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Does the existence of brass and bronze dragons imply the existence of zinc and tin dragons?

Yes, but they're extinct.

I need a +1 Str, Con or Int Feat and already have Con Save, what's a good choice? Heavy Armor Mastery?

Or bismuth.

HAM.

HAM, people who tell you it doesn't scale don't realise that even at high levels 80% of things have non-magical P/S/B attacks and make 2-3 attacks per round. High levels it's easily at least 6DR per round in most fights if you're a main melee guy, it adds up fast.

That's basically the only choice you have.

Yeah. HAM is great but as I always say, the reason it's not used much is because it conflicts with obligatory weapon feats/isn't usable on barbarian/clerics and people who've obtained armor other ways aren't actually in a position where they're trying to tank anyway.

Basically only Shield Master Fighters and Paladins can fit it in yeah. Which is kind of sad.

A Fighter X/Bearbarian 3 still gets the Bears resistance while raging in heavy armour though, plus Reckless Attack and all that. Which could be pretty fun.

Unless someone's strength stat is odd.
Paladins will probably be too busy with PAM and maybe sentinel or upping charisma, or they'll at least have to wait until level 8.
A shieldmaster fighter might also have decided to be dex but they could be strength and it does seem like the sort of thing they'd go for.

About to start some modules for a paladin and priest party. How would you make fighting undead/dark fairy/other grim stuff more interesting, /5eg/?

>A Fighter X/Bearbarian 3 still gets the Bears resistance while raging in heavy armour
No, he doesn't.
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What modules?

Have them be part of orders that suppress the existence of undead, dark fey and the other grim stuff.

What have you planned so far?

How do you guys make maps/generate a basis to make a world

What's the difference between the Barbarian's Intimidating Presence and just Intimidating someone during combat? Ignoring that Charisma isn't the stat you focus on for Barbarian, but Intimidating Presence seems like it just gives you Intimidate without having to have to take the skill proficiency?

It's a really, really shitty ability and has no good purpose in combat. Outside of it it makes them make a Saving Throw rather then a skill check, which can be cool and more likely to work.

The main reason to use it imo is intimidating people who get in your way a bit easier and more dramatically.

playing a Tielfing order of the knife we're starting at level three what disciplines should I take as my first three?

Well you only have two, I'd recommend Brute Force and an out of combat one, maybe Nomad's one with "6000 teleports".

>Plutonium Dragon

Besides the fact that it forces the opponent to make a saving throw, it really is a terrible way to add something you should be able to do normally as a class feature. I guess it's true that not all barbarians are half orcs who automatically get proficiency in intimidate though.

Barbarians seem to get a "flavor" ability on level 10, so I suppose it's meant to just let you bully people outside of combat, since using your whole action to intimidate a single enemy is a waste.

From that Immortal's Handbook written by epileptic monkeys?

I mean, what kind of character is it? What will you be doing?
If you're just asking 'which one is the best one', go Psychic Assault and Ego Whip the big guy every turn, or whatever

I just realised I have no Saving Throw cantrips on my Wizard. Only Firebolt and Shocking Grasp for damage, what's a good option to pick up at level 4?

From the monster manual.

Close combat, sneaking/porting around and maybe some awakened discipline stuff.
So if I'm starting with two I'm thinking brute force and porting discipline for nomads

Overall I'm think nomad, awakened with some immortal stuff to help with melee.

Wait, I'm a moron, that was plutonium.

You can redeem yourself by giving us stats for a thorium dragon.

Sounds about right for a Soul Knife. It's worth noting that with Psionic Weapon and your subclass ability you can get +7 weapons.

Also at about level 8 you should try picking up Magic Initiate Wizard. Booming Blade and Green Flame Blade are just free extra damage and you could grab Find Familiar or any other level 1 spell you think will help.

Daily reminder fuck this mary sue 'You thought this was a beggar when you tried to rob them? It was actually rocks fall you die but there's no way of knowing that because it's magic!' dragon.

Really I thought psionic weapon didn't work with the blades thanks for that info. For back story I'm thinking former bodyguard turned investigator.

Ha, literally the same as mine except I'm a Halfling.

Have fun user, you chose the best Mystic.

One of my friends in the group is playing a fighter in the same investigative organisation. So we basically do buddy cop film references in fantasy setting.

Thorium dragons aren't really that impressive unless you cast Cone of Neutrons at them

>So we are basically going do buddy cop film references in fantasy setting.

The Gallery of Angels from OotA is fucking horrific.

Why would the pcs go there?

It's basically just a coincidence if a feat is useful for any class other than fighter and rogue.

…yeah, I have lots of work to do before metaplot and setting get any decent. Brb reading on 3.5 divine ranks and real church history.

Dang, summer is almost here and I feel like I might only start DMing in July \ August. Well, better than nothing.

explain

You don't actually use a charisma (intimidation) check to make someone Frightened, in combat or otherwise, though I suppose you could.

Next time don't rob a beggar

What, in D&D terms?

Well, um... okay, here's an attempt at one. I'm not good at this though.

I imagine a Thorium Dragon to lurk in the underdark, burrowing through into caverns to feed on the various horrors inside. It especially likes feeding on aberrations, so is rarely encountered near the surface.

>be stuck with a shit DM for months
>shit DM goes away for a couple of weeks on holiday
>I get to DM a bit of the campaign I've been planning for ages with the same players
>everyone loves it to shit
>great times had by all
>tfw shit DM is back in a week

Your sins are absolved.

Why reading up on 3.5 divine ranks?

Planning on statting a god's avatar? Which one/s?

So Bahamut and Tiamat are married right? How does that relationship work out?

Fuck you, jeebus wannabe.

Read up on its entry.

Is there any chance of more mike schley maps being added to the mega?

Tiamat realized that Bahamut is a terrible and divorced.

They're brother and sister

Well, they're actually two halves of a previous dragon god, but close enough

Basically considering adding in magic horseless carriages for my "westernish" setting.
Was going to have them be fuelled by magic, though I would like them to actually need to be taken into town to be fuelled or something like that, not unlimited. Whats a good justification for this?

Wheel and axle maintenance
Magic is all well and good, but the wear and tear of the dusty road can break down most anything.

I kind of meant a quantifiable thing if you know what I mean, like their fuel could move them a certain amount of hexes (except i wont give them the map with hexes on it lmao) so they know when to go back. I might drop it, might be tedious micromanagement for the sake of it

Well, wheel wear is a quantifiable thing.

It can simply be that the engine is only reliable up to a certain point, and beyond that characters 'can' continue to use it but they risk breaking down by a roll.

I want a clockwork/gear setting and having it in Mechanus, but I am unsure of what to fight other than the modron.

some kind of liquid magic. Ectoplasm?

Trying to develop setting's cosmogony\metaplot, possibly with tropes I saw in various media.

So far I've got an astroengineering-scale worldmachine anonymously powering everything (not without its own flaws), and I have to model so-called deities' impact on the material plane and each other, also taking into account history of material realm's geological, biological, etc. changes.

Sounds pretty autistic, I guess. But interesting nonetheless. Otherwise antagonists will be antagonists just because, and this seems bland.

You might want to check out elementally-powered vehicles from Eberron.

I forgot Eberron is a thing. Whats the best book to read for it?like which edition has the best Eberron

Did they just never do anything past Psionics Take 2?

Inevitables
Formian colonies
Clockwork replicas of other creatures
The law

The full mystic class is being tested now, probably the last one before they release a official version in a book.

Sounds pretty cool tbqh. Let me know if you need any help statting up god's avatars.
Might even encourage me to finish writing up Lathander's avatar's statblock.

>remove nomad
>buff soul knife
>give immortal extra attack at 5
>limit disciplines to only their orders disciplines
>rework psionic mastery
>regain psionic points on short rest equal to hit die spent on hit points

>>limit disciplines to only their orders disciplines
What a terrible idea.

literally just went to the gallery of angels last night., and duh, it's to get the stuff we need for the other thing.

I've only read 3.5 so can't say anything on 4e, and there are no materials for it in 5e yet. However, author keeps a blog with lots of articles: keith-baker.com/
Sure. Did you post your work somewhere?

Should make it hard magic, like coal.

>join campaign as hand crossbow fighter
>it uses critfumbleslol
>i'm the only multiattacker except the war cleric
>fun times weren't had

So Deadlands' ghostrock, essentially.

We weird west now, boys.

Run it in Eberron, let them be Silver Flame or Sovereign Host guys ousting Blood of Vol and Emerald Claw out of Karrnath and wherever else those jerks hide

Is there a corpse explosion spell in 5e or am I thinking of a video game

start with "campaign setting", then "five nations", then whatever you wish

Yeah, it's in Diablo 2.

Boys, I want to play a hard rock star here featuring bard/barbarian multiclass. How to do it properly?

Nothing can beat Persuasion/Intimidation/Performance done with a sick axe guitar solo, I think. Wat do

They are either halves of Io or its children that were supposed to procreate and make overperfect dragons, but their characters didn't fit.
So now both want to prove that "I AM BEST AND PERFECT"

Got a question. Is Green Flame Blade too strong for a racial bonus cantrip?

I have a friend that has a high elf rogue that used to be a ranged based character but now that he got to Lv5, it's just using his rapier for 2d8+4 plus 1d8 to a nearby target.

It just seems rather powerful for a Lv5 character to do that every round.

Its a risk vs reward thing, either they can hang back with a bow and shoot or get in melee range to GFB.

It's sort of powerful, but you also need a second target nearby, so it can be kind of situational.

Besides, characters get a lot more effective when they reach level 5, so him being rather powerful is to be expected.

Compared to using a hand crossbow with crossbow expert, it's much weaker.

He's doing the same damage as a fighter with extra attack but also gets an extra 3d6 with sneak attack damage. He just seems to be doing a shit ton of damage.

Sit down with everyone and ask, do you want to keep playing my campaign or go back to shit DMs campaign?

Sneak Attack is conditional, and fire damage is the most commonly resisted type.

If you're the DM, you easily have ways of lessening the impact of GFB without fucking him over completely.

What are some good forest encounters? My PCs are traveling from one town to the next and I want to liven it up a little bit. Their main quest for this session will be escorting a small child back to her parents who sold her to bandits but I want to add a few quirks.

I'm curious why would that be a terrible idea?

The girl gets sidetracked and chases something she reports as a white rabbit in a suit with a pocket watch.

owlbear

There aren't enough disciplines for some orders, and Soul Knife gets shafted completely because it doesn't have any disciplines of its own.

He actually picked the weaker of two options. Boomblade is a lot better for rogues.
>Boomblade
>Cunning Action disengage (or dont even need to if Swashbuckler)
>Back up (ideally behind full cover)
>"lmao what u gonna do faget, follow me?"

Suddenly, satyrs! Use one with panpipes, or a few, depending on your party level.

He could take a feat or a level of wizard to accomplish the same thing.

In any case, if he misses he's not going to get any of that, so having a second attack is still useful. The fighter should get features from his class too, and he should be tougher than the rogue.

combining satyrs and small girls will never end well.

a Robin Hood and his Merry Men knockoff that are actually just dickish bandits pretending to be dignified.

Soul Knife doesn't even have disciplines if I recall correctly. Your Order should be a bonus, not a limiter.

Some kind of fey creatures appear and want to buy the child. Doesn't even have to end in a fight.

They run across a traveling group of jesters or a circus.

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A fighter at level 5 can make up to 4 attacks in a round and add +10 damage to each of those attacks and also has action surge for yet another 2 attacks and then also something extra like crits on a 19 as well as 20.

The fighter can deal, without action surge, up to (6.3+3+10)*3 + (3+3+10)*1 versus the rogue dealing a maximum of (4.5+4)+(4.5+4.5+3)+(3.5)*3 damage.

That's 31 damage versus 73.9 damage if you ignore additional class bonuses and crit chance and hit chance.

If the rogue is doing more damage than the fighter, that's more the fighter's problem, really.

yet the fighter could be doing 4d6+8 every turn, more with maneuvers or action surge once per rest.

the fighter could be doing 2*(2d6+14), 2d10+1d4+12 or 2*(1d8+14) with precision strike/ archery and GWM/SS/PAM and outdamage anyone ever, forever.

Now I'm imagining either a really powerful fey entity who looks like John Belushi or a satyr who looks like him.

>Back when Chris Hansen was young
Have you seen him recently? The man looks old. Terribly old.
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