aren't an immutable, god-driven force in this universe, so it wouldn't be necessary.
Gavin Bell
>the heretic has taken control of the academy G-guys?
Brayden Carter
What's a Mezari and why do they keep coming up?
Hudson Turner
Another batch of vaulters except they crashed yesterday instead of centuries ago.
Ryder Lopez
>What's a Mezari and why do they keep coming up? They're humans, from space. The ancestors of the UE, the Vaulters, and probably all the other humans too. The games take place after the Mezari stopped being a thing and started being everyone else.
Cameron Butler
We appear to have an issue. Shall we start screaming now, or later?
Charles Green
Actually, on the subject of corruption, the ENFER ARG has gone rather fucking homicidal; perhaps some hint to the lore we're seeing in ES2
We must mod ES2 to revive the planet! Maybe for some bonus or something.
Andrew Torres
What faction was the human supposed to be? UE?
Colton Evans
Ayup
Lincoln Martinez
Yeah, United Empire.
AKA, best.
Jordan Clark
>But they don't like being called Human
Liam Torres
Anyone have a link to the FATE work done?
Hunter Baker
Also Sheredyn, Pilgrims, Vaulters, and technically Horatio.
Adrian Gomez
I think ES2 Horatio look better.
Colton Long
Well maybe they took some people from other factions as ambassadors
Hunter Green
>none of which are playable UE, gotcha.
Ian Walker
Or as pets, or trade goods, or souvenirs.
Just so long as these races can still pop up in, say, an Endless Space RPG.
Josiah Howard
>>none of which are playable >no one can play as the Horatio >the first Endless Space does not exist
Wyatt Torres
Why would I play as the Horatio when I can genocide the Horatio? I fucked up on that one.
But multiple people are saying that ES1 isn't canon, so that second comment doesn't exactly ring false.
Michael Ross
>But multiple people are saying that ES1 isn't canon [Citation Needed]
Elijah Lewis
A thread ago, I believe it was.
Grayson Gonzalez
No FATE compilation yet then?
Connor Williams
ES2 look better, but ES1 sells how weird the Horatio are better.
ES2 has better ships for them, though.
Jaxon Rogers
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Ryan Bailey
We've been talking about Feit a lot. I wasn't aware that anybody was putting something together for it, yet.
Joshua Taylor
Everything is ultimately pointless anyway.
Hudson Williams
Not if religion is correct, though.
The characters in-universe don't even have that philosophical backdoor.
Aiden Watson
Do not take the pop nihilism to its silly, weak conclusion. There's nothing after this life, there was nothing before it - it is all you have, so take what joys and make what marks you can because that is ALL that matters. The only point of life is to live it, user. So if that means caring about a few fluffy naturalist bat-monks then so be it.
Carson Ross
Might as well take it all the way, if we're already saying everything is pointless just because the planet eventually dies.
Josiah Mitchell
>giving Nihilism the time of day Even just a taste of Nihilism is the highest form of corruption. Don't be a Nihilist, Billy.
Joseph Peterson
I dunno, some Nihilism is alright. "If there is naught but what we make in this world, brothers--then let us make good." and all that,.
Logan Campbell
This is good.
Samuel Clark
Auriga isn't sentinent, it's there in the videos only to add to the narration. Just like some videos for ES2 are narrated as if the universe itself was talking. The races that view it as alive are just religious about it, like we can say mother earth
Michael Lopez
>The Heretic has the same voice as the Allayi in the trailer.
Christopher Diaz
Isn't it?
I thought the fucked up formation of regions was a deliberate act by the planet to give 'her children' a chance to survive.
Christopher Hernandez
Are you sure? I thought I remember there being flavor implying otherwise, Alpha Centauri-style
Anthony Morgan
So what is the meaning of the four-eyed alien/four star systems showing up in a few different trailers?
Bentley Gray
Why take the narration as just narration? What about all the weird explainable stuff such as the Guardians, pearls, etc, and not to mention the hinting at its sentience? Why not have fun and read into it, and add depth to the story even if all of the weird stuff is somehow completely unrelated?
Also, from the the endless legend loading screen: >Behold, my birth. >The birth of Auriga. >At first, from the void, came the shape >Within that shape, continents rose up from the seas >...and within those continents, the regions were created. >Then the regions were covered by desert, >and forest, and grassland... >...and by hills and mountains that rose up to give my face form >Clouds drew together, rains fell, and the rivers swelled with water... >...and the lands grew wetter or drier as the rivers carved their way. >From beneath the crust of my skin precious resources thrust up. >Lesser species as well evolved and ranged across me,... >...and as all of these lived and grew and died they left their traces. >Lastly, for my children, I sowed places where my bounties could be easily reaped: >Bounties in minerals, in magics, in the wealth of the soil. >And when all was ready, and I saw that the world was rich, ... >...only then, were my children seeded upon it. >And then nothing remained but to wait, and to hope. >So the void became the shape, ... >...and the shape became the land, ... >...and the land became rich, ... >...and all of that is me. >Auriga.
Jordan Reed
Pure Kino
Joshua Young
I think Auriga is some sort of artificial planet and it's intelligence is an overseer AI that's malfunctioning on some level as the rest of its systems are failing as well.
Daniel Turner
I prefer to leave the decision as to whether it's sentient to be a mystery. It's ambiguous - if it's sentient, it certainly doesn't talk on the scale of a person. It should be a constant uncertainty, whether it just has freaky patterns because it's a broken Endless construct, or because it's actually aware and active in some manner.
Jace Mitchell
That little blurb always gives me chills when I can actually read it.
Jeremiah Bell
Well, there is a whole major faction who existed on the planet before the Endless fucked with things and were sentient then also. The Draken and Necrophages were also around, just as dumb animals rather than as intelligent species.
Adam Carter
One for fun but nothing tied to it.
Benjamin Green
>there is a whole major faction who existed on the planet before the Endless fucked with things ...no, there isn't? We don't know the extent to which they predate the Endless.
Xavier Thomas
Likely they're the original human race. The UE isn't original terran stock.
Which means there is a chance, possibly, of finding Sol in the Endless Universe.
Angel Price
The Allayi were the original inhabitants, and the Drakken were literally uplifted to fight them. They may not have been a space faring civilisation but they were still there.
Juan Torres
Source?
Lincoln Russell
This is central to their lore, innit.
Besides, he got trips.
Landon Collins
And just incase you ignore my Trips, here's it from the horses mouth:
m8 the whole planet is saturated with space magic nanomachines. Is it too far beyond imagining that there's some kind of consciousness crammed into that network?
Carter Lee
>consciousness crammed into that network Literally what a virtual is, dust and thought.
Ethan Cruz
It keeps referring to "a 'dark counterpart' of the Sophons" for me.
>We will not let it end in fire... >4 stars mimicking the four eyes of the endless dude >heretic wants to cleanse the universe The endless dude is the heretic and wants to cleanse dust by wiping out all life in the universe
Brody Johnson
Actually no... Meaning isn't absent, it's infinite and ever-present, irrevocable, innate to the human experience.
Unfortunately it's subjective, but objectivity isn't likely to be an accessible reality anyways.
You can try to reject meaning in the same sense that you can try to conceptualize nothingness - you can't, it's an asymptomatic approach at best.
If you let the meaninglessness of existence get you down you've literally assigned meaning to meaninglessness, and meaninglessness isn't even a valid fucking concept in the first place. This is just stacks of bullshit.
Nietzsche wasn't even a nihilist guys
Jeremiah Adams
The Heretic is more or less explicitly Voydani, right?
so the heretic runs the academy and has the ultimate goal of cleansing the galaxy and resetting. huh.
are the vodyani related to the broken lords at all?
Ayden Lee
No.
Austin Allen
Vodyani are shown to recover his corpse in one of the trailers. Though it may be noncanon as the sophon one shows them winning instead. Plus I think he may literally be a dust crystal? No reason it couldn't be him.
