Infinity General: Propaganda Edition

It's not like the BoW guys know what they're doing. It'll be down to nomads and PanO again, I think, as they're the most populous factions.

Apparently the quality of battle reports is pretty important and a lot of people skip those.

Also if you don't have a zone then run interference. Pick a faction you want to win that's not PanO/Nomads/Ariadna and help them or just pick a faction you hate and oppose them on whatever they're trying to do.

>Apparently the quality of battle reports is pretty important and a lot of people skip those.

I'm talking to one of the BoW guys on facebook right now, trying to get an answer out of him as to how exactly battle report quality matters and how it affects scoring, but he refuses to actually say how the rules of the campaign work. So I figure they don't actually know and are just going to fudge things behind the scenes to make what they want to have happen happen.

I saw the results for day 1, and it was Nomads, Ariadna, and PanO all pretty close, with Ariadna slightly ahead. Yu Jing and Haqq were kinda close, and CA and Tohaa were jockeying for second-to last. Aleph was dead last. And these numbers matched up pretty closely with campaign population. So I think it's going to be like last time, where it's going to be preordained by faction numbers/cheating (possibly be people who know how BoW's scoring system works).

I'm hoping they go through and delete any battle report with 1-2 star ratings.

Also giving double weight for quality bat reps would be cool.

Wotan just seems like a dumb fucking idea.

I'm sure the results from Wotan won't delay the RPG by too many years.

In terms of the website quality, missions, and overall presentation Wotan is pretty good.

The mistakes are going to be in scoring and in how they've essentially set up certain factions to lose. Tohaa, Aleph, CA, and Haqq should all not have their own bases of operation and instead they should be an instigation force aimed to mess with enemy plans.

Pretty sure the 'total score' includes the home ground bonuses, so the accuracy is suspect at best.

Also won't be surprised if CB decides to go full favouritism again like last years

>The mistakes are going to be in scoring and in how they've essentially set up certain factions to lose.

Elaborate, please. I'm not too sure on the scoring; for whatever reason they aren't explicit in how it works.

Where do they explain home ground bonuses, whatever those are?

It's a cool idea but in general the kind of person who gets involved in running these sorts of things plays favorites and is terrible at math, sooo....

CB's ELO system was completely fucked, for example. Their ranking system is a joke.

The scoring is supposed to be 3/win and 1/draw or something if it's like last year, and no explanation for the bonuses other then that they are just there because reasons.

Last year campaign produced a few paragraphs. Mostly retarded bullshit.

Can pictures be uploaded with battle reports? That would be mad important for me, I put a lot of work into pics (stretching games duration a lot, but my clubmates appreciate the eye candy).

Pic just kinda related, that kind of quality I obviously only get with posing and special preparation.

Im hoping they have learned from their mistakes with flamestrike

Man some LED mood lighting for tables would be dope. Jealous looking at my cardboard. Also im pretty sure pics are incouraged for batreps.

Damn, great work on the pic.

You should be able to post pics in the reports yes. The more the merrier I guess, better if you did well in the reports.

Remember fellow Yu Jing commanders, secure the CIC first!

>more baltic
>wanting to be inferior Balt instead of superior Slav
>not picking either of the two actual Slav factions instead of Aussies, Flips and Huahuehuahues
Disappointed in you, son.

slavs are ab humans. Finish and Lithuanian master race.

So I bought , the starter set, nisse with hmg, auxila guard box. Now I have enough money to either buy the fusiler box of special weapons, used, but cheaper then at store, or an aquila guard+spec ops, which is obligatory from what I was told.

Which of the two option would be better for someone that starts?

Fusillier if playing or planning a sectorial army
Aquila if playing vanilla Pano.

ok thanks. May I ask why fusiliers are bad for vanila panoceania, when there is 3 of them in the starter set?

Combi Fusilliers are good, Special weapons Fusilliers are better in a fireteam, if you dont get access to a fireteam, get some combi fusilliers and a good platform, like the aquila.

The combi rifle Fusis are great in vanilla. They're a cheap way to provide orders for your army. But since they don't do much other than provide orders and maybe protect the backline, giving them special weapons is a waste of points and SWC.

In sectorials (or at least the NCA sectorial) that changes because they can join a link team, which makes giving them big guns far more worthwhile.

makes sense. how many combi fusiliers does vanila panoceania need? and if it is more then 3, do I have to buy a second starter set?

Paramedic and FO are okay options to have, though. Either you have flash pulse and repeaters or a medkit and a extra specialist regardless. Plain fusis if you desperately need those two point elsewhere and a possibly lt proxy.

I think 3 is enough, but you might want some other LI's to fill in the ranks. Sensor minelayer Acontecimento regular is better backline protector for a small swc investment.

ah, a guy just offered me to sell me some orc models with various weapons, very very cheap, and there is 5 of them , armed in some sort of spike guns, one with a RPG and some female ones with shorter stockier gun.

3 is a fine number. And if you need more cheerleaders there are other troops that can fill the role such as Acontecimento Regulars, Auxilia (which you already have) and Mulebots.

The regulars are only in the other starter sets, because I can't find any blisters for them? On the other hand my store doesn't have all inifnity models ever made.

There should be old regular blisters floating around. The new version is found only in the new aco starter, but we should get at least the missing hacker profile in a blister at some point.

Meh, well for next month I will think about getting some more stuff, maybe croc man or something.
Panocenia doesnt seem to have many single models in blisters, everything is in boxs. I understand that two nisse are more then enough, and that croc man FO are goood, but are there other single models of the not super hvy type I should look in to?

Single blisters were more common in the past, but they really bloat the range and the game becomes more and more difficult to stock.

Here's how the game works: every model you field gives you an Order that you can spend to activate any model you want. So if you have 10 guys, you have 10 Orders.
Cheap light infantry like the Fusiliers are there to provide those Order. Think of them like land cards from MtG: they don't do anything on their own, but you need them to play your big guys.
Now note that some pieces are more defensive, like Nisse with a sniper rifle and will probably not take orders themselves. Auxilia are good to grab an objective, but after that you can just leave them to be speedbumps and another source of Orders. Big guys like Aquila Guard or ORCs will want to move all the time and they will be spending their Orders a lot.
Usually 3 Fusiliers for a generic army is fine.

Noob here, please help me understand how do the active-reactive actions work.

For example, if I want to Move and Shoot:

1- I declare Move and specify the exact path I am going to walk
2- I move the model along the declared path until it is in TLOS with and enemy model.
3- The enemy declares 1 shoot against my model, I can't do anything against this.
4- If I am still alive, I continue moving along the declared path, stopping if I get in TLOS with any other enemies
5- Once I reach my destination, I declare Shoot, divide the dice among one or several enemies and they can respond in several ways.

Is this more or less correct? If so, how does Move and Dodge work if I can't react to enemies' reactions?

>Fingolian Master Race
>Playing as the faction that literally includes Teutonic Knights while memeposting Lulthuanians
Goddamn, son. I don't even know which to make fun of more.

Enemy shot doesnt happen till you complete movement, but it uses range and cover of when he declares shoot

And you have the option to shoot back even if you end the move out of line of sight of the model. The order sequence isn't A then B, both actions happen concurrently.

Everything happens at the same time in Infinity. If you declare a move-shoot full order, the enemy can decide where along your movement he will shoot you, but you still shoot and both shots are resolved in a face-to-face roll.

Actually the exact shooting location is decided in resolution phase, after both sides have decided what each model will do against whom. So move-shoot isn't that different from shoot-move in principle, that you can't force an reaction before you, say move out of cover.

I'm not even sure who or what nationality you try to meme here.

t. different user

Wait so basically there is never a situation of non-confronted dice throws unless I do Move-Move in which case the enemy gets effectively a free shot?

Depends on the exact situation, but if your end goal is to shoot a bitch, and they shoot back, it's going to be face-to-face.

Most confrontations should probably result in a face-to-face unless you've fucked up or been out played.

Or there is a direct template. Or you want to attack that one figure particularly and allow the opponent to take some potshots with some mook. Although in the latter case you've probably been outplayed.

If you get AROd by multiple models you either have to split your burst or order dodge to F2F both.

So what is happening in this pic? Isn't the reactive player effectively shooting twice?

Can't decide between Aleph or CA

>shooting twice
How did you came to that conclusion? Notice that no dice are rolled before step 4.

Well he is literally shooting in pic 2 as a reaction for the Move and again in pic 3 as a reaction for the Shoot.

You can't declare more than one ARO per order spent per reacting figure. The graphic in third picture just act as a reminder of the ARO declared in step 2. The actions are, after all, simultaneous in nature.

It's the same single shot in both pics.

Ah, alright, this simultaneous thing is confusing at first.

So basically you declare and move everything in the current action first, and only in the end you throw dice.

Another question, seeing that all the basic actions are always Move + Whatever, what if I don't want to move at all and just do the second part, does the enemy get an ARO?

Short moving skill aren't required and an order can consist of short skill if you desire. You can also declare the skills at the order you wish, so discover + move, for example. Usually it doesn't have a huge impact, but you can do some mind games with it or there might be some trickier interaction at work. Move + shoot is safer, though, as if the second short skill generate new ARO's, you don't get to react to those.

Hey, my friends have been trying to get me to play Infinity for the last six months, I feel I'm slowly succumbing to pressure, and apparently there's a sale this week, so I might as well do it now.
Is this bundle a good starting point?

ALEPH is super powerful. CA is cooler but harder. Depends on how WAAC you are, if the models aren't enough of a sell one way or the other.

You can also buy both.

Sure is. If you have a friend getting into Yu Jing (which is very likely), split the Red Veil box and take the Haqq stuff there, too. You'll have a nice set of models for a variety of Haqq armies.

Yes, but that set is for sectorial. Also the mooks in the starter pack want some extra models to impersonate as.

You live in the USA? Then no. Shipping and currency conversion are not in your favor.

Gamenerdz is your best bet on buying the minis and they ship fast.

I have no idea on if the minis are good, never played vs Haqqislam. Pick the faction that has the coolest minis for you and remember you're running 10-15 models in most games, so you dont need to enjoy the entire faction.

Nah, I live in central Europe, shipping's gonna be around 11 eurodosh.
All right, gonna ask around.
What does that mean?

Signed up for Combined army.

Im going to do my bit :D

And also does anyone have infinity wallpapers?

Sectorial is alternative way to play certain faction. With "vanilla" armies (as they're commonly called), you get access to all the figures in the faction. With sectorial you get to play with more limited number of units, but you get more of those and certain units can form "link", that confers bonuses to link members. In addition sectorials often have access to some units not in their faction. Quapu Khalqi, for example, can take some mercenaries from Nomad faction.
The starter pack line infantry has holoprojector rule, which mean that they can begin the game masquerading as some other unit, whichi you reveal when they do something meaningful, like shoot. To get full effect of this special equipment, you might want to get some extra figures to fool your opponent with.

Also you probably want at least fifth Kaplan, that's sold separately in blister, to get full benefit from linking rules.

I plan on running the infinity RPG, but I need ideas for adventures in the human sphere.

I really want it to feel like James Bond in space. Any suggestions?

As the Bagh-Mari HMG shows, it doesn't seem to trouble them in any way.

Expect the previous model was to release every option with a separate blister. So we got rifle baghmari, hmg bagh mari and sniper bagh mari. That's three separate products to stock and we haven't covered the hacker profile. Current model for the AVA 5 premium link models is usually 4 as a pack and then 1 in blister or starter.

Quick Start & Kickstarter Adventure if you haven't looked at those yet.

CA probably needs the players most. it sucks that they will always be the enemy faction which really stunts their story potential

Finland i assume. I am pretty sure there is some silly meme-thing about finns being asian-like. Weird, i know.
*your friendly russian*

That's pretty common meme in /int/. Same tier to "le epic surrender monkeys" -french and americans getting shot and keeping their tipped shoes in microwave oven.

What does microwave oven have to do with surrender? Weird.

By the way do i need to buy much stuff in addition to Onyx Contact Force in CA? The tohaa there have bribed me.

I'd pick up a Sphinx, Xeodrone Box, and an Umbra Samaritan. Ikadrone box+antena is also a potential idea for cheap orders.

Sphinx is a TO TAG. Nough said.

Xeodrones are TAGs disguised as Heavy Infantry that can form a Haris with a Samaritan. Burst 5 red Fury on a 3 structure model with super jump is nice. If he takes some damage you can easily repair or just use the other Xeodrone to lead the Haris. Stronk.

hur hur friendly russian is an oxymoron worth its own meme.

can someone explain how I can use aleph units in my panoceania? I know that people use some of the bots and naga mine alyers, but I can't find them on the unit list.

Only some sectorials can.
NCA can take Garudas, SAA gets Nagas.
Vanilla can't

Their Acontecimento and Neoterra sectorials have access to select ALEPH models

Aco can get several greek heroes in their latest addition, oddly enough.

They are for sectorials

Neoterra gets Devas and Garudas

Acontecimento gets Nagas, Drakios, Scylla and Teucer

Fluff reason being that Aleph troops are being trained in jungle warfare on Acontecimento prior to being sent to Paradiso.
Still not a good reason to not have some Acontecimento based Skirmisher.

I wish they weren't needed in Acon.
Its not that they are bad, on the contrary, but especially Teucer feels wrong to me.
The only reason Acon has him, is that he offers the only source of heavy weaponry in the form of Feuerbach and a K1 sniper.

PanO can't have nice things.

I want my 26 point Camouflaged, Infiltrating, Boarding Shotgun, minelayer, FO, BS 12, WIL 13, ARM 0 Chilean based Skirmisher.
Also, fire grenades.

So for those of you who questioned the legitimacy of legionforge, I have answers as my order came in. Polite customer service and shipping was quite timely considering the Atlantic was in the way. Unfortunately they are defo recasts.

>all that flash
Jesus christ.

Gorgos is $36 at GN with free shipping, €24 at Legion with €6 shipping. After conversion, that's $36 for real and $30 for fake stuff.

That's a pretty decent discount, though I probably wouldn't bother unless I was dropping $150 for free shipping. Bostria hasn't ticked me yet, though, so I'll buy legit anyway.

How good is the sculpt, after recasts?

>after recasts?
After removing flash, rather.

What is legionforge? They sell recasts?

Then I hope we get a new unit with ML or something so he can go away forever. Greeks need to fuck off out of my ASA.

Nagas can stay though.

How long did shipping take? Also did you order any infantry minis? Considering ordering Dire Foes characters

So a friend who plays infinity who has been pushing me to try it for a while, mentioned the bundle sale and I am now tempted.

I was thinking of getting the Aleph bundle but I have two questions:
1.Well is the bundle any good, or I am getting a bunch of crappy units?
2. Can I latter add sectorial units to my vanilla army? (Like Ajax or Myrmidons to it) or vanilla units and Sectorial units are mutually exclusive?

"Vanilla" Aleph can run all units, including Achilles. Sectorial lists have more limited selection.

Also none of those units are *bad*. And they will probably all be available in the Vedic sectorial, whenever that gets released.

A few months before we get ours, and a week before the heat death of the universe.

Ok thanks.

To be honest I do like more the Steel Phalanx units (the Greek sounding ones) than the vanilla (vedic?) ones, but that bundle seems to much of a steal to not get and then I can add those I like later.

Aleph is made up of Hellenic (mythological Greek), Vedic (mythological Hindu) and Aaronic (mythological/Old Testament Hebrews).

If you want to play Steel Phalanx none of this will be useful, sadly. I'd just spend your $$$ on some of those units, with shipping and so on if you buy from an online retailer you won't be costing yourself much, and IIRC you can get a pretty decent Steel Phalanx army for like $200.

>Aaronic (mythological/Old Testament Hebrews)
Which ones are those? The generic bots?

We haven't seen them yet, but apparently they're the engineers/R&D guys. A bunch of nerdy Jewish computer programmers and robotics engineers.

Apparently they're the ones who named the Aleph remotes, as you've noticed.