Can you name a single elf originating from a western cartoon, RPG, or other Western fantasy medium, who isn't a pointy eared tree hugger?
Can you name a single dwarf from the same, who isn't either a bearded old guy or a "honorable warrior and totally friendly on downtime" man?
Sebastian Myers
>Can you name a single elf originating from a western cartoon, RPG, or other Western fantasy medium, who isn't a pointy eared tree hugger? Elrond. >Can you name a single dwarf from the same, who isn't either a bearded old guy or a "honorable warrior and totally friendly on downtime" man? Fili and Kili.
Your turn.
Alexander Hall
Marcille and that one dwarf lady whose name escapes me. Dungeon Meshi.
Kevin Anderson
>Marcille isn't adorable
Take that back.
Leo Gray
Marcille is legitimately adorable via her actions and expressions. She doesn't have to resort to being a moeblob. She's cute on her own.
Kayden Carter
Riveria is a stoic elf mage. The dwarves of the same setting are just standard dwarves.
Jayden Russell
>Can you name a single elf originating from an anime, JRPG, or other Japanese fantasy medium, who isn't an adorable moe girl? Arioch
>Can you name a single dwarf from the same, who isn't either a bearded old guy or an "actually adult and therefore totally legal" loli? Senshi Yes he's bearded and knowledgeable, but he's not much of the grumpy old stereotype
Benjamin Peterson
I never noticed the squirrel playing the PSP before now.
Wyatt Long
Can you, OP, make a single post that isn't bitching about anime of fucking Veeky Forums or otherwise a shitpost in some way, shape, or form?
Gabriel Reed
Can you name a single elf who wouldn't be improved by being an adorable moe girl?
Ethan Walker
Senshi is almost cheating. Kui Ryoko is like some brilliant gem in the otherwise generic mire of Japanese Manga writing.
Nicholas Smith
This nigga right here. Elves done right.
Gavin Bailey
>i have read only one manga
Jaxon Lee
Nigga that's a fey
Levi Moore
You're aware that anime are literally cartoons for children, right? Have you tried playing with people who are mentally over the age 14? Or are you going to keep bitching because something made for children is all cutesy and cartoony.
Give me back the 20 seconds of my life I took to type this and call you a faggot, faggot.
Lucas Ward
Hello OP Though I agree that most japanese elves are shit
Elijah Bailey
0/10.
Joshua Ortiz
Pirotess
Nathaniel Adams
Retribution from warmachine >high tech isolation >gas the humans species war now
Dominic Allen
>Can you name a single elf originating from an anime, JRPG, or other Japanese fantasy medium, who isn't an adorable moe girl? Maryelle, Londark, William Massachusetts, KR, Elias Hackblade, Ri Gan (all from Log Horizon)
>Can you name a single dwarf from the same, who isn't either a bearded old guy or an "actually adult and therefore totally legal" loli? Tatara, Woodstock W (also from Log Horizon)
Kayden Smith
Those are humans though.
Eli Kelly
No, they're not.
Joseph Thomas
They're literally human beings playing a videogame.
Ryan Gray
I liked Veeky Forumsbetter when we had quest threads on Veeky Forums instead of complaining-about-anime threads on Veeky Forums.
Brandon Martinez
Elf: The dark elf king Astos in Final Fantasy 1
Easton Bailey
>DON'T YOU DARE CALL MY CARTOONS CARTOONS! THEY'RE FOR MATURE SOPHISTICATED ADULTS SUCH AS MYSELF!
OK, kid.
Robert Wilson
Prince Sigurð Sveinnsson Svarthæð
Owen Morris
Is this some thinly veiled rec thread?
Evan Stewart
>Can you name a single elf originating from a western cartoon, RPG, or other Western fantasy medium, who isn't a pointy eared tree hugger?
The entire Night Elf race. TES subraces. Drow.
>Can you name a single dwarf from the same, who isn't either a bearded old guy or a "honorable warrior and totally friendly on downtime" man?
Korgan Bloodaxe. Kagain. Many Dragon Age NPCs, for some reason, except, of course, Oghren.
Henry Morgan
Nero and Arioche
But Drakengard characters are probably cheating, I guess.
Angel Phillips
> Can you name a single elf originating from an anime, JRPG, or other Japanese fantasy medium, who isn't an adorable moe girl? Link from LoZ.
Angel White
Not as of the start of the story. They are biologically Elves/Dwarves.
Benjamin Clark
Link.
Ian Davis
The videogame is still a videogame. They still have access to the game menus and everything.
More importantly they are neither culturally nor mentally abhuman. They are modern day average human beings trapped in a videogame.
Any differences from fantasy stereotype are not because the author thought up unique elves, but because the elves aren't elves to begin with.
Dominic Gutierrez
The Sage of Miral Lake from Log Horizon is a scholarly old man.
Jose Martinez
Nice b8 m8.
Austin Brooks
>The videogame is still a videogame. Not as of the Third World Fraction.
>More importantly they are neither culturally nor mentally abhuman. Absolutely irrelevant to their physical appearance.
>Any differences from fantasy stereotype are not because the author thought up unique elves, but because the elves aren't elves to begin with. The elves are elves to begin with. The race has been around since before the First World Fraction, i.e. long before the video game. Also, Ri Gan is a Lander, not an Adventurer.
Christian Morris
>Absolutely irrelevant to their physical appearance.
Their physical appearance is superficial and irrelevant, as they're just videogame avatars played by modern day humans.
Kevin Kelly
> You're aware that anime are literally cartoons for children, right? That's false, though. Children are not the main target audience of anime.
Manchildren? Maybe. But calling a Japanese person a manchild is like calling an American fat - it's redundant in the sense that their whole country is mostly like that.
Why do you think escapist fantasies are so popular in Japan? Because people don't want to grow up. Because growing up means living in the shitty post-feudal society that is Japan, where individuality doesn't matter, work ethic is more important than talent and every third person leads a life of a literal wageslave.
So being a manchild is really common there, therefore, manchildren being the target audience of the anime in general isn't something surprising.
Nicholas Bennett
Night elves are 100% pointy eared tree huggers
Sebastian Gray
Their physical appearance is the same as the races that existed before the video game. Intentionally misrepresenting the core conceit of the anime/light novel/JRPG does not lend your argument any validity.
Matthew Anderson
And to add to that, blood elves are one of the few original elf factions to spring up in the last 20 years.
Blood elves are essentially Tolkien elves that fell from grace, and then stabilized and became productive members of society. They learned how to deal with their fel addiction and made friends with orcs trolls Tauren and the undead. Blood elves are like the polar opposite of what a traditional elf faction is.
Night elves are just classic wood elves with purple skin
Luke Anderson
Did you miss the part where the males are hulksters with tree trunks for arms and where their women are described by Grom Hellscream as the fiercest and most perfect warriors he has ever seen? Where they do not play nice with the people who invade their land and passively take it up the ass like in many other, generic "we are in decline" land, but are straight up feral?
Tree hugging implies pacifism and melancholy and slowness, Night Elves are none of that.
Landon Bennett
For a better answer to the elf thing, Varis from Fell's Five.
Jose Roberts
To be fair, in Japan you're also forced to be part of a community. You're forced to go on company holidays and drinking nights with your coworkers (who are often your friends from way back in high school or college), meaning they have on average way more friends than the average American.
I'd rather live in America and especially Europe than in Japan, but it's not all gloom and doom.
Blake Smith
Being a tree hugger doesn't mean you have to be a pussy, wood elves aren't pussies in any setting they're in. Night elves are also Fucking huge so yea they would be decent fighters. They still aren't much of an original faction. Take warhammer wood elves and compare them to night elves, the only differences are physical size and religion.
Blood elves on the other hand are your typical fantasy high elf faction flipped upside down and thrown into a foreign environment that they adapted to almost flawlessly. A once noble race joining a tribal confederation and basically restarting their 10000 year old culture to survive
Ethan Hill
Dark Eldar for elfs Cacame Awemedinade Monípalóthi
And I raise dwarf fortress for all the dwarf.
Caleb Ward
>wood elves aren't pussies in any setting they're in.
You wouldn't know it coming to Veeky Forums because every thread about elves is about them being huge faggots and all the jokes are about their femininity.
Blake Jackson
Being a cakeboy and being able to rip people's jaws out are not mutually exclusive.
Landon Rogers
The elf and the dwarf at the hot spring town in KonoSuba.
Noah Campbell
ERIS PADS HER BRA
Dylan Gray
...
Hudson Wood
>"actually adult and therefore totally legal" loli Why would you want anything else?
Mason Wright
Homosexuality
Cameron Fisher
>To be fair, in Japan you're also forced to be part of a community It's not a good thing despite the way you try to put it. I'd rather have a really small amount of close friends that I truly care about than a bunch of corporate "friends" who are there only for mandatory socializing.
Adrian Hernandez
Because it's "too anime". Because as we all know dwarves are not allowed to be dimorphic and dwarf women must have beards.
Robert Jackson
>t. dumb aqua poster.
I have personally interacted with Eris and I can assure you she does not pad her bras.
Michael Bennett
>I'd rather have a really small amount of close friends that I truly care about How many westerners have that luxury? I agree with you that it's better, but many westerners don't have that option. That's an increasing problem for us, more and more (young) people feeling utterly disconnected from society.
Ryder Rogers
This.
Joseph Lee
>How many westerners have that luxury? I can't really say, because I live in a post-Soviet country, but for me personally it was only a problem in my late teens, when I still was figuring stuff out. I've got a few (namely, two - and one of them is my father) truly close friends I can trust with my life, a couple people I can trust with most of my problems (like five or six, maybe ten at most), and then there are all the other people I just have fun talking with.
>more and more (young) people feeling utterly disconnected from society. And in Japan more and more people are running from life because they are oppressed by the expectations from their society. I think that having a free choice in your life (even if there's no one to hold your hand) is much better than being forcefully guided into a track that society chooses for you. To be honest, I'd rather be unhappy as a consequence of my own choices than being forced by someone to be happy.
>And in Japan more and more people are running from life because they are oppressed by the expectations from their society.
Doesn't Japan also have a forest that everyone goes to off themselves?
Hudson Hernandez
>Norse Dark Elves Wrong.
John Brooks
Stallion. The elf that cares only for going fast.
Luke Hernandez
Aokigahara. Not even that many peole kill themselves in there, many just go there to think.
Austin Reed
Imagine how fucked-up your society is that you can't even commit suicide on a whim, because you feel compelled to kill yourself where all the other cool kids kill themselves.
Thomas Barnes
But she's already adorable and moe. And like 5'2".
Kevin Fisher
When you use the name of some classic concept in your game or piece of media I want it to work as closely to the norm as possible, if you want to do something new, come up with an original name.
Joshua Brown
wow that video is completely devoid of any interesting insight or utility, why would you link it? is that your channel?
Thomas Moore
>elves can't be radiant ancestral demigods because that's not how d&d does it >dwarves can't be giant-born magical tricksters because that's not how d&d does it
Liam Foster
No.
Hunter Harris
>why would you link it? Because it gives insight into manchildren's minds by describing everything they are not. Manchildren are people who don't want to confront reality, they are the ones who throw a tantrum and close away into their escapistic safe space until an adult comes over to their cries and solves their issue. And that's the problem with Japan as I see it. If Japanese people had adult mindset, they would confront reality instead of running away from it. >is that your channel? I fucking wish. I'd be bathing in autismbux right now if that was the case.
Henry Garcia
Legolas. Gimli.
Jesus Christ.
Glorfindel. Every single dwarf in Dwarf Fortress.
Caleb Cook
You just couldn't resist, could you?
Benjamin Ramirez
The thread was shit in the first place, might as well try and derail it.
Samuel Ward
Please grind up your Reading Comprehension
Easton Edwards
>Can you name a single elf originating from an anime, JRPG, or other Japanese fantasy medium, who isn't an adorable moe girl? Deedlit, The elves in pic related
Carter Rogers
>fat elves
Anthony Ross
The suicide forest exists so you're not being a burden on those around you. Instead of forcing your family or neighbours to find your body, or causing traffic disruptions by jumping off an overpass you go to the suicide forest and eventually someone who's job it is to pull the corpses out of the forest finds you
Lincoln Richardson
>that >fat
Caleb Rivera
That's exactly my fucking point. Imagine being so pressured by the society that the first thing you think about when considering suicide is not to bother accidentally anyone with your death. That's fucked up in so many ways I can't even begin to describe.
Nolan Roberts
Hey now. They also have bridge jumpers.
Julian Parker
Yes, pretty fat for an elf.
Dominic Rogers
I don't know. If I were to ever be brought so low as to think about killing myself, I'd probably not want my mother to find me either.
Benjamin Torres
What's it like having no taste, user?
Brandon Wright
Well guess I'm fucked up too. Seriously, when all you wanna do is not be a burden on others it makes committing suicide pretty hard. Especially when you're in a nofuns country.
Blake Kelly
Even on Veeky Forums you show up.
Hudson Cooper
And that's exactly the problem. For fuck's sake, if there's one thing you can be selfish about, it's your own fucking death.
Henry Thomas
Do you feel special for liking elves that only appear in fetish mangas that appeal to a niche audience?
Jackson Clark
Legolas isn't a moe girl.
Gimli isn't a bearded old guy. He's 139, while Middle Earth dwarves can live to be 250. By his people's standards, Gimli is middle-aged.
Glorfindel isn't a tree-hugger. He's a prince of elves, and a champion shit-wrecker to boot.
Dwarf Fortress dwarves run the full spectrum of personality, because they have to for the simulation to make any sense.
Austin Stewart
To be fair, even outside of nipnong land, there are plenty of people who want to kill themselves specifically because they feel like a useless piece of shit who is a burden to everyone around them.
Elves are already a niche fetish unto themselves, you're not making a solid point.
Nathan Myers
Reread the OP dumbass. You missed a very important word.
Noah Ortiz
Do you feel special stalking an anonymous image board posting the same image in response to a niche fetish manga by a guy who likes to draw voluptuous women?
Levi Cooper
Pretty sure Legolas and Gimli didn't originate from an anime. Jesus christ, learn to read.
Gavin Rivera
Oooooh.
Hah.
Well, you live and learn.
Samuel Thompson
>Elves are already a niche fetish unto themselves No, they aren't. Elves in porn are just humans with some strange ears. Everybody aside from very autistic elf-haters will be able to masturbate to them. What's true is that there are some elf-fetishists, but they masturbate alongside anybody else.
Julian Powell
the entirety of the city state of Ishgard from FFXIV those pansies from Gridania need not apply
Blake White
If you are not allowed the courtesy of being selfish even in your death, then where the fuck are you even allowed it then?
I get the logic of "I don't want to be a burden" (mainly because I was such a person myself and considered suicide when I was in an emotionally edgy phase), but the thing is, if you truly feel like you are being a burden, you don't fucking kill yourself - instead you try to alleviate the burden by helping the people around you that you feel close to. And at some point, when you succeed at alleviating the burden, you simply stop feeling useless, because at some point the people close to you start feeling grateful of you helping them.