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Has there been a Kharn/Khorne Berzerkers leak yet?

If you listen to the doomsayers they managed to beat Tau for lowest tier spot.

>Tyranids are great again
>Tau and Chaos got cucked

Holy shit Carnac is going to have an aneurysm

Can 8th get any more based??

But no, seriously, Chaos might be in a mediocre spot for now but they will also probably be one of the quickest Factions to get their Codex releases which should bring back Legion rules and fix the other things.

Yes m.imgur.com/a/ayv2c

So list of factions convinced they are the worst

CSM
Tau
Necron
Ork
Space Marines?

But I thought Carnac was a Necron player hence the name?

they get to attack twice in a turn

speaking of sisters that special character canoness is not available any more right?

So I picked up a cheap AdMech Start Collecting box, what do you folks think is the safest option to assemble, Rangers or Vanguard?

i got it all sister

Berzerkers are neat

Kharn kind of blows

who here hype for 9th edition?

SO FOR THOSE WHO MISSED IT

Orks got their points. And they got fucked hard.

How is SoB state at the moment? Oh wait is true now we are "Imperial Agents"

Somebody make a dump of all the leaked photos for the love of Gork

Like Orks in 7th edition; painfully nerfbatted with extreme prejudice, while Eldar get off relatively light.

Vehicles are too fucking expensive edition

Do we have a compiled pdf of the Deldar pages yet? They're spread out over 2 threads because of a Tau autist

Space Marines are perfectly fine. Some people just think Primaris are overcosted.

take a look

Everyone except Tyranid and Dark Eldar.
Waiting on the Eldar rules to leak so I can be butt-devastated.

Orks confirmed garbage for another edition

Kek what a let down this edition, GW never dissapoints their haters

Weaker than Traitor Legions, probably stronger than pre-Traitor Legions.

Why GW? We trusted you.

Dakkajet btw seems to come with 4 supa shootas, and the option to take 2 more for a total of 24 shots.

What hit them so hard?

Tau boycott is in effect. Every Tau player join in. Demands: Riptide reduced point cost and riptide wing rules added to 8th.

> 7th Edition
> Flash Gitz AND sternguard veterans both 22 ppm
> Flash gitz objectively worse at the same job in every conceivable way than sternguard vets
> 8th edition:
> Flash gitz 27 ppm, sternguard vets 16 ppm.
What the fuck? Was this even necessary?

yes
>confirmed

Runt herds are 26 fucking points.
Battlewagons are nearly 200 points without any fucking weapons.

One faith per turn
Celestine is mandatory
Literally half of our Codex is elites
Mandatory models no one owns
Overlooked rules such as being unable to use faith after disembarking
Troops are worthless tax units
Celestians are shit
No more command squads
Priests are elites instead of HQs
Cannoness is a tax unit

Do all bombers produce mortal wounds?

>speaking of sisters that special character canoness is not available any more right?
I dunno, I don't play this gay game. I just want plastic Sisters.

Okay, random question, but what model gets a Pair of Rokkit Pistols?

Anyone got the rules for the Hive Tyrant, Tyrant Guards and Swarmlord?

Now I want to see all the ork datasheets so I can see what they believe justifies these fucking insane point costs

>They're already starting this

Delicious tears ....

Stormboys are 8 points with ALL of their gear already, no need to buy them anything.

Slugga boy stats with M12

>current year
>no grot special characters

Tanks are kinda pointless to bring in this edition.

A 3 predator squadron went from 285 to over 500. Land raiders went from 250 to 350+. It's not surprising that battle wagons cost too much too.

snazzguns cost 0

I'm a Tau player! Where do I sign up to vote against your vote you stupid bitch?

I'll make one. Give me a bit.

We need craftworld Eldar leaks. This will make or break 8th edition.

Tankbustas

Now add up the points costs.

Tell me if they seem like they're worth the points.

Mediocre. Psykers suck, cultists are more expensive, CSM/Havocs seem identical, possessed are hilariously even worse, warp talons look to have less attacks than CSM, oblits are garbage, all daemon engines got a 50-100% point increase. Kharn is more expensive, better in some ways worse in others. Berserkers look okay but are an elite/dedicated melee unit who struggles with hard targets. Legion rules are gone, summoning is actively taking a handicap. Our sole special rule is occasionally exploding dice for melee units, so not worth mentioning. No clue what, if anything, marks do. Non-cult armies are fucked.

All in all, very lackluster, nothing to be excited for.

Flash gitz are 27, sternguard are 19 after paying for their special issue bolter.

That practically kills most Flyers doesn't it?

A Battlewagon is worse in every single way than a land raider, but costs more once you give it everything it NEEDS.

You're only supposed to bring one or two of them now, retard, because of all the fucking Wounds they get before they die.

Aww yeah i had hope to win a game this edition, but we keep being trash maybe i should start buying tau

Who knows if he even plays the fucking game, but originally he was known as TIDF (Tau Internet Defense Force) and he tends to shitpost the most about how Tau and Chaos are the best, and Necrons to a lesser extent

We saw the stats of the Voidraven from Dark Eldar, and it does as well, so I'd say yes. The main differences was that the Void Raven needed to only roll a 3+, and you rolled 3d6 if you flew over a vehicle/monster and only 1d6 for infantry.

Seems Mortal wounds are there to speed things along, but they'll still affect different targets to different degrees

Nice false flagging.
Though I wish the riptide wasn't just straight bad, but worth its cost.

Seen some various SM complaining

Don't lie. You are not a Tau player.

>but costs more
no way battlewagon is coming out over 350

Flash git models are 27 points anyway.

>>bomb squig hits on a 2+
>>loot quad gun
>>quad gun piloted by pig.

This is properly orky

Anti tank weapons do multiple wounds too retard

So what if a tank has 3 times the wounds when anti tank guns do d6 damage a hit? It dies the same you fucking mongoloid.

Da most darin' Stormboy of 'em all

orks in the trash with tau

Ready to take it up the ass as a Guard player. Time to paint up 100 more men.

Spoiler: Eldar will always be TIER 1.

I expect their ppm to be sky high now and full of bullshit psychic powers.

It seems like everyone thinks they're shit. I suspect people need to recalibrate.

total it up friend

No I don't want that.

I want killer roombas back

I play tau. Fuck you, you people ruined tau for me with you WAAC faggery.

Well im done

see you guys in 9th edition

what're the stats on the sternguard guns?

BS5+ heavy3 S5 AP-2 D1 guns that shoot again on a roll of 6 is pretty good. only problem is 24" range.

Chao Goliath rules when?

A battle wagon base cost is 161

Tell me what 195 points of wargear you put on it to make it cost the same as a 356 point land raider.

>we have rules for only a handful of units
>no one has done the math to figure out points efficiency yet
>WE'RE FUCKED
Veeky Forums confirmed for reactionary sperglords who have no idea what they're talking about

time to sell your army on e-bay

>Time to paint up 100 more men.

Don't. BS 3 with a lasgun does absolutely jack-all to Marines and equivalents. Yes I know the maths say 18 shots per dead marine, but you are rarely ever in a position to concentrate enough firepower on a squad to make a difference.

Sternguard guns are 30 inch range S4 ap-2 1 damage rapid fire 1

List of factions convinced they are the worst

CSM
Tau
Necron
Ork-now suicidal
Space Marines? Depends on flavour
Guard
SoB
Custards think they can't even play

3 points each
sternguard are 16 before, 19 total

>Tau observers can now hide anywhere on the field while the sniper drones get a bonus in BS so long the observer sees the target.

They have W16, T7 you retards.

>Disintegrator cannons

>Yeah
>Celestine is just the old mandatory jump canoness
>Half the codex has always been elites
>The fuck are you are on?
>Same as always
>Same as always
>They can fuck off anyway
>Yeah
>So it goes

I-its not like I wanted my S 4 T 5 D6 attack power weapon fearless 4+ invul arco-flagellants back anyway

>YFW your exorcist does 18 wounds

>161 + 27(killkannon) + 18(lobba) + 48(4 rokkit launchas) + *unkown* upgrades
that's 254 before the vehicle upgrades, which we don't have points for, but I'll fucking bet my life they don't cost 96 points.

So what then? Mech Guard again?

No, definitely weaker than pre-TL. All power units are more expensive and or nerfes, and all troops are the same price or more expensive.

Flash Gitz are also BS 4+ by default now, since the gitfinda is kind of build-in due to heavy weapon mechanics

It's the age of the Armored IG again.

What the fuck is with Japan's fetish for pigs? The nose hooks and the references to women being "sows" is revolting and ruins many a good doujin.

Mech Guard again. If a baseline Leman Russ is any indicator, we get cheaper shit than what everyone else has to pay.

But that could easily change as soon as we actually have the fucking books in our hands with the actual point values.

A true hero

Been gone for a few hours, has anyone done Guard yet?

At work, some kind user give me a rundown of what happened to necrons?