Are we cyberpunk yet?

Are we cyberpunk yet?

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Not here. Too much socialism welfare. We'll never be cyberpunk while that stands.

Well, seeing where America is headed it will not take long.

I'm pretty sure keeping 320 millions people just happy enough that they don't just come out and kill the 4 millions on top is part of cyberpunk.

People have been saying that ever since Reagan first came to power.

Are you one of those people who think cyberpunk is an aestethic?

This is definitively a food and games situation.

HAND OVER TOUR FLESH AND A NEW WORLD AWAITS YOU.

It's not on/off situation. Politics have definitely changed to that direction over time, like how it's currently somehow legal to buy policymakers in America.

Like, add some police robots beating up protestets and a little more vr/ar and we're there.

>All politicians are shit
>None addresses problems fully
>Look to Elon Musk.
> Building a better future for humanity
> Workers are happy and him
>MFW private corporations seem to do better than countries

>Workers are happy
theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/18/tesla-workers-factory-conditions-elon-musk

youtu.be/rStL7niR7gs

This applies to every organization ever.

smells like standard exaggerated bullshit made up by people who feel increasingly threatened by robots taking their jobs

Only when the CopBots learn to shoot protesters.

Or at least openly display their corporate sponsor logos more prominently than their badges

>That evidence is contrary to what I want to believe so I'll just dismiss it out of hand
Nice display, classcuck.

>12 hours a day
>six days a week
keks

>first robo cop is loaded with sharialaw.exe

One of my most dissapoint moments of my life was when I discovered that giant robots are not practic warmachines.

>millions spent on developing accurate gaydar

Halfway. We somehow got all the shitty aspects of cyberpunk and none of the cool ones.

Soon.

>theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/18/tesla-workers-factory-conditions-elon-musk
>Ambulances have been called more than 100 times since 2014 for workers experiencing fainting spells, dizziness, seizures, abnormal breathing and chest pains, according to incident reports obtained by the Guardian. Hundreds more were called for injuries and other medical issues.

OK, so as someone who actually works in a factory: that's really fucking bad. Like, there's no excuse for a number that high just for heat exhaustion and strain. I work with guys who have to move reels of 1/4 inch copper wire around all day and we don't have anything like this.

How many workers? 100 since 2014 is under 3 a month, which is pretty good in some places

Hell a nearby foundry had 121 incidents requiring ambulances in one year, and it's still considered a good place to work. 2500 workers and only 7 fatalities last year is a good track record, especially considering all but two were natural deaths.

>theguardian.com
> Reliable news source
Pick one.

It's hard to know because there's six plants on the premises all the plants are different, but I'd guess around 2,000. For heat exhaustion we only have one or two a month. They've got swamp coolers or industrial fans on all the spots where the guys are supposed to stand for their jobs, and coolers full of Gatorade or water on all the production lines during the summer.

I wonder now if the number is cut down by the fact we have a medical office on the property equipped for most everything outside of emergencies. I hadn't thought of that before I posted last time.

>go to work
>die
>good place to work

If you come to work and die of a stroke or heart attack, you probably can't blame only the worksite.

The two were one idiot who decided to throw a coke can in an open Forge, and the Forge exploded and spewed molten metal on him and a cable, he died and the cable snapped and cut another guy in half.

Rule of thumb: don't mix water and several hundred degree molten metal.

christ

I mean, I know it's a foundry, but jeez

>idiot threw a can of coke into a forge
>kills himself and another guy
This is why we can't have nice things.

Did the idiot at least die slowly and more painfully than the guy hit by the cable?

Holy shit.

death by molten metal burns does sound slower and more painful than death by bisection.

something like 75% accuracy is completely acceptable, if you look borderline enough to be a false positive you should be hanged in principle anyways.

Depends the excact locations hit in both cases.

>click on pic
>see caucasian features

That's some next level weeb shit

I don't think we are cyber punk yet, but I think most of our generation will live to see it.
I think it's maybe 50 years to cyberpunk.

Asian megacities are basically there already, they just need to put teenaged delinquents back on motorcycles instead of scooters

I think it's fair to say that we live in a pre-cyberpunk society, but until all cyberpunk-ish elements becomes clear, I think 50 years is a good estimation.
Of course, some elements may come sooner than other, and sooner to some countries than others.
Bur for instance, until the increase of muslims in europe becomes a real huge problem to the point of them making laws, until oil start to become rare, until advances in computer hardware are no longer much impactant, I guess 50 is more or less fair.

>We had our first Olympic athlete with cyber-legs
>six months later, he murdered his girlfriend
We cyberpunk.

>until all cyberpunk-ish elements becomes clear

Hard to get much clearer than Kowloon Walled City

Sure, they bulldozed it, but still.
We're not pre-cyberpunk, it came and went and we're developing into something markedly less cool.

>like how it's currently somehow legal to buy policymakers in America.

If that's the definition the British Empire hit maximum cyberpunk two centuries ago when Lord Palmerston and the East India Trading Company just BORROWED the fucking English navy so they could peddle dope in China.

Maybe in terms of aesthetic, but I was talking about "themes".

>borrowed the English navy
God history is amazing

>If that's the definition the British Empire hit maximum cyberpunk two centuries ago when Lord Palmerston and the East India Trading Company just BORROWED the fucking English navy so they could peddle dope in China.

You're not far off mark. This kind of stuff was the original basis for steampunk, before it was even called steampunk. Wells and Moorcock both wrote critically on British imperialism through science fiction, albit from very different perspectives.

Then idiots meme'ed steampunk to death and now we have shit stories by shit authors worshipping British society circa 1880 as the pinnacle of human achivement.

Old man's war coming up:

realcleardefense.com/articles/2017/05/25/res_ad_triarios_venit_aging_and_warfare_in_2050_111456.html

Geezers with nuclear space-drones, this'll be a fun future!

If you're writing some cyberpunk, the european [name of area] companies (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartered_company) are pretty good examples to borrow from.

I'm not sure if it was the EIC (though I think it was), but at one point there was a company that every single member of parliament owned shares in - what was good for the company was simply good for parliament

This disturbs me.

What a banal video.

Attacking the source instead of the argument is a logical fallacy.

The South Sea Trading Company, which lead to the South Sea Bubble and subsequent South Sea Collapse, all of which was created basically as a scam to try and ease the British national debt at the time, which it not only failed spectacularly to do, but actually made it worse, such that Britain is STILL paying off the debt incurred from that time period and will continue to do so until the stars grow cold.

I don't know how this site generally feels about Extra History (I like 'em for what they are)...but these videos on the South Sea Bubble are still worth a watch.

youtube.com/watch?v=k1kndKWJKB8
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youtube.com/watch?v=SIlnsP6AjP8
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It was Walpole.

>I don't know how this site generally feels about Extra History

Not autistic and grewn-up enuff.

Homosexuality is not an aesthetic.

This guy has a weird-ass voice, but thanks, I think that's the one

Also geez, the fact that it's still being paid for is darkly amusing

>extra credits
I trust them on providing fun videos on game design and that's literally it.
Seeing their stance on politics in the game design show I wouldn't be surprised if they were revisionist as fuck, especially when talking about corporatism.

He pitches it up in post-production for absolutely no discernible reason.

We're cyber, but in much softer and insidious ways. Doesn't make us lose our humanity because we didn't care about that shit in the first place, or not about it more than new smartphone models and next years Fifa game. Selling ourselves as products is essential to employment, internet aggregates/homogenization, society of the spectacle+assemblages, stuff like that.

There are punks, we're probably not it though. Veeky Forums is more like a subsect of contrary technocratic functionaries.

Iirc, he originally sped up his videos to keep his videos sub-5 minutes (something something analytics), but after his audience grew he stopped that. Unfortunately, people grew used to his sped up voice, so he had to start pitching it up to keep it sounding similar.

>mfw I lived near the town chosen to be his training base
>after the murder, some guys wrote "shoot-a-torius" upon the murale dedicated to him
>massive butthurt ensues

Their game design stuff is like,100000x times worse than extra history.

They even have a followup dedicated to answering/admitting the points of autists in the comments.

Neither of them sounds great.

>We're not pre-cyberpunk, it came and went and we're developing into something markedly less cool.
Isn't that always the way?

I think what the OP was really asking was "when can I buy some robot arms"?

>when can I buy some robot arms
soon
augmentedfuture.com
ted.com/talks/hugh_herr_the_new_bionics_that_let_us_run_climb_and_dance

>God history is amazing
Hell yeah it is.

>Surprised by good authors doing some cool innovative shit, followed by bad authors making hollow uninspired copies of that shit
This is different from every genre ever in what way, exactly?

In no way, really. But it's good for people to be reminded that there was a time when saying 'steampunk' didn't come with an automatic vomit reflex.

yes, and our rapid descent into cyberpunk America can be traced directly back to him.

In all fairness East India Trading Company makes incredible inspiration for cyberpunk shenanigans. so, honestly
>British Empire hit maximum cyberpunk two centuries ago
is sort of accurate.... I mean TECHNICALLY it'd be steampunk... but the concept of steampunk has been sufficiently bogarted by... other things, that just plain saying EITC England is archaic cyberpunk is totally legit.

Wait what? Like I know that every senator and representative had their ass filled with the hand of whatever lobby group is funneling them money, but what do you mean it's legal?

Fucking this.

I'm not going to pretend America is perfect when it comes to corporate shenanigans, but the British, Dutch, and Portuguese virtually wrote the book on how to exploit government assets for personally gain at the expense of locals.

Hell, the only reason the British Crown was able to keep its hands even remotely clean in Africa, the Caribbean, and Asia is because literally everything they did was through private companies and gave them plausible deniability (slavery was a HUGE indicator of this, for example - the Crown "freed their slaves" because they were "good Christians," but did fuck-all to prevent various Corporations from turning them into even less than slaves through wage-slavery and "forced apprenticeships," all while getting kickbacks and lining their pockets with blood money and saying "slavery is totally wrong guys!")

Fuck that makes me mad, that bisected guy probably had a family that have to live without a father thanks to some retard's mistake.

>but what do you mean it's legal?

He probably assumes that lobbying = corruption, when in reality lobbying actually REDUCES corruption by making previously back-room deals with no oversight into suddenly transparent, publicly accountable transactions, reducing the likelihood of legit corruption (i.e. buying a senator a brand new car or giving him preferred prices for his businesses) by instead creating a legal avenue to win the attentions of politicians through publicly accountable campaign contributions which can be easily audited by other agencies (most specifically the IRS) and are made public to the American people.

Before lobbying, somebody who wanted to get a politician to care about public education (for example) would have to negotiate secret backroom deals between him and the politician, and be expected to perform the politician a personal favor to get treatment - and even then he may not get the treatment, because nothing was written down and telling people about it would get you implicated in the process.

Under lobbying, you can contribute donations to the campaign of a senator in exchange for support, treating him as basically another "corporate client." While there is still nothing to force the politician to do what you say just because you pay them, it is generally not in a politicians best interest to ignore people who pay him a lot of money, and since that information is public record, anybody can then use it against them. This makes them more accountable to the people, because the people can openly see who is paying their bills.

It's basically the "legalize it" approach to campaign finance, and it has actually worked quite well overall.

>rapid
>nearly 40 years and we're still not there yet

To provide a biased source implies a biased, and therefore illogical, argument.

>>Look to Elon Musk.

>transparency

bahahaha, that's a good one, which super pac is paying you user? I hope they're giving you a good rate

unlimited bribe money - I mean "corporate person speech" is the acid currently dissolving our democracy if you haven't been paying attention

Go fuck yourself, as much as I like cyberpunk I'd rather keep it fiction

Where is this from?

>Are we cyberpunk yet?

Slowly but surely user.

>all the political and social climate of a typical cyperpunk dystopia
>none of the sickass robo parts

>SuperPACs
>transparent
Is this what a plant looks like?

>we're still not there yet
'cept that we totally are.

Only in your mind.

Short film/project "Keloid"
vimeo.com/75781782#

Robot design by Aaron Beck:
skul4aface.blogspot.com/2013/10/k-e-l-o-i-d-ii.html

no but we will be. See pentagon video on suggestions for how to remove cartels and terrorist enclaves in mega cities.
youtube.com/watch?v=gEPdOZbyzbw

>People connected to one another through giant networks
>Always traceable by little devices we carry with us all the time
>Corporations so powerful they can make states their bitches
>Computers analysing your behaviour to sell you shit directly
>Multiple states developing military exo-skeletons and the likes
>Powerful PMCs
>Cybernetic enhancements getting more real every year

I mean, just a few weeks ago, hundreds of companies were shitting their pants because of a coordinated cyber-attack.
Looks pretty fucking cyberpunk to me already.
Now we just wait for pollution to block out the sun and hope somebody discovers a way to make neons super cheap and WE ARE SET

>Now we just wait for pollution to block out the sun and hope somebody discovers a way to make neons super cheap and WE ARE SET

China is way ahead of us on point A, and replace neons with LEDs and we are set.

The US is catching up on point A, though!

Yes, the chinese wanted all the cyberpunk for themselves and made up lies about global warming and shit, but nobody can fool US! Greatest Country!

Its not like real war is ever gonna be a thing anymore though.

>No flying cars
>Augments are always gonna be inferior to flesh unless you are a retard
>We're going orwellian by the second
The truth always hurts.

The better question is: Why is this just a trailer?

We're not in the cyberpunk I like, I wanted the one that had magic in it.

>I wanted the one that had magic in it.
That's pretty shit taste, man.

You do know the US is functionally an oligarchy at this point right? congress passes laws that are in line with top donators, and seldom pass laws that are in line with what the vox populi want

I can imagine shooting a robocop is easier than firing at a real human bean.

youtube.com/watch?v=vHo7npmGcHU

the future of even more disjointed kids with disposable incomes and a thirst for crime is fast aproaching

Well, hardly the first time something like that's happened. =\

Unlike all the drunk driving accidents though, at least this one makes for a wild story.

>seldom pass laws that are in line with what the vox populi want

Like a wall on the southern border or a ban on muslim refugees?

You have no clue what the "vox populi" want.

>mfw talk with a lisp and have a mincing step due to missing toes

Ban was a half-measure, the worst offending states were excluded.