Laughing at the fact that boxnaughts just got their +1 attack, then were left in the dirt once again as an inferior walker.
Camden Jones
>"TWINS THEY WERE" >"PREPARE TO BE PURGED"
Lucas Bailey
>daily duncan
Nathaniel Ortiz
Is 8th ed going to Make Grey Knights Great Again?
Luke Hill
So now that we have the rules out there. When are we going to our hands on some armys
Adrian Cook
Pretty much. You get the rare army that can do both fairly easily, like 30k Mechanicum, where my army has 100 Fearless chaff that can form a line across literally the entire board and sweep the while thing. In battles against melee armies that can quite literally be the entire front line. Thing is, I can also have things like Macrocarids, which are Land Raider Redeemers sans Assault Vehicle filled with 3+ armour Custodes carrying Assault 4 PE Gravguns, and artillery batteries, AND suicide drop Haywire, AND squads of 4W Kastelans.
That basically means I can do everything at once, and blast any strongpoints like the ones you mention to tiny bits, occupy and hold with heavy tanks and such and wait for the Levies to make their way through to me. That SHOULD be what Guard, Chaos and Nids can pull off, but everything gravitated to deathstars unless you made the tarpits truly gigantic and infinite, like the Renegades Unending Host. Hopefully that will change in 8e.
James Bennett
First for Khorne predator tank with all the guns and destroyer blades
William Edwards
Well, GK are gonna hit on a 3+ in CC, and Force weapons do D3 wounds by default and no longer have to be turned on. And no more deep strike scatter. And being able to charge after deepstrike.
Isaiah Reed
Soon to be dead god.
Evan Reed
based slanny the tranny
Easton Morales
>eddie is finnaly making a come back Got to say, I love the new dreadnought. It does a much better job of being the new eddie than the contemptor IMO
Adam Perry
Well... rip.
Easton Watson
>Hitting on 3+ >D3 wounds >Always on >No scatter. >Charge after deepstrike
I CAN ABHOR THE DAEMON TO THIS
Brody Bennett
It's gender fluid, cis scum.
Jason Wright
Shame he died.
>honourary bolter fire in the distance.
Asher Cook
Oh don't worry I'll be sending your brother to finish the job soon enough Girlyman. Or you could join him and Drago...
Oliver Evans
...
Dominic Diaz
>mfw best god first post
Henry Hernandez
>In a threeway ofcourse.
Julian Ross
when on a pleasure planet...
James Powell
Needs a tau sept in there somewhere.
Justin Johnson
>Mortarion announced
Still have a gigantic painting backlog not even counting the new stuff I have to buy to make my Word Bearers fit for 8th edition abd they keep releasing interesting shit non stop now. Pls GW stahp it I can't paint that fast.
Anthony Morris
Zoneghostbusterswebm
Easton Cook
I want a super boxnought with a jump pack like Intercessors.
Connor Morales
I have better god to worship.
Hunter Green
And a Cog Mechanicum.
Anthony Hill
Guilliman's cock?
Jace Mitchell
Fuck. I didn't know I wanted that until just now.
I sorta want it to have giant turbo fans on the side like a plague drone.
Zachary Bennett
>He did IA and HH books >He also did FF WHFB and 40K books for the RPGs
That's sad. How old was he and what made him pass away?
Luis Johnson
Yes space elf. Give your souls to totally not Slaanesh.
Brayden Martin
judging by the picture he wasnt in the best of health
Julian Bailey
>better god
i also worship her feet user
Tyler Garcia
Nah. Depends on how much but he doesn't look that much.
Maybe heart problems? But then it would be linked to the above.
Darn. Still sad.
Cooper Morris
Not that old.
he had cancer
Juan Young
>Spoiler
FUCK. It strikes again.
Chase Green
>>Mortarion announced Where? I feel like I'm seriously out of the loop right now between this and the new dread in the OP.
Ayden Torres
>totally not slaanesh I would really like Slaanesh's defeat to be brought about by cegorach convincing her to fuse with ynnead with a promise of surpassing the other ruinous powers.
Ayden Fisher
>T H I C C
Matthew Gomez
How do detachments work?
Like, some of them are meme ones that just say '1 lord of war'.
What use is that? Can you take multiple detachments?
Brayden Powell
>Primaris keep losing 2 wounds and 30" weapons and still get their ass handed to them? I wanted to like this guys, I'm dont know what to think now.
Christopher Sanders
>Can you take multiple detachments? Yes.
Grayson Cooper
The feet look way to small from this angle.
>Can you take multiple detachments?
Yes. You can mix and match them any way you like.
Jackson Rodriguez
>Spoiler >Releasing new Nurgle stuff right now There is only GrimDark.
Alexander Reyes
That seems a bit bureaucratic.
You'll just be able to run anything really. Command points are the only thing that this affects in the end.
Parker Perry
>primaris marines have already taken enough casualties to field dreadnoughts
Kayden Green
maybe its the drone's 2d6 auto hit shots and the lord of contagion's airborne aids rule
Oliver Johnson
Remember existing marines can be upgraded to chadmarines, hence Primaris captains, ancients etc.
Michael Ortiz
Nah, Cancer is all Tzeentch, cells changing causing mutations. Turns out, change is bad.
Nathan Martinez
Little brother marine had an accident while trying to impress his big brother and Celestine.
Samuel Thompson
Shh. Haniki is sleeping.
Jeremiah Smith
If they can swap helmets you can probably just stick normie space marine heads in a box.
Christian Peterson
Do we know anything about Nurgle Daemons for now? Two Start Collecting boxes are enough to make a legal 1k pts army for AoS but I'm worried it will be not enough for 8e
Lucas Taylor
That's the entire point of it. GW didn't want to invalidate any armies that are currently possible with formations, which in understandable. Nothing is more infuriating than your army becoming illegal.
Command Points, Keypoints and Strategems is how you'll be rewarded/punished for how you use them.
Seems just to be a new pattern of dreadnought for space marines though. The teaser said "Space marine redemptor dreadnought", nothing about it being primaris yet.
Ian Harris
Or the 6s inflict no wounds. Or the 6s inflict mortal wounds in melee. Or the 3 niggas who are basically HQ characters.
Christopher Kelly
Imagine being the Coffin-Marine who gets dragged out of your chill killy coffin to be injected with all sorts of shit before being jammed back inside a different box that is now much taller, throwing off your balance.
"Tankred ain't gonna endure this shit"
Charles Jones
Maybe the plague marines are just way more resilient with their FnP than the primarines with their extra wound.
Eli Hill
The community posts were specifically saying "wait until you see the primaris dreadnought", so no
Brandon Turner
>Guys, I can't feel my storm bolter!
Seems cruel to bully the elderly like that.
Juan Price
Well yeah, it's +1T and a 1/3 chance to ignore any wounds that make it through their save, fuckers are really resilient.
Matthew Moore
You really took the old grey for a jog around thinking city, boi.
Juan Sullivan
Following the arguing last thread Space marines are most popular Followed by spiky marines then? What follows that, what is non marine and popular, what will GW be cashing in on next
Gabriel Carter
But that answer made zero sense, because why would you not be allowed to just take the redemptor dreadnought and zero primarines if you like the one and not the other ?
It just sounded like a poor PR salespitch. Why would liking the dreadnougth suddenly also make you like numarines ?
Andrew Reed
>Dead tyranid fwp
William Perry
>getting asked to paint something that looks like it'd be fun to paint by a friend
Landon Gonzalez
I know. I'm not defending it, yet I have to admit that's what we were told.
Oliver Williams
They just don't have the firepower. Look at how many Death Guard models there are and how tough they are.
>20 poxwalkers with DR >7 3+ sv T5 Marines with DR +2 characters + a psyker that makes them get hit at -1 penalty >10 Wound 3+/5++ T7 blight drone with DR >2+/4++ 6 Wound T5 Terminator Lord with DR Meanwhile a Primarine costs basically the same as two Tac Marines but gets half as many shots, the +6" range and a bit of AP doesn't make up for that unless you're shooting at models with a very specific armour save and no DR
Hell even the Inceptors with their 18 shots are only doing 12 hits 8 Wounds ~5 dead Poxwalkers per shooting phase, or 30pts worth, meanwhile that Inceptor unit costs 160pts and you've got stuff like the Blight-drone and the Lord tossing out Mortal Wounds.
And then those poxwalkers can respawn their guys by killing Primarines in CC.
Juan Cooper
Mortarion/Death Guard stuff will be released following 8th. Hoping Imperial Guard are next up for an update.
Liam Williams
What are you on about?
Cameron Ward
anyone else hoping chaos furies get new models or am I alone on this?
Chase Nguyen
Did some IG vs SM with the rules we know so far. Game was quick and intuitive. Battle cannons where good against both meq and dreadnoughts. Had an IG infantry squad wreck a tactical squad in hth. Charging to attack first is pretty good.
Julian Nguyen
I hadn't really thought of it, but 1/3 deaths isn't that far from 1/2 deaths. The +1 toughness probably makes up the difference.
Chase Bennett
New models is always a good thing, but if I were to make a list of the minis I'd want new sculpts for Furies would be towards the bottom.
Asher Jones
Can't wait to watch these punch some MC faces
Christian Brown
Will things like the Poxwalker curse of the walking pox require "reserve points"? In Age Of Sigmar i remember a lot of cool abilities like neferata's "summon a vampire when you kill a hero" got kind of shut down by reserve points, since they became inferior to just taking a vampire or summoning it with a spell.
Xavier Long
It's not the Plague Marines being that much better, it's the combination of the Blight-drone, the 20 chaff guys, and the characters.
The Poxwalkers being immune to Morale probably pushes them over the edge.
Jason Cruz
So. Are the rulebooks really going to be cheaper or was that a GW lie?
Kayden Rivera
Yeah!
Evan Hall
It only requires reserve points if it says it does. Since we have seen the full rules of the Curse of the Walking Pox we know that it doesn't.
Jayden Cooper
The rulebook is free
Joseph Moore
do you read the threads at all, shit for brains?
Chase Davis
Miss my painting buddy. I paid him in models, or assembling his stuff. Like below starvation prices.
Nicholas Ortiz
The basic rules will be free, who gives a shit about the rulebook.
The Index books (replacements for Codex books) will probably be expensive as hell since each contains multiple factions.
Caleb Adams
Bullshit. I mean the physical copy.
Juan Morris
I see it now, thanks. I wanted to make a full Primaris army, but I'm new at the game and dont know how to counter people with such a strong army literally out of the box and who will kick my ass even if they are just as new. What should I look for to equilibrate?
Austin Roberts
>The Index books (replacements for Codex books) will probably be expensive as hell since each contains multiple factions. not true. They're just a quick overview of all the units in the factions, no fluff or anything. They're going to be fairly cheap.
Samuel Garcia
No mention of that. But seeing as it's going to be an optional luxury, don't bet on it.
Oh! Is there an example of a rule that says it needs reserve points? I know they vaguely alluded to pink horrors needing reserve points to split.
Dylan Campbell
20 european burgerdollars. Not expensive at all.
Ryder Anderson
>The Index books (replacements for Codex books) will probably be expensive as hell since each contains multiple factions.
They will be 20$/€ according to the price leak.
Chase Hernandez
They are ~22 Euros / 15 GBP each, so not very expensive.
Robert King
Well fuck, that was cool.
Camden Allen
So how badly do you guys think the various flavor of xenos lore are going to get simplified and butchered because we dont even have individual codexes anymore? How much do you wanna bet that the ultramarine entry is gonna be longer than say: The tyranid one? Especially considering that they probably donated 50% of the blood angels entry to the ultramarines.
Dylan Wright
I will miss old codices. I like the lore+rule combo.
Luke Cook
How would DA or Iron Hands react to primaris marines?
Jackson Rivera
I am also new and i dont like marines but i don't think theres much people can tell you yet. Because we don't know the stats of other things, like the space marine tanks, walkers and land speeders it is hard to know which model is right for you. That said if you can find some strength 6+ weapons that do many hits those might work. Is there a big flamer weapon like that?
Christopher Kelly
>The Index books will probably be expensive as hell Not true. Every Index costs 15 british-dollars >replacements for Codex books Also not true "Oh, and don’t worry, this doesn’t mean Orks and Tyranids are now on the same side, it just means they share a book for the moment. In the future, they’ll get their own dedicated codexes."
Jacob Stewart
Painting buddies are blessings upon the world. I really love my friend and enjoy spending time painting things with him. No homo at all