Pathfinder General - /pfg/

No one could blame you. Just make sure to adjust it to the setting.

Go for it, nobody will care unless the game was massively popular.

Nope.

You can even re-use backstories if it fits the current campaign.

Not at all! Sometimes a lot of investment went into the character and it'd be nice to see it realized in another game. I know how that feels.

Okay, good. I didn't want to feel barred from using that base concept, and kinda wanted to see the character actualized.

Nothing is stopping you from doing so, but ask yourself this. How many copypasta apps actually got in or even get noticed at all?

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It worked for Rinka.

Ouch. This is a good one to remember.

Recall how hard Vult got roasted for copypasting Aisha?

Would never play your animu cat-ears shit.

Rat is shit meta

Who? Post link

That's because Vult went about it all wrong. He just tried to slap Aisha into another setting whole cloth without making any adjustments to fit the tone of the new game and then bitched about how the DM didn't want to let him do anything fun like the crybully he is.

Vult ignored all criticism and copy-pasted the character with no changes. If you're going to re-use an app you need to at least try to improve it.

Newfag

He was fairly pleasant when he applied to Overlewd, but I do recall him saying the GM was being mean about alignment restrictions. Which probably meant the GM said no to him at some point.

Romulus got in Overlewd.

I'm the guy that originally asked the question. I was planning on basically wholly rewriting the backstory, and likely some parts of the characters personality. The only things I'd be porting over would be the class/archetype and the art choice; the name would probably change too.

Viviana got into Blingmaker, despite being a rehash from RotJR.

Was he a copypasta app? I never heard of him before Overlewd.

>Need to follow every overshilled app in every overshilled meme game
Sure is r/pathfinder in here

>not knowing the r@ meme, that has been here since december
Sounds like you're the one not familiar with this place, redditor.

Hello /pfg/.

Do you think it's better to apply to a game with a character that you're really passionate about, but is risky and possibly would not suit the DM's vision? Or would you rather apply with a character that you're meh about but is a super perfect fit for the setting, and that you know would pander to the DM's taste and really up your chances?

Assuming that these are your only two choices.

I really wanna like him, but he gets needlessly mean when a GM doesn't let him get his way.

Like with whatever happened between him and pilgrimage gm. Real reason the game shut down?

He was initially made for BitF, but was significantly-reworked for Overlewd.

Lemme guess, you're the player that constantly memed his app and now you're taking offense that people don't remember your shitty character?

How fucking DARE you don't recognize one of Broodie-sama's characters

Ah, fuck it
Pick one
>Guile of the Diabolic
LE twist on WotR. An Asmodean oracle has predicted the assault on Kenabres with a couple months in advance, so you've been assembled by an Asmodean cleric to go and swoop in to save the day, earn Papa Asmodeus some positive PR, and probably sweep control of the crusades and Kenabres from Iomedae and her ilk. Level 4 start, 30 PB

>Hell's Saboteurs
LE twist on HR. You are a clique of self-interested noblemen, devil worshippers, and chelish loyalists (or maybe somewhat amoral mercenaries) in Kintargo. You've noticed that Bazzy Thrune seems to have lost a screw or two, and that there's a rebellion being brewed with all the subtlety of a blaster sorcerer and the cunning of a 7 WIS bard. This opens the perfect chance for you to play both sides, screw both over, and get some nice social and power advancement while at it. Level 3 start, 25 PB, vigilante gestalt (Legendary stuff allowed except for noble soul and exposed)

strawpoll.me/13041261

If those are your two choices, walk away.

Which character and what game?

Broodie is a piece of shit though

Damn, those are my only two choices? I would prefer to play a character that I'm almost as passionate about, but would also be something the GM can enjoy but isn't blatant pandering (IE "the GM likes the concept enough to overlook the fact that she's mechanically something he didn't want to deal with before, like a Pactmaker or a Vitalist").

Probably the first one unless you think the DM is stupid. Your quality of writing will be far better when you are writing something you are passionate about. The latter will have inferior quality and the pandering may very well backfire if the DM identifies it as such.

Then he's a good example. Re-working a character is good, and sometimes a recycled character is actually better if it fits the new campaign's tone and content better than the old one in its basic concept.

The former because why would I play a character I don't want to play?

Both of those are both too easy to make Evil, and too boring.
Why not run something with an interesting twist of being evil? Like Rise of the Runelords, or Carrion Crown?

>LE
Fucking neither.

The one you're passionate about 100% of the time.

It's better for both your (potential) fellow players and for the GM for you to love what you're doing. If you're truly passionate about the subject, then that'll shine through in the writing, which is something that I, as a GM, look for.

BOOOOORING

>constantly memed his app and now you're taking offense that people don't remember your shitty character?
So I'm all of /pfg/? :^)

Between the two, I'd much rather apply with a character I like even knowing for a fact that I wouldn't get it. A campaign is only worth playing with a character you enjoy no matter how good it is otherwise, and I'm not willing to gamble on the odds that they'll grow on me later. In a lot of cases I'm more interested in making a build and writing the app than actually playing anyways.

That said, beyond those choices I like to shop for games and only apply if I come up with an appropriate concept I like. I can never really get behind the mindset of people who reuse apps or ask for a lot of exceptions, I find that chargen and setting are great tools to build with.

Or Jade Regent?

A ratfolk who ended up in one of the Dragon games. First applied to Rise of the Jade Regent. Kind of a silly character, but they seem like fun.

>Option 1
Baaically HV in a different place with outsiders.

>Option 2
A bunch of people bullying and shaming autistic Barney and friends.

Possibly. Early material about Minkai said the Regent was a popular hero of the people who was shaking up the status quo and driving the nobles toward rebellion, so putting the PCs on their side would be interesting.

Dragon games, yeah Didn't pay attention to that one since the GM and his dickriders shilled it a little too hard for my tastes.

Seems like Dragons 2 is crashing and burning anyway.

What happened?

Because that's how I roll

I would agree, though it's a bit amusing that this is the concensus when browsing pfg suggests that the board thinks the opposite.

Of those two? The passionate but risky one every time. Fuck trying to suck up and play something that I wouldn't enjoy, I had to do that once before and it was absolute torture.

There is a nuance to this and that is realizing what you may be passionate about may come off as obsessive if you don't word it correctly. If you have a good command of language, go for the passionate one. If you are worried you are coming off as obsessive and deliberately trying to play this character, go for the pandering.

It's only the consensus because there're two options presented. When the question is "how do you make your characters" or "what do you do when applying to a game" you'll get very different answers.

Doesn't surprise me in the least. Too many egos for one game.

>If you are worried you are coming off as obsessive and deliberately trying to play this character,
This doesn't make any sense.

Like who doesn't NOT deliberately try to play a character?

Will there be survivors?

I mean, the assumption behind my statement is that you're a decent writer and your character fits the game at least to some extent. If you're a bad writer and your character doesn't fit the game whatsoever, then your passion looks like obsession, which is incredibly off putting.

You mean you don't apply to all of your games with post-post ironic characters?

If I can't get passionate about a character concept, I won't apply to a game. It's just not worth trying to push yourself when you're not going to be able to get in character, feel good about your character, and have fun with it.

That's why I've passed on a lot of games, and been severely hurt when I didn't get into a game I really wanted to. But hey, what're you gonna do? It's not the end of the world, and you can always PM THEM.

deliberate as in they are considerably married to the idea and anything that suggests altering it, in their minds, completely ruins the character.

Some people are a bit too absorbed in their characters. Compromise between the GM and player is often necessary to make someone who is fully appropriate to a scenario.

>the pm them meme
Sometimes a guy wants the anonymity, you know?

Basically, he doesn't want to end up like pic related.

I only know what I've read here. It sounds though like they've had two weeks of awkward sessions, but the DM didn't show up last night, so three straight weeks of trouble.

Are they? I know Rory of course, Broodie likes to come in the thread and brag about his "win streak" with games. But I don't know anything about the other players.

Christ, the doxing has grown more intense.

I don't know what this is.

Egoraptor apparently.

If you are fool enough to leave a trail linked to your online identity then you are asking for it.

Nah, there's too much of a chin for it to be egoraptor

Believe me, you don't want to go down that rabbit hole.

It's weird how in less than a generation we've gone from "keep your E-life and Real life as separate as possible" to the "using your real name for accounts is practically the default".

No, too much chin, not enough looking like a worm coming out of a man's torso with a toupe on.

That would be an enthusiastic man who went camping with other people who shared his love for cartoon horses with wings and big eyes showcasing the proud product of his love for the franchise: Pornography depicting one of the characters either presenting or having oddly placed tits on her neck.

This is why I almost never use my real name for anything online, unless its for banking and uni, and instead use psuedonyms and fake names.

Same.

Druvalia is cute. Cute!

Hell, I use like 5 different handles on the internet depending on where I am, and get really paranoid when one of them is linked to another.

She hasn't, at least not yet. Old habits die hard, and old sins cling like sap, but maybe protecting the party will give her a measure of peace.

It's a work in progress.
But my character won't let anything happen to their new friends, now--they've made up their mind following a recent scare that they will never lose another family, never feel as powerless as the last two times they were left alone.

The sin of existing and being a burden sometimes?

Gotta pull that much more weight, even if it's pretty suicidal sometimes.

>One-hander and crossbow
For its frequency of use in art and posing, you'd think this combination would have actual good support somewhere. Currently it's at like, multiple feats to just not provoke, not even gain anything.

What would be a cool thing that this sort of style should be able to do, that's actually worth a feat? I kinda wanna homebrew one.

aaaaaa time for wistposting

He grew up with bandits and he'd play the role of a frightened, injured child to pull travelers into a compromised position where they could easily be attacked.

Now he goes around trying to make the world a safer place for people.

aaaaaaalrighty then

I want to play as a punchy guy that uses a shield to deal with bladed weapons but otherwises uses unarmed strikes for everything. How do I translate this into game mechanics?

If I take twf, wield a shield for its AC bonus and use my twf to make multiple unarmed strikes do I still retain my shield AC bonus?

Pic related, I wish to emulate this man.

Be able to reload the crossbow and take a 5ft step as a free action after a melee attack, so you can fire it right after your step when you full attack?

pls no bullyyyy
;__;

Shield Champion Brawler

You don't need TFW, since all Unarmed counts as the same hand since its all your body. So you technically keep your shield bonus to AC.

For other options you also bot the Interrupting Shield style for using bucklers and stuff, as well as that one Guantlet style tha allows you to use Guantlets as shields.

Sadly, I don't know who your pic is, so this is as far as I can help you

Brawler's Shield Champion should be good for the concept. Your unarmed strikes can be used with other limbs so you should retain your shield bonus.

It's pretty stupid if you ask me.
But I don't see why you wouldn't just 5ft step inbetween a full attack to get your strike and shot.

>Hit with mace
>5ft step away
>Shoot Crossbow

She absorbed a fraction of the essence of a foreign goddess, then started a very large family