Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

Dreadwing, Deathwing, Ironwing, Ravenwing, Stormwing and Firewing.

Thank you. I've been looking to explain shit in chornological order to a friend of mine, and realized I didn't really know the character of Dark Angels in 30k pre-schism.

"They're proud of being the first, and tend to have specific groups for specific jobs instead of using combined arms" will definitely be enough.

That said, more information on them is never bad...What did they do?

XTH FOR TYRANIDS BACK WITH A VENGEANCE /HYPE/

more, I seem to remember they were and still are one for every feather on their chapter symbol

>The Dreadwing was one of the six specialized formations called Wings of the Dark Angels Space Marine Legion during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy. The speciality of Dreadwing was total warfare where the voted-lieutenant bearing title Dreadbringer used Destroyer Marine Squads supported by other types of squads to bring total anihilation of a foe on specific battlefield. The Dreadwing utilized mass armored assaults of Land Raiders, Spartan Assault Carriers, Mastodons and Fellglaives with advanced weaponry. They were also known to employ weapons of mass destruction such as Phosphex and Vortex Weapons.

>The Deathwing is unique among the Space Marine chapters in that the entire company fights exclusively in Terminator armour.

>(Ironwing) This wing was developed by the Emperor himself in the Unification Wars for the purpose of exterminating threats to mankind too dire to be allowed to endanger the coming Great Crusade. Ironwing units were equipped with heavily armored vehicles such as Land Raiders for their missions.

>The Ravenwing is a highly specialized formation where speed is more important than heavy firepower. To this end, all of the marines in the company ride into battle on Bikes or Land Speeders on land, including specialized vehicles such as the Land Speeder Vengeance and Darkshroud.

>Consisting of Assault Squads with Boarding Shields, the Stormwing specialized in boarding operations.

Firewing is unknown.

weren't they literal space knights as well? At least that's what I remember from a shitty novel, and some HH rulebook

Sounds about right.

Proud of being number one. Focused on multiple specialized organizations rather than multiple rounded forces.

Daily reminder that Dark Angels are gay

you're at your favourite fortress world and the swarmlord slaps your PDF turn one

what do you do?

xD

Call the Imperial Guard and 8 chapters of Space Marines.

>Firewing is unknown.

Jee I wonder what it could be centered around

Starting flamewars on the internet obv

Burn it to death with my MSU flamer squad. Combi-flamer, flamer, heavy flamer and some bolter at rapid fire range should kill anything in this edition according to Veeky Forums

....Stealth kills?

>Call
okay you pick up your portable telepathic cordless and hear a loud static noise, like
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAPP

>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAP
Good post

That image looks like the Psyker is summoning Nids.

Imperial psykers not only can summon demons to their side! They can also summon Nids!

Chaos marines are fuck!

It's just not the same with out the autistic rage. . .

Could someone explain this stupid ongoing joke?

I don't think it would be that effective against anything tough. d6 automatic hits /= d6 automatic wounds

do you happen to be chinese?

Someone started a forced meme, people (person) got upset, forced meme turned into a real meme.

>d6 automatic hits /= d6 automatic wounds
Pretty much this.

Your average flamer against a T6/T7 target is going to get:
3.5 hits
1.16 Wounds
Then they get an armour save, which will usually be a 3+

It will take about 21 flamers to kill a Dreadnought.

Here's what I'm going to give, for basic one or two line descriptions of the Legions:

1: Dark Angels. Proud of being number 1, and focused into specialist organizations instead of combining forces.
3: Emperor's Children. Obsessed with war as an art, and how to make it beautiful. Wound up falling to Slaanesh, God/dess of Excess, in an attempt to pursue that beauty.
4: Iron Warriors. Siege masters, on the "Breaking a fortress" side. Sort of got shit on by the Emperor, so they turned traitor against him.
5: White Scars. Masters of fast warfare, they were themed around the mongols. As a rapid response group, they were one of the Legions present at the Siege of Terra
6: Space Wolves. Space Vikings, loyal only to the Emperor and given a large amount of his attention. Trained heavily in fighting other Space Marines, which came in handy.
7: Imperial Fists. Siege masters, on the "Building a fortress" side. They built the Emperor's own palace, which should show you how much attention he paid them. Also, obviously, at the Siege of Terra.
8: Night Lords. Basically batman. Space Marines are already huge and terrifying, but they specialize in it. You wouldn't think an 8-foot-tall man in tank armour could be stealthy, but here you are.
9: Blood Angels. Pure warriors, in multiple meanings of the term. They were virtue and grace on the battlefield,a s much a beacon to be looked to as warriors to fight the Emperor's wars.
10: Iron Hands. Technology specialists. Often eschewing the flesh for cybernetics, they worked heavily with the scientists (Mechanicum) of the Imperium to always have a technological answer for an alien problem, in case "Being a space marine" didn't work.

Well it's a very old joke actually since GW started it woth the first edition of 40k. Basically, Dark Angels' name, their primarch's, and their big secret were all a gay joke at first.
Also, some chinese-DAutist got triggered HARD by it a few thread ago, as he tried and deny this fact with all his impotent might, and he basically changed it from a 'meh, got it but it's not that funny' joke to a meme.

>pure warriors
>have inherently flawed geneseed that turns them into cocksucking vampires
>choose one

Eh I guess that'll do. Though I'd probably add a second sentence to go deeper. Like how the white scars were outsiders who kept to themselves because they got sick of everyone else not putting the time in to understand their culture

>REEEEEEE YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ME GUYS
White Scars confirmed for lowkey edgiest chapter?

This is Captain Darius
He is the worst Space Marine in existence
I dare you to find someone worse

No one could ever be as edgy as the Night Lords

I dont blame them for it. Everyone kept thinking they were savages like the wolves so they just gave up trying to change peoples opinions of them and went off to ride bikes and kill shit at extremely ludicrous speeds.

Of course that bit Khan in the ass a bit since nobody knew who he'd side in the Heresy.

On top of that was the extreme denial.
Lionel Johnson (Lion El'Johnson) was a closet homosexual poet that wrote "The Dark Angel"
That alone would make the gay joke clear.
On top of that the "The Rock City" (The Rock) is a music bar from decade ago that was popular with gay people in the U.K.
There is also the meme about British people being gay since WWII
Finally DA like plasma weapons. The guns that shoot "hot loads"

The gay jokes are crystal clear, but the Chinese user got trigger so hard that he even try to ban evade

What game is he from?

>who is Indrick Boreale

Aw yeah! Who's ready for a piece of shit lore drop?

For Iron Warriors I'd add they always got the shittiest assignments and no glory, so they had a resentment thing going on.

>Who's ready for a great lore drop?

FTFY

I'm scare.

I'm looking at coming back to 40k after a mass exodus selling all my stuff shortly into 7th, I just can;t get past Orks as my favourite army aesthetic but really don't want to make another horde army.

With minimal info available but basaed on what we have seen from other armies what do you think the likelihood is of being able to make just nobs and specialists like Burna Boyz and Tankbustas into a 'legal' playable army?

I painted 180 ork boyz once... I don't want to get stuck massive mobs again.

What did they say they were going to talk about next?

Just a quick thing on the DA Wings,

They're separate from the conventional Organisational structure. So DA still have Chapters, Battalions, Companies and Squads like all the other Legions, but they also have the Wings who are then attached to the companies.

Probably need to pick up some HH books or more details, that's just what I gleaned when trying to find fluff for a Fallen army I'm planning

Oh gee with all this fucking lack of information about 8th we can totally tell you what to do

12: World Eaters. Basically berserkers, focused heavily on getting into melee combat. Full on rip-and-tear style.
13: Ultramarines. Jacks of all trades, masters of none. Very heavily regimented, but their primarch basically wrote the book on how to fight at your best.
14: Death Guard. Anti-toxin specialists, who got all the shittiest jobs because of it. Turned traitor to follow the god Nurgle, who may be pestilence incarnate, but at least he cares.
15: Thousand Sons. Occult specialists, when the Imperium didn't believe in the occult. They knew too much, and so got their shit slapped by the Space Wolves. Tried to head this entire thing off, and only revealed to the Emperor that they knew too much.
16: Luna Wolves. The Arch-Traitors, and Sons of Horus. They were the first to fall, and fought with ferocity, often using teleportation technology to cut down enemy leadership before they knew the Legion was there.
17: Word Bearers. Hooboy, where to start. They spread the Imperial Creed, which was basically full on /r/atheism atheism, and then found out that gods literally and objectively exist. Their fall was quick and relatively painless.
18: Salamanders. Artisans and fire specialists, they often made their own weaponry in a time where everyone else was supplied by industrial worlds. They love them some fire.
19: Raven Guard. Scouting and intel specialists. Sort of the mirror to the Night Lords, they liked to prepare the battlefield before the fight happened.
20: Alpha Legion. The true intel and misdirection masters. They had plans within plans, to the point of absurdity, and nobody really ever knew what they were up to, only that it worked.

user please. As much as I enjoy 40k we can agree it has shit lore.

It is like zombie movies they are bad, but they can be fun to watch

No. It's great.

I want to tell you but I won't be able to animate it appearing out of a rainbow in time.

Good info. I honestly don't know that much about it myself.
Did they have that flaw during the Heresy? I was planning to bring it up as part of the post-heresy discussion of what had happened.

Red thirst was existent pre-Heresy. Black rage is what they got after gay angel (the other one) died.

It was great in 4th edition.

I think the lore is good, but silly.
But I don't like them turning up the noblebright. I enjoyed Ultramar when it was a "better imperium" run by space marines, which the Ultramarines basically ignored other systems in favour of.
If they bring that back, I'll be happy.
But they won't.

Alpha Legion is wrong, here's what it should be
>20: Alpha Legion. They're space marines but jewish

Still great, zombie movies are great too.

>16: Luna Wolves. The Arch-Traitors, and Sons of Horus. They were the first to fall
that's wrong, Word Bearers were the first to fall

I'm honestly just in it for the Rogue Traders at this point.

False. Best edition is 3rd, 4th had some good things but that's it.

This is basic knowledge for fuck sake.

Let's hope 8th has decent rules, because lore is already fuck up

He's from one of the old GW short films.

youtube.com/watch?v=ClfhBZR9-As

>GW knows that people cares so little about Ultramar and the Ultramarines that they are late for dropping the lore article about them

While 3rd obviously was best, I still think 4th was great too.
Not the guy you replied to, btw

Changed, thank you.
What would they have to do in the lore to make it good? Consider that they're unwilling to outright remove things.

>Not nearly sucking enough Ultramarine dick
>They didn't spread Imperial creed- they worshipped the emps, and turned chaos when he slapped them down and told them to be atheists.

New lore has thing that even teen ager boys would think it is cringy and stupid.

That is the main issue

That's wrong, The lion was the first to get corrupted

Changed, thank you. I think he'll find enough utlramarine dick sucking just looking into the history.

Do we know anything about how that happened? Or even what kind of a person the Lion is?

They said they'd have detachments for fielding all terminator armies like Deathwing.

Almost 100% certain you'll be able to take all the elites you want. Not sure how good it'll be but making every unit useful is kinda a big thing.

>14: Death Guard. Anti-toxin specialists
wat
Death Guard was all about pragmatism. They didn't care about style, ethics, distinctions: they cared about results. That's why they were OK with using chem-weapons and other shits. Well, also because Barbarus had barely breathable air admittedly

What the fuck

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>no
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It's exactly the same as except it's an older meme and it's circulated around on reddit and dakka dakka alot. Enough for GW to reference it on their facebook.

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Stat autocannons in 8e.

>All-Elite detatchment
>+3CP

>All-HS Detatchment
>+3CP

>New Games Workshop(tm)

I wonder what the plans are for the Valkyrie skytalon this edition. Really wish they had teased that instead of ultramar

Back in the day, there were only traitors and loyalists; there were no loyalist Death Guard, or traitor Blood Angels, or what have you. Dark Angels were an explicit exception to this, and that was their dark secret - some of their group had gone traitor,w hen no one else's had. So they wanted to try to hide it.

Now that Horus Heresy's expanded it and made there be loyalists and traitors in every legion, it's increasingly dumb and outdated.

Here's a trailer for one that never got completed
youtube.com/watch?v=VP7q47BDMBw

The description says fan film but it was official GW

But user what are blackshields?

Most seem to think S7 Ap -1 D3

Stopping the retarded focus on Chaos as the ultimate enemy.

In 3rd every army had its own threat to the Imperium (the protagonist of the setting if you will) and other armies.
Even Tau had better lore. They where the underdogs and where trying to form a federation. Now? It is just Tau and oh I think we have alien allies too?

The Cadian gate rewrite is silly mostly because the 13th had already ended in the eye of terror "codex thing" so the 14th being the 13th electric boogaloo was odd to say the least

Is that so? I'm primarily a Necron player, with a small force of Inquisition - I'd looked into Imperial Fists back before Deathwatch had their own group, but never went too far down the Marine hole. That's why I'm asking here.

Can't handle it lads, I just want 8th already, I have no enthusiasm to play 7th anymore.

I want the Death Guard, I want the Primaris marines.

I want to roll my Adeptus Mechanicus (not Skitarii+Cult Mechanicus) out

I want to know if I can pull my 10k + Orks out of retirement

I want the fucking thing

A relatively new invention.

>16: Luna Wolves. The Arch-Traitors, and Sons of Horus. They were the first to fall, and fought with ferocity, often using teleportation technology to cut down enemy leadership before they knew the Legion was there.
As already stated they weren't the first to fall. Plus they were also fans of drop-pods.
>17: Word Bearers. Hooboy, where to start. They spread the Imperial Creed, which was basically full on /r/atheism atheism, and then found out that gods literally and objectively exist. Their fall was quick and relatively painless.
You could say they venerated the Emperor like a God, He didn't like it at all and told them to stop that shit, so they started venerating other Gods.
>20: Alpha Legion. The true intel and misdirection masters. They had plans within plans, to the point of absurdity, and nobody really ever knew what they were up to, only that it worked.
Surprised the word "spy" is not used in all of this. They had infiltrators in every legion too, which is the basis of a lot of memes.

Is this real life ?

Reads like the "Gentlemen, I like war" speech.

Feeling it
Haven't picked up a brush since they released the FAQ.

Don't even have motivation to paint my /swag/ army.

2 shots s7 ap-2 d2

They gave the friggin superheavies-only formation 3cp! God's sake GW they're lords of war they don't need any help!

I feel you mate

I don't even play 7th and it's still on my mind

Yes, yes it is. Check these trailers out as well