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Retarded jump nuMarines have been canon all this time!
Levi Phillips
SoBcucks blown the fuck out yet again.
Jeremiah Sanchez
Damn this thing is scary. What power level (from a meta perspective not the literal power level GW gives us) is this at from a guard perspective? On a scale of: Guardsmen Ogryn Sentinel Chimera Hellhound Leman Russ Macharious tank Baneblade superheavy Titan
John Hill
Apparently khorne berserkers fight twice now. Presumably the second one is at the end of the fight phase, after everyone else has had a go.
Also, all chaos marines get some rule which lets them attack again if they roll a 6 to hit in close combat possibly just against imperials.
Not really convinced this is good game design. Surely just giving a bonus to hit or more attacks would make things simpler and faster?
1 attack at 3+ with a bonus attack on a 6+ is 0.78 hits per attack and 1 attack at 2+ is 0.83 hits. Is the difference really so important you need an extra set of rolls for every unit every time they fight?
Benjamin Morris
Who Emperor's Children for 8th ed here?
Brody Sanchez
Can a cybot get alzheimer?
Anthony Stewart
Waldo is by the Lemon Russ below the Stormblade
Austin Morgan
>Blight-pox At least it isn't plague disease.
Dominic Perez
If the whole Sangunior is Sanguinius is truly going to happen i hope its just that Sangunior is just like the spirit of Sanguinius and not actually him. IT would at least make me happy to think its just that the blood angels collective warp presence brought a bit of Sanguinius back to help them.
Juan Stewart
Me.
Gabriel Gutierrez
>Perkins Jr. His legal lives on!
Hudson Torres
how does Veeky Forums feel about new scale marines for 8th?
Lucas Jackson
ma nigga
Jason Rogers
Probably about macharius level.
Baneblade > knight > leviathan dread > normal vehicle
Aiden Thompson
I thought the death guard were shorter.
Jason Jones
Where's my scaled mk6 corvus?
Levi Powell
There's significant variation. One of them is the same height as an old marine, this one seems to be the same height as a primaris.
Matthew Ward
Makes sense, I suppose. Gives you more variety and not all of them would be the same height.
Daniel Butler
Can;t wait to see Orks dread mob from forgeworld. Mmmm
Josiah Nguyen
But user that art is from marines.
We are talking of your new overlords the Primaris Marines!
Sebastian Ward
To CSM players, a question: did your Hellbrutes/Dreads have marks or legion rules before? Cuz looking at the missing keywords, and , it seems they will now.
>Regular prayer will reinforce your immune system so that you may repel infection as easily as the Skitarii-manned defence guns of an Imperator Titan repel enemy infantry attacks. I kek'd
Levi Rogers
Pretty sure there isn't going to be a dreadmob list. There will be units with the ork faction and if you want to make an army of dreads you can choose the detachment with loads of heavy support slots.
Justin Wilson
In 30k the non-Chaosified version is 270 points base. Those points don't translate exactly to 40k, but it's basically pointed like a Malcador.
Samuel Sanchez
Yes, but they must make super-cool dread-mob stratagems. Like - 5CP - all orks dreads, kans, nauts, and stompas repair all wounds and Use Only One weapons. Just like in apoc.games.
Evan White
Fine with it. Been waiting a while for true scale marines.
Logan James
no, vehicles haven't have access to marks since 3.5
i don't think it matters since they aren't using their brains
Benjamin Baker
Is there any indication what'll happen to Heretics and Renegades? Did they say they'd be in one of the indexes or are they to be released by Forge World?
Jaxson Ortiz
What's the worst thing you've done inside a GW store? Me: during one of those 4th ed. sweaty neckbeard shoulder to shoulder back to the wall event games that took up the entire store, i crouched down below the table and stole a chaplain (ironic) off the shelf by slipping it in my model bag. I was only 14 or so. still feel bad about it
Nathan Wright
Just wish instead of calling them primaries marines, they were just the new marines period. Scale chaos marines likewise. That way marines are proper scale with proper stats, and are truly elite shock troop/intervention style heavy infantry. On top of it all, you can use your old marines as new marines.
Christian Thomas
Saw this the other day.
Penitent Knights!
Carson Perez
That's dumb, tbqh. Penitent engines are supposed to be cheap and disposable pieces of equipment.
It looks pretty okay though. I give 7/10
Levi Murphy
Does shooting rapid fire still prevent you from charging? Assault still exists so probably.
Elijah Walker
>T8 24W -or- T3 1W to sniper weapons
Carter Lewis
FW has confirmed that they're updating their marines instantly and might get around to updating some other stuff eventually. So we might get a new ork book when 10th edition comes out.
Ethan Turner
>just finished painting a callidus assassin >3 more to go Which assassin should I paint next, Veeky Forums?
Tyler Howard
...
Jace Bailey
Eversor.
Jaxson Smith
>On top of it all, you can use your old marines as new marines. Yeah, that's exactly why they didn't do that.
Luke Edwards
So it's likely I'll have to run my Khorne Ultramar Auxilia as just guard until proper rules come out. Oh well. Gives me time to model the vets as gladiators.
Dominic Brown
green putty+plastic+terminator legs=FUCK YOU
Daniel Baker
Brazzers logo is missing.
Easton Brown
Chaos is one of the FW books they are doing at launch, so hopefully all in there.
Anthony Gomez
What's the best way to find warhammer players when living in the villages lads? Wouldn't mind some 8th editioning.
Michael Carter
So, are they going to release new CSM like the one at the bottom of the pic, or is that just a one-off?
Thomas Kelly
You will get your everchosen undivided.
Noah Adams
>eventually they said everything should be out by the end of june
Luke Garcia
Isn't that a possessed?
New chaos marines are probably not going to happen until story progresses to Fabius Bile stealing the primaris process or something like that to justify them getting bigger.
Nolan Lewis
Anybody have a comparison pic between Abaddon and the Primaris?
Joseph Robinson
head to the nearest FLG i spend 1 hour in transit going to mine
Austin Gomez
I knew the Waldo I used was too fat.
Landon Myers
Why isn't Eldar more popular? Space marines are boring, seriously. If I wanted space marines, I'd play Mass Effect.
Sebastian Moore
I like this idea, and is initially what I thought the new marine was. A bit disappointed when I found out about the "primaries marines" to be frank. And as you say, they could have even given you the option of using the old marines. As long as GW was supplying new stuff (up-scaled everything!), people would eventually buy the new cool stuff, and we all know this!
Wyatt Martinez
Bets on the first old marine character to take the primaris treatment?
Also, does the entire 40k setting run on bigger=better now? The new captain is notably bigger than the generic primaris.
Justin Nelson
The hell does -5 AP do? Remove the 2+ armor entirely?
Kevin Wilson
By everything they meant 1 book per *major* faction. I doubt renegades and heretics will get a mention, let alone rules, Dred mob and Elysian shock troopers will probably be squatted too. Maybe death korps will get rules, but that's as niche as they'll probably go with sub-factions.
Nathaniel Thompson
Dante.
Noah Green
I don't want to be allah snackbared to play with toy soldiers.
Giving marines a new unit will sell those models more effectively than just upscaling marines. Now everyone will buy a new marine army who wants one and the oldfags will buy the new super marines for their current lists
Hunter Miller
Is there anything mentioned so far as to the release of new Daemon units?
Angel Moore
And combat effects that reduce ap.
John Murphy
Fabius bile was already making 'new men' however long ago.
But I think they just represented that with combat drugs.
Will be very sad if there's something Bile can't do which Cawl can.
Kayden Hughes
Probably Siccarius or Calgar. Ultramarines have had the procedure the longest.
>It makes sense. Cypher somehow knew about Primaris Marines. He and the Fallen helped Rowboat to get close. When they left, they took the information on how to become Primaris. We'll have Primaris Fallen. It's why we didn't get a new Fallen kit.
Nathaniel Nguyen
Yes.
Also useful for offsetting any bonuses to save, which seem pretty common.
Jacob Cox
Eldar is very popular but they're space elves and people prefer to play as humans mostly.
Space marines are nothing like mass effect. If you want mass effect it'd be like guard/Tau alliances not space marines.
Space marines would be the villains in mass effect.
Jack Cooper
So it's not true that armor can't be reduced below 6+?
Camden Brown
Armour can be reduced to 7+ (removed entirely)
Sebastian Gonzalez
Yes, although cover is now an armour save modifier so it might still be possible to get a 6+ or even 5+ against it.
Hunter White
he's just a whim away
Easton Flores
Did they ever claim that to be true? What did you think happened when 6+ armour met -1 Ap?
Noah Brown
a 2+ becomes a 7+, but can still be affected by other modifiers (being in cover would bring a 7+ to a 6+, psychic buffs might have a way to improve it also, etc)
if it is like AoS, models without a save at all cannot gain one through buffs.
Robert Clark
1 out of 10 in my local meta is Eldar.
Josiah Rivera
is this the first unit we've seen with over S10 attacks?
They said they didn't want people to be removing models without being able to do anything about it. 6+ being the worst armor save seemed implied.
Josiah Perry
No
William Bennett
1/3 here
Jayden Martin
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Noah Gonzalez
Ah yes New GW
Mason Adams
so it might vary a bit from AoS then. Likely they will also copy over the rule from the GHB that prevents 1+ armor saves.
John Ross
Mass Effect does not have Space Marines At least say Starship Troopers
How much is due to popularity and GW shoving marines everywhere.
Each edition starter has marines. Beside the bike game for DE has marines (unless I forgot of another)
There is marines everywhere, to the point of making the elite soldiers the common regular army.
Jayden Gonzalez
Was it at least nice looking, you walking human garbage?
Landon Roberts
Ork Faction Focus tomorrow. What do y'all expect? >doubling cost of all ork units because model count is too high. >vehicles and guns stop working once you take too many casualties because waaagh energy dying down. >ghazghkull squatted >orks no longer have flyers or jetbikes because no high tech. >ork boys have 1/2 wound characteristic which means, as long as something hits they die with only cover saves allowed.
Liam Thompson
wd kitbash
Ryan Lopez
>getting new players into the hobby is a bad thing the vedros box is actually a really sweet value
Xavier Perez
Treatment? I thought Primaris were humans grown better than normal marines, not marines who got double marine'd.
Lucas Edwards
mechanicus players are becoming the new tau players.